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Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by plaetton: 11:24am On Mar 21, 2016
fulanimafia:
You are grossly misinformed regarding the bolded. Sir Ahmadu Bello, on the contrary, advocated for education and supported girl child education in particular, established the largest University in West Africa, and spearheaded the establishment of dozens of farms, factories, tanneries etc. in the North (which were mismanaged by subsequent military administrations), which is part of why he is revered as a great leader.

The dominance of the military and political system is supposed to be a plus, and at no time were they postulated as the only means of prosperity as you wrongly averred.
Fair enough.
I stand corrected.

But you would agree with me that the dominance in military and political system, encouraged by the Sarduana, has not been a plus, rather , it made the elites very complacent, and thereby neglecting the potentials and growth of the northern middle class in all other areas.
Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by stonemasonn: 11:29am On Mar 21, 2016
Story story
Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by orisa37: 11:40am On Mar 21, 2016
Bokoharam is their Insurance and warranty for the Difference!!!!
Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by carinmom(f): 12:08pm On Mar 21, 2016
mineANDurs:
Story for the Gods!
North can NEVER be richer dan d south.
Are you sure huh
Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by chrisooblog: 12:18pm On Mar 21, 2016
topic should have read take out illiteracy and ignorance not just bokoharam. right now the south has the education advantage (relatively but still too much sentimentality) if the north can get it right education wise they will easily become the food basket of west and parts of central africa
Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by 2sexycom(m): 12:28pm On Mar 21, 2016
Adaure4ever:
@OP. I disagree, the North have to take huge part of the blame on why Nigeria is not developing today. They have been ruling this nation political sphere since 1960 and whats the result today : An Underdeveloped 3rd world struggling country named Nigeria, a nation where 85% of its citizens don't have access to a basic amenities like indoor running clean water..
are you sure you are not trying educate a Northerner, those ones that defile simple logic, in acceptance of the redundant islamic knowledge?
Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by betterABIAstate: 12:34pm On Mar 21, 2016
fulanimafia:
While some people were waiting for Jonathan to build a second Niger bridge....

Kano had built the longest fly over bridge in West Africa.
here they come with this over painted flyover, is that the only place in kano?
Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by 2sexycom(m): 12:48pm On Mar 21, 2016
bonechamberlain:
take out boko haram it would be the same north, we know, education is the key, without education there can be no tangible development, even if the government of jigawa or any other state embark on giant agricultural projects, u need educated people to make it succeed.

another problem of the north is religion, they value religion more than economy, until rationality starts prevailing in the north they would remain where they are.


for me take away the north from occupying any political position, Nigeria would be better than Europe.
you just summed up what OP couldn't say in his "research" with over 1000 words. What a shame and wasteful energy expended on a research without substance.

They are not even rational in their discourse which make the learned ones like carinmom and 9jjj look like illitrates.
Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by 2sexycom(m): 12:57pm On Mar 21, 2016
maestro2000:
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I pray the indomie generations to revisit their history teachers or the library or old magazines to be able to comprehend what my post was all about. People saying the North are uneducated are quickly to forget that this same north fed the South before and after independence before the boom of the oil with their pyramids( groundnut) and their tomatoes while few certain states in the Southwest was helping the Nigeria foreign reserves with bags of cocoa ( ondo state ).

Saying they are uneducated and looking down on them is what I am actually worried about,if care is not taking they will take us by surprise with their developments.
You have a point... WHY did they stop? They have their self to blame.
Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by jpphilips(m):
@OP

Some of the basics of your literature are flawed, your position on Australia is untrue, close to 50% of Australian exports are oil and commodity based, though oil prices have fallen, precious commodities like Gold still boost their export. Agriculture contribute less than 15% of their GDP so I wonder where you got the fiction you sold to us.

Lagos is not developed because it is a gateway, that is a very myopic assertion, Lagos is developed because it has people who are accommodating, when was the last time you heard of a major crisis in Lagos save for pockets of Skirmishes?
Lagos is a place where you see foreigners in the local market moving freely undisturbed, that is an edge the average westerner has over other regions.
Suffice to note that a tolerant society breeds trust, trust begets investment. Some ignorant people argue that the presence of early colonial masters and the seat of government made a difference, well, I can't bet on it categorically, Calabar in cross river, Bonny and Opobo in Rivers all saw the White man almost the same time Lagos did, Calabar and Lagos stand taller than Opobo and Bonny, the later can not qualify beyond villages never mind the influence of Govt funding of the oil and gas industries with servicing companies that ensued, yet things are not better.

Two things Calabar and Lagos have in common that spurs development easily are Tolerance and Waterways, funny enough the Rivers duo have water access too yet development refuse to come because they lack tolerance. The tolerance extended to Igbos in Lagos is what the present igbo generation is abusing, the sad part is that the current Lagosian is trying to be less tolerant, rightly put, it is a smart way of making them lose that advantage, once gone, all the investments there will go with it. I wished you pointed out this part.

The northerners have not realized the need to separate State from Religion, that is a huge retrogressive ideology, it still baffles me how Saudi arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Iran and UAE developed. is it because they are white?

The rest of your post are best optimistic down that road, there are loads of uncertainties that may mar those lofty dreams.
Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by jpphilips(m): 1:12pm On Mar 21, 2016
chrisooblog:
topic should have read take out illiteracy and ignorance not just bokoharam. right now the south has the education advantage (relatively but still too much sentimentality) if the north can get it right education wise they will easily become the food basket of west and parts of central africa
The more educated you get, the more divergent opinions you wield, the more educated people you have, the least chances of reaching a unanimous consensus.
Illiteracy is an advantage for the north for now, only if their Elites are honest enough to lead them right. In political processes, Consensus is the key and the North have it, what they need are vibrant and courageous people who can question the direction of the Political class.
Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by Nobody: 1:15pm On Mar 21, 2016
carinmom:
Are you sure huh
YES, because whatever they build, they will still destroy. Its in their blood. huh
Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by xperia626: 1:19pm On Mar 21, 2016
fulanimafia:
While some people were waiting for Jonathan to build a second Niger bridge....

Kano had built the longest fly over bridge in West Africa.
sorry was it Kano state project or a Federal government own under GEJ??
Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by xperia626: 1:31pm On Mar 21, 2016
jpphilips:
@OP

Some of the basics of your literature are flawed, your position on Australia is untrue, close to 50% of Australian exports are oil and commodity based, though oil prices have fallen, precious commodities like Gold still boost their export. Agriculture contribute less than 15% of their GDP so I wonder where you got the fiction you sold to us.

Lagos is not developed because it is a gateway, that is a very myopic assertion, Lagos is developed because it has people who are accommodating, when was the last time you heard of a major crisis in Lagos save for pockets of Skirmishes?
Lagos is a place where you see foreigners in the local market moving freely undisturbed, that is an edge the average westerner has over other regions.
Suffice to note that a tolerant society breeds trust, trust begets investment. Some ignorant people argue that the presence of early colonial masters and the seat of government made a difference, well, I can't bet on it categorically, Calabar in cross river, Bonny and Opobo in Rivers all saw the White man almost the same time Lagos did, Calabar and Lagos stand taller than Opobo and Bonny, the later can not qualify beyond villages never mind the influence of Govt funding of the oil and gas industries with servicing companies that ensued, yet things are not better.

Two things Calabar and Lagos have in common that spurs development easily are Tolerance and Waterways, funny enough the Rivers duo have water access too yet development refuse to come because they lack tolerance. The tolerance extended to Igbos in Lagos is what the present igbo generation is abusing, the sad part is that the current Lagosian is trying to be less tolerant, rightly put, it is a smart way of making them lose that advantage, once gone, all the investments there will go with it. I wished you pointed out this part.

The rest of your post are best optimistic down that road, there are loads of uncertainties that may mar those lofty dreams.
if Igbos bad sides re no tolerated outside their own states, that state must be ready to lose the development that accompanied with their presence
Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by chrisooblog: 2:17pm On Mar 21, 2016
hmmm interesting theory but then how do you explain how the more educated western region was able to make giant strides under the leadership of awolowo while the monolithic united north still lagged far behind. or to take it international how did the chinese, japanese (post-world war), singaporeans etc achieve so much if not with that educational boost? but i agree a strong, vibrant activist middle class is needed to stir the northern ship and not just leave it in the hands of selfish elites or unexposed\unlightened mullahs

jpphilips:
The more educated you get, the more divergent opinions you wield, the more educated people you have, the least chances of reaching a unanimous consensus.
Illiteracy is an advantage for the north for now, only if their Elites are honest enough to lead them right. In political processes, Consensus is the key and the North have it, what they need are vibrant and courageous people who can question the direction of the Political class.
Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by bonechamberlain(m): 2:20pm On Mar 21, 2016
2sexycom:
you just summed up what OP couldn't say in his "research" with over 1000 words. What a shame and wasteful energy expended on a research without substance.

They are not even rational in their discourse which make the learned ones like carinmom and 9jjj look like illitrates.
that write up is just full of either ignorance or deliberate ignorance..
Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by carinmom(f): 5:04pm On Mar 21, 2016
2sexycom:
you just summed up what OP couldn't say in his "research" with over 1000 words. What a shame and wasteful energy expended on a research without substance.

They are not even rational in their discourse which make the learned ones like carinmom and 9jjj look like illitrates.
We are better 1000 times than you because we are not bigots and hypocrites. I'd rather be a n illiterate than a hypocrite undecided
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Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by Sealeddeal(m): 5:47pm On Mar 21, 2016
jpphilips:
The more educated you get, the more divergent opinions you wield, the more educated people you have, the least chances of reaching a unanimous consensus.
Illiteracy is an advantage for the north for now, only if their Elites are honest enough to lead them right. In political processes, Consensus is the key and the North have it, what they need are vibrant and courageous people who can question the direction of the Political class.
So America is underdeveloped? With Illiteracy, a country or region is in advantage? what kind of statement is that?
Education is the key to development. You think development is all about building roads? Illiteracy is one the major cause of underdevelopment in Northern Nigeria.
Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by BushidoBlue(m): 5:55pm On Mar 21, 2016
carinmom:
We are better 1000 times than you because we are not bigots and hypocrites. I'd rather be a n illiterate than a hypocrite undecided
Total summation of the problems of northern Nigeria.
Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by fulanimafia: 6:33pm On Mar 21, 2016
xperia626:
sorry was it Kano state project or a Federal government own under GEJ??
Kano state.
Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by eziokwubundunuwa: 6:38pm On Mar 21, 2016
Without birth control and aggressive pursuit of education, the North will continue to be far poorer than the South even without oil. When you fail to plan your family then you've already failed the society. The North should start birth control today or regret so much in 50 years time.
Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by jpphilips(m): 7:11pm On Mar 21, 2016
chrisooblog:
hmmm interesting theory but then how do you explain how the more educated western region was able to make giant strides under the leadership of awolowo while the monolithic united north still lagged far behind. or to take it international how did the chinese, japanese (post-world war), singaporeans etc achieve so much if not with that educational boost? but i agree a strong, vibrant activist middle class is needed to stir the northern ship and not just leave it in the hands of selfish elites or unexposed\unlightened mullahs
I will oblige you, it is not a fact that the Western region was so educated in the days of Awolowo, he had a good reason for his free education campaign right? The thing about the countries you mentioned is that their development were not born of neither consensus nor education, there is always a tyrant or a nation who seizes power to reposition the country before those countries fell to democratic principles.
In China it was Mao Zedong, in Japan it was a different story, you can't over rule the US post war influence in the Japanese economy, but the point i made above was POLITICS not ECONOMY/DEVELOPMENT.
Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by jpphilips(m): 7:14pm On Mar 21, 2016
Sealeddeal:
So America is underdeveloped? With Illiteracy, a country or region is in advantage? what kind of statement is that?
Education is the key to development. You think development is all about building roads? Illiteracy is one the major cause of underdevelopment in Northern Nigeria.
Do you know that when you read and you don't understand or lack the capacity to interpret what you read, you are not any diff from an illiterate right? where in that post talked about development?
Re: Take Out Boko Haram,northern Nigeria Will Be Richer That The South by HammerTheirPapa(f): 7:43pm On Mar 21, 2016
BARR. Akeredolu is pitying Biafrans who wants to leave the union. Is he really pitying them or is he afraid of our yoruba future under fulani domination in what can be termef Odudu-Arewa Islamic republic. They pretend to pity Igbos but are actually afraid of a country without Igbos. grin

I am yoruba and I know we will also run from fulanis if Igbos pull away. LWKMD! gringrin
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