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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by babniyen(m): 11:38am On May 24, 2016
Dear House, Thanks for a very informative and vibrant house.

I am currently challenged (my first one) with a project that i have calculated that the consumption of the house is 20,300 Ah per day. All my calculations seem to be going off the charts.

Gurus please assist me in sizing this setup with a 24 v inverter.

Thanks ....
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by tundebabzy: 1:31pm On May 24, 2016
babniyen:
Dear House, Thanks for a very informative and vibrant house.

I am currently challenged (my first one) with a project that i have calculated that the consumption of the house is 20,300 Ah per day. All my calculations seem to be going off the charts.

Gurus please assist me in sizing this setup with a 24 v inverter.

Thanks ....
Did you mean 20,300Wh ? That's huge. Maybe you'll get more help if you show your workings because 20,300Wh is off the charts
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by babniyen(m): 1:36pm On May 24, 2016
My mistake, 20,300 WH. thanks
tundebabzy:

Did you mean 20,300Wh ? That's huge. Maybe you'll get more help if you show your workings because 20,300Wh is off the charts
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by JUO(m): 2:10pm On May 24, 2016
babniyen:
My mistake, 20,300 WH. thanks
on a 24v system?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by babniyen(m): 2:34pm On May 24, 2016
its not planted in stone, please advice. Thank you.
JUO:
on a 24v system?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by chris81964(m): 2:58pm On May 25, 2016
babniyen:
Dear House, Thanks for a very informative and vibrant house.

I am currently challenged (my first one) with a project that i have calculated that the consumption of the house is 20,300 Ah per day. All my calculations seem to be going off the charts.

Gurus please assist me in sizing this setup with a 24 v inverter.

Thanks ....

On your 24 V you need about 1800 AH in batteries (@50% DOD). And 4500 Watts for your panels.
The refrigerator and freezer if they are new don't run for 24 hours straight. They run for approximately 6 to 8 hours a day. That might help you reduce your useage.
Good luck
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 5:11pm On May 25, 2016
babniyen:
its not planted in stone, please advice. Thank you.

20,300wh!!, i bet u hv 2 units 2hp ac + 2 deep freezer n all sorts of high power loads. u need to itemize ur load, so we understand how u arrived at such a high figure, ...ie if u r interested in getting a lower quote, but if u hv the cash go for it then...some1 has been kind enough to give a breakdown of what u need.

m 2cents...if u aint bouyant enough.......running acs on inverter/solar aint good, take them off

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by tradeplusib: 9:16pm On May 25, 2016

Hello everyone,

Does anyone have an idea where I can get the 3kva axpert hybrid inverter sold by solarshop fixed?

One of our units just went dead (totally blank no display). Its been a pretty good workhorse ,been on continuously for 2yrs +

Thanks

Does anyone know where to service these AXPERT inverters please?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by obimind(m): 11:20pm On May 25, 2016
Presently my solar charge controller is 20ah pwm and I have 4 pieces of 150 watts panel. My battery bank is 400 ah. My question is this: is my charge controller undersize?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by obimind(m): 11:22pm On May 25, 2016
My installer told me that I only need a 30ah solar charge controller when I am operating on a 3.5kva inverter system which is bigger compared to my present 1.5 kva inverter. I need more clarification on this pls.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by tradeplusib: 6:29am On May 26, 2016
obimind:
Presently my solar charge controller is 20ah pwm and I have 4 pieces of 150 watts panel. My battery bank is 400 ah. My question is this: is my charge controller undersize?

If you have a 12v or 24v system your charge controller is undersized. If your system is 48v youre ok,
For simplicity just divide your total solar array size (600watts) by your battery bank/system voltage, that gives you an idea of what you need.

Hope that helps
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by onitaja(m): 6:46am On May 26, 2016
Thanks everyone for your answers. I will work on the load reduction and give details. Thanks again.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by obimind(m): 8:26am On May 26, 2016
tradeplusib:


If you have a 12v or 24v system your charge controller is undersized. If your system is 48v youre ok,
For simplicity just divide your total solar array size (600watts) by your battery bank/system voltage, that gives you an idea of what you need.

Hope that helps
My set up is on 12v. What ah of solar charge controller will u advice me to go for?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by JohnKester: 9:25am On May 26, 2016
earthrealm:


20,300wh!!, i bet u hv 2 units 2hp ac + 2 deep freezer n all sorts of high power loads. u need to itemize ur load, so we understand how u arrived at such a high figure, ...ie if u r interested in getting a lower quote, but if u hv the cash go for it then...some1 has been kind enough to give a breakdown of what u need.

m 2cents...if u aint bouyant enough.......running acs on inverter/solar aint good, take them off

I am curious.

Why is it not good to run air conditioners on solar, if you are off-grid and has the power, and an inverter that can handle the air conditioners?

Cheers.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by tradeplusib: 1:09pm On May 26, 2016
obimind:

My set up is on 12v. What ah of solar charge controller will u advice me to go for?

12v ?

What's the size of the cable running from your panels to your controller? At 600watts you're trying to get 40 - 50A through those cables. If three not big enough this will be an effort in futility
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Barezzi(m): 1:22pm On May 26, 2016
JohnKester:


I am curious.

Why is it not good to run air conditioners on solar, if you are off-grid and has the power, and an inverter that can handle the air conditioners?

Cheers.
Absolutely nothing bruv... You can put any load on your inverter as long as it's properly rated for it, and you've got the benjamins for a huge battery bank!
With an inadequate battery bank, your back-up will be in seconds grin grin grin

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by obimind(m): 2:52pm On May 26, 2016
tradeplusib:


12v ?

What's the size of the cable running from your panels to your controller? At 600watts you're trying to get 40 - 50A through those cables. If three not big enough this will be an effort in futility
I'm feeling so sad within myself right now. I have this feeling that I don't have a capable installer who is close by to give me the right advice. I had to confront him today telling him the same thing u just told me & he is still insisting that the 20ah pwm charge controller he installed for me is capable of handling my 150 watts panel which is in four pieces. What do I do now?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by obimind(m): 3:05pm On May 26, 2016
That being the case, my battery bank is 400 ah in total. What size of charge controller will be okay for my battery if my panel rating is a total of 600 watts?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by temizeee(m): 5:39pm On May 26, 2016
obimind:
That being the case, my battery bank is 400 ah in total. What size of charge controller will be okay for my battery if my panel rating is a total of 600 watts?
well...a 150 watt solar panel has an optimum operating current of 8.38A. Makes a total of 33.52A of current but since you are will b using pwm, don't expect more than that current..... U can go for a 30amp(cc) or 40amp(cc)
40amp pwm cc is not common.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by tradeplusib: 6:59pm On May 26, 2016
temizeee:
well...a 150 watt solar panel has an optimum operating current of 8.38A. Makes a total of 33.52A of current but since you are will b using pwm, don't expect more than that current..... U can go for a 30amp(cc) or 40amp(cc)
40amp pwm cc is not common.

obimind:
That being the case, my battery bank is 400 ah in total. What size of charge controller will be okay for my battery if my panel rating is a total of 600 watts?

I would suggest at this point you re-plan your system so you don't waste unnecessary resources.

With your present set up a 40 - 50 ah charge controller is adequate. Ask the marketer on the thread they are available. If youre in lagos roy solar is based at alaba and stocks reliable pwm controllers at reasonable prices.

Your main problem will be your cable. Even if you upgrade your charge controller without the adequate size cables running from your panels to the controller you won't see any noticable difference. You need at minimum 16mm cables to deliver that current.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by JUO(m): 9:57pm On May 26, 2016
obimind:

My set up is on 12v. What ah of solar charge controller will u advice me to go for?
this is what you need. Contact me for pick up

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mank1234(m): 10:16pm On May 26, 2016
This your controller's efficiency must be > 100%. Input power (63.9*8.9) < output power (14.4*39.7).
Clearly, those displayed readings are inaccurate cos energy cannot be created inside the unit.

What's the brand name?

JUO:
this is what you need. Contact me for pick up
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bigrovar(m): 10:23pm On May 26, 2016
temizeee:
well...a 150 watt solar panel has an optimum operating current of 8.38A. Makes a total of 33.52A of current but since you are will b using pwm, don't expect more than that current..... U can go for a 30amp(cc) or 40amp(cc)
40amp pwm cc is not common.
when u factor in ineffiency of .77 that figure comes down to about 25ah. I think it is manageable. However that's a lot of current with relatively low voltage. What u think u are saving by getting a cheap controller u will have to spend on wiring otherwise having such high current pass through a less than 16mm wire within a short distance will not only resort to massive voltage losses.. the resistance might lead to heat which can cause a fire. The distance between your panel and cc will be key.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bigrovar(m): 10:35pm On May 26, 2016
babniyen:
My mistake, 20,300 WH. thanks
first work before u even all of price is how to make your power consumption very efficient. Doing that can save u a lot of unnecessary cost. Hint. Your freezer don't have to run all the time, your AC don't have to run at all. Get rechargeable fans and even those run on demand. Get energy saver bulbs of not more than 11w. TV don't have to be on 24h. U need to itemise each load and hours it would run. Do that and cut down on the huge power consumption and watch ur bill go down.

My house is sooo Energy efficient that often time what we use in a day is replaced before noon the next day and in most cases we can run the house directly from solar while the battery stays in float. And yes my load include a 175L freezer. We barely scratched 40% dod of our 440ah battery bank.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by tradeplusib: 5:04am On May 27, 2016
JUO:
this is what you need. Contact me for pick up
Wow are those figures realistic in a chinese mppt? Abeg what's the price?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by JUO(m): 6:20am On May 27, 2016
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by JUO(m): 6:21am On May 27, 2016
mank1234:
This your controller's efficiency must be > 100%. Input power (63.9*8.9) < output power (14.4*39.7).
Clearly, those displayed readings are inaccurate cos energy cannot be created inside the unit.

What's the brand name?

lipsrsealed

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DMerciful(m): 3:40pm On May 27, 2016
How come the output power is greater than the input power? This controller is not reading accurately! grin
JUO:
this is what you need. Contact me for pick up
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DMerciful(m): 3:41pm On May 27, 2016
https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/3764648_img20160507123334_jpege2921cd71b38797d43a1356e10783f7dHow come the output power is greater than the input power? This controller is not reading accurately! grin
JUO:
this is what you need. Contact me for pick up
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DMerciful(m): 3:41pm On May 27, 2016
Output cannot be greater than input....which kind efficiency be that.
JUO:
this is what you need. Contact me for pick up
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by JUO(m): 4:17pm On May 27, 2016
DMerciful:
Output cannot be greater than input....which kind efficiency be that.
even after seeing the picture? getting facts across to 'sincerely ignorant' people is like baptizing a cat grin
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by tradeplusib: 7:05pm On May 27, 2016
JUO:
even after seeing the picture? getting facts across to 'sincerely ignorant' people is like baptizing a cat grin

No offence but these 'ignorant' folks have a good point. A simple attestation that you have gone beyond the display during your testing period to actually tacking measurements with a meter clamp would be enough education for us all I should think.

After all where all here to learn

grin

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