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[size=13pt]This topic was created purely for historical purposes. Below are 'pagan' gods thriving long before the advent of the christianity..... Read on if you can stomach some facts as a christian, remember faith is a choice so do not let anything deter you from what you would rather believe..... Enjoy!

HORUS 3000 BC

Born in Dec 25
Mother : Isis meri (a virgin inpregnated by the spirit Nef)
Circumstance around birth : Three kings visited.
Was a renegade child and teacher at 12.
Was baptised by anup by 30.
Horus had 12 disciples
Walked about performing miracles, healing sick nd walking on water.
Horus was known as the light, the shepard, gods annointed son, the truth etc....
He was betrayed by Typhon.
Horus was crucified buried for 3 days and thus resurected.

Attis ( greece 1200 bc)

Born of a virgin "nun", crucified, placed in tomb for 3 days, ressurected.

Khrishna (india 900bc)
Born of a virgin "navaki", star in the east announced his coming, performed miracles, upon his death was resurected.

Dionysis (Greece 500 bc)

Born of a virgin (dec 25), was a travelling teacher who performed miracles such as walking on water nd turning water into wine. He was known as the king of kings, Alpha and omega, upon his death he resurected.

Mithra (persia 1200 bc)

Born of a virgin on dec 25, had 12 disciples, died for 3 days and resurected, sacred day of worship for mithra is "sunday"., he was known as the truth , the light etc.....


More are indra of tibet, bali of afghanistan, tao of Nepal.......


There is so much more to say, the history of the Jewish group called Essenes, that existed alongside the Pharisees and saducees (even though not mentioned in the bible, some scholars say christianity is simply an offshoot ) shared striking similiarities with the quotes by jesus in the bible.
e.g "blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth" is an Essene quote found in the dead sea scrolls to be succinct. The founder of the essenes was Yeshu ha Notzri who according to history was a magician who performed miracles all over and was eventually stoned to death and hung on a tree a day after passover. The essenes predates the bible by many many years also.......


So having said all these, i want to implore people to have a sense of religious relativity!! Everyone either a Buhdist, Muslim, Hindu, a Scientologist believe strongly without a doubt their God is the way and the only true , arrogantly forcing your beliefs and being judgemental of others simply reveals your depth of shallowness and actual lack of love for your fellow human......


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cc seun , lalasticlala

This is not historical facts, it's YouTube myths made up by Christ myths hunters.

Richirich713:
This is not historical facts, it's YouTube myths made up by Christ myths hunters.

read up on mithra, independent of christianity.

How can one believe Jesus and not believe Mithra? Ain't both the same sun god?

Dont you see that the devil is trying to decieve you by all these lies.

These stories of different gods often reflect the expectations of acient people of the God which truly came to save the earth. Most of the claims by historians are false starting with horus.
Horus was worshiped principally in two Egyptian cultural centers (Bekhdet in the north and Idfu in the south). Horus was usually represented as a falcon. He was the great sky God and the Son of Isis and Osiris.

Claim: Horus was conceived by a virgin mother named Meri, and had a stepfather named Seb (Joseph)
Truth: Horus was NOT conceived of a virgin. In fact, mural and textual evidence from Egypt indicates Isis (there is no evidence that “Meri” was ever part of her name) hovered over the erect penis (she created) of Osiris to conceive Horus. While she may have been a virgin before the conception, she utilized Osiris’ penis to conceive. She later had another son with Osiris as well. There is no evidence of three wise men as part of the Horus story at all. Seb was actually the “earth god”; He was not Horus’ earthly father. Seb is not the equivalent of Joseph and, in most cases, Seb is described as Osiris’ father.

Claim: Horus was born in a cave, his birth announced by an angel, heralded by a star and attended by shepherds.
Truth: There is no reference to a cave or manger in the Egyptian birth story of Horus. In fact, none of these details are present in the ancient Egyptian stories of Horus. Horus was born in a swamp. His birth was not heralded by an angel. There was no star.

Claim: Horus attended a special rite of passage at the age of twelve and there is no data on the child from the age of 12 to 30.
Truth: There is no continuous effort in the Horus mythology to account for all these years, so there are no real gaps in the chronology. Horus never taught in any temple at twelve (as did Jesus).

Claim: Horus was baptized in a river at the age of 30, and his baptizer was later beheaded.
Truth: Horus was never baptized. While conspiracy theorists often point to “Anup the Baptizer” (claiming he was later beheaded), there is no such person in Horus’ story.

Claim: Horus had 12 disciples.
Truth: Horus had only four disciples (called ‘Heru-Shemsu’), but at some point in his story there is reference to sixteen followers and a group of unnumbered followers who join Horus in battle (called ‘mesnui’).

Claim: Horus performed miracles, exorcized demons, raised someone from the dead, and walked on water.
Truth: Horus certainly performed miracles (he was, after all, described as a god). But there was no mention of exorcizing demons, raising people from the dead or walking on water.

Claim: Horus was called “Iusa”, the “ever-becoming son” and the “Holy Child”.
Truth: No one in Egyptian history was ever called “Iusa” (the word does not exist) nor was anyone called “Holy Child”.

Claim: Horus delivered a “Sermon on the Mount”, and his followers recounted his sayings. He was transfigured on the Mount.
Truth: Horus never delivered a “Sermon on the Mount”, nor was he transfigured.

Claim: Horus was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, and was resurrected.
Truth: Horus is not reported to have died at all in the vast majority of Egyptian narratives. There is also no crucifixion story. Instead, Horus is usually described as eventually merging with Re (the Sun god) after which he “dies” and is “reborn” every day as the sun rises. There is a parallel account describing Horus’ death and detailing how he was cast in pieces into the water, later fished out by a crocodile at Isis’ request.

Claim: Horus was called “Way”, “the Truth the Light”, “Messiah”, “God’s Anointed Son”, “Son of Man”, “Good Shepherd”, “Lamb of God”, “Word made flesh”, “Word of Truth”, “the KRST” or “Anointed One”.
Truth: None of these titles are in Egyptian history, but Horus is called by several names you might expect for any god in mythology: “Great God”, “Chief of the Powers”, “Master of Heaven”, and “Avenger of His Father”. Horus was not called “the Krst”. This word in Egyptian means “burial” (it wasn’t a title at all).

Claim: Horus was “the Fisher” and was associated with the Fish, Lamb and Lion.
Truth: Some of conspiracy theorists associate Horus with fish (by virtue of the fact that Horus was a fish in some portion of the ancient narrative), but there is no evidence Horus was ever called a “fisher” or was ever associated with the Lion or the Lamb.

Claim: Horus came to fulfill the Law, and was supposed to reign one thousand years.
Truth: There was no Egyptian “law” for Horus to fulfill, and there is no mention of a thousand year reign in Egyptian mythology.

ifenes:
How can one believe Jesus and not believe Mithra? Ain't both the same sun god?

A lot of skeptics have been trying to destroy the name of God by making you believe false information about Mitrha there is little or no similarity between Mithra and Jesus Christ and there is no way you can compare Jesus Christ with Mithra, so do not be deceived.

Jews do not worship the sun god and several times in the scriptures they were ordered not to do so. It is very easy for you to say Jesus was not real but looking at the route most of those false gods went despite the fact that they had lots of worshippers and magnificent temple to their name are nothing today. Jesus was crucified, his disciples were hunted and killed, at least that fact can't be disputed, yet he is the most important person to have ever walked the surface of the earth and the most popular ever. There have been investigations by historians and even CNN has done an investigation to see if Jesus truly existed and they came to the conclusion that He did. It is only a fool who would like to be deceived that would say Jesus never existed, people would die for what they believe to be true and not what they know to be a lie.

The parallels between mithra the sun god and Jesus Christ

Claim: Mithras was born of a virgin on December 25th, in a cave, attended by shepherds
Truth: Mithras was actually born out of solid rock, leaving a hole in the side of a mountain (presumably described as a “cave”). He was not born of a virgin (unless you consider the rock mountain to have been a virgin). His birth was celebrated on December 25th, but the first Christians knew this was not the true date of Christ’s birth anyway, and both Mithraic worshippers and the early Roman Church borrowed this celebration from earlier winter solstice celebrations. Shepherds are part of Mithraism, witnessing his birth and helping Mithras emerge from the rock, but interestingly, the shepherds exist in the birth chronology at a time when humans are not supposed to have been yet born. This, coupled with the fact the earliest version of this part of the Mithraic mythology emerges one hundred years after the appearance of the New Testament, infers it is far more likely this portion of Mithraism was borrowed from Christianity rather than the other way around.

Claim: Mithras was considered a great traveling teacher and master
Truth: There is nothing in the Mithraic tradition indicating he was a teacher of any kind, but he was could have been considered a master of sorts. This would not be unexpected of any deity, however. Most mythologies describe their gods in this way.

Claim: Mithras had 12 companions or disciples
Truth: There is no evidence for any of this in the traditions of Iran or Rome. It is possible the idea Mithras had 12 disciples is simply derived from murals in which Mithras is surrounded by twelve signs and personages of the Zodiac (two of whom are the moon and the sun). Even this imagery is post Christian, and, therefore, did not contribute to the imagery of Christianity (although it could certainly have borrowed from Christianity).

Claim: Mithras promised his followers immortality
Truth: While there is little evidence for this, it is certainly reasonable to think Mithras might have offered immortality, as this is not uncommon for any God of mythology.

Claim: Mithras performed miracles
Truth: Of course this is true, as this too was not uncommon for mythological characters.

Claim: Mithras sacrificed himself for world peace
Truth: There is little or no evidence this is true, although there is a story about Mithras slaying a threatening bull in a heroic deed. But that’s about as close as it gets.

Claim: Mithras was buried in a tomb and after three days rose again, and Mithras was celebrated each year at the time of His resurrection (later to become Easter)
Truth: There is nothing in the Mithraic tradition indicating he ever even died, let alone resurrected. Tertullian did write about Mithraic believers re-enacting resurrection scenes, but he wrote about this occurring well after New Testament times. Christianity could not, therefore, have borrowed from Mithraic traditions, but the opposite could certainly be true.

Claim: Mithras was called “the Good Shepherd”, and was identified with both the Lamb and the Lion
Truth: There is no evidence that Mithras was ever called “the Good Shepherd” or identified with a lamb, but since Mithras was a sun-god, there was an association with Leo (the House of the Sun in Babylonian astrology), so one might say he was associated with a Lion. But once again, all of this evidence is actually post New Testament; Mithraic believers may once again have borrowed this attribute from Christianity.

gcode123:
read up on mithra, independent of christianity.

Already look him up years ago, found out all those virgin, resurrection and dead for three days were just made up on the Internet by Christ myth hunters.

No Mithraic scholar makes those claims, only laymen on the Internet posting meme pictures( to avoided giving a source to back up the claims).