GBR1:
olabode89 you get mind enter this argument sha.

I just dey my lane own ni. If you observed my previous post here, you'd noticed i was careful not to state who's right or wrong.

If they wanna carry on, no wahala.

Lol.... na the matter full this thread nau.... airmark's position that Javi Martinez will not be used as a centre back when other natural/primary centre backs are available is correct because Martinez's ability as a DM supersedes his ability as a CB, but that does not make him a makeshift CB which is what A40 is pointing out.

Coogar of blessed memory

olabode89:


Lol.... na the matter full this thread nau.... airmark's position that Javi Martinez will not be used as a centre back when other natural/primary centre backs are available is correct because Martinez's ability as a DM supersedes his ability as a CB, but that does not make him a makeshift CB which is what A40 is pointing out.

And if it means he would be deployed as a midfielder (his natural position) instead, how is he not a Makeshift CB??

olabode89:


LMAO... i think say na only me notice am.... Too much bad blood
Javi Martinez is primarily a defensive midfielder that can also play as a centre back.
definition of makeshift - serving as a temporary substitute; sufficient for the time being.
Synonyms of makeshift - temporary, provisional, interim, stopgap, make-do, standby
It is clear to the blind and audible to the deaf that Javi Martinez is not a makeshift centre back although we can argue that it is not his primary position.

A footballer cannot be a makeshift in a position with over 20 appearance in that position, at a point he becomes competent in playing that position

His supposed "competency" is irrelevant here...

If Javi Martinez has been synonymous with words like "Temporary", "Provisional" and similar terms you stated previously (as regards his role as a CB), he is a Makeshift player in that position.

olabode89:


The crux taking away the makeshift tag.
An example of a makeshift centre back will be Carrick for United when the team had an injury crisis.

Lemme refer to this post of yours...

olabode89:


Javi Martinez will not be used as a centre back when other natural/primary centre backs are available.

If Javi Martinez would only be considered for a CB role when other primary CBs are unavailable (and would be made to battle for a place in midfield instead) then it's fair to assume that Javi only made those appearances when the team had injury crises and suspension issues, making him a Makeshift CB in the process.

olabode89:


Mascherano falls under the same category as Javi Martinez, a defensive midfielder that can play as a centre back.

Mascherano no longer belongs to this category at Barcelona - he Is now a 1st choice CB there.

As we speak, it wouldnt be outta place tag Mascherano as a Makeshift Defensive Midfielder for Barcelona sef.

Dadehmola:


And if it means he would be deployed as a midfielder (his natural position) instead, how is he not a Makeshift CB??



His supposed "competency" is irrelevant here...

If Javi Martinez has been synonymous with words like "Temporary", "Provisional" and similar terms you stated previously (as regards his role as a CB), he is a Makeshift player in that position.



Lemme refer to this post of yours...



If Javi Martinez would only be considered for a CB role when other primary CBs are unavailable (and would be made to battle for a place in midfield instead) then it's fair to assume that Javi only made those appearances when the team had injury crises and suspension issues, making him a Makeshift CB in the process.



Mascherano no longer belongs to this category at Barcelona - he Is now a 1st choice CB there.

As we speak, it wouldnt be outta place tag Mascherano as a Makeshift Defensive Midfielder for Barcelona sef.

God bless you . It's not difficult to detect a brilliant person.

What more can U say about the most watched league in the world

olabode89:


Lol.... na the matter full this thread nau.... airmark's position that Javi Martinez will not be used as a centre back when other natural/primary centre backs are available is correct because Martinez's ability as a DM supersedes his ability as a CB, but that does not make him a makeshift CB which is what A40 is pointing out.

His position is incorrect. I have highlighted 3 different instances in 3 different competitions where Martinez played at CB even with Benatia available. The cretin even claimed Javi never played any crucial match for Spain at CB. I proved him wrong again

I also like Javi at DM. We called him the Spanish Effenberg. However to label him a makeshift CB after playing there for Spain, Bilbao and Bayern is the height of idiocy.

From even the basic understanding of the word "makeshift" how does it apply here?

I gave him another example and asked him if Mascherano is also a CB using his ret@rded logic he has not responded

No wonder nobody cares about Ligue1, seria A and burndisleaguedown.

Atleast spain has 3 strong contenders.

airmark:


Lol , I don't know when espn is the same as Uefa, feyingbole secondary school graduate in action . May be those you called will tell you that they missed the old in-form pique /puyol pairing. Now you want them to come to your rescue, DOA. eluded him for years[/b]. Not surprised.

Rescue? This one is brain dead ooh. Answer question Oga Titus. Where is Mascherano listed by his employers FC Barcelona?

http://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/first-team/staff/players/mascherano

If you can't read beg someone to read for you.
Why can't you man up and defend your logic? Okuko. Your obfuscation tactics cannot work today

Mascherano and Puyol pairing has delivered 2 CL titles but continue disgracing your ancestors

olabode89:


LMAO... i think say na only me notice am.... Too much bad blood

Javi Martinez is primarily a defensive midfielder that can also play as a centre back.

definition of makeshift - serving as a temporary substitute; sufficient for the time being.

Synonyms of makeshift - temporary, provisional, interim, stopgap, make-do, standby

It is clear to the blind and audible to the deaf that Javi Martinez is not a makeshift centre back, although we can argue that it is not his primary position. A footballer cannot be a makeshift in a position with over 20 appearance in that position, at a point he becomes competent in playing that position taking away the makeshift tag.

An example of a makeshift centre back will be Carrick for United when the team had an injury crisis.

Mascherano falls under the same category as Javi Martinez, a defensive midfielder that can play as a centre back.

So guys abeg make una let the argument rest.

This your explanation is too complex for Oga Titus to understand. Mere looking at the blunders he has dropped in less than 2 weeks he is easily the most ignorant member of this section and the reference point for stewpidity.
Mere looking at the second stanza of your post. Anyone with a working brain knows that Javi falls into that bracket

He played a full season at CB before even signing for Bayern. A fact unknown to the Brainlessav Moronovich who thought Javi played for Bayern in 2011/2012

A player who has played 4 seasons at Center back and also played there for Spain. This beast of burden is still showing illiteracy

Its expected sha. After all he once told us all DMs are playmakers

A40:

[s]This your explanation is too complex for Oga Titus to understand. Mere looking at the blunders he has dropped in less than 2 weeks he is easily the most ignorant member of this section and the reference point for stewpidity.
Mere looking at the second stanza of your post. Anyone with a working brain knows that Javi falls into that bracket
He played a full season at CB before even signing for Bayern. A fact unknown to the Brainlessav Moronovich who thought Javi played for Bayern in 2011/2012[/s]
A player who has played 4 seasons at Center back and also played there for Spain

On their way to UCL glory in 2013, against your former team arsenal, can you tell me where javi played on the field? Against juventus? Against barcelona ? These are when Dante, boateng and badstuber were fit. Please tell me you did nt know javi was pushed to his midfield position.

A40:


Mascherano and Puyol pairing has delivered 2 CL titles but continue disgracing your ancestors

Please list those two cl titles puyol and mascherano pairing delivered ? I want the answer on post card . Dayo did nt desert you for no reason, he knows your weaknesses and you are a liability to him. He regrets you left arsenal to join bayern. Even olabode who wanted to give an helping hand has taken to his heels . Only a stupid fly will follow corpse into the grave. I am waiting for the 2 ucls, puyol/mascherano's pairing brought to nou camp. dahdemola come and see dayo's boy oo.

airmark:


dahdemola come and see dayo's boy oo.

Mehn, you could be a real pain in the arsè atimes sha...

airmark:


On their way to UCL glory in 2013, against your former team arsenal, can you tell me where javi played on the field? Against juventus? Against barcelona ? These are when Dante, boateng and badstuber were fit. Please tell me you did nt know javi was pushed to his midfield position.

What is the meaning of this stewpid question? And how is it germane to the debate.

Everyone knows Jupp Heynckes saw Javi as a DM

What did Guardiola see Javi as? Answer oponu

airmark:

Please list those two cl titles puyol and mascherano pairing delivered ? I want the answer on post card . Dayo did nt desert you for no reason, he knows your weaknesses and you are a liability to him. He regrets you left arsenal to join bayern. Even olabode who wanted to give an helping hand has taken to his heels . Only a stupid fly will follow corpse into the grave. I am waiting for the 2 ucls, puyol/mascherano's pairing brought to nou camp. dahdemola come and see dayo's boy oo.

Errorist in Chief. Don't pull a strawman. Anybody with a working brain knows Pique is what was intended

Olabode and Dayo do not have the tolerance level I have for a mental handicap like you


Come and explain your gaffes below

airmark:



For your info, the first game javi played for bayern he played as a midfielder in that 2011/2012,

airmark:

. I have gone so low to your level by even copying dictionary definition of the word ''makeshift'' .If you are still asking me to explain how javi is a makeshift cb getting play time, cos the likes of benatia, badstuber were injured

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spielbericht/index/spielbericht/2615047?id=2615047&seo=spielbericht

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spielbericht/index/spielbericht/2581995

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spielbericht/index/spielbericht/2682240?id=2682240&seo=spielbericht


Explain why Javi started ahead of Benatia in the league, DFB Pokal and Champions League

airmark:

Meanwhile, Javi never played any crucial match for spain as CB Sometimes i wonder if they don't do debates in secondary schools again. Your line of argument is like a prepared dungeon, deep enough to bury you.

Was Spain vs Chile a crucial match or naah?

airmark:
your brain that a DM = Deep-lying playmaker? .

Not forgetting when I had to school this Oponu on the difference between a DM and deep lying playmaker

Airmark the Apoche cra cra. Titus Bramble of the Sports section

GOOFANTI

raumdeuter:

Fantastic to see Kimmich in the squad. I am not sure its the final one but its good to see him come this far

Looks like there is still some hope Schweinsteiger would be fit

A40:


Everyone knows Jupp Heynckes saw Javi as a DM

Dayo saw javi as DM, Bayern saw him as midfielder, uefa saw him as midfielder, coogar saw him as DM, I saw him as DM, now you just confirmed that the coach that brought him to bayern saw him as DM, but only you ajakaja-40 saw him as Defender. They should just replace your brain with cockroach's own.

A40:


Anybody with a working brain knows Pique is what was intended

Really ? That's why i stated earlier you were more confused than i thought. Is it the P that starts the two names that made you type puyol in place of pique? E ma gbami? Do you think you were arguing with your colleague at owode onirin? Javi is a makeshift cb, at full strength he is not better than both boateng and benatia as cb. he is going back to his midfield position, benatia's horrible history of injuries made him to be playing that cb role. It's so appalling you have poor knowledge of your key players . What chased you away from arsenal ?

airmark:


Dayo saw javi as DM, Bayern saw him as midfielder, uefa saw him as midfielder, coogar saw him as DM, I saw him as DM, now you just confirmed that the coach that brought him to bayern saw him as DM, but only you ajakaja-40 saw him as Defender. They should just replace your brain with cockroach's own.

GOOFANTI. Everybody knows Javi is also a DM but can play at CB comfortably. Omugo with your head like Jabulani. I am sure you were a donkey in your previous life

You have still not told us where FC Barcelona listed Javier Mascherano. Mr 0-41

Shame will not let you defend your mor0nic gaffes

airmark:

Really ? That's why i stated earlier you were more confused than i thought. Is it the P that starts the two names that made you type puyol in place of pique? E ma gbami? Do you think you were arguing with your colleague at owode onirin? Javi is a makeshift cb, at full strength he is not better than both boateng and benatia as cb. he is going back to his midfield position, benatia's horrible history of injuries made him to be playing that cb role. It's so appalling you have poor knowledge of your key players . What chased you away from arsenal ?

Ori e ti foka sibe. You think you are at Challenge arguing with your fellow NURTW interns. Even if Benatia and Boateng are better than Javi Martinez that doesn't make Javi a makeshift CB. Carvalho and Terry were better than Huth so does that make Huth a makeshift CB? Walahi they have traded your brains for Asaro and Lafun

Is Javier Mascherano also a makeshift CB? Also tell us how Ngolo Kante, Casemiro and Emeka Ezeugo are deep lying playmakers

Your IQ is lower than that of an Ekpan fly. I showed you 3 different instances of Javi starting ahead of a fit Benatia and you are still deceiving yourself. Won ti teba were fun e

You that saw Javi in Bayern at 2011/2012 is telling me I don't know my team. O ma fara je gba gbehin ni

Wearing stewpidity for neck like say na eso

A40:

GOOFANTI. Everybody knows Javi is also a DM but can play at CB comfortably.

Slippers is used for legs but can be used to beat a foolish guy like a40. you dig ? No you won't.

A40:

Carvalho and Terry were better than Huth so does that make Huth a makeshift CB?

You are not making any sense. Huth was known from mowe to Doha as cb , he was bought to play as cb for chelsea . Can you say heynckes bought Javi to play as cb ? What kind of nonsensical examples do you always bring up in arguments ? Did nt you participate in lit & debating in college , if at all you went to one ? I have given you reasons why Javi is a makeshift cb, yet you are arguing blindly. When pep came Javi stated he has to learn a lot in his new role at Bayern as cb. Even under pep whenever boateng and benatia were fully fit he was pushed into the midfield. Stop disgracing yourself bro. Javi is a midfielder and a makeshift cb .

airmark:


Slippers is used for legs but can be used to beat a foolish guy like a40. you dig ? No you won't.

You and your apoche cra cra examples ojo wo lo fe gbon ba yi? Del Bosque, Bielsa, Pep. 3 different managers used him at that position.

You have still not told us where FC Barcelona listed Javi Mascherano. Is he also a makeshift CB since you claim Barca fans are missing Puyol/Pique partnership

DENSE-IA

airmark:

You are not making any sense. Huth was known from mowe to Doha as cb , he was bought to play as cb for chelsea . Can you say heynckes bought Javi to play as cb ? What kind of nonsensical examples do you always bring up in arguments ? Did nt you participate in lit & debating in college , if at all you went to one ? I have given you reasons why Javi is a makeshift cb, yet you are arguing blindly. When pep came Javi stated he has to learn a lot in his new role at Bayern as cb. Even under pep whenever boateng and benatia were fully fit he was pushed into the midfield. Stop disgracing yourself bro. Javi is a midfielder and makeshift cb .

You are a doofus. Where a player was bought does not mean that is where he must permanently play. Go and ask where they buried your placenta because this stewpidity is paranormal.

Where was Mascherano bought to play? No wonder you saw Javi Martinez in Bayern in 2011/2012

Even someone that attended Jelosinmi, Abe igi primary school cannot display this kind of ignorance.

You erroneously claimed Javi did not play at CB in a crucial match for Spain.

Your brain is so poorly formed you don't even recognize certain players can play multiple positions. Its called versatility Didinrindato

airmark:

Even under pep whenever boateng and benatia were fully fit he was pushed into the midfield. Stop disgracing yourself bro. Javi is a midfielder and makeshift cb .

What kind of ewure are you that does not take to correction. This is why I call you apoche cra cra (Smelly he-goat)

Stop repeating this nonsense line. I have shown you 3 different links that show Javi starting ahead of Benatia and it took me less than 30 seconds to do so.

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spielbericht/index/spielbericht/2615047?id=2615047&seo=spielbericht

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spielbericht/index/spielbericht/2581995

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spielbericht/index/spielbericht/2682240?id=2682240&seo=spielbericht

Boateng is the only member of that center back crew whose position is unquestionable

More Evidence to bury the apoche cra cra

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spielbericht/index/spielbericht/2618604

A40:



Stop repeating this nonsense line. I have shown you 3 different links that show Javi starting ahead of Benatia and it took me less than 30 seconds to do so.

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spielbericht/index/spielbericht/2615047?id=2615047&seo=spielbericht

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spielbericht/index/spielbericht/2581995

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spielbericht/index/spielbericht/2682240?id=2682240&seo=spielbericht

Boateng is the only member of that center back crew whose position is unquestionable

Lol everyone except you know if not for fitness , an 80% fit benatia will start ahead of Javi at cb. Below is injury history of benatia this season use your brain to tell me why a benatia that just got healed on 26th of October would be rushed for a match in October against wolfsburg ? Are you this stvpid ? On December 5 against monchengladbach Javi was pushed to the midfield by pep, when benatia was fit. The following week javi played in the midfield again as badstuber was played as cb too against ingolstadt . It's shameful I am the one telling you why Javi was starting ahead benatia. No true Bavarian would disagree with me. Your mind may still be with your former club, arsenal. You are not making any sense at all. Below is benatia injury history this season and the match Javi being pushed to the midfield with a fit benatia and boateng pairing at the back. Use your brain to analyse for once.

airmark:


Lol everyone except you know if not for fitness , an 80% fit benatia will start ahead of Javi at cb. Below is injury history of benatia this season use your brain to tell me why a benatia that just got healed on 26th of October would be rushed for a match in October against wolfsburg ? Are you this stvpid ? On December 5 against monchengladbach Javi was pushed to the midfield by pep, when benatia was fit. The following week javi played in the midfield again as badstuber was played as cb too against ingolstadt . It's shameful I am the one telling you why Javi was starting ahead benatia. No true Bavarian would disagree with me. Your mind may still be with your former club, arsenal. You are not making any sense at all. Below is benatia injury history this season and the match Javi being pushed to the midfield with a fit benatia and boateng pairing at the back. Use your brain to analyse for once.

Errorist. If Benatia was as important as Boateng he would have started. Jerome Boateng was out for over 3 months and jumped straight to the starting lineup vs Gladbach so come up with another excuse.

No one claimed Javi never played at DM with Benatia on the pitch. Dangbana always obfuscating the debate

Was Benatia also just coming from injury vs Atletico? Both legs

Ingolstadt?

Arsenal

Ewu. If he made the bench then anybody with a functioning brain knows he must have been more than 80% fit.

Javi played at CB with Benatia on the bench multiple times, he played with Badstuber on the bench (a serial crock anyway) even with Boateng on the bench

A40:


No one claimed Javi never played at DM with Benatia on the pitch. Dangbana always obfuscating the debate

I thought you said pep saw him as cb. mumu. For your info, in pep's first season in germany Javi played more as a dm , he played 28 games as dm as against 11 as cb . I don't even need to bring that of heycknes era, cos you confirmed that already. So averagely Javi played over 75% matches as midfielder for bayern. Save for this season due to serious injuries to both boateng and benatia we would have been talking about 90% midfield appearance . Will you please return to your arsenal team with your bags of lies and foolish stuffs ? Hummels is here, javi should thank his stars Alonso is getting old. If not , he would by now be thinking of going to mls.

airmark:


I thought you said pep saw him as cb. mumu. For your info, in pep's first season in germany Javi played more as a dm , he played 28 games as dm as against 11 as cb . I don't even need to bring that of heycknes era, cos you confirmed that already. So averagely Javi played over 75% matches as midfielder for bayern. Save for this season due to serious injuries to both boateng and benatia we would have been talking about 90% midfield appearance . Will you please return to your arsenal team with your bags of lies ? Hummels is here, javi should thank his stars Alonso is getting old. If not , he would by now be thinking of going to mls.

Apoche cra cra. Pep did not see him as a CB yet he played 11 matches there.

Simple Maths you don't know. Javi Martinez played 34 matches so how did you arrive at 28 games at DM and 11 at CB. Errorist

If Pep did not see him as a CB he would not play that many games at CB. Especially with a defensive pairing that just won a treble

This year Javi played 27 games. 24 at CB!!!! Even when Benatia and Badstuber hell even Boateng were fit like I have since shown. CB is not Javi's main position Reetardo Banks I don't know why you are shadowboxing

So out of 63 games in the last 3 seasons he played 36 at CB. Not forgetting he also played there for Spain. Yet you still call him a makeshift CB . Walahi you need CAC Agbala Itura

Olodo rabata

A40:

[s]Apoche cra cra. Pep did not see him as a CB yet he played 11 matches there.

Simple Maths you don't know. Javi Martinez played 34 matches so how did you arrive at 28 games at DM and 11 at CB. Errorist

If Pep did not see him as a CB he would not play that many games at CB. Especially with a defensive pairing that just won a treble

This year Javi played 27 games. 24 at CB!!!! Even when Benatia and Badstuber were fit like I have since shown

So out of 61 games played he played 35 at CB. Not forgetting he also played there for Spain. Yet you still call him a makeshift CB . Walahi you need CAC Agbala Itura

Olodo rabata[/s]

Before injury crises of benatia and boateng how did pep see Javi? Can you tell me which position he played more in pep first season? These are the crucial things to know not about Spain or if there's error in figures. The fact is pep played him more as a dm, cos you were shouting up and down as if pep only used him as cb. Now no more injury issues, hummels is here, the only thing for the makeshift cb to do is to fight for his place in the midfield. No sane coach will put a 90% fit of any of boateng, hummels and benatia on the bench and start Javi as cb. It will only happen in your brain. Even your former mentor specialist in failure , wenger wont dare it. If pep could prefer badstuber to him , ancelotti may even decide to sell him to Leicester. By that time you must have returned to arsenal.

Airmark!

Please is Mascherano a makeshift CB?

coded01:
Airmark!

Please is Mascherano a makeshift CB?

Post it in your thread I don't want a40 to escape the guillotine here. He has been looking for escape route. It's all about Javi Martinez, if you follow my line of argument critically the answer to your question is embedded, but I will answer you on your thread . Fully fit benatia and boateng will not be available and a sane coach will put Javi as cb.

Dunno why Dayo is silent on this issue..

John Mikel Obi is a centre-back.

Griffon:
John Mikel Obi is a centre-back.

Juan Mata is a Winger just like Christian Eriksen.

Di Maria is a central midfielder. Emre Can is a right back.

airmark:


Post it in your thread I don't want a40 to escape the guillotine here. He has been looking for escape route. It's all about Javi Martinez, if you follow my line of argument critically the answer to your question is embedded, but I will answer you on your thread . Fully fit benatia and boateng will not be available and a sane coach will put Javi as cb.

Dont know if u have been following bayern munich games but any bayern fan will tell u that benatia has been a flop at bayern...its no shock to think that javi will be preferred to him in defence...

kendrick9:
Dont know if u have been following bayern munich games but any bayern fan will tell u [b]that benatia has been a flop at bayern...[/b]its no shock to think that javi will be preferred to him in defence...

Pkasso raumdeuter A40

Oya discuss

airmark:


Before injury crises of benatia and boateng how did pep see Javi? Can you tell me which position he played more in pep first season? These are the crucial things to know not about Spain or if there's error in figures. The fact is pep played him more as a dm, cos you were shouting up and down as if pep only used him as cb. Now no more injury issues, hummels is here, the only thing for the makeshift cb to do is to fight for his place in the midfield. No sane coach will put a 90% fit of any of boateng, hummels and benatia on the bench and start Javi as cb. It will only happen in your brain. Even your former mentor specialist in failure , wenger wont dare it. If pep could prefer badstuber to him , ancelotti may even decide to sell him to Leicester. By that time you must have returned to arsenal.

And for the record, Javi martinez didn't just start playing CB for bayern. at athletic bilbao, he played as both dm and Cb.. i watched some of his games when he was plying his trade in spain