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| Re: The Niger Delta In Pictures by PhysicsMHD(m): 2:02am On Jan 20, 2011 |
cold:Didn't say that. My point is, it doesn't follow that in a country that is corrupt all across the board, progressiveness and good governance is required from the group being exploited before exploitation will stop. That's all that needs to be realized. In all of these, rarely have pundits and political referees examined the blame-worthy role of the elites and state governments in the oil-producing region. Somehow, we seem to forget that governments and powerful individuals in and outside of the region are also responsible for the ill, the indifference and the calamities that have come to characterize the region. In other words, for all the blames at the door step of the oil companies and the federal government, the elites and the state governments are also culpable.It's not a 50/50 split of the blame, though. They have, in no small measure, contributed to the abysmal state the people are in. There is ample evidence to show that those at the upper echelon of the political and economic ladder have, for the most part, engaged in predatory practices – practices that have for so long been inimical to the progress and wellbeing of the common man.Ok. But this happens throughout all of Nigeria and occasionally on a greater scale and to a worse extent than in the ND, so I don't see how pearls are supposed to emerge in the midst of rubbish. If the large parties (ACN (West controlled), PDP (North controlled), APGA, etc. ) all become shining exemplars of virtue, progressive governance, accountability, development, etc. do you actually believe what goes on in the ND could come to pass or even be allowed to happen in the midst of all that uprightness and accountability? Considering the state of the nine oil-producing states, one must ask: where have all the monthly allocations gone? Where are the roads and the schools and the clinics and hospitals? Where are the libraries, the science laboratories and the parks? Where are the waterworks, the bridges and the industries? Where are the social services these governments are supposed to provide their citizens? Stolen? Mismanaged? Where, where has all the money the various states in the Niger Delta received since 1999 gone?Where has anything gone in the rest of Nigeria? Although some have argued that the current revenue allocation formula is unfair, not proportionate to the contribution of the region to the national purse, still, the region continues to receive hefty and stupendous amounts when compared to previous eras.You really didn't even attempt to read through that thread did you? This is just false. See http://www.dawodu.net/igho.htm See http://www.dawodu.com/natufe1.htm Frankly, whether fair or unfair, these governments have not judiciously spent the amount they have been receiving since the beginning of this republic.And those who contribute less to revenue and receive less have almost all managed to do the same. Considering their monthly allocations, and considering also what‘s available on the ground, it seems that some 70 per cent of monthly receipts have either gone into the pockets of the ruling class and their cronies, or have been scandalously misappropriated.70%? Sure. I would put the rest of Nigeria at 70% too if I were also to make my own statistics. The nine federating states of the Niger Delta may have received more money than the next twenty states combined.You seriously need to stop and think about how allocation works in this Nigeria thing. If Edo state gets 1% of 13% of oil revenue and has a population of about 3.6 - 4 million and 18 LG's and Nassarawa state has a population of 2 million and 13 LGs it's extremely unlikely that Edo state is getting more oil money per person than Nassarawa state even though Edo state is getting its standard allocation plus 1% of 13% extra. Together, their yearly allocation is more than that of Gambia, Senegal, Burkina Faso, Chad and Togo combined.I think you meant that their allocation was larger than the GDP of these countries. OK, but have any of these countries achieved anything? Or are they poor? The answer is that they are very poor. What have the governments in the Niger Delta done with these robust allocations? What happened to the people‘s money?I don't know what it is that you're calling robust. Anyways, these people are not accountable to their own people. They are accountable and owe their allegiance to the government of the day, which just so happens to be building a petrochemical industry in Kaduna. Refinery in Kaduna, etc. Now ask yourself, what happened to the people's money? What's it doing in the desert? The ongoing struggle for justice and accountability must not end with the federal government and the oil companies. Activists, the police and law enforcement agencies, commentators, and freedom fighters in the Niger Delta must also investigate the activities of the so-called elites and oligarchy within the region. We must not allow them to shift all the blames to ”outsiders.” Governors from the region (1999-2010), were and continue to be part of the problem. In some cases, they are bigger problems than the federal government and the oil companies combined.[/b]Yeah? Elaborate on that. cold:Ogbemudia was, and still is, corrupt. Hope you know this. Watch the video of James Campbell's speech at the Achebe Colloquium (it's on youtube) where he talks about how even some corruption wouldn't be so bad if at least some developmental progress is made. He brings up an example of an Asian country in the 50s (can't recall which one right now) which had very corrupt leadership but still made enormous developmental strides so no one in the U.S. or in their country really cared. Also, all of those governors had either part of 45% (1970-1975) or part of 50% (1964-1970) derivation, not part of 13%. More than a few consider Governor Donald Duke (Cross River, 29 May 1999 to 29 May 2007) an exception. It‘s been said that he, in some ways, justified his stay in office. This exception aside,They consider him an exception because he wasn't corrupt and actually tried to do something to boost his area's economy (Tinapa) but that attempt failed woefully through his own bad planning. http://www.africanloft.com/the-tinapa-tragedy/ https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-566777.32.html |
| Re: The Niger Delta In Pictures by dplordx(m): 3:12pm On Jan 21, 2011 |
[b]@PhysicsMHD I am business man. I have 2 registered companies I built from scratch. I have lived in Bayelsa for 6 good years and I know the big difference between the ND people and other people of Nigeria. ND people play the victim cards every single minute, and even if GEJ spends the next 50 years in power, they would keep blaming the North and Obasanjo for their problems and militancy. These are people who dont even know they represent a great portion of their own problems. Even my own people the ibo suffered heavily in the civil war long left this mental lassitude and we've successfully conquered the commercial soul of the country while the yoruba maintain education. Abeg take your argument to your students. Your logic is totally limited to classrooms and your students who would soon see how limited your postulations are. @cold why on earth would you argue with PhysicsMHD? The guy lives in the textbooks he's always wallowed in while hunting for his Phd. Go through his posts and you will see that this is a guy who likes to argue just for the sake of arguing, all his opinions are based on blatant non-contextual theories that doesnt even point to any concrete solutions. [/b] |
| Re: The Niger Delta In Pictures by PhysicsMHD(m): 11:53pm On Jan 22, 2011 |
dplordx:Oh wow!. . . big man, huh? Stifle yourself . What you're trying to present as some major achievement is freaking commonplace. I didn't ask what so-called businesses you run. At the end of the day, your thinking is neanderthal like. There's absolutely no difference between what you said and what I might hear from the average racial supremacist concerning the “difference between (insert ethnicity/race here) people and other human beings." I have lived in Bayelsa for 6 good years and I know the big difference between the ND people and other people of Nigeria.And yet you don't know Bayelsa has always been a rural undeveloped area from the very beginning of this country to now? The difference between Bayelsa and the rest of southern Nigeria is that it's an almost entirely rural area and other places aren't and have been developing since colonial times. Even my own people the ibo suffered heavily in the civil war long left this mental lassitude and we've successfully conquered the commercial soul of the country while the yoruba maintain education.Who asked what people you belong to or what they're doing? Who asked what the Yoruba are doing now? Im-becile. Guy, look at the number of ND people heading or owning banks and rethink your statement. Delta has one of the highest GDP per capita in the state, Rivers too. Abeg take your argument to your students. Your logic is totally limited to classrooms and your students who would soon see how limited your postulations are.Students? Lol, what a clown. . What postulations? I've said it before and I'll say it again, your whole argument is asinine. Your own people, and mine, have not failed to produce thieves and looters with supporters and money-grubbing sycophants. Look at what Orji just did in Abia! 457 assistants! Is that an ND thing? @coldArguing for the sake of arguing? What would you call what you are engaging in right now? You came in to this thread to argue like a fool merely for the sake of arguing even when what you wanted to argue about had little to do with the thread pictures. Now after being told what you really are, you're still rambling on about nothing just for the sake of rambling. Shut up and go sit in the corner. Few of my posts are from arguments. If you actually did look through my posts. But I'm not surprised to see you just making stuff up. You have so many “businesses” to attend to after all. |
| Re: The Niger Delta In Pictures by Beaf: 12:34am On Jan 23, 2011 |
dplordx:You come across as someone with a very deep inferiority complex. By the way, what is "ibo?" |
| Re: The Niger Delta In Pictures by KaluAkanu: 12:43am On Jan 23, 2011 |
Beaf:We do not recognize him as one of us. Beware of wolves in sheep clothing. I was quite disgusted with his post. |
| Re: The Niger Delta In Pictures by Akhenaten(op): 2:39pm On Apr 05, 2011 |
Time to resurrect this thread from the dead. |
| Re: The Niger Delta In Pictures by Nobody: 3:30pm On Apr 05, 2011 |
It is dead and buried. i think we need to see pictures of MEND atrocities too |
| Re: The Niger Delta In Pictures by Wadeoye(m): 3:48pm On Apr 05, 2011 |
What's GEJ doing about this? |
| Re: The Niger Delta In Pictures by pleep(m): 11:18pm On Apr 09, 2011 |
Are all these problems only in the delta? or is the pollution and degradation found in other oil producing areas like rivers state or a ibom? |
| Re: The Niger Delta In Pictures by joeyarticles: 9:52am On May 30, 2016 |
10 Niger Delta Avengers Arrest By Soldiers, Recover Weapons After a long walk in the dark there seem to be a light at the end of the tunnel, the Nigerian Army has yesterday announce the arrest of about 10 men who are suspected to be members of the new militant group, Niger Delta Avengers. http://www.prestnaija.com/10-niger-delta-avengers-arrest-soldiers-recover-weapons/ |
| Re: The Niger Delta In Pictures by Enahi(f): 11:15am On May 30, 2016 |
@Op you shouldn't do this, these pictures brought tears to my eyes the Niger Deltas has suffered enough. |
| Re: The Niger Delta In Pictures by chigoizie7(m): 12:17pm On May 30, 2016 |
And all these people will have the guts to blame these people? If govt and those companies have been living up to its expectations from time immemorial. These insurgencies wouldn't have been happening in the 1st place. |
| Re: The Niger Delta In Pictures by WeNigerDelta: 12:41pm On May 30, 2016 |
This truly freaking hurts.....It burns everything in me, for over 50years, half a century....This is our only home, the home of our ancestors, our land, our pride...The only crime we ever committed, was God blessed us more than everybody else..... We will never stop fighting EVER... |
| Re: The Niger Delta In Pictures by ba7man(m): 1:27pm On May 30, 2016 |
WeNigerDelta:Don't forget to bomb more oil and gas pipelines. It's very good for your image and environment. |
| Re: The Niger Delta In Pictures by LordAdam: 2:08pm On May 30, 2016 |
ba7man:We are already at our lowest ebbs. It can't get worse. If our lands have been polluted for 50 years with nothing done, while billions of dollars flow to the pockets of our oppressors, we are willing to sacrifice more degradation for more share of our resources for the next 50 years. You can't miss what you don't have control over. -Lord |
| Re: The Niger Delta In Pictures by WeNigerDelta: 9:44pm On May 30, 2016 |
ba7man:I have known my lands like this forever....You have never cared so quit acting or sarcastic like you do.....He who is down fears no fall...We've seen it all, we have nothing after feeding your lazy asses for 50years... So yes we will keep blowing installations up....Because we want a country where we will control our own resources, and we can educated all the children of the ND in world class school....We will even have more than enough to clean up the destruction you haven't cared about for 50years... Let us go and you go figure out how to blow up cocoa plantations for your survival |
| Re: The Niger Delta In Pictures by ba7man(m): 10:55pm On May 30, 2016 |
WeNigerDelta:Nah.... you guys can go ahead with the blowing up of your region in the name of development and to get your country. We'll rather initiate projects that will enhance our society and nurture our cocoa farms so we'll have other sources of income to rely on. |
| Re: The Niger Delta In Pictures by WeNigerDelta: 11:00pm On May 30, 2016 |
ba7man:We've been hearing that for over 50years....When exactly are you guys gonna start feeding yourselves? We have shared our resources enough, feed yourself is all we are begging.... Its our environment not yours..... |
| Re: The Niger Delta In Pictures by LoveMachine(m): 6:17pm On Jun 03, 2016 |
This was hard to get through. Now I see why they don't mind bombing the terminals. The lands have been ruined for so long what is another few barrels? Gov't needs to make things right. |
| Re: The Niger Delta In Pictures by 989900: 7:01pm On Jun 03, 2016 |
An Ijaw man is the President now, I am sure he still remembers what he went throu when he was young and he knows what his people are going throu now,Your comment 5 years ago, sounds so prophetic! |
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Lol, what a clown. .