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Re: Which Weighs More? Full Or Empty Flash Drive? by johnydon22(m): 10:54am On Apr 09, 2016
tobbie247:
Yes I know. I'm talking from mere human perception, not physics.

Thanks.
But in this case we should talk Physics as "Physics" is a human way of deducting what is true deeper than our perception.

if we put human perception above physics in such case, human perception becomes deceptive and an enemy of truth
Re: Which Weighs More? Full Or Empty Flash Drive? by McSterling(op): 12:15pm On Apr 09, 2016
tobbie247:
So after calculating, who e hep? cry
What are you saying?
Re: Which Weighs More? Full Or Empty Flash Drive? by tobbie247(m): 12:16pm On Apr 09, 2016
johnydon22:
But in this case we should talk Physics as "Physics" is a human way of deducting what is true deeper than our perception.

if we put human perception above physics in such case, human perception becomes deceptive and an enemy of truth
In that case, write pie in mathematics on a piece of paperin a note book without approximating the digits so you don't deceive yourself when next you use it.
Re: Which Weighs More? Full Or Empty Flash Drive? by tobbie247(m): 12:19pm On Apr 09, 2016
McSterling:
What are you saying?
It's negligible.
Re: Which Weighs More? Full Or Empty Flash Drive? by johnydon22(m): 12:28pm On Apr 09, 2016
tobbie247:
In that case, write pie in mathematics on a piece of paperin a note book without approximating the digits so you don't deceive yourself when next you use it.
A mathematical calculation of a macro value, is not same as a calculation at a miniscule level.

There is no argument here.. the OP's question was

"If there would be a change in weight?"

The answer is yes, he didn't ask whether is was negligible of not, that is a totally different answer all together…

So what ever way the truth remains there was a change in weight no matter how tiny it is..
Re: Which Weighs More? Full Or Empty Flash Drive? by McSterling(op): 12:42pm On Apr 09, 2016
tobbie247:
It's negligible.
That's already established. There's no denying that. But we've made it clear to you that change on a quantum or negligible scale cannot be approximated to zero in this instance. We're dealings with precise physics here. We tell it as it is. No approximations. When you are given a calculation whose answer is say 1.1* 10^-22, and you give your answer as zero, your professor will most likely fail you.
By your logic too, the mass of an electron should be 0 kg rather than the precise value of 9.1* 10^-31 kg.
Re: Which Weighs More? Full Or Empty Flash Drive? by tobbie247(m): 2:58pm On Apr 09, 2016
McSterling:
That's already established. There's no denying that. But we've made it clear to you that change on a quantum or negligible scale cannot be approximated to zero in this instance. We're dealings with precise physics here. We tell it as it is. No approximations. When you are given a calculation whose answer is say 1.1* 10^-22, and you give your answer as zero, your professor will most likely fail you.
By your logic too, the mass of an electron should be 0 kg rather than the precise value of 9.1* 10^-31 kg.
If I say it's negligible, doesn't that mean that there's a change already but it's really small?

I only used the notebook example to tell how minute the difference is.
Re: Which Weighs More? Full Or Empty Flash Drive? by tobbie247(m): 3:04pm On Apr 09, 2016
johnydon22:
The answer is yes, he didn't ask whether is was negligible of not, that is a totally different answer all together…

So what ever way the truth remains there was a change in weight no matter how tiny it is..
What part of "it's negligible" points to the fact that there's no change in mass?
Re: Which Weighs More? Full Or Empty Flash Drive? by McSterling(op): 6:36pm On Apr 09, 2016
tobbie247:
If I say it's negligible, doesn't that mean that there's a change already but it's really small?

I only used the notebook example to tell how minute the difference is.
ok
Re: Which Weighs More? Full Or Empty Flash Drive? by tobbie247(m): 8:57pm On Apr 09, 2016
McSterling:
ok
Don't mind me. I know I'm fraustrating but then since NYSC has refused to call us, I have been fraustrating and annoying people on the internet. I'm sorry. cry grin
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