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nateevs:
I am with Ibime on this one and even with the goal in question and everyone knows I am not a Mikel hater. I am just being objective on this one.

Watch how Mikel slowly recovers from marking Verratti. The problem was that he didn't spot the danger and realise that Di Maria, at the very least, had free 10 yards to run at the back four. With a little more verve, defensive tactical awareness, decisiveness and pace (which is the koko here) Mikel, truly could have zeroed out the space in front of Di Maria, despite being in front of Verratti only moments ago.

This is not to say other players do not share in the blame but you can see how that move develops and how Mikel could easily have made the choice difficult for DM.

The problem here is that, I have seen that slow recovery happen 100s of times before and consequently, it is not wrong to criticise Mikel in this instance, again.

Mikel was marking Verrati. There were only 4 PSG players in your half and 8 Chelsea players. What were the other 8 doing while Mikel was marking Verrati?

Di Maria went towards Rahman and still roamed midfield and the other players were doing what exactly?

When Di Maria played the pass Cavani was with Chelsea 4 defenders who were all glued to the ground or were they waiting for Mikel to also go and chase Cavani too?

Every instance Mikel was marking someone, who were the other players marking?

Instead of signing a better striker we signed a brazilian player who has only come for excursion in london and still looking for a weak game he could play in. Costa went and psg players were much more relieved despite dominating play . iva n cahill has nothing to offer the team with their sluggishness. Hazard is a bastard. Courtois hardly communicates well with his defenders while they are sleeping. In the first leg mikel reaction to di maria was unacceptable but i largely blame iva for being flat footed, terry, carvalho n co had saved such situations in the past. Thats the fine to pay when having makeshift defenders in positions against a top side. Azpi also showed his own side as rb. Off-the-ball reaction is very crucial, few secs of ball watching rather than swiftly picking your opponent is suicidal these days. Traore or remy could nt do anything against Silva n luiz that day. The team needs cleansing.

sleekdot:
Mikel was marking Verrati. There were only 4 PSG players in your half and 8 Chelsea players. What were the other 8 doing while Mikel was marking Verrati?

Di Maria went towards Rahman and still roamed midfield and the other players were doing what exactly?

When Di Maria played the pass Cavani was with Chelsea 4 defenders who were all glued to the ground or were they waiting for Mikel to also go and chase Cavani too?

Every instance Mikel was marking someone, who were the other players marking?

Dayo thanks for your input on this.

To me, Guus was Naive by playing a 2 man midfield vs 3 defensive midfielders. If he had played Oscar at 10, at least we know that he would have tracked back. This naivete is exemplified in that pic that Ibime posted. Fabregas is Awol, Willian fails to track his runner, while Mikel is marking Matuidi higher up the pitch.

Overload is always going to happen due to numerical advantage...and not due to Mikel's incompetence.

I'm not saying that Mikel is an ideal midfielder, far from it....but trying to blame Mikel for those 2 goals is just spiteful,hateful and ignorant.

All the pundits in England blamed Cahill and Kenedy for the first, and Azpilicueta for the second.

You can't play a slow mikel vs 3 speacialist defensive midfielders, and then blame him when he cant track them all. Thats just stuppidity.

When Newcastle inevitably relegate, can we just go Wijnaldum Abeg?

Nihilist:
When Newcastle inevitably relegate, can we just go Wijnaldum Abeg?

Benitez is on board at St James Park

When someone doesn't know football, they just don't know football.

Oscar for Willian makes the midfield more stable?

Willian who is more of a midfielder, more hardworking and keeps possession better than Oscar.

Ibime:
When someone doesn't know football, they just don't know football.

Oscar for Willian makes the midfield more stable?

Willian who is more of a midfielder, more hardworking and keeps possession better than Oscar.

If there's anybody who has shown himself to be very ignorant about football over the last couple of days, it's you sir.

Fabregas 'retains possession' better than Oscar, and is definitely 'more of a midfielder' than Oscar...yet Fabregas is a defensive liability.

Oscar is clearly a more defensive minded AM than Willian and even Fab sef.

In your rush to affirm your jaundiced view of Mikel, you clearly can't see the folly of playing a combination of 2 offensive players and 1 defensive player against 3 specialist defensive midfielders.

Even worse, PSG's defensive trio occupied the central midfield strata to compete with Mikel and Fabregas, while William was left to play further forward in the AM strata.

Even when you could see the result of that folly with Willian failing to track Rabiot, you are still trying to blame Mikel.

Guus should have either dropped Hazard for Oscar, or Paired Matic with Mikel and played Fab in the hole.

^^ Though both Ibime and Nihilists are weedhead but for this week nihilist igbo is better. Ibime just dey smoke nonsense

Hindsight is 20/20 but I think vs PSG you need workers who are ready to fight all game given that PSG dropped Pastore and Cavani and played with 3 battlers in midfield and 2 runners in Di maria and Moura you cant have players just faffing around

Its a battle of the hardworkers.


----Mikel--Matic
-Willian--Fabregas--Pedro/Oscar
------Costa

If Ramires was available I would have started him on the right over Oscar and Pedro

But I still understand the coach. Players like Hidden Ikedia are expected to live up to moments like this and not disappear like smoke

You cant really be comfortable benching a player like Hazard because one of those monkey post drimmble fit go through

but the nucca was just too useless on that day

Nihilist:
If there's anybody who has shown himself to be very ignorant about football over the last couple of days, it's you sir.

Fabregas 'retains possession' better than Oscar, and is definitely 'more of a midfielder' than Oscar...yet Fabregas is a defensive liability.

Oscar is clearly a more defensive minded AM than Willian and even Fab sef.

In your rush to affirm your jaundiced view of Mikel, you clearly can't see the folly of playing a combination of 2 offensive players and 1 defensive player against 3 specialist defensive midfielders.

Even worse, PSG's defensive trio occupied the central midfield strata to compete with Mikel and Fabregas, while William was left to play further forward in the AM strata.

Even when you could see the result of that folly with Willian failing to track Rabiot, you are still trying to blame Mikel.

Guus should have either dropped Hazard for Oscar, or Paired Matic with Mikel and played Fab in the hole.

I thought you said we lost because our attackers couldn't finish and it was nothing to do with midfield? Now you are saying Guus should have bolstered the midfield.

Oscar is not more defensive or more hardworking than Willian, and more importantly he will lose the ball and invite more pressure. In no world does Oscar bring more stability to a midfield than Willian.

I agree with the last point. Matic was the best bet to add more solidity to the midfield, and hope to nick a goal.

Ibime:
I thought you said we lost because our attackers couldn't finish and it was nothing to do with midfield? Now you are saying Guus should have bolstered the midfield.

Oscar is not more defensive or more hardworking than Willian, and more importantly he will lose the ball and invite more pressure. In no world does Oscar bring more stability to a midfield than Willian.

I agree with the last point. Matic was the best bet to add more solidity to the midfield, and hope to nick a goal.

I gave 3 reasons we lost yesterday. This was just one.

Can you genuinely state without prejudice that we didn't have chances in that game?
Can you honestly say that Chelsea were out of the game pre-Costa's injury?

Like I stated yesterday, we had more shots, more shots on target, and more shots from inside the penalty box than PSG.

It's not like we were just shooting useless shots, we were actually making the keeper work...and there were at least 3 opportunities to release a killer ball to a teammate in space in the 18 that Hazard and Costa squandered between them.

Even with the relative lack of defensive protection, we could have still won that game if our attack was a bit more incisive.

PSG just took the chances that were practically gifted to them, it's not as if we were even carved open.

160 passes in their final third to 111 in ours tell a story...you're just not interested in listening

Ibime:
I thought you said we lost because our attackers couldn't finish and it was nothing to do with midfield? Now you are saying Guus should have bolstered the midfield.
Oscar is not more defensive or more hardworking than Willian, and more importantly he will lose the ball and invite more pressure. In no world does Oscar bring more stability to a midfield than Willian.
I agree with the last point. Matic was the best bet to add more solidity to the midfield, and hope to nick a goal.

Fat has covered your retina. Read the post below

Nihilist:
PSG's midfield yesterday was Rabiot-Motta-Matuidi

That's 3 defensive midfielders. Motta is 34 and as slow as or slower than Mikel. Rabiot is a benchwarmer that has started less than half Of PSG's games this season. I think Matuidi is a very good player but our midfield oga here once said that he only a slightly better Ramires.

Anybody that watched that game without bias would have noticed that PSG's midfield was just as bad.

How many times did Willian and or others steal the ball and run unchallenged through the midfield to their box 18?

Just before halftime we wanted to kill them sef.

This game was lost for 3 reasons in my opinion

1. Tactical - PSG played 3DMs in the middle of the park vs Fab-Mikel and will always have the numerical advantage there. See the way those guys were playing rough, and if not that the ref was an oloshi, they should have chopped red very early in the game. We essentially played 1 DM versus 3 specialists and we're blaming Mikel?

2. They simply had to be better attack. We had almost as many chances as PSG but we just couldn't convert.

Ibra-Moura-Angel are better than our attack. That's just a simple fact. That game could have very early ended in our favour. When Costa left we didn't even know where the post was again...and Luiz was just bullying Traore like a schoolboy.

3.Yes Azpi messed up twice along with Cahill

How Mikel is on the blame list is beyond me

Nihilist:
I gave 3 reasons we lost yesterday. This was just one.

Can you genuinely state without prejudice that we didn't have chances in that game?
Can you honestly say that Chelsea were out of the game pre-Costa's injury?

Like I stated yesterday, we had more shots, more shots on target, and more shots from inside the penalty box than PSG.

It's not like we were just shooting useless shots, we were actually making the keeper work...and there were at least 3 opportunities to release a killer ball to a teammate in space in the 18 that Hazard and Costa squandered between them.

Even with the relative lack of defensive protection, we could have still won that game if our attack was a bit more incisive.

PSG just took the chances that were practically gifted to them, it's not as if we were even carved open.

160 passes in their final third to 111 in ours tell a story...you're just not interested in listening

We couldn't have won any game if our attack did anything.

Not once did we penetrate behind, while they were having tapins. All our shots were potshots with their players behind the ball.

It is normal for Chelsea to have more passes in the final third. Those aren't penetrating passes. That's just where Willian, Hazard and Pedro like to play their football. Back and forth in the opponents third with no penetration. It is a defining feature of 4-2-3-1.

Anyway my point is made. The Emenalo policy of stocking excess AMs with no hardworking midfielders brings nothing but destruction to Chelsea. I'm sick of singing the same hymn every year.

heard Mikel rejected contract extension

Nihilist:
Dayo thanks for your input on this.

To me, Guus was Naive by playing a 2 man midfield vs 3 defensive midfielders. If he had played Oscar at 10, at least we know that he would have tracked back. This naivete is exemplified in that pic that Ibime posted. Fabregas is Awol, Willian fails to track his runner, while Mikel is marking Matuidi higher up the pitch.

Overload is always going to happen due to numerical advantage...and not due to Mikel's incompetence.

I'm not saying that Mikel is an ideal midfielder, far from it....but trying to blame Mikel for those 2 goals is just spiteful,hateful and ignorant.

All the pundits in England blamed Cahill and Kenedy for the first, and Azpilicueta for the second.

You can't play a slow mikel vs 3 speacialist defensive midfielders, and then blame him when he cant track them all. Thats just stuppidity.

Your weed is on point... wa sherey!

lordfalcao:
heard Mikel rejected contract extension

Someone confirm this news abeg
Make I use Orijin take celebrate am

JigsawKillah:
Someone confirm this news abeg
Make I use Orijin take celebrate am

You think it is possible?

JigsawKillah:
Someone confirm this news abeg
Make I use Orijin take celebrate am

he had the contract on hold, but rejected extension, don't know if it's true

Matt Maizga makes his first Chelsea appearance in our U21's 2-1 win over Leicester last night.

Post match analysts on NBC just said they don't think Bamford is EPL quality

I have to agree. I say sell him for small change in the summer.

Really enjoyed intelligent analysis between Nihilist and Ibime.
Nonsroyalty, dmcdad and adelana1 could learn from this.

sleekdot:
Mikel was marking Verrati. There were only 4 PSG players in your half and 8 Chelsea players. What were the other 8 doing while Mikel was marking Verrati?

Di Maria went towards Rahman and still roamed midfield and the other players were doing what exactly?

When Di Maria played the pass Cavani was with Chelsea 4 defenders who were all glued to the ground or were they waiting for Mikel to also go and chase Cavani too?

Every instance Mikel was marking someone, who were the other players marking?

You have not been watching Chelsea play. Mikel has been fully responsible for every single goal conceded this season while on the pitch and at least partially responsible for the ones conceded while on the bench. IMO he needs to go

Nihilist:
Post match analysts on NBC just said they don't think Bamford is EPL quality

I have to agree. I say sell him for small change in the summer.

I don't think he is good enough. I can't name any single quality that he has, how did he score all this goals at Boro?
Meanwhile I think your best left back is Ake.
Is loftus cheek better than chalobah?

afrodoc2:
I don't think he is good enough. I can't name any single quality that he has, how did he score all this goals at Boro?
Meanwhile I think your best left back is Ake.
Is loftus cheek better than chalobah?

Championship is a massive drop in quality to EPL. Bournemouth, Watford and Norwich absolutely rampaged their way through that division. The Cherries and Hornets are doing ok this season, but the vast majority of the Watford team that came second last season has been replaced or relegated to the bench, and Bournemouth are not yet safe from relegation. Norwich are without a win in 11 games and are now battling for survival

I suspect that even my mother could forge a decent career at that level.

Chalobah and RLC are both just different shades of the same shyt. They will never be good enough for Chelsea.

See bullet header from Pelle

That nigga ^^^^is crazy

Spy360:
Really enjoyed intelligent analysis between Nihilist and Ibime.

Nonsroyalty, dmcdad and adelana1 could learn from this.

Look at this one. The same person dat said Walcott is as good a finisher as Aguero and C.Ro. The same ignoramus dat places Ozil above Zidane....

Are u not stupîd like dis?? Or u are intentionally looking for attention this hot saturday afternoon.

If i'm dull, then u are brainless. Even if i no sabi football, i still take deep consolation and satisfaction in the fact dat u're the daftest and most senseless orangutan in this section of Nairaland.

AdeLaNa1:
Look at this one. The same person dat said Walcott is as good a finisher as Aguero and C.Ro. The same ignoramus dat places Ozil above Zidane....

Are u not stupîd like dis?? Or u are intentionally looking for attention this hot saturday afternoon.

If i'm dull, then u are brainless. Even if i no sabi football, i still take deep consolation and satisfaction in the fact dat u're the daftest and most senseless orangutan in this section of Nairaland.

if I'm dull,then you're brainless!!!
Where art thou@spy360

Nihilist:
Championship is a massive drop in quality to EPL. Bournemouth, Watford and Norwich absolutely rampaged their way through that division. The Cherries and Hornets are doing ok this season, but the vast majority of the Watford team that came second last season has been replaced or relegated to the bench, and Bournemouth are not yet safe from relegation. Norwich are without a win in 11 games and are now battling for survival

I suspect that even my mother could forge a decent career at that level.

Chalobah and RLC are both just different shades of the same shyt. They will never be good enough for Chelsea.

See bullet header from Pelle

Lol you and dadehmola are the same, you don't want to give these young boys a chance
But I was just wondering if the chances RLC is getting won't be better utilised by another youth team player cos the guy does not look terribly interested

AdeLaNa1:
Look at this one. The same person dat said Walcott is as good a finisher as Aguero and C.Ro. The same ignoramus dat places Ozil above Zidane....

Are u not stupîd like dis?? Or u are intentionally looking for attention this hot saturday afternoon.

If i'm dull, then u are brainless. Even if i no sabi football, i still take deep consolation and satisfaction in the fact dat u're the daftest and most senseless orangutan in this section of Nairaland.

"A brainless spy360"?.... pistols fired!!!!!!!!

AdeLaNa1:
Look at this one. The same person dat said Walcott is as good a finisher as Aguero and C.Ro. The same ignoramus dat places Ozil above Zidane....

Are u not stupîd like dis?? Or u are intentionally looking for attention this hot saturday afternoon.

If i'm dull, then u are brainless. Even if i no sabi football, i still take deep consolation and satisfaction in the fact dat u're the daftest and most senseless orangutan in this section of Nairaland.

Jisos!

dmcdad:
Jisos!

Ji Wetin? Abeg don't disturb Adelana , he is good for business cos his victims are my patients.
Meanwhile we are collating the names of all those that said Ozil is better than Zidane and Walcott is a better finisher than C.Ronaldo and sending all of them for MRI.

Spy360:
Really enjoyed intelligent analysis between Nihilist and Ibime.

Nonsroyalty, dmcdad and adelana1 could learn from this.

We the entire members of NL's Sport Section have unanimously agreed that you are the dullest (of all homo-sapiens) and the most unintelligent to ever grace the surface of the earth!

You have a degree in clueless-ness, and you are a living and certified proof that a human can actually exist and co-exist with other humans even without brains, hence the name tag 'brainless one' (kudos to AdeLaNa1 for this awesome discovery).

Keep basking in the euphoria of being an intelligent and objective fellow. I no get your time.