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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by tevanso(m): 1:34am On Jun 18, 2016
n3xt:


Not all steel rust cos they're coated already. I'm sure we've discussed steel framed structures here before.
brabus brabus ,u no de sleep? Father lord ,Pls help me heal oga brabus from insomnia,in Jesus name i pray

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:43am On Jun 18, 2016
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:47am On Jun 18, 2016
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:50am On Jun 18, 2016
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by babalose: 2:05am On Jun 18, 2016
@Brabus.....it's called making a statement. Buildings can beautify an environment and it can be vice versa but when the former prevails, it inspires people. That's the kind of structure that brings smile to people's face, they brighten any ones day. Imagine the joy the owner feels when it can have that much effect on people passing bye or going into the building


Babalose
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:23am On Jun 18, 2016
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:25am On Jun 18, 2016
babalose:
@Brabus.....it's called making a statement. Buildings can beautiful an environment and it can be vice versa but when the former prevails, it inspires people. That's the kind of structure that brings smile to people's face, they brighten any ones day. Imagine the joy the owner feels when it can have that much effect on people passing bye or going into the building


Babalose

Very true.

I passed this house in Atlanta, Georgia and was so taken. I made a U-turn and stopped to take pictures.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 4:21am On Jun 18, 2016
n3xt:
Openable Local Burglar Proof | Idea


Design by Breachwood Interiors


I like these pictures. Let me see if we can make use of these designs. wink

The floor tiles look like they applied no grout. My contractor discussed about not using grout for my floor tiles but I'm still edgy about it. It does look a lot better without grout. What is your take?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 4:24am On Jun 18, 2016
FastShipping:



I like these pictures. Let me see if we can make use of these designs. wink

Me sef dey shop for new slat designs for Browne Mews.

I'll post here if there are newer stuffs.

#TeamBackerBoard #NoGrout

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 4:26am On Jun 18, 2016
n3xt:
Openable Local Burglar Proof | Idea


Design by Breachwood Interiors
this is one of the thing I am talking about. We can't just be in a cage house all in the name of security. This sample is cool
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 4:36am On Jun 18, 2016
brabus:


Me sef dey shop for new slat designs for Browne Mews.

I'll post here if there are newer stuffs.

#TeamBackerBoard #NoGrout


The floor tiles look like they applied no grout. My contractor discussed about not using grout for my floor tiles but I'm still edgy about it. It does look a lot better without grout. What is your take?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 4:42am On Jun 18, 2016
agarawu23:
this is one of the thing I am talking about. We can't just be in a cage house all in the name of security. This sample is cool

Here's a sliding burglary from my rented apartment in 2000s

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 4:46am On Jun 18, 2016
brabus:


Here's a sliding burglary from my rented apartment in 2000s
my dad have this in our living room but wetin spoil am be say another burglary is outside after this sliding one, so na still cage things
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 4:47am On Jun 18, 2016
FastShipping:



The floor tiles look like they applied no grout. My contractor discussed about not using grout for my floor tiles but I'm still edgy about it. It does look a lot better without grout. What is your take?

Not everybody is comfortable with using grout. Just as many people uses cement/mortar to lay glass blocks which shouldn't be.

Grout is cool though. Getting a good one is the most important thing.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 4:58am On Jun 18, 2016
agarawu23:
my dad have this in our living room but wetin spoil am be say another burglary is outside after this sliding one, so na still cage things

You're very right. The sliding protector made the balcony less attractive to me back then cos I'm not always comfortable opening it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 5:02am On Jun 18, 2016
brabus:


You're very right. The sliding protector made the balcony less attractive to me back then cos I'm always not comfortable opening it.
our's is useless too. We open it only when we have parties or doing general house cleaning.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Ralphlauren(m): 6:33am On Jun 18, 2016
FastShipping:



God bless you for this write-up. Brabus needs to exercise humility. He doesn't know when to shut-up or when to profusely apologize.

Let me tell you a story here. Hajj aware of this and I believe I showed what transpired to Skimanski and few others on blackberry.

Last year I gave my house roofing work to a nairalander. A quack for that matter who claimed to me he was an engineer. He gave me a quote and I paid him in full. I always pay in full upfront. He was supposed to start the work on a Monday but to my surprise he didn't start the work for more than two weeks from the day he was supposed to start. Then the next thing I saw was for the guy to start buying new clothing and displaying his pictures on nairaland. Designer shoes, shirts, trousers and watches. I said to myself wft! I called him several times and his phone was transferring me to different phone. When I eventually spoke to him, he told me he was working on a project at Ajah. I said but you were to start this work since last week.

He eventually bought wood and brought his workers to site after about two weeks. Three days into the work, he sent me a text that the house was bigger than he thought that he needed to make a new quote because they needed more materials. I said this has to be a joke. He sent a new quote and I sent him payment. Hajj was aware. Nothing I do that I don't let Hajj know in regard to my house.


Three weeks into the job, I sent my mum and brother to the site and there was rancor going on there. People who supplied things to the site coming there to curse at my site because my roofer owed them thousands of naira. He owes his carpenters money for over a week and hasn't been showing up. Carpenters were coming to the site but not working because he owed them one week pay. I didn't know that each day I call that he picked up he wasn't at the site. He always said he was eating close by or buying something in the neighborhood. After a month on the roof carcass, he called me that my cousin at the site has been tormenting him. I said how has he been tormenting you. He said the quote he gave me second time was at the insistence of my cousin. He said my cousin said I don't ask questions that I just agree with any quote people give me as long as the work is done right. I said wow. So I told the nairalander that you are a criminal. You agreed to lie to me that the quote was not good enough and I agreed to pay you extra. I said why are you telling me this now? He said the work at the site is a big problem for him that I should call my cousin to return the money he gave to my cousin so he can use the money to buy more nails and wood because materials turned out to be insufficient. At this point I was on the verge on sending him 1.8M Naira for Metcoppo Aluminum sheet quote he gave me to cover the carcass. I quickly told my brother not to transfer the money to him. I quickly called Hajj and called the nairalander quack "engineer" on three way call. To my surprise the guy was defiant on the phone. I couldn't believe it. He was talking as if he was doing me a favor to let me know what was going on at the site.

When I discovered he couldn't be trusted, I contacted Tower and First Aluminum. I woke up 6am U.S time and called those companies. They asked I send them emails. Tower and First Aluminum went to my site and met this nairalander and my cousin. To my surprise, they told those Tower guys to over quote for the roof coverings and give them their shares. The Tower guys said that's not going to happen. When Tower and First Aluminum guys got back to me, they told me the entire roof needed to be torn down because the carcass was not done right. I called the so called nairalander who claimed to be an engineer and told him what those guys had just told me. The next thing the quack engineer from nairaland did was to engage into fight and insult of the First Aluminum guys who were at the site. He told them they wanted to destroy his life. My brother and mother were present to see everything. I called the nairalander quack "engineer" to leave the site immediately. Not only did he commit fraud, he also asked me to do some things that were not needed to be done there that the whole carcass and other mistakes he made on reconstruction of my house cost me in the region of extra 480K+ because we had to tear down everything and start from scratch again. I was sending him pictures of house as the entire 579 square meter roof was torn down. As the carcass was going on, he called me gables needed to be done at the back and I told him no. My cousin called me and said gable was needed. I sent them 225K for gables and it tuned out the gable wasn't needed because the First Aluminum guys dismantled it during the tear down of roof carcass.

My point is, the nairalander accepted his was quack. He confessed to me he was only looking to feed his family. He has been a nairalnder since 2008 or so. As a matter of fact he begged me not to go public because his source of living would be dashed because it is on nairaland that he eats. In fact his wife is on nairaland too. He told me a whole bunch of things that I just pitied him and never opened a thread about him on nairaland. The guy never stopped begging me for more than two months. He kept apologizing.

Hajj is a witness. I believe I showed it to Skimanski too on BBM and segzy14 was there too. The guy never stopped texting me to apologize. He is still here on nairaland parading himself as an engineer and builder. I just shake my head when he comes on threads accusing others of incompetence.

You need to name and shame this "engineer".

No jokes bro. angry angry

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by babalose: 7:09am On Jun 18, 2016
@Brabus.....this openable buglary proof is a compulsion in every home. I believe that atleast one or two must be openable in a home and it must be easy to open by anyone in the house not like the types that have padlock. The sliding buglary doesn't look appealing to me too. That's why I am fascinated with this thread because of the wealth of information that flows through often. Keep the ideas flowing.


Babalose

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by back2sender: 7:19am On Jun 18, 2016
n3xt:
Openable Local Burglar Proof | Idea


Design by Breachwood Interiors
Brabus this is one of your best post that speaks to peoples needs here. Well done.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 7:57am On Jun 18, 2016
back2sender:

Brabus this is one of your best post that speaks to peoples needs here. Well done.

I know people don't need my chateau and dump truck story. More good to come.

Hajji Mufutau55, we need an "Idea and Inspiration" Thread where all we share and post there are ideas that people have vetted and Ok'd.


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mi amigos, how's Ibeju during the last rain? Let's start a new day with Ibeju, Lekki.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 10:27am On Jun 18, 2016
brabus:


I know people don't need my chateau and dump truck story. More good to come.

Hajji Mufutau55, we need an "Idea and Inspiration" Thread where all we share and post there are ideas that people have vetted and Ok'd.


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mi amigos, how's Ibeju during the last rain? Let's start a new day with Ibeju, Lekki.

I like the your chateau and dump truck story brother.. . Keep them coming, nice innovation by the way.

I think in construction we all have learning curve and we all strive to be better at what we do.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by babalose: 10:43am On Jun 18, 2016
To all the pros in the house.....Due to the waterlogged nature of the Lekki axis and the constant annual flooding that occurs in this terrain, do you think having a swimming pool in the house is a good idea, if it is,
what type of swimming pool will be ideal for a waterlogged land?
What's the best way to construct it so as to avoid it succumbing to flood?
What are the best ways to prevent it sinking due to the weight of the water in the pool?

Cc...abdulwastecx, aventures, brabus, joepoolwave, segcymoor, Skimanski, Spyder880, rotech77 and all other builders that might have skipped my mind.



Babalose
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 10:53am On Jun 18, 2016
mavverick:
I dont know much about the carcass foundation, maybe if you explain to me in lay mans terms.
Got to agree with the high pitch roof though, I think its a show off thing.

Lighting points: Got to agree 100% with this, I questioned this with my electrician so many times, I just feel the light points are too much. When its not a stadium being lit at night. I later got to understand that some of thier decisions are just the norm, and nobody questions it. What I did is buy the number of lighting points that I feel is right, and anything else can be blocked off with plastic. If a tenant wants light there, they can easily add it.

Excessive pop work: Do you mean window hood etc or ceiling pop. Personally, I do not like pop ceilings that are too busy, it becomes a distraction. I like simple and plain. A ceiling should not be drawing attention, instead I had spend the money on my walls and put a satin or silk paint.

External tiles: It cost money yes, but I find that the lower part of a house is the bit that gets stained the most. One solutoion I read about is grafitex, I just like the finish however I heard its not cheap. I could be wrong here.




I nearly missed this part sir. This is what I am trying to explain, when we build foundation for one storey building or some bungalows, we build it using isolated/combine and continuous footings together with strip to receive the foundation blocks. This strip now necessitate for foundation block which may be avoided totally. For most recent bungalows we have built, we end up spending about 400/500k for sub structural walls which can be eliminated completely if we vary the method a little bit.

The major importance of foundation or sub structural walls in a one storey building or bungalow are as follows :
To distribute dpc or oversite concrete wall to the soil below.
To act as brace and horizontal tie to the beams below.
To serve as retaining walls to filling for high foundation walls (those built above natural ground level.

A system of only isolated pad footings, foundation column to the building ground level (Natura ground level - vegetables soil above), a ground beam to link all the pillars sitting on grade. This grade beam height can vary depending on floor loads, ground floor wall load and the need to raise the ground floor above the natural ground level to control flood. In some cases, additional 2 blocks is positioned on top of this beam to Rais the level above the ground before filling and dpc are done.
Here is a summary of this type of foundation
1. Removal of loose vegetables soil to get to formation level.
2. Setting out and marking of column base to get the pad isolated pad, combined footings as the case at be.
3. Digging of only the position isolated pad footings.
4. Arrangements and placements of pad footings reinforcement and foundation columns.
5. Casting of isolated footings.
6. Formwork to foundation column up to level achieved in step 1.
7. Casting of these columns.
8. Filling of these isolated footings after curing for 2 days.
9. Setting out of these grade beams
10. Formwork to grade beams
11. Formwork to grade beams
12. Casting of grade beams.
13 addition of one or two courses of blocks as the case may be
13. Filling of foundation foundation
14 dpc or oversite concrete.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 10:55am On Jun 18, 2016
abdulwastecx:


I like the your chateau and dump truck story brother.. . Keep them coming, nice innovation by the way.

I think in construction we all have learning curve and we all strive to be better at what we do.

I'm waiting for lastpage or Egunmogaji for the Lekki Flood Design Considerations

Be ready to do some serious mathematical calculations when the discussion starts.

This is a case of going against the norm in a city that presently going under water.


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As per the chateau, dump truck and H52 story, I believe all of us in the construction industry needs to be challenged and to rise up from been a local champion.
Stories like this is meant to encourage builders to step out of their comfort zone and not to make others feel less like an unaccomplished individual. Neither is it a show off as many thought.

How would it sound if the Brabus youve been hearing of is operating from a Bukka. A Yoruba proverb says "Eni to maa d'aso fun ni, t'orun e la ma wo." Literally translated as "He who will dash one clothes, we must first observe what he's wearing himself."

Let this inspire you to be the best you can ever think of.

Looking back at when we started this struggle, I can only say it has been all good.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 11:07am On Jun 18, 2016
brabus:


I'm waiting for lastpage or Egunmogaji for the Lekki Flood Design Considerations

Be ready to do some serious mathematical calculations when the discussion starts.

This is a case of going against the norm in a city that presently going under water.

The issue is more complex than most people think.

Global warming, in adequate drain age system, sewage with lower capacity to carry the surface run off are some of the problem
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 11:17am On Jun 18, 2016
abdulwastecx:


The issue is more complex than most people think.

Global warming, in adequate drain age system, sewage with lower capacity to carry the surface run off are some of the problem

We are aware of the problem and the probable cause. I think we should be talking about fixes and solutions now.

And that's what I'm up for. I only need a catalyst or moderator for the discussion.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:26pm On Jun 18, 2016
abdulwastecx:


I nearly missed this part sir. This is what I am trying to explain, when we build foundation for one storey building or some bungalows, we build it using isolated/combine and continuous footings together with strip to receive the foundation blocks. This strip now necessitate for foundation block which may be avoided totally. For most recent bungalows we have built, we end up spending about 400/500k for sub structural walls which can be eliminated completely if we vary the method a little bit.

The major importance of foundation or sub structural walls in a one storey building or bungalow are as follows :
To distribute dpc or oversite concrete wall to the soil below.
To act as brace and horizontal tie to the beams below.
To serve as retaining walls to filling for high foundation walls (those built above natural ground level.

A system of only isolated pad footings, foundation column to the building ground level (Natura ground level - vegetables soil above), a ground beam to link all the pillars sitting on grade. This grade beam height can vary depending on floor loads, ground floor wall load and the need to raise the ground floor above the natural ground level to control flood. In some cases, additional 2 blocks is positioned on top of this beam to Rais the level above the ground before filling and dpc are done.
Here is a summary of this type of foundation
1. Removal of loose vegetables soil to get to formation level.
2. Setting out and marking of column base to get the pad isolated pad, combined footings as the case at be.
3. Digging of only the position isolated pad footings.
4. Arrangements and placements of pad footings reinforcement and foundation columns.
5. Casting of isolated footings.
6. Formwork to foundation column up to level achieved in step 1.
7. Casting of these columns.
8. Filling of these isolated footings after curing for 2 days.
9. Setting out of these grade beams
10. Formwork to grade beams
11. Formwork to grade beams
12. Casting of grade beams.
13 addition of one or two courses of blocks as the case may be
13. Filling of foundation foundation
14 dpc or oversite concrete.

I'm really looking forward to when you do an alternative building system.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 12:35pm On Jun 18, 2016
EgunMogaji:


Yes o.

But in the meantime I paid my suppliers ahead so I no hear story.
Lucky you. But still it's dicey. Cos like now all this nice ceramic bathroom ware in the UK to 9ja nah x500
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 12:37pm On Jun 18, 2016
In other news. I saw this just now as per metal structured buildings

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:38pm On Jun 18, 2016
erico2k2:

Lucky you. But still it's dicey. Cos like now all this nice ceramic bathroom ware in the UK to 9ja nah x500

My chief, una already dey look at bathroom wares shocked

It's good to be loaded o.

Oyel money speaking.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 12:45pm On Jun 18, 2016
EgunMogaji:


My chief, una already dey look at bathroom wares shocked

It's good to be loaded o. ;

Oyel money speaking.
Ahaha
Baba na Window shopping grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:47pm On Jun 18, 2016
erico2k2:
In other news. I saw this just now as per metal structured buildings

This is good stuff.

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