₦airaland Forum

Kachisbarbie:
[i]This argument has been on between my colleagues and I, some of us insist a woman maintains her maiden state of origin (officially) after marriage, others say she changes to her marital state of origin .

To the Mrs in the house, which state of origin do you put on official forms (e.g) bank documents, travelling, sim registration...etc.?

Elxandre:
You mean you begin to [b]originate[/] from another town/LGA because you got married?

On a serious note this issue can only be raised in a third world country, where the literacy rate is questionable.

Seun:
Here's a more serious question: what's a woman's birthday and gender after marriage? A wife should adopt her husband's birthday and gender.

Seun:
Here's a more serious question: what's a woman's birthday and gender after marriage? A wife should adopt her husband's birthday and gender.

Kachisbarbie:
[i]This argument has been on between my colleagues and I, some of us insist a woman maintains her maiden state of origin (officially) after marriage, others say she changes to her marital state of origin .

To the Mrs in the house, which state of origin do you put on official forms (e.g) bank documents, travelling, sim registration...etc.?

Seun:
Here's a more serious question: what's a woman's birthday and gender after marriage? A wife should adopt her husband's birthday and gender.

Ishilove:
I don't know why you are bothering to reply. Some people are childish and they don't think deeply enough, hence they wave the multi-coloured banner of their ignorance with unrepentant pride.

Your question is a very valid one and anyone who says it is daft need to reevaluate their education

prissyluv:
Nne,which L.G.A do you fill in your form,ur state of origin or ur husbands? If asked to get LGA identification letter.where do u get it from?

Kachisbarbie:
hahaha... thanks Sis.
That one brazenly displays his ignorance on issues he has no first hand knowledge or experience on.
Thereby making I difficult to ignore.


Babe, I fill the state I was born into_ I can't give that up for anything, na marry I marry na_ them no sell me...lols. It has never crossed my mind to claim my husband's State of L.G.A o, the only time I do that is when I wanna see the reaction of the other person due to where my hubby is from.

Though there was this time a family friend wanted to help me with a govt job, when I gave him my details, he used his hand to change my SoO/LGA to my husband's, I was very angry. He said that's how it should be.

prissyluv:
Believe me when I say I was happy when I saw this thread,but some of the comments here have left me more confuse. Anyways,whenever such issues come my way,i will choose the one that I have more advantage to. Thanks.

Kachisbarbie:
My sister, surprisingly very few people addressed the issue properly in a way that clears confusion. I would just pick the reasonable points_ because I am sure it would still arise.

I gats be prepared next time...lols. Y'welcome

Kachisbarbie:
Babe, I fill the state I was born into_ I can't give that up for anything, na marry I marry na_ them no sell me...lols. It has never crossed my mind to claim my husband's State of L.G.A o, the only time I do that is when I wanna see the reaction of the other person due to where my hubby is from.

Though there was this time a family friend wanted to help me with a govt job, when I gave him my details, he used his hand to change my SoO/LGA to my husband's, I was very angry. He said that's how it should be.

theshaderoom:
See all if them fanzing seun. If nah another person talk am now una go attack am. Stop riding Seun's coatail and state your own opinion jare!

cococandy:
I really don't know.
But I remember when I wanted to get intl passport a while ago and they asked me for letter of identification from my LGA, I gave them the one I had but they were saying I needed one from my hubby's LGA since I'm now married in a different state. I was Like 'for real'!

I certainly didn't know where his LGA headquarters is. much less traveling there to look for letter of identification.
I think I paid them some money and they did some abracadabra and my passport was ready.

I was already hot, tired and getting frustrated from much activity that day. So I didn't really care if they were saying it to fleece me of some money or if I was legally required to adopt a new place of identification as soon as I got married.

But you're right people do expect women to change everything about them when they get married. So don't mind those yabbing your thread as if what you're saying is a lie or doesn't happen.

magneto:
Your family friend is correct. Legally a married woman's state of origin and LGA reverts to her husbands. That is why Patience Jonathan could be a perm. sec. in Bayelsa state, whereas she's from Rivers.

Askseek:
I think the problem here is when we say Nigeria we are referring to a really large group of people and not all do the same. Culture differs. I never experienced this. When I got a new passport after marriage all I was asked for was marriage certificate.

mnairaland:
If u did not pay the official cost of applying for a passport then the additional money u paid covers the cost of helping u get all required additional dicuments.

It is a standard requirement that u present a lettet identificatn frm ur LGA
of origin/ residence.

However since the purpose for asking that is to prioduce proof that you are the true bearer of dt name they can choose to accept a marriage certufucate in lieu of it thought it is not standard.The idea is to properly identify you.

Askseek:
The person I quoted proferred an experience where she was asked to present a letter from her husbands LGA, in my experience I was asked for my marriage certificate to verify change of name. All other documents were presented to verify my identity. Is there anything else?

Kachisbarbie:
Though there was this time a family friend wanted to help me with a govt job, when I gave him my details, he used his hand to change my SoO/LGA to my husband's, I was very angry. He said that's how it should be.[/i]

mnairaland:
To be honest, I don't understand your question.

I also quoted the person you quoted. Perhaps you should read my response to her quote.

Because I don't understand you question, I will reiterate what I said but in other words.

Most people who apply for passport in Nigeria do not pay the official amount. The official amount is usually way, way lower that the amount people because the want their passport to be quickly issued( This is actually a form of queue jumping).

Because, they have paid or have been made to pay more that the required amount, the immigration officer (or person doing the processing), goes as far as helping the 'client' to get all required documents that doesn't have to compulsorily come from her.

For instance, if she doesn't have a birth certificate, they will help her get an age declaration; if she doesn't have an identification letter, they will help her get one.The unofficial amount she paid covers the cost of these unofficial services done for her by them.

They , however, cannot help her get a marriage certificate and such similar documents which must necessarily come from her.

What I am trying to communicate is this: in your own case, if you paid them, or any of their 'runs agent' an unofficial amount for the passport. They will demand only the documents that must necessarily come from you and help you get the rest.

Askseek:
A lot of assumptions makes communication difficult. No where did I indicate that I dealt with 3rd parties? Its one thing to ask or use hypothetical scenarios or your personal experience. It is another to imply from the minuscule information that these documents were forged. I know exactly how Nigeria works and FYI I paid the official rate back then in 2001. I was in no hurry for a new passport and waited the length of time I was told, and the additional time I was asked to wait because it was not ready. You made assumptions in your post and are taking my comment to a completely different place. Like I said before my experience, and I can only speak to my experience. Is it possible I dealt with a naive office or someone who could not be bothered with doing the job well or someone who just did not know, very possible but that is something I will never figure out. What I know is I was not asked for that at the passport office Ikoyi. We need to stop assuming that everyone does things the mago mago way, or queue jumps.

mnairaland:
First, I wasn't talking about you specifically. I was just explaining how things often work there in the hope that I may end up answering your question.
Second, I had no intention to imply that any document was forged. Those third party people do not produce fake documents. Al least to the best of my knowledge. They only somehow help you to do what you could have done yourself since they got you to pay more.

I remember stating in an old post that they could accept a marriage certificate in lieu of a letter of identification.But since you still asked a question in spite of that my statement, I attempted to come out with other possible reasons for asking for just a marriage certificate.

I hope you noticed that I stated that i did not understand your question, because somehow it seemed to me my post had addressed the issue.

To make thing clearer, the reason I quoted you in the first place was to explain to you why they could accept only a marriage certificate from you. You were wondering why they only accepted a marriage certificate from you and I stated in my post that they objective was to properly identify you and that they could choose to accept a marriage certificate from you in place of a letter of identification although it wa not standard. I was of the opinion that my post would have put an end to your wondering so I was at loss as to why you were asking a question again. In a bid to answer you question and put an end to the wondering I tried to be more descriptive.

This is the summary:
It is officially required that you provide a letter of identification from your LGA of origin/residence. They can decide to accept another document in lieu of it if they deem it equivalent.

Having, said all that, I think you somehow misunderstood my last post.

MODIFIED:
I read through my last post again and saw this:

What I am trying to communicate is this: in your own case, if you paid them, or any of their 'runs agent' an unofficial amount for the passport. They will demand only the documents that must necessarily come from you and help you get the rest.

Ok. I actually directly referred to you there. Not with standing, the gist of the foregoing explanation remain valid.