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| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by tivta(m): 9:27pm On May 12, 2016 |
I for see a revolution coming or anarchy, telling someone who survives on N18000 to be patient? Corruption will definitely increase, just wait and see... |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by muyiwadavid(m): 9:29pm On May 12, 2016 |
Isaacmacdon:looking 4wards to see u under that government that will be rule by Jesus Christ.it will indeed be a perfect n peaceful government |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by Smooyis(m): 9:30pm On May 12, 2016 |
Standing5:This will only happen if prepaid meters are made available to every home. |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by Burger01(m): 9:32pm On May 12, 2016 |
GAZZUZZ:1.3liter ke.. You? Yimu ![]() |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by Louislewis: 9:32pm On May 12, 2016 |
[size=18pt]Thank you Mr writer, the APC Secretary and Information minister. Can I ask you few questions that demand your answer. 1. All these advantages as you explain, were they disadvantages to the masses when GEJ was the president of this country? 2. Were all these advantages not reasonable when APC members, as an opposition then, said there was nothing like subsidy? 3. Were all these advantages not reasonable when APC members, as an opposition then, said PMS(petrol) supposed to be sold at 50 naira per litre? 4. Why are they reasonable now that the then opposition party has come to power, to be used as justification to believe there is what is called, subsidy? The PMS that supposed to be sold at 50 naira per litre as they believe is now going to be sold at 145 naira? APC! APC!!APC!!![/size] |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by Nikapetrelli(f): 9:34pm On May 12, 2016 |
joseph1832:As in my brother,Na dat 1 be d koko |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by Moderation: 9:34pm On May 12, 2016 |
1. So subsidy is no longer a scam. 2. Is this part of Buhari's campaign promises? 3. Mr writer, who says that the money save will not be used by your man to travel to more fifty countries. 4. You said Government will now build more refineries while they cannot maintain the few they have now. 5. You are not also aware that the competition will put pressure to the demand for foreign currency. 6. Key product like this which has spill over effect to every basic needs of Man should be managed and controlled by Government. 7. How many littres of fuel can Buhari's minimum wage buy. Stop deceiving us. |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by biz9ja(m): 9:34pm On May 12, 2016 |
Nigerians don't like to suffer for their country jare, all we want is a wonderland that shows up like magic and the only place that it happens is in dreams and hollywood movies. |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by BrainnewsNg(f): 9:36pm On May 12, 2016 |
GAZZUZZ:Noted |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by MNDY(m): 9:36pm On May 12, 2016 |
Pidggin:Those countries provided the basic amenities (and advanced) by judiciously using the subsidy removal's monies after passing through a very painful sacrifice stage when the subsidy was removed initially - On the certainty of the judicious use (and not heinous loot) of the fuel subsidy monies in Nigeria's case, Buhari's zero-tolerance for corruption would ensure the judicious use of the monies! - The need for increased minimum wage to match conditions cannot be overemphasized! |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by joseph1832(m): 9:36pm On May 12, 2016 |
Nikapetrelli:This is the one thing these our economic analysts fail to see, with all their fancy economic policy that doesn't understand the nigerian situation. |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by pryncexcel: 9:38pm On May 12, 2016 |
@toks 2008,nice one! Please let me use this opportunity to add to what you have just writing out there.the removal of subsidy at this point in time is one of the best thing the president has done. It will give room for foreign investors to come and build more refines and equally create job opportunities for this great country. using GSM as a case study, when it was newly initiated, line was sold for 30k-28k bet, with the emerging of other network like etisalat, glo, airtel mtn etc today line are now sold for one hundred naira.please let applaud Mr president for once he has shown that he truly wants the betterment of this great country. by not the valuing the naira....learn to pray for the direction of this great country... |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by jessykings(f): 9:44pm On May 12, 2016 |
Time can really change things o......smbh. In all,we hope and pray for the best
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| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by joseph1832(m): 9:48pm On May 12, 2016 |
MNDY:You shouldn't use advance countries as a basis for comparison here. You forget that these countries have shown an unending penchant for knowing what they're doing, in terms of implementing policies meant for improving the lives of their citizens. On the certainty of the judicious use (and not heinous loot) of the fuel subsidy monies in Nigeria's case, Buhari's zero-tolerance for corruption would ensure the judicious use of the monies!What results have PMB's sub zero tolerance for corruption yielded, its almost a year now and nothing we've sEen so far as resulted in the imprisonment of those who looted and squandered our common wealth. You should know that PMB is just one man, in the midst of many men who live, wine and dine in corruption. The need for increased minimum wage to match conditions cannot be overemphasized!True that! But still, you expect the governors who can't pay 18k minimum wage to pay this recent increment (if there is). Our say this fuel subsidy removal came at the wrongest of time. It the government is proving day by day that they don't know what they're doing, neither do they know and understand the suffering of the masses. |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by joseph1832(m): 9:50pm On May 12, 2016 |
pryncexcel:In the mean time, what will happen to that man who has to pay twice the amount he pays to work everyday? |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by Nobody: 9:55pm On May 12, 2016 |
@OP... I thank you for your candidly placed write-up. It is like the penalty expertly placed by Lionel Messi with the keeper rooted to the ground like a hapless grass-cutter. but wait oooh... all you have said is FACT but let us run by your FACTS one by one Advantage 1. It reduces Corruption in the Downstream Sector On the surface it is a sleek and sound statement but who controls the downstream sector? Kachikwu Ibe continues to tell Nigerians what we already know - Emeka Offor crippled Nigeria's capacity to refine crude so much that since early 90s we are yet to meet the OPEC Minimum crude export allocation http://www.tradingeconomics.com/nigeria/crude-oil-production It is within this ambit that Petroleum Marketers continue to rip-off both the FG and the Consumers.. guess what. the FG has succeeded in removing a huge USD$ wastage from the hands of the suppliers.. Kudos. but who will bear the brunt of this loss - you guessed it. Consumers like your and I. The Marketers do not operate in the Up or Mid-stream which has suffered the brunt of low crude prices.. they will source Forex from whatever source and we will pay way above N145 to get petrol from sources other than NNPC who cannot fulfill consumption needs of up to 5% of Nigerians. we are told refining the product is far more costly than importing it.. so will the cost savings from subsidy removal be used by NNPC to import the product? NO.. FG will build refineries to make petrol that is more costlier than importing it. I don't see the sense in this approach Advantage 2. Provision of Basic Amenities You seem not to have reviewed the budget and see where the focus and priorities lie. I have left an infographic here for your information (please let the masses know in your usual candour) https://yourbudgit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Number-12-768x543.jpg Advantage 3. Reduction of Government Debt There is no reduction in FG debt.. I am not sure how you came about that.. FG debt profile continues to rise. locally and Internationally (debt obligations in form of FG and State Bonds, . The Subsidy Removal is not money that has been allocated then removed. It has not even been spent to the point of deficit. This link is for your kind information http://www.tradingeconomics.com/nigeria/external-debt http://cdn.tradingeconomics.com/charts/nigeria-external-debt@2x.png?s=nigeriaextdeb&v=201604041747n Advantage 4: Increase in Foreign Reserves How do you sell petrol in Naira and increase foreign reserves in USD$.. if I recall Ghana is still using Cedis and Cotonu Francs or Kwachas or sumthn. You Increase FX Reserves by Trading internationally and our sweet crude which accounted for nearly 98% of our FX Reserves has all but disappeared. Think about that first. Advantage 5: Establishment of more refineries When International Oil Multi-nationals and Oil Giants were selling off their downstream assets.. what did you think they had in mind or saw ahead. (They saw today).. Please refer to demerits of Advantage 1 I lost track but Competition and Transparency will not happen as a result of Subsidy Removal - It happened yonks ago during OBJ's regime.. it was called DEREGULATION which birthed the Bureau of Public Enterprises. It was not Transparent then.. it is not transparent now. COMPETITION YES.. but it took us 15+ years for SIM Card to drop from N30,000 to N1,000 are we to wait for BUHARI/APC for another 15+ years to start reaping the benefits of Competition and Transparency? For your kind information readers The downstream sector refers primary stakeholders controlling the refining of petroleum crude oil and the processing and purifying of raw natural gas, as well as the marketing and distribution of products derived from crude oil and natural gas. |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by rexzqcom(m): 10:01pm On May 12, 2016 |
pryncexcel:GSM ushered in at the time naira exchange rates wasn't officially artificially fixed (pegged). But now nnpc will have competitive advantages by using official fixed rates to source exchange and sell for N97.00/liter. While others will source exchange from higher parallel market rates, and sell for up to N145.00/liter. Eventually other importers will expliot the discrepancy loopholes. One such, is others buying from nnpc@N97 for resales @N145.00 or higher, rather than importing anything. Eventually leading to scarcity and higher prices. This same uneven playing field will discourage foreign direct investment. Remedy is to unpeg naira for even playing field, as would have obtained in Jonathan's era subsidy removal of market determined naira exchange rates. |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by Pidggin(f): 10:01pm On May 12, 2016 |
MNDY:Please get your facts right, most oil producing countries still subsidize fuel for their citizens. Are you aware that fuel is presently 23 cents/litre in Lybia? Yet before the war, they had almost 100% basic amenities. What year was fuel subsidy removed in Lybia? |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by jtjohn(m): 10:08pm On May 12, 2016 |
Built2last:Good write up |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by Almajiri1: 10:09pm On May 12, 2016 |
CaptainBomb:Imagine if GEJ had rounded up all these criminal politicians in APC who are today claiming saints? I detest hypocrisy and every form of injustices.GEJ is still to blame for arming APC with neauclar warheads to insult every single Nigerian and give reasons why all their campaign promises can't be achieved. |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by Adek15(m): 10:09pm On May 12, 2016 |
1. IT REDUCES CORRUPTION IN THE DOWN STREAM SECTOR:[/b] According to the statement made by the former finance minister and coordinator of subsidy removal, Dr. Ngozi Okonjo Iweala. “ The removal of oil subsidy will drastically reduce corruption in the down stream sector.” Moreso, deregulation will also help to end the waivers enjoyed by powerful “cabals” at the expense of the Nigerian people... I do not understand this part. How is the fuel subsidy causing corruption? Who are the cabals and why can't government probe them? Pls OP and/or anybody that understands this should explain please. I sky wanna know |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by hayordele1: 10:10pm On May 12, 2016 |
Toks2008:You know this and you can't state it during Jonathan regime. |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by Engrkingsley(m): 10:10pm On May 12, 2016 |
Standing5:time to ditch d 40w energy saving bulb and use 5watt LED bulbs.. |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by hillz0103(m): 10:16pm On May 12, 2016 |
Isaacmacdon:This is a löng nd uninspired Comment of the day. |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by Nikapetrelli(f): 10:17pm On May 12, 2016 |
joseph1832:Datz it sometimes d policies r not in line with d realities at hand.All d same wetin Man pikin one do. NO how,No how As life dey,Hope dey 1 corner |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by Kennydoc(m): 10:22pm On May 12, 2016 |
Toks2008:You talked about using the savings from the subsidy to provide basic amenities an so forth. How are you sure the savings will be used judiciously? This government increased the budget by almost 2 trillion naira relative to last year in thus economic recession, yet only less than 1 trillion naira was added to capital projects. If a government could budget 500 billion naira on social welfare at a time when as much money as possible should have been channelled to infrastructure, agriculture, power etc, do you really trust such a government to maximise the subsidy savings? |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by Nobody: 10:28pm On May 12, 2016 |
This writer is exclusively stupid And a fantastic slowpoke- |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by LaExpert: 10:36pm On May 12, 2016 |
Toks2008:It might interest you to know that in Nigeria, also an oil producing nation, pump price has increased by over 24000% (not adjusting for inflation) within the last 25years. Until the government become honest and stop hypocrisy and propaganda, the country is bound to remain stagnant in the next 30years. Some people are always playing politics with Nigeria's economy...and zombies are dancing to the tune. While I support the fuel subsidy removal, I also contend that it isn't the best option available to the government in the state of the economy. How about devising means to curb or eliminate the corruption around the subsidy payments? How about fixing existing refineries for production with proceeds of recovered loots et al? Subsidy removal makes the poor suffer more, we both know the poverty and unemployment rate in the country. You spoke of subsidy savings, it may interest you to know that subsidy removal savings is un-appropriated for in the just signed appropriation bill neither was it recognised as a source of income...it is not news that such monies end up in some people's pockets while the poor keep suffering. |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by topsam1(m): 10:39pm On May 12, 2016 |
OP...thanks for the write up, though we criticized the past administration for fuel subsidy removal because nigerians felt uncomfortable with the policy not because of the removal but because we were worried how funds being saved from the removal will be utilized. Yes, we were justified to protest that particular year few months after, when the funds raised from the subsidy removal were embezzled by few people......according to the OP, lets give the government a chance to prove us wrong....one nigeria |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by no1madman(m): 10:40pm On May 12, 2016 |
Pidggin:u know wetin dey. . . dumb Buhari! D idiot supposed to ensure 100% clarity about critical goals and how every team member contribute to that objective. . . . |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by Isaacmacdon(m): 10:48pm On May 12, 2016 |
hillz0103:ur thoughts tho! |
| Re: Subsidy Removal,the Reality And The Advantages. by Isaacmacdon(m): 10:49pm On May 12, 2016 |
muyiwadavid:Exactly! U get my drift! |
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