₦airaland Forum

freeze001:
I beg to disagree with your last paragraph. I do strongly believe that a more dynamic leadership would have been more efficient in steering this country out of its myriad problems without worsening the situation as we have now. I know for a fact that a leader determined to actually set Nigeria on a better course to progress and greatness would have taken stock of the tools it received upon ascension into office and sought to make them fit for purpose. Sheer force of will as we are led to believe the president has is not enough. It is not one man show! The FG in its entirety is structured to run Nigeria as a one-man show and it cannot work. That is why we have not gotten it right till now. The current structure we operate was designed to fail from inception and refusal to change it will only spell more doom.

This centralised system of government is faulty and wired to gibe undue advantage to some at the detriment of others.. Nigerians are more aware and need to be more involved. No one wants to be pushed around or dictated to anymore and attempts to do that will be strongly resisted. It may be couched as corruption fighting back but in the real sense of it, it is the hens coming home to roost because of persistent application of wrong methods of leadership. This budget crap is only one major symptom. The change needs to be more substantial and fundamental not the superficial fixes being attempted. They will not work!

Waoh. Bravo to you! one question please; are you sure you are a lady or a guy? Am impressed if u are actually a lady! I have been trying to break my conversation down with you cos I feel ladies are hardly deep when it comes to politics but now am thrilled by your submission and hence I correct that notion.

Dear, you are right but the truth still remains that things have gone worst before this administration unless ofcourse we are trying to deceive ourselves. I also agree to your points on this administration kicking off late, early kickoff would have help us to some extent. But I want to believe that this government is facing some kind of stiff opposition which may not be open to the populace. We won't zero sabotage but they need to hit the ground running if at all there is any.

There won't be any miracle done us by the past administration all they will do is to cover up their inefficiency and make things looks like it's working. We never had any economic blueprint, if we had that, we won't be singing diversification now.

We are definitely suffering from previous inadequacies and this year alone won't cover anything up for us, our finance is badly hit and exposed, no immediate solution unless ofcourse our golden means rises that's when we will have immediate succour. However Strong this Buhari team will be, we won't escape 2016 financial beating....

laribari:
Bros First and foremost i didn't and never mentioned abroad, so i do not understand what you are reading or seeing.

Besides, it is very ******* to tell someone you don't even know ...........[s]HAVE YOU TRAVELED ABROAD BEFORE? FORGET WHAT YOU SEE ON TV.[/s]

Do you know me or my activities? Oh so you think because most people talk on Nairaland, then they lack internationally exposure. How can you ever judge someone by their text or because they use certain platform?

I try not to judge people or talk about their personal life and that is why i haven't JUDGED Buhari's govt yet because they just started.

Mind you, i am not sentimental and i say things the way they are. Once again, WHY DO YOU THINK I AM A LOYALIST to Buhuari? Do you even know that i didn't VOTE HIM? I can't deny him if i did, after all i'm still openly backing his govt, only based on what i have seen so far. It does not take alot to win someone's heart or loyalty.

I said it in one of my posts that i have seen enuf reason to have faith in him.............. I said HAVE FAITH in case you try to read meaning into it.

I can criticize and judge the last govt because their era has come and gone and we can now say let's look at what they did and score it good or bad. I repeat i can correctly judge that govt but why will i judge a govt that just started and i have seen some promise already. Abi dem they judge football match for first half? Even fifa had to cancel golden goal for football because it doesn't give enuf room for expression.

It is people like you that is spoiling this country because when you see black you call it another name. With all the last govt has done and the revelations that have been made so far, do you still defend such wicked people?

According to you "GEJ and PMB are not the problem of Nigeria". For me, i will always accuse OBJ for being one of the founding fathers that ruin Nigeria and i can now add GEJ to the long list because he had the chance (6 years) to make things better and failed. So how is he not a problem of this country? Did he even try to fight corruption or he promoted it? However, the biggest problem still boils down to the masses who are so blind and sentimental.

Make Buhari fail, i will be among those that will blast him. If he fails, he will be voted out like uncle Goodluck. Chikina

I don speak my mind and i go still speak more!

You don't judge Buhari's government because it just started, you have faith in him because you've seen what he's doing.. You're even contradicting urself, try to listen to yourself, try to be logical and organize your thoughts into words before you spill them.

I don't want to sound like an apologist for GEJ for he failed but saying he didn't fight corruption in his own bit because you are loyal to another is Rather unfair. The FOI bill he signed exposed so many stuffs, including the amount he spends... That's fighting corruption via institutional reforms, you know the number of ghost workers detected during his era? To say d least...

You are one very unjust judge, yet you'll shout you ain't judging.. I'm done arguing with u, believe whatever u believe, do all screaming, judgement on social media, prosecute them there too.


The current government is failing woefully at the moment for rather than sit, determine failed and failing sector and come up with a plan to man them, they stick to blaming events past or present that can not be changed.. Minions like you who should pick that out are being used to keep criticizing a past yet failed government.. Note that your criticism, insult, judgement of previous government will amount to nothing for they are gone.. Criticize the current so they'll do the right thing, but you sure don't have balls to that.. So keep praising them until your shelter is taken and u sleep under d skies

freeze001:
Drama! The monumental incompetence and corruption of this current government reeks of deliberate collusion to shortchange Nigerians and it stinks to high heavens!

What manner of madness and stupidity rests so heavily on the Executive and Legislature that they cannot get an important document like the National Budget right? Very soon Buhari will think up another useless trip while Nigerians watch the NASS buy exotic cars and nothing gets done!

This project/contraption called Nigeria is as good as finished! It is in the throes of death as all these sickening events unfold.

EOD

freeze001:
I still maintain that incompetence, greed and corruption are the hallmarks of this administration. Getting things right ought to have started from picking his team early particularly for crucial areas. I certainly expected a complete departure from previous budgetary provisions and allocations which will reflect the reality of the current economic situation. Instead recurrent expenditure is increased even more eg Aso rock feeding expenses, state house hospital, VPs books and so on.

These already point at havin the same only worse this time than before. How can there be such low oil prices but the cost of useless frivolities were increased? If the extra 2 trillion added to give us a 6 trillion plus budget was strictly on justifiable capital projects I'd have been happier than seeing that recurrent expenditures were actually increased and are over bloated. To think we're actually borrowing more than half of the money needed to fund waste, incompetence, more theft and frivolities!
Certainly doesn't look like a team including a president that supposedly believes that what is worth doing is worth doing well.

The reason for a ruling party to have majority members in the Legislature is to ensure fairly good synergy between the Executive and Legislature without one being in the pocket of the other. The inability of the APC to get its act together despite being the ruling party and in the majority only shows their hollow ideology and ineptitude. This budget is a clear marker of this.

The greed and pure lack of character is clearly displayed by both the Executive and Legislature and there's no denying it. Mr President cannot work alone and must learn to set up and operate a crack team with efficient team players. That individualistic streak like he's the most pure and incorruptible will be his undoing. He can no longer be a lone wolf, he has to run with the pack while retaining his distinctive alpha male status.

The problem comes from having faith in 'Baba' as a person, it will fail because he cannot singlehandedly achieve anything. He needs a team that understands and believes in whatever dream he may have which must translate to a better Nigeria. As it stands, APC is a bed if strange bed fellows with contrived camaraderie...that is why this budget marks his failure already.

This is a constructive and objective criticism!

Someone with a comprehension problem and a subjective mind set will still call the valid assertions above as senseless and a pdp rant? HOW

tuale4u:
This clearly shows Buhari is a president with clear vision and mission. He is focus on his goal and wont allow unneccesary politics by NASS to distract him

Just as the NASS can not just approve the original Budget d way Buhari sent it to them, So also is d right of the president to review what NASS sent to him.

Yes d delay might prolong d current pain, but it is d right thing to do.

Everytin about this Budget has proven Buhari is a man of integrity with uncommon courage. This is d first true Budget in d last 16 years. For the first time, many Nigerians have a reasonable idea of the content of the Budget in detail. Before now, money will change hand with Ghana must go, and d budget will be pass.
B4 now , NASS was a secret cult. But today because of Buhari unwillingness to share money, NASS has become open.

God bless PMB
God bless Nigeria

God bless u for the understanding!!!

Then you do a great disservice to the womenfolk. You were trying to break it down like females are automatically simpletons in political matters? Haba! I am not confused about my sex, definitely female!

You see, apart from the late kick off, it is a wrong one. The ministerial appointments eg placing a mass communication first degree holder over a Professor of Education in the Ministry of Education, lumping power, works and housing for one person etc...these are accidents waiting to happen. There is no doubt that the low oil prices have affected our finances negatively but starting out on the right footing would have seen sound policies creating a buffer for the citizens so we aren't dealt the raw deal we are forced to contend with now.
We would have been better off fixing our home and making Nigeria really attractive for investments rather than go begging and short changing the country in the process.

Visiting the recommendations of the CONFAB would have also been a good place to start rather than confining it to the dustbin as has been done. Even conciliatory statements and pronouncements would have won more citizen support than 95% and 5% postulations.

There is so much that could have been done right and would not need any international funding/borrowing to implement. The deafening silence and deliberate inaction on the fulani herdsmen menace is enough to make people develop negative feelings and he further loses goodwill.

I do believe that it is better to raise alarms now which has been classified as wailing than to remain mute and cry after the deed has been done. That silence is what made PDP get away with a lot of impunity so once bitten...u know the rest.

Kunlegzy:
Waoh. Bravo to you! one question please; are you sure you are a lady or a guy? Am impressed if u are actually a lady! I have been trying to break my conversation down with you cos I feel ladies are hardly deep when it comes to politics but now am thrilled by your submission and hence I correct that notion.

Dear, you are right but the truth still remains that things have gone worst before this administration unless ofcourse we are trying to deceive ourselves. I also agree to your points on this administration kicking off late, early kickoff would have help us to some extent. But I want to believe that this government is facing some kind of stiff opposition which may not be open to the populace. We won't zero sabotage but they need to hit the ground running if at all there is any.

There won't be any miracle done us by the past administration all they will do is to cover up their inefficiency and make things looks like it's working. We never had any economic blueprint, if we had that, we won't be singing diversification now.

We are definitely suffering from previous inadequacies and this year alone won't cover anything up for us, our finance is badly hit and exposed, no immediate solution unless ofcourse our golden means rises that's when we will have immediate succour. However Strong this Buhari team will be, we won't escape 2016 financial beating....

tuale4u:
This clearly shows Buhari is a president with clear vision and mission. He is focus on his goal and wont allow unneccesary politics by NASS to distract him

Just as the NASS can not just approve the original Budget d way Buhari sent it to them, So also is d right of the president to review what NASS sent to him.

Yes d delay might prolong d current pain, but it is d right thing to do

God bless NIGERIA
God bless PMB
God bless your KNOWLEDGE

freeze001:
Then you do a great disservice to the womenfolk. You were trying to break it down like females are automatically simpletons in political matters? Haba! I am not confused about my sex, definitely female!

You see, apart from the late kick off, it is a wrong one. The ministerial appointments eg placing a mass communication first degree holder over a Professor of Education in the Ministry of Education, lumping power, works and housing for one person etc...these are accidents waiting to happen. There is no doubt that the low oil prices have affected our finances negatively but starting out on the right footing would have seen sound policies creating a buffer for the citizens so we aren't dealt the raw deal we are forced to contend with now.
We would have been better off fixing our home and making Nigeria really attractive for investments rather than go begging and short changing the country in the process.

Visiting the recommendations of the CONFAB would have also been a good place to start rather than confining it to the dustbin as has been done. Even conciliatory statements and pronouncements would have won more citizen support than 95% and 5% postulations.

There is so much that could have been done right and would not need any international funding/borrowing to implement. The deafening silence and deliberate inaction on the fulani herdsmen menace is enough to make people develop negative feelings and he further loses goodwill.

I do believe that it is better to raise alarms now which has been classified as wailing than to remain mute and cry after the deed has been done. That silence is what made PDP get away with a lot of impunity so once bitten...u know the rest.

You have made some cogent points! I wish I can cross tackle to you on some other points I don't agree with. But to be honest you really engage me very well in this discussion by so doing I wish to shift base in accordance with your argument. You have impressed me a lot and I respect that.

You are intuned with happening around..... I love that a lot.
Thanks for schooling me lol. I still believe by the end of this administration we will still have one or two things to cheer about. Long Live the Federal Republic of Nigeria. One love dear. We chat later

erekoshe:
You don't judge Buhari's government because it just started, you have faith in him because you've seen what he's doing.. You're even contradicting urself, try to listen to yourself, try to be logical and organize your thoughts into words before you spill them.

I don't want to sound like an apologist for GEJ for he failed but saying he didn't fight corruption in his own bit because you are loyal to another is Rather unfair. The FOI bill he signed exposed so many stuffs, including the amount he spends... That's fighting corruption via institutional reforms, you know the number of ghost workers detected during his era? To say d least...

You are one very unjust judge, yet you'll shout you ain't judging.. I'm done arguing with u, believe whatever u believe, do all screaming, judgement on social media, prosecute them there too.


The current government is failing woefully at the moment for rather than sit, determine failed and failing sector and come up with a plan to man them, they stick to blaming events past or present that can not be changed.. Minions like you who should pick that out are being used to keep criticizing a past yet failed government.. Note that your criticism, insult, judgment of previous government will amount to nothing for they are gone.. Criticize the current so they'll do the right thing, but you sure don't have balls to that.. So keep praising them until your shelter is taken and u sleep under d skies

Bros do you know what judgment is? which contradiction? I do not make partial judgment and obviously u can't read as you are confused with words.

firstly, you accused me of mentioning abroad even when I didn't mention a word of that and now you still say I'm buhari loyalist despite I didn't vote him as clearly stated.

Secondly, i said if he fails I will be among those to still blast him, so how does it make me a loyalist? Is buhari my uncle or him dey give me money? I am simply saying I cannot conclude his tenure is a failure already because it's just got started. simple!

Apparently, you are the only loyalist here and a biased one at that because you kept supporting and blindfully defending a GOVT that failed woefully and nothing to show for 6yrs. Environmental sanitation that we observe today was created by this same buhari and that is a legacy because for years we have kept it, being that it is good.

I do not judge partially like u are doing because u must give people ENUF time before judging them. Buhari is there for 4 yrs and you are already ranting when he's not even used half of it. I'm judging the last government over 6yrs of their time in office. Fashola is being judged today over 8 yrs and I give him standing ovation for that. the best leader I have seen recently in Nigeria. it was not perfect but better off.

I'm sure when he just started demolishing building, impatient people like you were blasting him in his demolition first year in office. I'm very logical than you but you just type without proper reasoning.

Like I said before, I'm sure people like didn't give Fashola any chance when he first came in and una call am Tinubu puppet but if you look back today, his reign was a big success story in the history of Lagos.

buhari has some very smart people in his carbinet so give them time.

Obviously, you have problem with time and I can see that because I have said it over time, you I'm judging based of the length of time a tenure requires. I CAN JUDGE PAST GOVT AFTER THEIR TIME IN OFFICE EXPIRES AND THAT WAY YOU CAN ACCESS CORRECTLY IF THEY PASSED OR FAILED. Hence, I can't judge a GOVT that is not done or not even half way their tenure because many things can still change with regards the calibre of ministers in his carbinet. At least, 90% of them have brains if not more.

laribari:
Bros do you know what judgment is? which contradiction? I do not make partial judgment and obviously u can't read as you are confused with words.

firstly, you accused me of mentioning abroad even when I didn't mention a word of that and now you still say I'm buhari loyalist despite I didn't vote him as clearly stated.

Secondly, i said if he fails I will be among those to still blast him, so how does it make me a loyalist? Is buhari my uncle or him dey give me money? I am simply saying I cannot conclude his tenure is a failure already because it's just got started. simple!

Apparently, you are the only loyalist here and a biased one at that because you kept supporting and blindfully defending a GOVT that failed woefully and nothing to show for 6yrs. Environmental sanitation that we observe today was created by this same buhari and that is a legacy because for years we have kept it, being that it is good.

I do not judge partially like u are doing because u must give people ENUF time before judging them. Buhari is there for 4 yrs and you are already ranting when he's not even used half of it. I'm judging the last government over 6yrs of their time in office. Fashola is being judged today over 8 yrs and I give him standing ovation for that. the best leader I have seen recently in Nigeria. it was not perfect but better off.

I'm sure when he just started demolishing building, impatient people like you were blasting him in his demolition first year in office. I'm very logical than you but you just type without proper reasoning.

Like I said before, I'm sure people like didn't give Fashola any chance when he first came in and una call am Tinubu puppet but if you look back today, his reign was a big success story in the history of Lagos.

buhari has some very smart people in his carbinet so give them time.

Obviously, you have problem with time and I can see that because I have said it over time, you I'm judging based of the length of time a tenure requires. I CAN JUDGE PAST GOVT AFTER THEIR TIME IN OFFICE EXPIRES AND THAT WAY YOU CAN ACCESS CORRECTLY IF THEY PASSED OR FAILED. Hence, I can't judge a GOVT that is not done or not even half way their tenure because many things can still change with regards the calibre of ministers in his carbinet. At least, 90% of them have brains if not more.

Its quite unfortunate, that you're reducing this sane discourse into primitive and personal attacks. 1year is not sufficient to accomplish what they plan to but its sure sufficient to know the direction they're heading.

I apologize for arguing with you, I thought u were capable of a mental discourse without recourse to insults and personal attacks. FYI time is an ingredient nobody has control over and nobody made me or you a judge or jury. This was supposed to be an avenue of learning, discussing what we have no control over, not flabbing and singing the captive's song like you're doing.

FYI the past government is gone, nothing done now will erase their misdeeds. The new government have to forge ahead and right the wrong, at least that's how you should see it not swim in the wallowing-ness of accusations.

Your mentality is so bruised that all your mindset is geared at defending APC and attacking those against (Who brought Fashola and Tinubu into this?), with the sole assumption that whoever don't support your ppl is against them. I'm surprised you haven't called me iPod, you're not difficult to read, you are being ethnocentric.

Fashola, Tinubu, GEJ and all the crops of politicians we have in Nigeria are birds of a feather, they are all thieves and rogues. You know the blind can't see right? People like you are the reason they steal, they buy your mentality without money, youl rise to their defence without a cause.. Fashola on Lagos, achieved much (looking at what he met) but if you call Lagos a success story, then you're sinking in folly. Go to Cairo, Johannesburg, cape town etc and see for yourself. By the way Same Fashola who accused the previous government of inability to fix light in 6 months is unable to fix it in one year.. The highly respected Fashola celebrated Buhari standing on the third row in a photoshoot. I know you'll never read or hear of that-people hear only what they want to hear.

All Nigerian politicians are rogues, the Nigerian youths have misplaced priorities, instead of asking for better governance, they're defending the "our thieves are better than your thieves" cliché.

I don't expect you to understand any of the things I've written and won't reply you after this, just try to emanticipate yourself from ethnic slavery.