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| How The Quran Was Corrupted by truthmans2012(op): 3:12pm On Apr 30, 2016*. Modified: 11:37am On May 01, 2016 |
Muslims have you heard this before, that many words were changed from the original revelations received by Muhammad ? The change was made by one of Muhammad's scribes as you will read below. Many Muslims today proclaim that, "the Qur'an is the speech from Allah, revealed in its precise meaning and wording through the angel Gabriel, transmitted by many, inimitable, unique and protected by Allah Himself against any corruption". Yet we find that the Qur'an has suffered corruption. Remember, all of the sources herewith presented are from early, sincere, dedicated, Muslim writers. There were devout Muslims, not moderates or liberals who would change real Islam for their own ease. So, even in the historical writings of Islam, we find proof of the Qur'an's corruption. Note: These additions by `Abdullah ibn Sarh are still part of the Qur'an today. From Al-Sira by al-'Iraqi The scribes of Muhammad were 42 in number. `Abdallah Ibn Sarh al-`Amiri was one of them, and he was the first Quraishite among those who wrote in Mecca before he turned away from Islam. He started saying, "I used to direct Muhammad wherever I willed. He would dictate to me 'Most High, All-Wise', and I would write down 'All-Wise' only. Then he would say, 'Yes it is all the same'. On a certain occasion he said, 'Write such and such', but I wrote 'Write' only, and he said, 'Write whatever you like.'" So when this scribe exposed Muhammad, he wrote in the Qur'an, "And who does greater evil than he who forges against God a lie, or says, 'To me it has been revealed', when naught has been revealed to him. "'To me it has been revealed', when naught has been revealed to him" refers to `Abdallah Ibn Sa`d Ibn Abi Sarh, who used to write for God's messenger. The verse (23:12) that says, "We created man of an extraction of clay" was revealed, and when Muhammad reached the part that says, "... thereafter We produced him as another creature (23:14), `Abdallah said, "So blessed be God the fairest of creators!" in amazement at the details of man's creation. The prophet said, "Write it down; for thus it has been revealed." `Abdallah doubted and said, "If Muhammad is truthful then I receive the revelation as much as he does, and if he is a liar, what I said is a good as what he said." The Story During Muhammad's 23 years of prophetic ministry, Muhammad claimed to receive revelations from God, given to him by an angel. Muhammad used many men, functioning as scribes, to write down these assumed revelations. Different scribes wrote down different revelations. `Abdullah Sarh was one of Muhammad's scribes. Evidently, Sarh had some literary skills, sometimes suggesting improvements to Muhammad in the wording of the recited Qur'an. Muhammad often agreed with Sarh's improvements, and allowed the changes to be made. Sarh eventually left Islam because he knew that no mere scribe should be allowed to change something that was proclaimed to be the word of God. The changes were frequent enough that it caused Sarh to realize that something was amiss. Upon leaving Islam, Sarh became a threat to the credibility of the Qur'an. It would no longer be believed to be the word of God if a man had been allowed to edit and change it. Sarh's threat to the credibility of the Qur'an was also a threat to Muhammad's credibility. No real prophet would allow the word of God to be changed. Sarh left Islam and lived in Mecca. Some time later, Muhammad and his army moved on Mecca and took it without a fight. On that day, Muhammad ordered the murder of 10 people living in Mecca. Muhammad said "God forbid killing in Mecca, except for this one day." Sarh was one of the people Muhammad ordered to be murdered. His crime? He had left Islam, and he constituted a threat to the credibility of the Qur'an and the prophethood of Muhammad. No wonder then that Muhammad wanted him dead. The Plan to kill the Scribe Ibn Sa`d corroborates Ibn Ishaq and says on page 174: A person of al-Ansar had taken a vow to kill Ibn Abi Sarh [the already mentioned Abdallah] if he saw him. `Uthman whose foster brother he (Ibn Abi Sarh) was, came and interceded for him with the prophet. The Ansari was waiting for the signal of the prophet to kill him. `Uthman interceded and he [Muhammad] let him go. The the apostle of Allah said to the Ansari, "Why did you not fulfil your vow?" He said, "O apostle of Allah! I had my hand on the hilt of the sword waiting for your signal to kill him." The prophet said signalling would have been a breach of faith. "It does not behave the prophet to make signal." The Scribe was eventually killed Muhammad ordered the execution of 10 people when he took Mecca. Here is the list of names found in Ibn Sa`d "Tabaqat", Vol 2, page 168. The apostle of Allah entered through Adhakhir, [into Mecca], and prohibited fighting. He ordered six men and four women to be killed, they were (1) Ikrimah Ibn Abi Jahl, (2) Habbar Ibn al-Aswad, (3) Abd Allah Ibn Sa`d Ibn Abi Sarh, (4) Miqyas Ibn Sababah al-Laythi, (5) al-Huwayrith Ibn Nuqaydh, (6) Abd Abbah Ibn Hilal Ibn Khatal al-Adrami, (7) Hind Bint Utbah, (  Sarah, the mawlat (enfranchised girl) of Amr Ibn Hashim, (9) Fartana and (10) Qaribah.DISCUSSION Above presented is the details and the context behind the order to murder `Abdullah ibn Sarh. He was a threat to the credibility of the Qur'an. He was a Muslim, worked with Muhammad in writing down the Qur'an, and, from time to time he suggested some minor changes, or made deliberate omissions or additions. `Abdullah eventually realized that if this Qur'an were truly from God, no changes would be made at his suggestion. Sarh realized Islam and the Qur'an were false and went back to Mecca. After Muhammad took Mecca, and issued the order to kill him, he hid out with `Uthman who was one of Muhammad's closest companions. Later Sarh pled for amnesty. Muhammad wanted one of his men to kill him on the spot, but they didn't know if they should, because they couldn't read Muhammad's mind. So, finally, Muhammad gave him amnesty. We see here that Muhammad really wanted Sarh dead. But Muhammad handled this in a very irrational way. Muhammad issues an edict to have a man executed, but fails to have it carried out because he doesn't want to make a signal with his hand, or wink with his eye  Why didn't Muhammad kill him himself? If this man had committed such a crime as to cost him his life, why didn't Muhammad see that his death sentence be carried out? What kind of law is that? "You committed a major crime, punishable by death, but I'm going to let you live because I am too proud to signal with my hand."Note here that the Qur'an itself, revealed in regard to Sarh in 6:93, calls Sarh extremely wicked: Quran 6:93] "Who can be more wicked than one who inventeth a lie against Allah, or saith, "I have received inspiration," when he hath received none, or (again) who saith, "I can reveal the like of what Allah hath revealed"? If thou couldst but see how the wicked (do fare) in the flood of confusion at death! - the angels stretch forth their hands, (saying),"Yield up your souls: this day shall ye receive your reward,- a penalty of shame, for that ye used to tell lies against Allah, and scornfully to reject of His signs!" This shows that Muhammad gave orders willy-nilly. This man committed no major crime, he just exposed Muhammad and the Qur'an. Muhammad just wanted this man killed for personal reasons. People lived or died based on Muhammad's frame of mind, not based on law and justice. |
| Re: How The Quran Was Corrupted by annunaki2(m): 8:06am On May 01, 2016 |
Very elucidating article, visitor700, demmzy15 you will find this very educative.  1 Like |
| Re: How The Quran Was Corrupted by truthmans2012(op): 11:45am On May 01, 2016 |
annunaki2:In the face of the truth, these islamic guys are too ashamed to defend islam again. The above article clearly shows quran is the handiwork of Muhammand as he could agree to changes done to it by Abduallah. |
| Re: How The Quran Was Corrupted by annunaki2(m): 12:08pm On May 01, 2016 |
truthmans2012:And they claim allahh protects their quoran yet he couldn't protect part of the original manuscript from being eaten by a goat. That is apart from the fact that the quoran as we know it was not compiled until after mohamed died and it was abubakar that decided what made it into the quoran and what did not. Abubakar also ordered that various other versions of the quoran in circulation at that time be burnt meaning the quoran as we have it today is mostly what abubaker decided. |
| Re: How The Quran Was Corrupted by truthmans2012(op): 12:30pm On May 01, 2016 |
annunaki2:Therefore islam is the religion based on Abubakar's discretion. Why did they have to burn other copies if not to hide something? Quran is the most corrupt book in the world. Allah himself corrupted it by changing his own revelations at will, Abdullah wrote many verses differently from the original revelations, rats ate up some verses making today's quran incomplete and the worst: Abubakar used his own discretion when he couldn't hear from allahh. So many things are wrong with the quran. |
| Re: How The Quran Was Corrupted by annunaki2(m): 2:26pm On May 01, 2016 |
truthmans2012:What do you expect off a book 'authored' by an entity that confessed to being the best of deceivers?  the whole islamic religion is one big fraud. |
| Re: How The Quran Was Corrupted by truthmans2012(op): 7:31pm On May 01, 2016 |
annunaki2:Yes, it is a big satanic fraud. |
| Re: How The Quran Was Corrupted by lanimus: 9:47pm On May 01, 2016 |
It would be a herculean task trying to defend the topic of this post from the varied perspectives of all who have commented on here. However for those who really seek enlightenment about the authenticity and the credibility of the Quran and the Bible, please find below the download link for fact filled literary works to help out those who are not too stoned and fixed in their views. If after reading these books your views are so unchanged. Then you're either right on your opinion, or you just can't be helped. https://archive.org/details/Al-quran-TheMiracleOfMiraclesDeedat.pdf https://archive.org/details/IsTheBibleGodsWorddeedat.pdf 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: How The Quran Was Corrupted by truthmans2012(op): 10:07pm On May 01, 2016 |
lanimus:Contrary to what you said, it is not an herculean but an impossible task to defend the OP. Nothing in the link you gave refute the OP. I think you just wanted to say something. In fact, there is nothing to be refuted as the truth of the thread is so evident. 1 Like |
| Re: How The Quran Was Corrupted by lanimus: 11:13pm On May 01, 2016 |
The links I gave defends everything the op has posted. He had told a story without giving the exact literary material from which he has sourced them (except of course the Quranic verses he quoted) let him tell us the material from which he has sourced his information so that we can read it ourselves. Otherwise it's just a story. There are stories and then there are literary facts. |
| Re: How The Quran Was Corrupted by truthmans2012(op): 7:09am On May 02, 2016 |
lanimus:Are the quranic references not enough ? Besides, couldn't you find the hadiths that tell the story inside the thread ? |
| Re: How The Quran Was Corrupted by truthmans2012(op): 8:05am On May 02, 2016*. Modified: 8:27am On May 02, 2016 |
Further corruption of the Quran Missing Verse on the State of Martyrs Narrated Anas bin Malik: (The tribes of) Ril, Dhakwan, 'Usaiya and Bani Lihyan asked Allah's Apostle to provide them with some men to support them against their enemy. He therefore provided them with seventy men from the Ansar whom we used to call Al-Qurra' in their lifetime. They used to collect wood by daytime and pray at night. When they were at the well of Ma'una, the infidels killed them by betraying them. When this news reached the Prophet, he said Al-Qunut for one month In the morning prayer, invoking evil upon some of the 'Arab tribes, upon Ril, Dhakwan, 'Usaiya and Bani Libyan. We used to read a verse of the Qur'an revealed in their connection, but later the verse was cancelled. It was: "convey to our people on our behalf the information that we have met our Lord, and He is pleased with us, and has made us pleased." (Anas bin Malik added Allah's Prophet said Qunut for one month in the morning prayer, invoking evil upon some of the 'Arab tribes (namely), Ril, Dhakwan, Usaiya, and Bani Libyan. (Anas added Those seventy Ansari men were killed at the well of Mauna. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 416)A verse was deliberately cancel. Missing Verse On Stoning Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: 'Umar said, "I am afraid that after a long time has passed, people may say, "We do not find the Verses of the Rajam (stoning to death) in the Holy Book," and consequently they may go astray by leaving an obligation that Allah has revealed. Lo! I confirm that the penalty of Rajam be inflicted on him who commits illegal sexual intercourse, if he is already married and the crime is proved by witnesses or pregnancy or confession." Sufyan added, "I have memorized this narration in this way." 'Umar added, "Surely Allah's Apostle carried out the penalty of Rajam, and so did we after him." (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 82, Number 816) This verse is missing in the quran today. Missing Verse On Suckling Narrated Aisha: It had been revealed in the Qur'an that ten clear sucklings make the marriage unlawful, then it was abrogated (and substituted) by five sucklings and Allah's Apostle (peace_be_upon_him) died and it was before that time (found) in the Qur'an (and recited by the Muslims). (Sahih Muslim, Book 8, Number 3421) That verse which was once found in the quran is no more there. Missing Part On "Valley of Riches" Anas b. Malik reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: If there were two valleys of gold for the son of Adam, he would long for another one, and his mouth will not be filled but with dust, and Allah returns to him who repents. (Sahih Muslim, Number 2284) That verse is not in today's quran. The following hadith from Sahih Muslim mentions a verse that is no longer found in the Quran: Anas b. Malik reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) invoked curse in the morning (prayer) for thirty days upon those who killed the Companions (of the Holy Prophet) at Bi'r Ma'una. He cursed (the tribes) of Ri'l, Dhakwan, Lihyan, and Usayya, who had disobeyed Allah and His Messenger (may peace be upon him). Anas said: Allah the Exalted and Great revealed (a verse) regarding those who were killed at Bi'r Ma'una, and we recited it, till it was abrogated later on (and the verse was like this): ‘Convey to it [sic] our people the tidings that we have met our Lord, and He was pleased with us and we were pleased with Him’. (Book 004, Number 1433) |
| Re: How The Quran Was Corrupted by truthmans2012(op): 4:53pm On May 02, 2016 |
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| Re: How The Quran Was Corrupted by truthman2012(m): 9:54pm On May 03, 2016 |
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| Re: How The Quran Was Corrupted by Visitor700: 4:43pm On May 05, 2016*. Modified: 1:20am On Jun 12, 2019 |
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| Re: How The Quran Was Corrupted by truthman2012(m): 7:53pm On May 05, 2016*. Modified: 8:14pm On May 05, 2016 |
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| Re: How The Quran Was Corrupted by truthman2012(m): 8:03pm On May 05, 2016 |
Visitor700 Abdullah ibn Sarh al-Amiri embraced islam after the prophet and his followers had migrated to madina so he wasn't among the scribes who wrote down the prophet's dictates in makkah.Prove with authentic source and not the formulation of any islamic apologist. This verse was revealed in reference to Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab not Abdullah Ibn Sa'd Ibn Abi Sarh.Prove with authentic source. The above is a fabrication. Abdullah ibn Sarh wasn't the scribe who recorded those verses because all the verses in chapter 23 were revealed in makkah. Abdullah ibn Sarh assumed the role of a scribe after he met with the prophet who was then in madina.Prove as previously required. [ size=15]"He converted to Islam before the conquest of Mecca and immigrated to the Prophet (Peace be upon him) [i.e. in Medina]. [b]He used to record the revelation for the Prophet (Peace be upon him) before he apostatized and went back to Mecca..."[/size][/b]He used to record the revelation for the prophet yet you said he was not a scribe contradicting yourself. An-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said: [size=15]"Then on that day ‘Abdullah ibn Sa‘d ibn Abi Sarh became Muslim, and he became a good Muslim; after that he did not do anything to be criticised for. He was one of the wise and noble men of Quraysh."[/size]This is a fabrication. I did clearly point out in the OP how he was killed with proof. He wasn't killed, he died while observing his prayer.Prove. [ b]Further corruption of the Quran[/b]Those hadiths are authentic sources proving that the Qur'an was actually corrupted. I discovered you skipped saying anything on it. |
| Re: How The Quran Was Corrupted by smogup: 8:39pm On May 05, 2016 |
Nice revelations 1 Like |
| Re: How The Quran Was Corrupted by Visitor700: 12:42am On May 06, 2016*. Modified: 2:04am On Jun 12, 2019 |
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| Re: How The Quran Was Corrupted by truthman2012(m): 7:08am On May 06, 2016 |
Visitor700 Further corruption of the Quran Missing Verse on the State of Martyrs Narrated Anas bin Malik: (The tribes of) Ril, Dhakwan, 'Usaiya and Bani Lihyan asked Allah's Apostle to provide them with some men to support them against their enemy. He therefore provided them with seventy men from the Ansar whom we used to call Al-Qurra' in their lifetime. They used to collect wood by daytime and pray at night. When they were at the well of Ma'una, the infidels killed them by betraying them. When this news reached the Prophet, he said Al-Qunut for one month In the morning prayer, invoking evil upon some of the 'Arab tribes, upon Ril, Dhakwan, 'Usaiya and Bani Libyan. We used to read a verse of the Qur'an revealed in their connection, but later the verse was cancelled. It was: "convey to our people on our behalf the information that we have met our Lord, and He is pleased with us, and has made us pleased." (Anas bin Malik added Allah's Prophet said Qunut for one month in the morning prayer, invoking evil upon some of the 'Arab tribes (namely), Ril, Dhakwan, Usaiya, and Bani Libyan. (Anas added Those seventy Ansari men were killed at the well of Mauna. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 416)A verse was deliberately cancel. Missing Verse On Stoning Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: 'Umar said, "I am afraid that after a long time has passed, people may say, "We do not find the Verses of the Rajam (stoning to death) in the Holy Book," and consequently they may go astray by leaving an obligation that Allah has revealed. Lo! I confirm that the penalty of Rajam be inflicted on him who commits illegal sexual intercourse, if he is already married and the crime is proved by witnesses or pregnancy or confession." Sufyan added, "I have memorized this narration in this way." 'Umar added, "Surely Allah's Apostle carried out the penalty of Rajam, and so did we after him." (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 82, Number 816) This verse is missing in the quran today. Missing Verse On Suckling Narrated Aisha: It had been revealed in the Qur'an that ten clear sucklings make the marriage unlawful, then it was abrogated (and substituted) by five sucklings and Allah's Apostle (peace_be_upon_him) died and it was before that time (found) in the Qur'an (and recited by the Muslims). (Sahih Muslim, Book 8, Number 3421) That verse which was once found in the quran is no more there. Missing Part On "Valley of Riches" Anas b. Malik reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: If there were two valleys of gold for the son of Adam, he would long for another one, and his mouth will not be filled but with dust, and Allah returns to him who repents. (Sahih Muslim, Number 2284) That verse is not in today's quran. Another Missing Verse The following hadith from Sahih Muslim mentions a verse that is no longer found in the Quran: Anas b. Malik reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) invoked curse in the morning (prayer) for thirty days upon those who killed the Companions (of the Holy Prophet) at Bi'r Ma'una. He cursed (the tribes) of Ri'l, Dhakwan, Lihyan, and Usayya, who had disobeyed Allah and His Messenger (may peace be upon him). Anas said: Allah the Exalted and Great revealed (a verse) regarding those who were killed at Bi'r Ma'una, and we recited it, till it was abrogated later on (and the verse was like this): ‘Convey to it [sic] our people the tidings that we have met our Lord, and He was pleased with us and we were pleased with Him’. (Book 004, Number 1433)And now that you have read these ? With these there is no way you can refute the quran not being corrupted or claim it is perfect. |
| Re: How The Quran Was Corrupted by truthmans2012(op): 2:12pm On May 31, 2016 |
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