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emaculate99:
How can an uneducated fight the Europeans? In 1914, most Nigerians were uneducated but they were able to fight for their independence because some of them became educated. Those who became educated then fought their independence out. Check your history book well.

The people making up Nigeria discarded amalgamation.
“The southern Nigerians who are swarming into this region daily in large number are really intruders… they are not welcomed here in the North. Since the amalgamation in 1914, the British has been trying to make Nigeria one country, but the Nigerian people are different in every way including religion… We here in North, take it that Nigeria’s unity is not for us.” – Tafawa Balewa.

“The mistake of 1914 has come to light” – the Sardauna of Sokoto.

“Nigeria is not a nation, it is a mere geographical expression … to which life was given by the diabolic amalgamation of 1914, that amalgamation will ever remain the most painful injury inflicted on the Southern Nigeria.” – Obafemi Awolowo.

The Biafran (Igbo) fought for their independence because they believe that the amalgamation is nothing to write home about - a mistake!

from this, we can deduce that the south and the northern part of Nigeria talked about the evil of amalgamation.

The Northern and Southern protectorates have different languages like Niger, Chad and Benin and yet, Nigeria was amalgamated by Britain. France, the country that colonised these countries know the mistake she will be making, she chose not to amalgamate the countries.

horlapelumi:
Fynestboi, thank you for giving me the opportunity to clear that but i can only do that if you look at whatever precedes that paragraph.
We have been together and still together because we are not together by mistake. Our years of union is far more than our years of independence, even though this years have been with different challenges the same way couple marry and go through series of challenges but that does not mean their union was a mistake at the first place, those things only make them stronger the same way Nigeria is now.
Don't you think the amalgamation would have been dissolved if it were a mistake during the civil war? Its did not simply because it was built for us to live with......

horlapelumi:
You also fail to recognize the fact that Nigeria accommodates different religions, tribe and system of law. The constitution gives no room for state religion, is that the crime?
For the hausas clamoring for Sharia, they can easily get it because the constitution provides that "there shall be for any state that requires it a sharia court" and also "there shall be a shariah court of appeal of the federal capital territory". what else do the want? All this excuses of tribal differences and religious differences are like fisher men arguments, they hold no water in laws and in facts.

xynerise:
The dissolution would have be successful if Biafra had won the war.

emaculate99:
yeah, the country gives no room for state religion but is that the position in real life? it is just a provision of the constitution which is not practicalised fully. Most people in the Northern states believe that the religion in the North is Islam.

If I am to follow your logic, then an Igbo can contest for the post of Lagos state governor. Why? Because Nigerian constitution provided that a man will qualify to contest for the position of the state governor if he is not in aberration with Section 182 of the 1999 constitution

Fynestboi:
[size=16pt]Obafemi Awolowo University(Support) Vs Lagos State University (Oppose)


Topic: 1914 Amalgamation - A Historical
Mistake?[/size]
What kind of citation is this? Does LASU not have a VC? Remember that Wikipedia does not always have the latest and most correct information. LASU VC: Professor Olanrewaju Adigun FAGBOHUN.
#irepLASUanyday#




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Obafemi Awolowo University – Popularly known as "Great Ife" is a Federal Government owned and operated Nigerian university. The university is in the ancient city of Ile-Ife, Osun State, Nigeria. The university was founded in 1961 and classes commenced in October 1962 as the University of Ife by the regional government of Western Nigeria, led by late chief Samuel Ladoke Akintola, and was renamed Obafemi Awolowo University on 12th May 1987 in honour of Chief Obafemi Awolowo (1909–1987), first premier of the Western Region of Nigeria, whose brainchild the university was.

Her Vice Chancellor is Professor Idowu Bamitale Omole.

OAU Motto - For Learning and Culture

Let me now present to you the Great Ife's representative.

► Emaculate99
► OAUTemitayo


LASU

https://www.nigeriaschool.com.ng/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/lagos-state-university-lasu.jpg

Lagos State University generally regarded as Lasu was established in 1983 by the enabling Law of Lagos State of Nigeria, for the advancement of learning and establishment of academic excellence.
Chancellor: Molade Okoya-Thomas


Her philosophy is For truth and service

Her representatives:
►NeonDee
►IamDejman
►Timidelaw
►horlapelumi
►Eduntee

Source: Wikipedia.

horlapelumi:
They didn't win the war because it was predestined..... When Israelite were going to win the fight for independece against Egyptians, the red sea had to be divided for them to pass through. if the course of the Biafrans had been just, they would have prevailed.
Also, they lost the war because they were fighting a region that supplies them food........its simply saying we need each other to survive

horlapelumi:
They didn't win the war because it was predestined..... When Israelite were going to win the fight for independece against Egyptians, the red sea had to be divided for them to pass through. if the course of the Biafrans had been just, they would have prevailed.
Also, they lost the war because they were fighting a region that supplies them food........its simply saying we need each other to survive

Fynestboi:
[size=16pt]Obafemi Awolowo University(Support) Vs Lagos State University (Oppose)


Topic: 1914 Amalgamation - A Historical
Mistake?[/size]





[img]http://www.nairaland.com/attachments/1403632_oau-logo_jpegfd792ca2348535d7a50271d82c1b576d[/img]



Obafemi Awolowo University – Popularly known as "Great Ife" is a Federal Government owned and operated Nigerian university. The university is in the ancient city of Ile-Ife, Osun State, Nigeria. The university was founded in 1961 and classes commenced in October 1962 as the University of Ife by the regional government of Western Nigeria, led by late chief Samuel Ladoke Akintola, and was renamed Obafemi Awolowo University on 12th May 1987 in honour of Chief Obafemi Awolowo (1909–1987), first premier of the Western Region of Nigeria, whose brainchild the university was.

Her Vice Chancellor is Professor Idowu Bamitale Omole.

OAU Motto - For Learning and Culture

Let me now present to you the Great Ife's representative.

► Emaculate99
► OAUTemitayo


LASU

https://www.nigeriaschool.com.ng/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/lagos-state-university-lasu.jpg

Lagos State University generally regarded as Lasu was established in 1983 by the enabling Law of Lagos State of Nigeria, for the advancement of learning and establishment of academic excellence.
Chancellor: Molade Okoya-Thomas


Her philosophy is For truth and service

Her representatives:
►NeonDee
►IamDejman
►Timidelaw
►horlapelumi
►Eduntee

Source: Wikipedia.

horlapelumi:
Do well to read up Tafawa Balewa independence speech too and try to compare with his stand on amalgamation, the fact that the speech came from him does not give it credibility over my conscience. This are just persons in power that wants to manipulate the whole thing for their own benefits. Why should we continue to be misguided by them? Maybe if you can point out 5 minorities that gave a similar stand as at that time i would subscribe to your point.

Also, Niger is different from Nigeria and so is Chad and Benin, what is good for Nigeria might not be good for them. Maybe that is why they were not amalgamated.

thank you

xynerise:
Really?

Before the Amalgamation, there were survivals in every region.

emaculate99:
The location which happened to be the present day Nigeria was the portion given to Britain and which was enclosed by the portion given to France. France unlike Britain, thought of the people to some extent and chose not to amalgamate the communities in the said portion. The France portion that enclosed Nigeria later became what is regarded to as Chad, Benin Republic and Niger today. If not for the identification of the incompatibility of the people in the country, France would have amalgamated this portion like Britain to aid administration and economic purposes.

The thing is Britain did this amalgamation of a thing arbitrarily without recourse for the people's interest. If Benin Republic should be a portion given to Britain, don't you think it will be amalgamated with Nigeria just for economic and administration purpose?

labienyce:
Team OAU. . You said the amalgamation was a mistake and we should have being a different country because of difference in religion, custom, tradition, morals and to a large extent ethos.. Given that the country consists of over 250 ethnic groups.. are you indirectly saying there should be 250 countries instead of one ?

horlapelumi:
Nothing is stopping an Igbo man from contesting such election, even the constitution is not doing that so why can't he if he would win.

horlapelumi:
Very well but then why were they not able to win the war? History has it that their men were starving and many were dieing of hunger instead of gun wound shortly after the North shot down its food supply to that region. That is saying something Sir

ElectGINeer:
No war outcome is predestined, it is battle for the fittest.

Mordecai:
Timidelaw,you say the amalgamation was not a mistake.

let us look at one of the most obvious fallouts of the act - Federal character.

Federal character, as you are well aware promotes mediocrity. What is the alternative? Can it work in an amalgamated Nigeria? If yes, how? If not, do we then keep wallowing in the same mud, out of which we have not been able to exit? Should we not accept it for what it may have been - a mistake?

horlapelumi:
Very well but then why were they not able to win the war? History has it that their men were starving and many were dieing of hunger instead of gun wound shortly after the North shot down its food supply to that region. That is saying something Sir

xynerise:
Sabotage, bro. You won't get this information from a book.

Mordecai:
horlapelumi, you say Niger and Chad are different from Nigeria, and that what was good for them might not be good for Nigeria.

Does this same argument not apply to the different protectorates that were amalgamated to form Nigeria?

labienyce:
Team OAU. . You said the amalgamation was a mistake and we should have being a different country because of difference in religion, custom, tradition, morals and to a large extent ethos.. Given that the country consists of over 250 ethnic groups.. are you indirectly saying there should be 250 countries instead of one ?

Timidelaw:
You keep talking of diversity of the nation. Am yet to see a reply to the point made on the Rivers state situation, neither have you answered the insurgency being operational mainly in the North(same people) or the Niger Delta in the South........ The lies of the leaders for their failure is what is driving us, and not any mistake of amalgamation.

Mordecai:
Just to correct the historical points, the starvation was because of a blockade on all sides, especially the Cameroonian borders, and not because of cessation of food supply from the north.

While you have a point about the South needing the North's food supplies, we still need to get our facts right.

horlapelumi:
So are you saying it was a mistake that we were even colonized by Britain?

iamclime:
What kind of citation is this? Does LASU not have a VC? Remember that Wikipedia does not always have the latest and most correct information. LASU VC: Professor Olanrewaju Adigun FAGBOHUN.
#irepLASUanyday#

emaculate99:
Stick to the basics. We are talking about the amalgamation of Nigeria in 1914 and we cannot but talk about it being a mistake of Britain. Saying that I am talking about the fact that it is a mistake Nigeria was colonised by Britain is like drawing people's attention away from the main topic