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Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:35am On Apr 12, 2016

Speaking with THISDAY in Abuja on Monday, the presidency source, who pleaded anonymity, said when the error committed by the Budget Office was discovered, Ameachi quickly forwarded a memo to the Budget Office, drawing its attention to the error and it was quickly corrected.

The source added: “Minister Ameachi did not stop there, he followed it up with several meetings with Senator Gbenga Ashafa and during the defence of the budget, Amaechi informed the committee of the omission of the Lagos-Calabar rail modernisation project and indeed sent a supplementary copy of the ministry’s budget to the committee, which contained the said project.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/04/12/calabar-lagos-rail-project-that-was-never-listed-triggers-a-spat/

Niger Delta People and Senators, Fight Amaechi. Fight him well and let me see who will fight for you at Abuja.

Disgrace him for GEJ.

Amaechi is one of the few men that have brought development to the Niger Delta.

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Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by Kenmoris22: 9:37am On Apr 12, 2016

And some stupid ipob will be here blaming amachi cause of there so called hatred forgotten that amechi is doing it for there own interest what clueless can not do for his people after 6 yrs in power

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Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by Image123(m): 9:42am On Apr 12, 2016

TonyeBarcanista:
My position exactly! I have never seen where a minister will bring his own extra budgetary provision outside what the President submitted. Nigeria is not running parallel presidency. The Lagos-Calabar Rail project was NEVER in the budget.

Over 50billion allocated to the ministry was floating in the budget. What then is the point of a minister defending budget, why not call the person that submitted it? Why did they not say all these during the defense?

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Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:47am On Apr 12, 2016

“I can tell you that it was the House of Representatives that removed it for obvious reasons. The ministry was harassed by the House members during the defence of the budget, demanding for one thing or the other. If Hon. Abdulmumim said the Lagos-Calabar Rail project was not in the original budget, let him also show you where N92 billion was provided for the Lagos-Kano rail project in the original budget that he is making reference to?

“On the rehabilitation of some airports, the Ministry of Transportation did make provision for them in the budget we submitted, and the National Assembly on its own appropriated N4 billion to this. They are just lying. And we challenged them to produce the report the Senate Committee on Land Transport sent to the Ministry of Transportation.”... Senator Gbenga Ashafa.

Our Niger Delta people will even support the North to carry all the projects because...

They hate Amaechi for removing their Brother.

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Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by Bgorgeous: 9:48am On Apr 12, 2016

Hide your faces in shame . all these re happening because there is no Ghana must go going round anymore. Brace up to the CHANGE

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Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by Nbote(m): 9:55am On Apr 12, 2016

ezivision:
there is no award for foolishness. As fayose hates pmb, he still ask senators to clear fayemi for minister, but alas! My people will reject any good from this govt because their hate. This is project their idol could not do in 6yrs. Did amechi insert keke-napep & local roads without design in the budget also, pls get sense.

Some of these zombies are really really really pathetic.. Now dat d truth has come out won't u guys jus shut ur mouths for once and agree dat was wrong huh

Dey were quick to pad d budget with loads of junk but forgot to include meaningful projects and den try to smuggle in some projects and still make bold claims about it. Well if dey want d railroad project let dem go and put it demselves. Rubbish.

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Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by Tokety7: 10:07am On Apr 12, 2016

TonyeBarcanista:
My position exactly! I have never seen where a minister will bring his own extra budgetary provision outside what the President submitted. Nigeria is not running parallel presidency. The Lagos-Calabar Rail project was NEVER in the budget.

Foolish talk.
Right in this country we once had a fool of a President who sat comfortably in aso rock and asked his "prime minister" to go present budget to both Houses. It was well received and u lot never had any issues with it. Hypocrites.

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Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by fabre4: 10:10am On Apr 12, 2016

ezivision:
there is no award for foolishness. As fayose hates pmb, he still ask senators to clear fayemi for minister, but alas! My people will reject any good from this govt because their hate. This is project their idol could not do in 6yrs. Did amechi insert keke-napep & local roads without design in the budget also, pls get sense.

zombie spotted!!! even in the presence of evidence
you allow foolishness to over cloud your sense of judgement

Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by hopilo: 10:16am On Apr 12, 2016

APC come to power through lies and now they NASS led by APC and the executive led by APC cannot trust each other because they know themselves in the business of telling lies.

Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by poiZon: 10:53am On Apr 12, 2016

dexterinc2003:
Questions that need to be clarified.

1. Why didnt the NASS address the issue while it was on the floor (i.e while Amaechi allegedly defended the amended budget).?

2. Was any of the sums intended for the lagos-calabar rail removed and added to the kano rail project?

All i see here is NASS playing with our collective intelligence as a nation.(based on the loop that amaechi ammended the budget with the knowledge of the presidency)
So its ok for a minister to defend a budget,while you keep silent on its invalidity, only for you to divert those 'invalid' funds to other projects.
Chai!!!

if u had followed the passing of that budget, u will know it was done exclusively by the senate.
but the details was drafted by the represenTives, hon abdulmumin.
now the lower house raised a point that the suplementary budget by amaechi n the defence of that project in question was done mainly by the senate n not the normal joint NASS as it is always.
my guy that is d point.
not coming here to attack people who r by far better than u.

Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by ajbabs(m): 11:00am On Apr 12, 2016

ezivision:
there is no award for foolishness. As fayose hates pmb, he still ask senators to clear fayemi for minister, but alas! My people will reject any good from this govt because their hate. This is project their idol could not do in 6yrs. Did amechi insert keke-napep & local roads without design in the budget also, pls get sense.

National Assembly has right under Nigerian constitution to modify budget presented to it by the president. Also, it is a mere law provision in order to honour president for him to sign the budget in law after the budget might have been passed by both chambers of the national assembly. But in a situation where any president of the federation want to prove too hard, after a time frame, the national assembly shall have right to pass the budget into law themselves and it shall bind on the presidency (executive) and even the judiciary.

Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by stonemasonn: 11:02am On Apr 12, 2016

TonyeBarcanista:
My position exactly! I have never seen where a minister will bring his own extra budgetary provision outside what the President submitted. Nigeria is not running parallel presidency. The Lagos-Calabar Rail project was NEVER in the budget.

my friend even directors in the ministry can bring so called extra budgetary provisions and is approved through lobbying (money changing hands).

Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by ajbabs(m): 11:06am On Apr 12, 2016

Tokety7:

Foolish talk.
Right in this country we once had a fool of a President who sat comfortably in aso rock and asked his "prime minister" to go present budget to both Houses. It was well received and u lot never had any issues with it. Hypocrites.

Nigerian constitution did not mandate for president to there himself/herself compulsorily. Some of you commentors on nairaland are kids and naive politically.

Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by poiZon: 11:07am On Apr 12, 2016

modath:
Bubu never intended for Lag -Cal but you agreed there was padding, lots of errors & ommissions in the budget ba? & 54bn was wakaing aimlessly in the budget too?

NASS unilaterally changed the budget proposal for provision of infrastructures to purchase Keke Napep, cut the budget for special vaccines & such nonsense.... but they couldn't work the rail into the budget despite finding "purposeless" money floating like rudderless ship in the budget? Issokay!!!

Walahi, na North go rule us till thy kingdom come! Na dem be baba!!

sista as u can see the only committee that did hear abt this lagos calabar rail project was the committee on transport headed by ashafa. amaechi brought in new project that was not even in the original and padded budget. is it not funny we r talking of supplementary budget when the real budget was not even passed?
why couldnt apc, amaechi n buhari did the right thing?
I saw how u guys lampooned n abused pdp senators from south as if the control this republic.
when they grouped against amaechi during the screening u guys wailed calling them wailers, that amaechi must enjoy his labour of installing buhari as president. I believe if they knew abt this issue n raised notiin som many of the zombies would hv said what did south est n south south contribute to buhari that will give them such project.
we r even talking abt lagos calabar rail project disappearing from d budget, nobody is questioning buhari for still travelling to china knowing fully well 80percent purpose of his travel to china center on this lagoc calabar rail project.

Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by poiZon: 11:16am On Apr 12, 2016

seunmsg:
But they received the 2014 and 2015 budget from former finance minister, Ngozi Okonjo Iweala. This lawmakers are just clowns grasping at straws to defend what can't be defended.

u shud be ashame of urself for reasoning like a zombie. we r talking of someone smuggling in projects outside what ws in d original budget u r talking of NOI presenting a full budget of that year from the presidency to the NASS.
I think say u dey reason well.

Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by ayindejimmy(m): 11:46am On Apr 12, 2016

anonimi:
Please show us where you saw any fund allocated to it.
Thanks.

In so doing, the committee observed that the Lagos-Kano rail rehabilitation project had been allocated the sum of N52 billion as against the sum of N60 billion, which the minister requested as counterpart funding while no allocation whatsoever was made for the Lagos-Calabar rail line,” the Senator further stated.

“Hence, the sum of N54 billion that was discovered by the Senate Committee on Land Transport to be floating in the budget of the Ministry of Transportation as presented by the executive was injected into augmenting the funds needed for counterpart funding of both projects (Lagos-Kano and Lagos-Calabar Rail modernisation), as at the time the committee defended its report before the Senate Committee on Appropriation,” he said.

He stated that the Lagos-Calabar rail modernisation project was therefore included in the Senate Committee on Land Transport’s recommendation to the Senate Committee on Appropriation.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/04/12/calabar-lagos-rail-project-that-was-never-listed-triggers-a-spat/

Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by ayindejimmy(m): 11:47am On Apr 12, 2016

anonimi:
Please show us where you saw any fund allocated to it.
Thanks.

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Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by Nobody: 11:52am On Apr 12, 2016

anonimi:
Can you please explain how the job is JUICY?
I thought we are in anti-CORRUPTION federal government, not so?
Abi that one too na photocracy paparazzi propaganda ni

www.nairaland.com/attachments/2091052_2084712obama4jpeg0846bececdee51cd258847b713b916e6_jpegd27f893bccf38657d36ce7d37daaa943

Juicy POPPYCOCK Mehn!!

Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:54am On Apr 12, 2016

poiZon:
sista as u can see the only committee that did hear abt this lagos calabar rail project was the committee on transport headed by ashafa. amaechi brought in new project that was not even in the original and padded budget. is it not funny we r talking of supplementary budget when the real budget was not even passed?
why couldnt apc, amaechi n buhari did the right thing?
I saw how u guys lampooned n abused pdp senators from south as if the control this republic.
when they grouped against amaechi during the screening u guys wailed calling them wailers, that amaechi must enjoy his labour of installing buhari as president. I believe if they knew abt this issue n raised notiin som many of the zombies would hv said what did south est n south south contribute to buhari that will give them such project.
we r even talking abt lagos calabar rail project disappearing from d budget, nobody is questioning buhari for still travelling to china knowing fully well 80percent purpose of his travel to china center on this lagoc calabar rail project.

Amaechi did not bring budget.

The Minister for Budget and Planning, Senator Udoma Udo Udoma, told our reporter at the weekend that the government included the project (Lagos-Calabar) in the 'amended budget' and passed it to the Standing Committees of the Senate and the House of Representatives.

http://saharareporters.com/2016/04/11/lagos-calabar-rail-project-new-controversy-between-arms-nigerian-government-over-2016

It was already suppose to be in the budget. There was N120 Billion set aside for both projects. N60 Billion for each.

Amaechi pointed that out and brought a supplementary budget. Note, SUPPLEMENTARY, to prove that in the N120 Billion that the Lagos-Calabar Railway project was among.

The Senate appropriation commitee still went ahead to budget N92 Billion for the Lagos-Kano Rail Project and dropped the omitted Lagos-Calabar Railway project.

An amended Budget was sent to all Committees in the Senate and House of Representatives. In all of them the Lagos-Calabar Railway project was there.

So, Hon. Jibrin can not say he did not know about it but went ahead to budget N92 Billion for the Lagos-Kano rail project.

Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by anonimi: 11:54am On Apr 12, 2016

ayindejimmy:
In so doing, the committee observed that the Lagos-Kano rail rehabilitation project had been allocated the sum of N52 billion as against the sum of N60 billion, which the minister requested as counterpart funding while no allocation whatsoever was made for the Lagos-Calabar rail line,” the Senator further stated.

“Hence, the sum of N54 billion that was discovered by the Senate Committee on Land Transport to be floating in the budget of the Ministry of Transportation as presented by the executive was injected into augmenting the funds needed for counterpart funding of both projects (Lagos-Kano and Lagos-Calabar Rail modernisation), as at the time the committee defended its report before the Senate Committee on Appropriation,” he said.

He stated that the Lagos-Calabar rail modernisation project was therefore included in the Senate Committee on Land Transport’s recommendation to the Senate Committee on Appropriation.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/04/12/calabar-lagos-rail-project-that-was-never-listed-triggers-a-spat/

The above shows money was provided for the project even the Senate Committee but some element did some Abakatabra

What do you think of the highlighted portion huh

Thanks.

Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by Eguaikide(m): 11:55am On Apr 12, 2016

We've got a whole lot of dunce on Nairaland! Amaechi was once a governor- right?? How good would it have been if a commissioner under his reign woke up and sent a bill to the state house of assembly under his reign to get it passed huh

? It's a common sense stuff, no one can send a national budget to the Senate or the Rep without due diligence through the executive which is the the president of the Federation! Let's reason as human for once and leave this zombie and wailing reasoning for once!
God bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria!

Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:57am On Apr 12, 2016

ayindejimmy:
In so doing, the committee observed that the Lagos-Kano rail rehabilitation project had been allocated the sum of N52 billion as against the sum of N60 billion, which the minister requested as counterpart funding while no allocation whatsoever was made for the Lagos-Calabar rail line,” the Senator further stated.

“Hence, the sum of N54 billion that was discovered by the Senate Committee on Land Transport to be floating in the budget of the Ministry of Transportation as presented by the executive was injected into augmenting the funds needed for counterpart funding of both projects (Lagos-Kano and Lagos-Calabar Rail modernisation), as at the time the committee defended its report before the Senate Committee on Appropriation,” he said.

He stated that the Lagos-Calabar rail modernisation project was therefore included in the Senate Committee on Land Transport’s recommendation to the Senate Committee on Appropriation.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/04/12/calabar-lagos-rail-project-that-was-never-listed-triggers-a-spat/

The above shows money was provided for the project even the Senate Committee but some element did some Abakatabra

That is the fact. There was provision for the money. Hon. Jibrin is acting as if he had no idea of it. They are lying.

Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by buJu234: 11:57am On Apr 12, 2016

Ok we don hear..

it was not there originally;

can u plz include it now since the Budget hasn't been finally signed.

I think this will end the war.

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Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:59am On Apr 12, 2016

anonimi:
What do you think of the highlighted portion
Thanks.

You and I know there was already a lot of tampering with the Budget. There was provision for the project but Lagos-Calabar Railway project was omitted.

So in the amended budget, it was corrected and Amaechi was sent by the government to defend it.

Hon. Jibrin and his crew should get ready to return the project.

Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by mapet: 12:15pm On Apr 12, 2016

cktheluckyman:
Buhari never intended to build any lagos-calabar rail lines that was why he did not include it in the budget.He just created this scenario to embarass the NASS.He never had any such intention.A very useless and clannish president.That is what you get when you elect a NEPA bill certificate holder as president

Why are you allowing hatred to force stuupidity out of you. The same Cal-Lagos rail line loan is part of PMB is currently finalising in China

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Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by mapet: 12:31pm On Apr 12, 2016

TonyeBarcanista:
My position exactly! I have never seen where a minister will bring his own extra budgetary provision outside what the President submitted. Nigeria is not running parallel presidency. The Lagos-Calabar Rail project was NEVER in the budget.

....Yet the committee sat and allowed Amaechi to defend the it with both the committee on Transport and appropriations? Yet the president sent it back naming it as one of the exclusions?

We need to ask ourselves what is of immense benefit? You stand and argue it's non inclusion in the budget yet find it acceptable that a floating N57b was distributed to fictitious projects in the North (Keke NAPEP, Vaccines, Solar Street lights etc?)

Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by adeboizy11(m): 12:39pm On Apr 12, 2016

perryjohn:
Always ultra pad comes to mind

Na Regular abi Super?

Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by Charly68: 1:07pm On Apr 12, 2016

The NASS men are terrible ,they are masters in lies fabrication. .Headed by Dogara the chief liar himself..nonsense people that can not draw the line between political interest & national interest .

Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by dadah04(m): 1:16pm On Apr 12, 2016

Honestly,there's no need wasting words on these senators this project goes beyond hatred for buhari or amaechi or apc. The Lagos-calabar railway is beneficial to Nigeria so they should do the needful and include the project rather than allocating more funds to the Lagos-Kano railway(from 60b -92b) and sharing the rest to their nefarious consistency projects,all to the detriment of the SW,SS & SE region. These so call Senators representing these regions SW,SE &SS must fight for it to be included or be termed shameless and without focus if they can't see the huge impact of this rail project on their people....People of the SS,SW & SE wake up and see broad day robbery in progress.

Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by Tokety7: 2:02pm On Apr 12, 2016

ajbabs:
Nigerian constitution did not mandate for president to there himself/herself compulsorily. Some of you commentors on nairaland are kids and naive politically.

u are the kiddo here u know.where in that post u qouted did i suggest it was a must? was only highlighting the hypocrisy of the nut i qouted.

Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by DrSanya: 2:16pm On Apr 12, 2016

I am suprise at that level of thinking of some people here on NL. Imagine you sending ur wife to market to buy food stuffs, after realising that pepper is not included, is it not possible to send one of your children to your wife to give her peper money so that she can buy it. Thus created issue is as a result of backstaps in the Senate and Rep. I knew it will affect the nations development. Saraki and co should vacate their sits and allow Nigeria to move forward. Important project like this should have being confirm from presidency instaed of leaving it out. My take

Re: Reps To Amaechi: We Don't Receive Budget Proposals From Ministers by ayindejimmy(m): 3:31pm On Apr 12, 2016

anonimi:
Please show us where you saw any fund allocated to it.
Thanks.

In so doing, the committee observed that the Lagos-Kano rail rehabilitation project had been allocated the sum of N52 billion as against the sum of N60 billion, which the minister requested as counterpart funding while no allocation whatsoever was made for the Lagos-Calabar rail line,â€ the Senator further stated.

â€œHence, the sum of N54 billion that was discovered by the Senate Committee on Land Transport to be floating in the budget of the Ministry of Transportation as presented by the executive was injected into augmenting the funds needed for counterpart funding of both projects (Lagos-Kano and Lagos-Calabar Rail modernisation), as at the time the committee defended its report before the Senate Committee on Appropriation,â€ he said.

He stated that the Lagos-Calabar rail modernisation project was therefore included in the Senate Committee on Land Transportâ€™s recommendation to the Senate Committee on Appropriation.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/04/12/calabar-lagos-rail-project-that-was-never-listed-triggers-a-spat/

The above shows money was provided for the project even the Senate Committee but some element did some Abakatabra

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