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chacoonder:
@Op, make your intentions known..bloody hypocrite!!!

annunaki2:
On the contrary I believe the OP is very objective, analytical and factual.

lepasharon:
Is Christianity a religion of peace?

lepasharon:
Is Christianity a religion of peace?

lepasharon:
Is Christianity a religion of peace?

kuffyyy:
No. But just like the majority of Muslims, Christians choose to ignore the part of the Bible that promotes cruelty and just like the Muslim purists killing and torturing for Islam, Christianity has also passed through that phase.

jcross19:
christianity was never and is never a religion of war!!! Get that fact. The bible you are talking about contain a very severe genocides in which some generations perpetrated the evil in the name of God and you can only find such evil act in the book of tora and some historical part of bible in which christianity have never be in picture. The christianity experience such cruelty under the power of roman empire to prosecuted and killed non catholic not even un believers but non catholic but trust me no where in the bible that jesus asked his followers to killed those who don't believed in him. We all know through the history how the disciples were killed without any reprisal from them.

ariesbull:
[s]The same question can easily be turned around. If Islam is a religion of peace, then why is it the only one that consistently produces religiously-motivated terrorist attacks each and every day of the year? Why are tens of thousands of people willing and able to cut off an innocent person’s head or fly a plane full of passengers into an office building while screaming praises to Allah? Where’s the outrage among other Muslims when this happens… and why do they get more worked up over cartoons and hijab slights?

Rather than trying to answer a question with a question, let's just say that the reason why most Muslims don't kill is that, regardless of what Islam may or may not teach, it's wrong to kill over religion. Most people know deep down that if God wanted people dead for not believing in him, then he's perfectly capable of doing the job himself.

Here's a similar question with identical logic to the "If the Quran taught violence then all Muslims would be violent" argument:

"If the Quran taught that a thief's hand should be cut off, then all Muslims would cut off hands."

We can all agree that very few Muslims cut off hands and that a majority (perhaps) believe it is wrong to do so. If the logic were sound, then this would be proof that the Quran does not say to cut off hands.

But the Quran does say this... quite clearly:

Cut off the hand of the thief, male or female, as a recompense for that which they committed, a punishment by way of example from Allah. 5:38

This is also the example set by Muhammad according to the Hadith (Bukhari 81:792). Yet, the vast majority of Muslims do not do this.

What this means is that the proof of what Islam teaches or what the Quran says is not in whether the majority of Muslims choose to do it.

As individuals, Muslims make their own choices about which parts of their religion they practice and which parts they would rather dismiss via the guise of "context".

Adherents may think or say whatever they want to about Islam, it doesn't change what Islam says about itself. As a documented ideology, Islam exists independently of anyone's opinion. As such, it may be studied objectively, apart from how anyone practices or chooses to interpret it.

The Quran plainly teaches that it is not only proper to kill in the name of Allah in certain circumstances, but that it is required. Muslims who don't believe in killing over religion may believe this out of ignorance of their religion or because they are more loyal to a moral law that is independent of the true example set by Muhammad. Those who put Islam first or know Islam best think and act differently.

In fact, few Muslims have ever read the Quran to any extent, much less pursued an honest investigation of the actual words and deeds of Muhammad (which were more in line with hedonism, deception, power and violence than moral restraint). The harsh rules that Muslim countries impose on free speech to protect Islam from critique also prevent it from being fully understood. In the West, many Muslims, devout or otherwise, simply prefer to believe that Islam is aligned with the Judeo-Christian principles of peace and tolerance, even if it requires filtering evidence to the contrary.

But, while most Muslims are peaceful in spite of Islam, others are dangerous because of it. Purists who take Islam to heart are far more likely to become terrorists than humanitarians. Those most prone to abandoning themselves to Muhammad's message without a moral filter are always the more dangerous and supremacist-minded. They may be called ‘extremists’ or ‘fundamentalists,’ but, at the end of the day, they are dedicated to the Quran and the path of Jihad as mandated by Muhammad.[/s]

kuffyyy:
Are you by chance saying that only some parts of the Bible should be followed by Christians? Christianity is not only new testament, if it was the old testament would not be a part of the Bible, so don't act like it should be ignored. After all God doesn't change and neither does his word (according to your beliefs).
See what Christians have been doing for their religion : holy war in Jerusalem, torture and killing of 'heretics' etc because after all the old testament does say you should kill people that don't share the Christian belief (deutronomy 13 and 17.)
The fact is parts of the Bible just like the Koran promote violence and intolerance and just like the majority of Muslims, Christians choose to ignore them.

kuffyyy:
Are you by chance saying that only some parts of the Bible should be followed by Christians? Christianity is not only new testament, if it was the old testament would not be a part of the Bible, so don't act like it should be ignored. After all God doesn't change and neither does his word (according to your beliefs).
See what Christians have been doing for their religion : holy war in Jerusalem, torture and killing of 'heretics' etc because after all the old testament does say you should kill people that don't share the Christian belief (deutronomy 13 and 17.)
The fact is parts of the Bible just like the Koran promote violence and intolerance and just like the majority of Muslims, Christians choose to ignore them.

Amberon:
Christian = Christlike

Christianity started when Christ Jesus came on board. What was practiced before wasn't Christianity. Jesus Christ never asked anyone to kill. Instead he and all his disciples laid down their lives for the gospel.

The people who killed Jesus did so thinking they were serving God but were they Christians? No! because they weren't following Christ. Only those who follow Christ are Christians. These same Romans and Pharisees perpetuated harvoc for several decades and centuries after the death of Christ and they did so because they were not Christians.

tartar9:
following xrist or yahweh of the old testament? .
since you claim he's God,it only means they are one and the same persons.

Amberon:
Christian = Christlike

Christianity started when Christ Jesus came on board. What was practiced before wasn't Christianity. Jesus Christ never asked anyone to kill. Instead he and all his disciples laid down their lives for the gospel.

The people who killed Jesus did so thinking they were serving God but were they Christians? No! because they weren't following Christ. Only those who follow Christ are Christians. These same Romans and Pharisees perpetuated harvoc for several decades and centuries after the death of Christ and they did so because they were not Christians.

Amberon:
Pls be intellectual.

The pharisees who killed Jesus, were they Christians? Obviously not!!

These same people wrecked havoc, killed and slaughtered innocent Christians and all along they thought they were serving God. We are followers of Christ and Christ Jesus never asked us to kill anybody. He even laid down his life for us, likewise the early apostles. Jesus never asked us to kill anybody. Christianity isn't a violent religion and this is evident in almost every christian nation worldwide.

The most violent attacks that have happened in Paris and brusells were done by Muslims. Go check out the dangerous countries in the world to live in. 9 out of 10 are fully Islamic countries where bombings happen everyday. And these people follow in the footsteps of Mohammed who killed, beheaded, maimed innocent people all in the name of Allah. Videos are all over YouTube of Muslims killing others in the name of Islam.

Bye!

ariesbull:
One thing I notice about Muslim is this

They are not open to criticism
They are quick to compare the Bible ...knowing that Koran plagiarised the bible ...so why take us 2000 yrs ago
Can we look at Islam and Christianity in this contemporary times
Christianity has passed through modifications
Has Islam passed through modifications
How many religion of the world has liked people these last century ..let's do a comparative analysis of
Islam violence rate
Judeo-Christian violence rate
Buddhists violence rate
Atheist violence rate

If we can do this then we have to come into conclusion that these last 50 yrs Islam is an anathema

jcross19:
christianity was never and is never a religion of war!!! Get that fact. The bible you are talking about contain a very severe genocides in which some generations perpetrated the evil in the name of God and you can only find such evil act in the book of tora and some historical part of bible in which christianity have never be in picture. The christianity experience such cruelty under the power of roman empire to prosecuted and killed non catholic not even un believers but non catholic but trust me no where in the bible that jesus asked his followers to killed those who don't believed in him. We all know through the history how the disciples were killed without any reprisal from them.

Demmzy15:
Don't even play that game, the Protestants emerged from Catholics. So when the Catholics were killing, it included the Protestants because they never protested nor spoke against it. When the Protestants eventually emerged, they fought a war for 31years killing 8million! Know your history, if you don't, I won't mind to lecture you.

jcross19:
can you please lecture with your lies? Am asking you did jesus ask any christian to kill any unbeliever that's my question! Those who killed or fought they did that out of greed.

Yes na! In the old testament before he came down and killed himself!

Demmzy15:
Yes na! In the old testament before he came down and killed himself!

SUPERPACK:
interesting topic.
Violence has no religion, both christianity and islam have been responsible for violence in the past, bt one thing i knw for sure it is nt left for man to judge bt God, He only knws the heart of man,
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