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Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by NOETHNICITY(m): 10:10am On Jan 13, 2016

LadyExcellency:
It's unfortunate that in a bid to support justice, that the sense of revenge and attempt to score cheap political points have engrossed every element of institutional democracy we got over the years.

It's good to remind all and sundry that the worst constitutional democracy in Africa is by far better than any constitutional dictatorship in which Nigeria is now sliding into with the support of tyrannous majority whose aim is tainted with obsessive desire to discredit all the gains of PDPs 16 years administration.

Nigerians should learn to accept responsibility for their actions and pay for their crimes no matter how highly placed. Sympathizers should also refrain from condoning criminal behaviours by public office holders. Let's remember, Justice can always be served better with the rule of law.

Did u jus say that PDP achieved sometin in 16yrs! Ur education is shameful!

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Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by Darayola(m): 10:11am On Jan 13, 2016

snailspeed:
They are all innocent until proven guilty!!! What is wrong with some of you? Didnt you attend a school?

You are quoting cases like it has been proven already! Are you saying what you just listed is truth because EFCC said so? Isnt the court the right place to prove if it is true or not? Some of you are so stone age people!

Accepted. They are all innocent until proven guilty. Before then, make them go join those that have been there in the prison for over 25 years without been proven guilty yet.

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Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by Bolashodun: 10:12am On Jan 13, 2016

RareDiamond:
This APC government is a nonsense government led by a dictator who is not only clueless but also a tyrant who disobeys court orders and have disregards for the judiciary and constitution. This APC government should be stopped now !!!

Imagine you or any of your love one are among those that were killed by the terrorist which is avoidable if the money shared by Dasuki and co were used judiciously. How will you fill? Imagine your parents in IDP camp because of greed of some people. Be reasonable. They are crying to Judiciary because they know damage they have done to the system will favour them.

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Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by Bolashodun: 10:13am On Jan 13, 2016

RareDiamond:
This APC government is a nonsense government led by a dictator who is not only clueless but also a tyrant who disobeys court orders and have disregards for the judiciary and constitution. This APC government should be stopped now !!!

Imagine you or any of your love one are among those that were killed by the terrorist which is avoidable if the money shared by Dasuki and co were used judiciously. How will you fill? Imagine your parents in IDP camp because of greed of some people. Be reasonable. They are crying to Judiciary because they know the damage they have done to the system will favour them.

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Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by ishiamu(m): 10:18am On Jan 13, 2016

omenka:
Does he have the powers to give such "order"?? A judge has the discretion to grant judgements based on the facts before him and the merits of the applicant's prayers.

If he can do this, what stops him from saying "stop passing a guilty verdict on suspects"??

Ps: funny how these guys still look to "Tinubu's lying propaganda media" to promote their course.

These same guys would rip thenation apart if anything anti PDP is reported.

Such funny sets of people.

Same way you and ya fellows discredit vanguard, thisday and trentonline

Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by unite4real: 10:20am On Jan 13, 2016

This section belongs to the WAILERS. Am outtahere.

Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by edupedia: 10:20am On Jan 13, 2016

snailspeed:
They are all innocent until proven guilty!!! What is wrong with some of you? Didnt you attend a school?

You are quoting cases like it has been proven already! Are you saying what you just listed is truth because EFCC said so? Isnt the court the right place to prove if it is true or not? Some of you are so stone age people!

...a few people like Falae HAVE CONFESSED THEY GOT THE MONEY AND ARE NOT INTERESTED IN DRAMA LIKE METUH...those confessions show that DASUKI must be held in the interest of the public... by the way whose interest is greater?...

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Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by bobby56(m): 10:20am On Jan 13, 2016

Christoskurion:
Under this government,such court injunction is irrelevant. I commend this administration for their effort in fighting corruption but the method is anti-democratic. Our dear president should find a more advance method that is in consonance with our contemporary democratic practice. If those EFCC and DSS handle you,you may even accept a responsibility of an offence you never commit. One may claim that the procedure does not delay justice but it is against the constitution which my able president swore an oath to.

Buhari will soon loose his credibility because of IMPUNITY and contempt of COURT orders. Watch and see. Let me tell that all what the EFCC, DSS and the FG had been saying in the MEDIA (eg NAIRALAND) is what they want people to hear. Have you hear DASUKI speak in the open? Either on TV or in the Radio? If the FG is sure of the media statements they should arraign these people in Court and you will be surprised at the Accusation and Counter-accusations that would come up. That is what the FG is afraid of. Take it or leave. All the MEDIA TRIAL and JUDGEMENT is to decimate the PDP and any other formidable oppositions against 2019 Electtions. We all know that. Very soon people will start singing "NOBODY CAN DO IT BETTER THAN BUHARI". Just watch and see. Thanks

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Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by LadyExcellency: 10:20am On Jan 13, 2016

sweetgala:
Gains of PDP ! , it is no more contested fact that olisah metuh was a the beneficiary of 400 million or that Dasuki shared 2.1 billion dollars for party interest pre-election.

These are crimes and have to be punished to deter others, only a few weeks ago a billionaire in China was declared missen by his company and the stocks of the company and his account was frozen, only for him to be released some days after, he'd been detained by the Chinese anti corruption agency and quized. That's where Nigeria need to be.

Screw democracy if it provides evil doers the opportunity to vandalise our common wealth

Actually I don't reply people like you in relation to the submission you quoted because you are part of the problem.

Yes, PDP gains are so glaring to be dismissed in every spheres of constitutional democracy which is not to say they were perfect and should be shielded from prosecution.

Justice is served better by following the rule of law.

PDP Handed Nigeria Over In A Better State Than It Met Nigeria - Soludo

Some excerpts from Soludo's 2016 submissions on progress made so far in Nigeria:

For the first time, Nigerian economy is now rated by credit rating agencies (Fitch, and Standard and Poor’s). Even on corruption perception, Nigeria is far better today than in 1999, and PDP created the two major anti-corruption agencies — ICPC and EFCC, and as at 2014 TI scored Nigeria 2.7 and ranked 136 out of 175 countries. PDP secured debt relief for Nigeria, thereby relieving Nigeria from the stranglehold of the IMF/World Bank policy conditionalities. APC does not have to negotiate with Washington on many economic policies. The list is long. PDP passed the 2015 Administration of criminal Justice bill, a perfect document in fighting corruption

The point therefore is that despite the fall in oil price, APC is starting from a much stronger base than PDP did in 1999 and the challenge now is to do far better. In the coming years, Nigerians will be asking APC to show us their figures!

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Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by rusher14: 10:22am On Jan 13, 2016

ShowYourCertificate:
Yes! Including Dasuki until the court pronounces him guilty. Isa Jafaru already admitted guilt by refunding parts of the money.

Even Shekau is innocent.

After all na ordinary film e dey act.

Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by LadyExcellency: 10:27am On Jan 13, 2016*

NOETHNICITY:
Did u jus say that PDP achieved sometin in 16yrs! Ur education is shameful!

Another psycophant that can't form an opinion without being influenced by media propaganda.

Facts backed with Figures don't lie so say Economists and erudite scholars.

PDP Handed Nigeria Over In A Better State Than It Met Nigeria - Soludo

Every team serious about ‘change’ starts with a clear identification of the baseline from which it measures deviations/progress. Nigeria has had 16 uninterrupted years of democracy with the PDP controlling the federal government as well as majority of the states. APC is now in charge at both the centre and majority of the states.

A minimum standard for measuring ‘change’ is the extent to which APC government beats the record of the PDP in measurable terms. As the saying goes, if you can’t measure it, you can’t improve/change it!

Government must strengthen the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) and preserve its independence to produce and publish credible national statistics. It needs serious funding. I really wish our policymakers can be a little less careless or casual about the use of official statistics. I criticised the last government for relying on ‘estimates’ by World Bank staff instead of the NBS statistics. When I hear the narrative so far in the media by the new government regarding the economy, I take it largely as the kind of ‘usual propaganda’ new officials deploy to show that their predecessors “did nothing” and therefore lay the ground for claiming that they are “doing everything for the first time in our history”.

Fortunately also, there are many people as well taking a hard look at the numbers and recording scores. At AfriHeritage, we are developing a template for measuring government performance.

As Nigeria has largely evolved into a two party state in a democracy, I prefer to frame the discourse on the baseline as ‘PDP’s legacy and the APC’s challenge’!
Since it is the practice to blame the PDP for every ill that befell our country in the last 16 years (and there are many of them) it is also fair to credit them with the positive ones.

According to data from NBS, one outstanding legacy of the PDP is that in 16 years it held sway, it more than doubled the GDP of Nigeria (indeed with average year-on-year GDP growth rate in excess of 6% over the past 12 years, the GDP actually doubled within the last 12 years. It met average annual growth rate of about 2% and raised it to 6-7%, led by the non-oil secto[/b]r. Yes, non-oil sector, and the “diversification” reported in the recently re-based GDP happened within the last 16 years.

Will the economy more than double in the next 12 years under the APC? For me, if only the APC can double the size of GDP from about $550 billion to $1.1 trillion in 12 -16 years, and further half the poverty index, Nigeria will indeed be on course to be one of the largest 10 economies in the world by the end of this century.

As at 1999 when PDP came to power, Nigeria was largely a pariah state still lucky to have survived as one indivisible sovereign, especially in the context of the struggle by NADECO and restiveness in many parts of the country.

On corruption, Transparency International scored it 1.6 out of 10 and ranked 98 out of 99 countries in 1999. Nigeria was listed among four countries that were non-compliant on the anti-money laundering rules by the Financial Action Task Force (FATF). We could not service our external debt and relied on stressful rescheduling, with all the intrusive donor conditionalities. Poverty was estimated at 70%, and unemployment at nearly 20%.

The 1990s will go down in our economic history as the decade of stagnation: when per capita income growth was zero. [b]Average oil price in May 1999 when President Obasanjo took over was $15.24 while stock of reserves was about $5 billion.

After 16 years, several challenges remain and some have even worsened (especially insecurity). Although President Jonathan’s regime had the worst economic management relative to the resources at its disposal, it must be stressed that tremendous progress was made in the aggregate 16 years of PDP government. Yes, it should have left more than $100 billion in reserves but left only $30 billion (still about six times of what it met).

We also wish that Jonathan’s team did not leave Nigeria with unprecedented rate of debt accumulation. But, according to statistics from NBS, the PDP handed over a $550 billion economy (largest in Africa and 26th in the world), with 7.5% unemployment rate (better than European Union, France, Sweden, Belgium, etc although the underemployment figure is much higher); 32%?? poverty rate (as claimed by the former Finance Minister, or 61%??: NBS needs to clarify this claim); a stock of reserves of $30 billion; GDP growth rate averaging 6% over last 12 years; a relatively more diversified economy, with ICT penetration from 0.2% to over 60%, and a new contributory pension scheme now with trillions of Naira in pension fund. Our external debt is down although total debt stock is escalating. Our Gini coefficient (degree of inequality) is not different from China’s. Nigeria has consolidated and stronger banking system that currently finances both government debt and the private sector, with a relatively vibrant capital market. The capitalization of the Nigerian Stock Exchange grew from less than N1 trillion to N12 trillion as at handover.

For the first time, Nigerian economy is now rated by credit rating agencies (Fitch, and Standard and Poor’s). Even on corruption perception, Nigeria is far better today than in 1999, and PDP created the two major anti-corruption agencies — ICPC and EFCC, and as at 2014 TI scored Nigeria 2.7 and ranked 136 out of 175 countries. PDP secured debt relief for Nigeria, thereby relieving Nigeria from the stranglehold of the IMF/World Bank policy conditionalities. APC does not have to negotiate with Washington on many economic policies. The list is long. PDP passed the 2015 Administration of criminal Justice bill, a perfect document in fighting corruption

The point therefore is that despite the fall in oil price, APC is starting from a much stronger base than PDP did in 1999 and the challenge now is to do far better. In the coming years, Nigerians will be asking APC to show us their figures!

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Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by onunwa21(m): 10:28am On Jan 13, 2016

NO COMMENT YET, B4 EFCC WILL REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED OVER 20 YEARS AGO WHEN I STOLE 10 KOBO FROM MY MUMMY PURSE.............

Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by lezz(m): 10:29am On Jan 13, 2016

omenka:
Does he have the powers to give such "order"?? A judge has the discretion to grant judgements based on the facts before him and the merits of the applicant's prayers.

If he can do this, what stops him from saying "stop passing a guilty verdict on suspects"??

Ps: funny how these guys still look to "Tinubu's lying propaganda media" to promote their course.

These same guys would rip thenation apart if anything anti PDP is reported.

Such funny sets of people.

Magistrate courts do not have the jurisdiction to hear/entertain and pass ruling on certain crimes/allegations that attracts capital punishment. It is a matter of law, not a matter of a chief judge's "orders".

Although, the FCT Chief Judge made it sound as if he were reeling out orders from his own discretion.

But magistrate courts do not derive any powers from source ( Any law in Nigeria) to handle these matters.

Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by omaguibu(m): 10:31am On Jan 13, 2016

the next thing we will hear is the Chief Judge has been removed, dismissed or redeployed for no just reason. we never chi chomchin

Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by Nobody: 10:34am On Jan 13, 2016

ShowYourCertificate:
The detention of those poor guys in police cells is also wrong. But two wrongs don't make a right. Or does it?

It doesn't so she should do the first thing first by attending to those guys first

Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by mart2k(m): 10:34am On Jan 13, 2016

Who is he to bar d magistrate court? Abi e too eat out of d yams ba?

Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by naptu2: 10:34am On Jan 13, 2016

I've been expecting this for a while.

Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by Raskasal(m): 10:37am On Jan 13, 2016

Well, good as it may be, but the remand bar should be to all not only directed to EFCC. The less privilege are suffering in prison, majority awaiting trial. Now the CJ is a invariably saying the Rich who are found guilty should be Accord a way out. Now what is impunity here?

Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by Raskasal(m): 10:38am On Jan 13, 2016

Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by AtlanticBreeze: 10:39am On Jan 13, 2016

simpleseyi:
Including ATM Dasuki Sambo that dispensed money to Nigeria looters? Even the former governor that collect 4.6 billion naira for spiritual purposes? Or Isa Jafaru that collected 170 million to buy a house for Dasuki from arms purchase fund?

yes, they are all innocent until found guilty by a court of competent jurisdiction which EFCC and your beer parlor gossips are not

Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by AtlanticBreeze: 10:42am On Jan 13, 2016

NOETHNICITY:
Did u jus say that PDP achieved sometin in 16yrs! Ur education is shameful!

yes, the fact that you are on the internet typing trash today is a credit to the PDP. The APC government us yet to get one thing right

Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by chidextec: 10:46am On Jan 13, 2016

Corruption fighting back 2 back.

Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by Seunjungle(m): 10:53am On Jan 13, 2016

Hunger has really changed people from their original mental! How would you expect efcc to charge these fraudsters to court when they have all what it takes to revive this stolen money...don't forget that efcc and Nigeria courts have been working hand in hand for long and they know what all these judges are capable of doing when it comes to the level of corruption in our judicial system. All these judges are bounch of thieves looking for money from these political fraudsters. EFCC make sure you bring back our stolen monies before taking them to court!!

Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by Godmercy(m): 10:54am On Jan 13, 2016

what a country and the nation is ours I could remembered a man that was remind for good ten year for no any crime in this Nigeria especially in Lagos state for good ten year and later discharge on acuted my question now is that where are this laws and the lawyer in Nigeria may God bless this nation

Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by Amiano(m): 10:56am On Jan 13, 2016

AMPLIFY:
Chai this government- The Beautiful ones are not yet born

hw wil d beautiful ones b born wen d ugly once has refused to die

Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by Kiakia(m): 10:56am On Jan 13, 2016

This order or directive does not carry weight. Such oral directive on such an important issue that has to do with the administration of criminal justice cannot be made off-handedly in such an environment. The Chief Judge has to issue a Practice Direction to this effect if he is really serious about precluding magistrates from granting Remand orders against persons accused of committing an offence. Even at that, issuing such Direction will run contrary to the intents of ACJA which did not preclude magistrates from exercising their discretion in this regard.

Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by TheFreeOne: 11:03am On Jan 13, 2016

bobby56:
Buhari will soon loose his credibility because of IMPUNITY and contempt of COURT orders. Watch and see. Let me tell that all what the EFCC, DSS and the FG had been saying in the MEDIA (eg NAIRALAND) is what they want people to hear. Have you hear DASUKI speak in the open? Either on TV or in the Radio? If the FG is sure of the media statements they should arraign these people in Court and you will be surprised at the Accusation and Counter-accusations that would come up. . That is what the FG is afraid of. Take it or leave. All the MEDIA TRIAL and JUDGEMENT is to decimate the PDP and any other formidable oppositions against 2019 Electtions. We all know that. Very soon people will start singing "NOBODY CAN DO IT BETTER THAN BUHARI". Just watch and see. Thanks

God bless you.

I have refrained from commenting on sensational reports on armsgate cos everything about this govt tilts towards propaganda. Hence my stand that every accused should be brought to open trial so we can know the truth and if they are guilty as charged the law should take its course.

I fear this govt is using the war against corruption to mask its incompetency and decimate the opposition/dissents when they ought to work more to pull the economy out of recession.

If they like let them erect billboards for Buhari all over the country but dictatorship will NEVER be allowed to succeed in our democracy.

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Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by jpphilips(m): 11:04am On Jan 13, 2016

The right question Nigerians should ask is this; why should corruption charge be bailable offence when Manslaughter is not?
Dasuki diverted funds meant for arms procurement and soldiers died for it, no sane country in the world will try dasuki for embezzlement or breach of public trust rather he will be facing charges of involuntary manslaughter which is not a bailable offence I guess.
A manslaughter charge is enough to put him out for good, while EFCC pursues embezzlement for funds recovery.
I don't know if the law is weak or the DSS is just incompetent, I pray I am wrong though.

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Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by tete7000(m): 11:08am On Jan 13, 2016

simpleseyi:
Including ATM Dasuki Sambo that dispensed money to Nigeria looters? Even the former governor that collect 4.6 billion naira for spiritual purposes? Or Isa Jafaru that collected 170 million to buy a house for Dasuki from arms purchase fund?

If you have found him guilty, why take him before the court? You court as well just have taken him straight to stake to face firing squad. Rubbish!

Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by Nobody: 11:15am On Jan 13, 2016

SO, THAT FORMER PRESIDENT GOODLUCK JONATHAN'S GOVERNMENT WAS NOT DRACONIAL, TYRANNICAL, CLUELESS AND SHAMELESS RIGHT? AND IT BROUGHT GREAT RESPECT TO NIGERIA AND IT WAS A HUGE PROGRESS FOR DEMOCRACY IN AFRICA. A GOVERNMENT WHO OBEYS COURT ORDERS AND ALLOWED LOOTERS EMPTY NIGERIA'S TREASURY, THAT HAD RESPECT FOR THE JUDICIARY AND CONSTITUTION THAT RAN NIGERIA TO A NEAR BANKRUPTCY BY ITS WIDE SPREAD CORRUPTION, INDISCIPLINE AND MISMANAGEMENT WHICH WE ARE ALL PAYING FOR NOW? SO THAT'S THE THE GOVERNMENT THAT SHOULD BE EMBRACED BY BOTH NIGERIANS AND THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY UNTIL NIGERIA BECOMES TOTALLY BANKRUPT AND WE ARE MERGED WITH GHANA?

Sometimes I wonder what Nigerians really want. May be we like to remain in our state of poverty or if we really want to get out of it.

Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by snailspeed: 11:29am On Jan 13, 2016

edupedia:
...a few people like Falae HAVE CONFESSED THEY GOT THE MONEY AND ARE NOT INTERESTED IN DRAMA LIKE METUH...those confessions show that DASUKI must be held in the interest of the public... by the way whose interest is greater?...

That they got which money?

Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by freeze001(f): 11:32am On Jan 13, 2016

Raskasal:
Well, good as it may be, but the remand bar should be to all not only directed to EFCC. The less privilege are suffering in prison, majority awaiting trial. Now the CJ is a invariably saying the Rich who are found guilty should be Accord a way out. Now what is impunity here?

When have the so-called rich or poor been found guilty? Was there a declaration of guilt by a competent court before the order of remand by the magistrate court? Or is it the security agency that finds one guilty by virtue of an arrest?

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