postmann:
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tosyne2much:
What do you women still want again after several laws have been made to protect women from the challenges and oppression?. However, several laws have been made in favour of women to enable them enjoy certain right and privileges in the contract of service which men don't get to enjoy.


OP, you said women are only allowed to play minor role in politics and this got me wondering whether your know what you are saying at all.. If I may get you right, are you trying to say that women should be given the chance to hold top political positions even if they don't merit it on the ground of gender equality? My dear you need to have a rethink.

All these gender bullshiit will add nothing to the growth of the economy but give women audacity to question men making them look like they don't know what they have been doing from the ages past. Gender equality which is aimed at giving women equal right, will turn to something else which may even make women rub shoulder with their husbands and be disrespectful


Conclusively, I believe need more laws that will protect them from oppression, dangers and harm not this gender wahala

deebrain:
There are so many advantages of this. Men really do need help, as long as you don't want to be the husband of the house.

However, it is the women that need to talk to themselves.

While some of you want to take responsibility, 80% of you want to "use your body to get what you want"-your own undoing!!

Let women strive to put emphasis on their brain qualities off the bed and there will be no debate on this equality stuff. It will come naturally.

Society does enjoy whores, but cannot risk giving them a recognized status.


Selah

Logicbwoy:



Which gender pours hot water on house girls? (women)

Which gender gets away with molesting children? (women)
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Which gender fights more as soldiers for their country? (men)

Which gender does more missionary/charity work in foriegn countries? (men)


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Both men and women can be equally evil. We see more from men because men are in power. Give women an equal chance and we would see that women are equally as good or evil.


You are fast becoming a misandrist. Please stop. You know that I've always respected you (logicboy)

edoziebobbyyahoocom:

1. Now whose fault is it that they feel that doing such jobs will lead to stigmatization?
2. Both Genders will never be regarded as equals, don't get me wrong i'm not saying any gender is superior to the other what i'm saying is that we were built differently and made for specific purposes.
3. Due to the fragility of the female sex they are not expected to engage in rigorous jobs such as masonry while the males are not very compassionate in nature to take on delicate task as home management.
In conclusion, both sexes can't be regarded as equals but to a great extent can be treated as equals in the face of the society, disregarding certain societal norms.

AbrahamLincoln:
Most of these women fighting for equality are strong Feminists and according to RESEARCH, 90% of them are gays and they need the rights to take charge of their female counterparts.
Abi nobe lesbian takeover period we dey for naija?
I no blame una, na una papa and mama wey no gree una near boys at tender age and now you are pouring the heat on men.
Go get a man and submit to him...BIATCH

dickt:
I know some foolish men who can rightly be termed counterfeit men have already bought this gender equality thingy. To those men I say, don't be too gullible.
It's counterfeit men in the U.S. that allowed women to topple them rightwise. Now if there's a set of persons that don't hav rights in the U.S., it's the straight male folk. What caused it? The feminity struggle. Gays, women , kids, etc have more rights. They were struggling for equality , got it , kept struggling and now they have more rights . Now the Nigerian females want to do same to us. It won't work.

kevinberry:
right now the only thing I would support is that government should ban bride price,make verbal abuse a crime,after these two injustice towards men have been tackled,we can then start pondering on the points you raise....left to me,one don't need any law to become a career woman or whatever you are driving about,the general human right have already cover everybody,if the senate decide to pass this bill then they will also have to review and dismiss the homosexuality bill which was sign base on religion and moral reasons

mikolo80:
no we fear y'all stupidity

Doubleagent008:
Nice one OP. you have made some good points. I don't totally agree with some of the things you have written. Gender Equality has a lot of aspects that people muddle up together. it's got A social, Political, Economic, judiciary aspects among others. Getting the bill passed or voted is going to take long to come.
as for how it affects us, People seem to mistake Gender Equality for "Gender Favoritism " I have an instance for you, You must have at one point in time seen in the News that some women groups asking that women should make up 40-50% of government cabinet in the name of Gender Equality. that is not Equality that is like Favoritism because for women to make up 50% of the cabinet, that will mean some men who should be there will be overlooked because a "woman" must be there. Rather our equality should target removing limitations to the woman folks so that it makes them be at the same playing level in competition but not that you start giving the female folks quota as a right (equality would mean fairness to everybody) .
So in true equality one would expect women to also be in troops travelling for peace keeping mission in troubled Zones ( can the government afford that?). have you considered the Economic implications how many working hours are lost to Maternity leave e.t.c? the more the women the more the man hours lost.
And even a true equality would also remove the social ' customary' privileges that are attached to the female gender e.g Being a gentleman is unarguably expected of a guy be it convenient or not. Among some other things
that your point 4 is cool but the example is not really a perfect one case in point ; the matter of gender colour assignment is more of a social trend than any other thing and can change at any time and everyone will still get on board. I have at one point read that in the mid 20th century, Blue was seen as a feminine colour and Pink a male colour but the reverse is the case today and no one is really worried. Gender Equality really won't affect a case of social trend.
I'm all for respect of women but this Gender Equality movement still has a long way from being perfect. Even western Nations haven't made equality in all aspects and more questions keep rising by the day.
In all I appreciate the write up

DivaFiva:


I will submit to him and him alone.
Not to the men in my community, my male co-workers, my brothers or uncles...just because they have "my type at home" or they have balls.
Get your self a chill pill... Dawg.

AbrahamLincoln:


Ohh shoot, now you think you got balls like them too and they just tryna act?
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oya dab

DivaFiva:

Actually, I've got bigger balls called boobs

DivaFiva:


We are not stupid.
Maybe the females in your family is but best believe a good chunk of us are made of beauty and brains.

DivaFiva:


We are not stupid.
Maybe the females in your family is but best believe a good chunk of us are made of beauty and brains.

AbrahamLincoln:

Exactly my point, so you think genders must be equal cos we all got balls but you forgot we don't use balls but brains and y'all got fish brains.
Go through all my posts here, it's all an advice, take it.see
Get a man before it's too late

DivaFiva:


Men know what they are doing and we are still a mess?
Anyway, being disrespectful is not a right, it is a character flaw of am INDIVIDUAL not the entire women in a country.
The bill that FORMALLY allows women to own property, be equal in the eyes of the LAW is actually very necessary. It is by no means being equal in the sight of God because that has been made clear that we are anything but equal as per religion.

Okay oooo

DivaFiva:


An oppressed woman will lash out and an oppressed man will too.
I am not making moral judgment or saying any is more evil than the other. If anything, I'm saying give both freedom to be evil as well a good.
I am not a misandrist... I'm not saying "Men are evil", I'm saying "Women deserve more".

AbrahamLincoln:


Exactly my point, so you think genders must be equal cos we all got balls but you forgot we don't use balls but brains and y'all got fish brains.

Go through all my posts here, it's all an advice, take it.
Get a man before it's too late

DivaFiva:

Thanks for taking time to respond.
Gender Favoritism is actually prevalent because we have been relegated to the background for years and unless certain policies are set to make more and more women have the right tools to speak for themselves or be independent, it will take longer for the equality to be achieved.
Social trend is the same reason I have both faith in/fear for Nigeria, seeing that we are lovers of trends. Soon we will copy but if our leaders are forward thinkers these adjustments don't have to blatantly copy the west because let's face it, theirs is the pop culture we see every day.
Customary privileges I would love to see us get rid off is "Don't hit a woman, even if she hits you". People should learn to keep their hands to themselves and use their words instead.
No system is all perfect in all instances. Our present situation is far from perfect and we are all not dead...yet. What stops us from accepting a relatively better ideal that promotes better values.

DivaFiva:


So basically, make the lives of just men EASIER with the law.
I think a lot of men get married on credit...impregnable the girl and watch her family reduce the "price". You don't need law for that.
The law is a FORMAL step to make every doubting Thomas know that in FACT women are worth as much as men are.
SIMPLE.
The laws will make traditions that still oppress women die out eventually after a few lawsuits. Homosexuality is a different thing all together.

kevinberry:
you have not answer my question,will you support the government should they decide to abolish bride price,will you condemn verbal abuse towards men as you do towards domestic and physical abuse towards women...

Before the law can be passed the lawmakers will have to keep religion,culture and moral values aside,these were the things considered before they pass the homosexuality bill...

To me the general HUMAN UNIVERSAL HUMAN right have given everybody the go ahead to be whatever they want to be..

There is a ministry for women affairs none for men isn't that injustice and partiality,there is worldwide outcry against violence towards women none against verbal violence and abuse towards men, you cannot support bride price and yet demand for quotas for women in politics,there is no law preventing women from being elected,you can't force the populace to vote for women through special laws it won't work,they all have freedom of thought and freedom to choose their own candidate...

Should I become the president of nigeria some day,I will scrap the ministry of women affairs or I will create one for men too

I want gender equity not equality
Equity(an equal playing ground) equality(the same outcome even if you don't worth it)

The universal human right is equity,that is enough...

Lend your voice in supporting the abolishing of bride price and also in condemning verbal abuse towards men

Good morning

troy20:

"...people should learn to keep their hands to themselves but use their words instead" words that are more even damaging and suited to your own strenght as a woman.how smart! Look here woman do you realise you are making a daclaration of war and seeking our support to win it aswell? its a matter of perspective no doubt but that's what it is to us.the eventual outcome of your intentions are doubtfull going by the situation of our phallus-dangling white brothers of the west and europe.let me give you a tip.you will have to raise your sons with the men bred out of them if you want to succeed.

DivaFiva:

I have zero issues with abolishing bride price but a lot of people will support it cause it is tradition.
A huge percentage of this price goes to the men in the family.
Equity is an ideal in an already equal society. In this case, even if the opportunities do not explicitly segregate men from women, there are underlying religious and cultural values and rituals we have that often suggest that women are less deserving.
All I'm saying the Law should overrule those and have the final say.

kevinberry:
equity and equality can't go together in a society,it either quotas(equality) or equal playing grounds(equity) the former is what is been preached and practice in our world today...you will hear women organizations requesting for slots in public offices instead of them fighting for it just like the men,they will asked to be vice president instead of forming their own party and running for president instead...

The general human right promotes and encourage equity,women fighting for equality just want quotas

But still I still want the world to recognize verbal abuse no matter the gender involved,I want both parents to take care of their child when divorce occurs,people can't be preaching gender equality and then turn the table around making men providers and women care givers when it comes to divorce that is not equality..we need to start telling ourselves the truth

DivaFiva:

I have zero issues with abolishing bride price but a lot of people will support it cause it is tradition.
A huge percentage of this price goes to the men in the family.
Equity is an ideal in an already equal society. In this case, even if the opportunities do not explicitly segregate men from women, there are underlying religious and cultural values and rituals we have that often suggest that women are less deserving.
All I'm saying the Law should overrule those and have the final say.