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Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by LoneRanger2: 2:55pm On Jun 25, 2016

kingdavid421:
Nigerians are really tougher than our challenges. I wonder how the so called leaders of tomorrow will come to the media and started typing nonsense about BMB's ordeal. we should realize that He's feeding more than 10000 Nigerians with the 11b loan.

So what about the people union bank sacked by his refusal to pay back the 11 billion naira he borrowed, who will feed them?

You can't create employment by indirectly throwing other employees out of their jobs by your actions or inactions.

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Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by george4CHRIST(m): 2:56pm On Jun 25, 2016

Are u one of his tenant or do you work with the eatery?You mourn more than the bereaved

Businessideas:
Thank God he didn't say he was being witch-hunted! He suddenly forgot that the indebtedness of irresponsible borrowers like him made Union Bank to sack more than 1000 workers greater number than the number of people he claims he is employing,as if the jobs of his workers is more important than that of people who got fired by union bank because of the mess he caused.
Thank God we are not in GEJ 's era, AMCON would never have gotten shishi from this cunning fox. Since last Friday that the court ruled on the AMCON takeover, he waited till almost a week before acting thereby disrupting the business of his tenants in Galleria. He should get ready to be sued and pay compensation to his tenants who pay a lot as rent and service charges. His irresponsible attitude cause them to lose money and business,imagine those eateries in the galleria and how most of their food would have been spoilt.

Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by Michael333: 2:57pm On Jun 25, 2016

[quote author=ijames post=46920020]This is crazy, you pay 1000 workers above minimum wage is that something to be proud of

We all know that minimum wage is 18k, which cannot even buy one bag of rice..smh

Pls shut up. Do u pay anybody?

Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by emerged01(m): 3:02pm On Jun 25, 2016

Hmm, he is now hiding under the excuse that he employed 1000,and forget that his inability to pay the loan has caused more damage to Amcon. PMB rides on!

Mynd44,you banned for 2 days for speaking the truth.

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Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by Istand4justice: 3:17pm On Jun 25, 2016

buharisbae:
wow this is like the best response I've seen indeed he is truly a common sense senator

well brown loofers I hope u are seeing this? hatred kills! BMB carry go nothing do you!

Why do u like masturbating on any thread containing BMB he's married u know....so look for better things to do

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Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by stildude(m): 3:21pm On Jun 25, 2016

It's a shame some Nigerians are mast. Ubating on the challenges of another. Buhari claimed to even borrow money to pay for his presidential form. So, no big deal about borrowing, in fact it is an essential aspect of nations economy or that of businesses. If you look into the matter properly, you may even find p that the man may have been cajoled or entreated into taking the money during the days of surplus. Unfortunately, the economy took a downturn later. Many business were hurt. He said the real estate arm is the one that has issue. Thank God for him. His assets, I am sure will cover his liability. Now in business, that is not that bad. Take Donald Trump for instance, at one time in his life he was literally on the edge. Even the bankers almost frustrated his come back, but alas he was able to negotiate a better deal and survived. Many people see him now as a super star. In Nigeria, because of differences of opinion and maybe sectional interests, some are quick to shame the good senator. My advice is that amcom should renegotiate the payment schedule instead of flexing muscles. Take the assets or even auction them, what will they do with the money? I can guess. One person from the govt, or the govt itself will quickly reach for it and it will be written into another expenditure list. Like the saying goes, owe the bank 1 million, you won't rest, owe the back 1 billion, the bank won't rest. Also, banks are the only sets that give you an umbrella when it is sunny and demands it when it is raining. I pray that the man and his family overcomes this challenge to become bigger and better. Now the rest of you haters will not gain from his woes. You won't even inherit the assets. Meanwhile, maybe someone somewhere close to you needs the business to go on.

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Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by chachanga: 3:22pm On Jun 25, 2016

Is he not better than AIT Group that's been notorious for chronic owing and highhandedness?!

People stupidly rejoicing at his downfall and now inability to sustain his over 1000 staff! B@stards who no get shishi dey rejoice say dem papa don fall, abi?!

Stupid goats Gloating on his downfall without considering all the macroeconomics of running business in Nigeria. Govt policies alone crippled a lot of businesses and sent many on to their early graves. What will you say to those foreigners who've left Nigeria then? Even the 1000plus staff, was there record of them complaining? Was it on record that he had been owing them before?! Even, the loan's on a repayment plan, only that they've not been able to meet up!

So far, i see that the chap's managed his multifaceted portfolio without fuss and the baddass Use&Condemn habit of a lot of other corporations run by taskmaster Jews, Crafty Chinkos, stingy Koreans and those abominably despicable Indians.

But what gets me is the unnecessary hating on the man.

FYI, for those of you on NL hating on him, 2 things are as certain as rain and sunshine:
1.He's gonna bounce back soon enough
2. You're gonna remain in your miserable poverty stricken life with only your "kickass ITEL China phone" and your Keyboard "NinjaWarrior" Battles on NL for company; welcome to your life!

Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by OrlandoOwoh(m): 3:23pm On Jun 25, 2016

Anybody that wants Buhari to fail will fail in anything they do. You can't plant corn and reap yam.

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Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by DICKtator: 3:23pm On Jun 25, 2016

LoneRanger2:
So what about the people union bank sacked by his refusal to pay back the 11 billion naira he borrowed, who will feed them?

You can't create employment by indirectly throwing other employees out of their jobs by your actions or inactions.

I find comments like this ridiculous! !!!.

Bank employees were sacked because he couldn't pay back loan he borrowed?
If I was sacked by Union Bank based on this, I would sue them because they would have to prove to me I was the account officer of the facility that did not monitor the account continuously, and that I was also the credit officer who did not perform due diligence, I would also be the bank manager of that branch where the financing contract was signed and authorise (if it were within my authorisation limit) and wait!!!. I would also be the regional manager who must approve such loan and the executive directors who would also know about the loan and the CEO who raises non performing loan at board meetings and discuss on strategies to adopt in recovering the loan with the risk management team.

Even the risk management should be sacked since they could not determine the credit worthiness of the applicant and if the said facility risk appetite would be favorable to the bank in the long run

grin

Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by Dom2020: 3:30pm On Jun 25, 2016

no wonder u succeed in all ur endeavors, u a have positive mind to succeed in d mist of adversaries. God bless u sir.

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Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by DICKtator: 3:32pm On Jun 25, 2016

But why are people amazed by this?
Have we all forgotten the AIT creditors siege on the broadcast station due to loans owed?

Harsh economic realities is affecting most companies that their projected repayment date has elapsed while inflation sets in.
This has led to default in loan repayments and increase in interest on loan at a geometric progression!!

This vicious circle is mainly caused by government monetary and fiscal policies, political like war,coup d etat and other factors I cannot think of now!!!

grin

Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by SlimShaddy10(m): 3:38pm On Jun 25, 2016

jollymizzle:
At least we go hear word.imagine the common sense peddler who happens to be short on common sense.who dey ask you story?and to the people praising him,what should he have said.let me guess he is another hero for accepting he didn't pay his debt? Lmao you people should be wiser,he would have cost people their savings and jobs.and what happened after he was bailed out? He still couldn't service his debts.

haters will fail. don't gloat at sb's failure.

Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by felifeli: 3:45pm On Jun 25, 2016

Jorussia:
In developed countries tax evasion is a very serious crime unlike here where it is not taking seriously. He is even trying to blackmail the govt with is 1000 staff strength as if those affected by his indebtedness is not far more than that.

Please tell us more about the developed countries . Apparently you've lived there all your life. wink

Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by felifeli: 3:49pm On Jun 25, 2016

chachanga:
Is he not better than AIT Group that's been notorious for chronic owing and highhandedness?!

So far, the chap's managed his multifaceted portfolio without fuss and the baddass Use&Condemn habit of a lot of other corporations run by taskmaster Jews, Crafty Chinkos, stingy Koreans and those abominably despicable Indians.

But what gets me is the unnecessary hating on the man.

FYI, for those of you on NL hating on him, 2 things are as certain as rain and sunshine:
1.He's gonna bounce back soon enough
2. You're gonna remain in your miserable poverty stricken life with only your "kickass ITEL China phone" and your Keyboard "NinjaWarrior" Battles on NL for company; welcome to your life!

[size=14pt]THANK YOU. THEY DON'T REALISE[/size][size=8pt][/size]

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Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by Charmarlegne: 4:09pm On Jun 25, 2016

Businessideas:
Thank God he didn't say he was being witch-hunted! He suddenly forgot that the indebtedness of irresponsible borrowers like him made Union Bank to sack more than 1000 workers greater number than the number of people he claims he is employing,as if the jobs of his workers is more important than that of people who got fired by union bank because of the mess he caused.
Thank God we are not in GEJ 's era, AMCON would never have gotten shishi from this cunning fox. Since last Friday that the court ruled on the AMCON takeover, he waited till almost a week before acting thereby disrupting the business of his tenants in Galleria. He should get ready to be sued and pay compensation to his tenants who pay a lot as rent and service charges. His irresponsible attitude cause them to lose money and business,imagine those eateries in the galleria and how most of their food would have been spoilt.

Word!!!

Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by Ghost01(m): 4:12pm On Jun 25, 2016

Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by Ghost01(m): 4:13pm On Jun 25, 2016

This man is funny. He took loans amount to N11bn a decade ago, refused to service the loans and is now telling us that he employs 1000 persons and pays them above the minimum wage. Shoro niyen? We are talking N11bn here o, not N11 million. He should better go and settle his debts. They will be feeding fat on other people's money while the rest of us languish in ....

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Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by Orikinla(m): 4:13pm On Jun 25, 2016

Businessideas:
Thank God he didn't say he was being witch-hunted! He suddenly forgot that the indebtedness of irresponsible borrowers like him made Union Bank to sack more than 1000 workers greater number than the number of people he claims he is employing,as if the jobs of his workers is more important than that of people who got fired by union bank because of the mess he caused.
Thank God we are not in GEJ 's era, AMCON would never have gotten shishi from this cunning fox. Since last Friday that the court ruled on the AMCON takeover, he waited till almost a week before acting thereby disrupting the business of his tenants in Galleria. He should get ready to be sued and pay compensation to his tenants who pay a lot as rent and service charges. His irresponsible attitude cause them to lose money and business,imagine those eateries in the galleria and how most of their food would have been spoilt.

Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by tbliss22(m): 4:25pm On Jun 25, 2016

Wow, this man's response to questions thrown at him just changed my thought about him.

He's indeed a perfect gentle man. It's truly unfair to rejoice over his temporary issues, and according to him its a loan to set up businesses that gave jobs to over 1000 jobless Nigerians.

I wish him all the best as he gets off this unfriendly present moments.

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Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by Idrismusty97(m): 4:31pm On Jun 25, 2016

bejeiodus:
Ben is more than a man. He accepted the fate that befell him with equanimity without blaming some imaginary enemies....Those who have been making snide remarks about this minor setback are in for a rude shock. A hen that has not died will still eat many corns.

For your mind you don drop one confirm proverb now, You dey feel like Pete Edichie cheesy

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Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by spiralwedge(m): 4:33pm On Jun 25, 2016

Businessideas:
Thank God he didn't say he was being witch-hunted! He suddenly forgot that the indebtedness of irresponsible borrowers like him made Union Bank to sack more than 1000 workers greater number than the number of people he claims he is employing,as if the jobs of his workers is more important than that of people who got fired by union bank because of the mess he caused.
Thank God we are not in GEJ 's era, AMCON would never have gotten shishi from this cunning fox. Since last Friday that the court ruled on the AMCON takeover, he waited till almost a week before acting thereby disrupting the business of his tenants in Galleria. He should get ready to be sued and pay compensation to his tenants who pay a lot as rent and service charges. His irresponsible attitude cause them to lose money and business,imagine those eateries in the galleria and how most of their food would have been spoilt.

God bless you.

Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by arsenal33: 4:40pm On Jun 25, 2016

DICKtator:

Considering the ruptured economy we have today and most state governors claiming they can't pay workers the same minimum wage despite the federal allocation they get and internally generated revenue, I believe it is something BMB should beat his chest about!!!.

I am not a fan of his, but hey!! Cut him some slack!!!!

Loan taken in 2005 -2007. He didn't pay back any shishi in the PDP years (when the economy was booming)
make he dey Fool Himself commonly!

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Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by Nobody: 4:51pm On Jun 25, 2016

The guy had to be interviewed on Twitter, that's his Senatorial District sha cheesy

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Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by Etinosajay(m): 5:12pm On Jun 25, 2016

Ekugbeh:
hw much do u think doz union bank staff r paid?

How can you even ask a question like that?

Gosh

So now you want to say Ben bruce's company pays better salary than Union bank, so it's okay if Union bank sacks 1000 or more workers.

Are you kidding me?

God

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Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by Etinosajay(m): 5:18pm On Jun 25, 2016

kingdavid421:
Nigerians are really tougher than our challenges. I wonder how the so called leaders of tomorrow will come to the media and started typing nonsense about BMB's ordeal. we should realize that He's feeding more than 10000 Nigerians with the 11b loan.

Point of correction. He's aim for starting a business is profit. If he wants to feed people, they don't have to work for him. That's philanthropy.

You think if he doesn't make profit, he will continue the business? Heck he even meant to double his profit, that's why he borrowed.

I can't understand how you people can justify such actions.

For the record, I am not against him for borrowing, but he must pay back. Any business needs loans to survive. There are many SME's who really grow the economy, but can't get loans because big men like Ben Bruce won't pay back what they borrowed.

Are you not a business person? Or do you not have friends or relatives doing business? Ask them if they won't like to get loans from the bank.

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Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by lebete3000: 5:19pm On Jun 25, 2016

buharisbae:
wow this is like the best response I've seen indeed he is truly a common sense senator

well brown loofers I hope u are seeing this? hatred kills! BMB carry go nothing do you!

Very cool calm and collected response...

BMB shouldn't mind senseless and shameless pipu.

Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by defash8: 5:52pm On Jun 25, 2016

I wonder why people still complain, he collected loan & he defaulted then AMCON came in, he is not really owner of the company until he finish paying his obligation but now that AMCON has entered the whole story he is releived of the whole saga.

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Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by lawbabs: 6:16pm On Jun 25, 2016

stefan388:
Am so happy that Buhari will have no oppurtunity to trace or link his property to the arm deal. Anything more than this Buhari will instruct Magu to link this loan to Dasuki's arm deal as his trying to do to Fayose.

“Because of a mere N11 billion debt, AMCON/Buhari and APC want to take over Silverbird”
“Buhari is simply going after his political enemies to silence them”
“The takeover of Silverbird is purely political witch-hunt”
“Is Ben Bruce the only person who owes money in Nigeria?”
“Dangote owes N209 billion but Bruce owes only N11 billion, yet Dangote is walking free”
"In fact, Buhari is a tyrant, Buhari is a dictator, a Hilter, a devil, a destroyer, we want freedom, bla bla bla…."

These are the sort cringe inducing statements spewed into cyberspace since yesterday by ‘the usual suspects,’ most of whom are supposed to be the so called leaders of tomorrow. 99% of the people spewing these thing have no clue what it means to service a loan, neither do they have a clue how AMCON operates.

They have also intentionally turned a blind eye or are just plainly ignorant of the fact that Ben Bruce is not the first person to have his business possessed; a mere application of the Common Sense which Mr Bruce has been trying hard to impart on these folks should have told them that bad loans have nothing to do with Buhari or APC or PDP or religion or region.

Just last month, AMCON possessed the business of Alhaji Sani Dangote (Bulk Pack Services Ltd) for bad loans; Sani Dangote is the younger brother of Alhaji Aliko Dangote. We did not hear this senseless cry of Buhari Buhari Buhari!!
http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/05/26/amcon-takes-over-sani-dangotes-asset/
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/05/debt-recovery-amcon-takes-dangotes-bulk-pack-services-ltd/

Just 3-4 days ago, this same AMCON also repossessed properties of Mr Jimoh Ibrahim due to a defaulted N50 billion loan, they even went further to freeze his accounts. We also did not hear any shouts of Buhari!
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/06/n50bn-debt-amcon-takes-jimoh-ibrahims-firms-freezes-bank-accounts/

Many other takeovers have been undertaken by AMCON in recent times from Bacita Sugar to G. Cappa to Bi-Courtney to Aero to Arik etc, most of these bad loans were bought by AMCON when they took over failed banks. All these happened under Yaradua, GEJ and then Buhari and never for once have we ever heard of people accusing the president for these, but now we have the Buhari hate factor.

It is sad to note how the reasoning of Nigerian youths have been so degraded; everything these days is viewed as witch-hunt, assault, attack, oppression and marginalisation even when glaring evidence proves otherwise. A lot of our folks need to emancipate themselves from this mental slavery.

Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by Optionalx: 6:36pm On Jun 25, 2016

Businessideas:
Thank God he didn't say he was being witch-hunted! He suddenly forgot that the indebtedness of irresponsible borrowers like him made Union Bank to sack more than 1000 workers greater number than the number of people he claims he is employing,as if the jobs of his workers is more important than that of people who got fired by union bank because of the mess he caused.
Thank God we are not in GEJ 's era, AMCON would never have gotten shishi from this cunning fox. Since last Friday that the court ruled on the AMCON takeover, he waited till almost a week before acting thereby disrupting the business of his tenants in Galleria. He should get ready to be sued and pay compensation to his tenants who pay a lot as rent and service charges. His irresponsible attitude cause them to lose money and business,imagine those eateries in the galleria and how most of their food would have been spoilt.

You're just a mumu PHD (pull him down) zombie looking for "likes" you have enough now, oya go convert them to dollars lol

U sabi pass union bank mgt that agreed with his business propositions and possible profits to both parties b4 the deal. The man said business is bad due to bad economy u didn't want to hear dt or you haven't seen business fail before. Your type even 11 naira overdraft from any bank takless of loan. Then GEJ part, ifeanyi uba capital oil was taken over by AMCON in 2013. If know who ifeanyi uba is, and when amcon was established notice your level ignorance and stupidity.

Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by wirinet(m): 6:54pm On Jun 25, 2016

O boy, see common sense.

Question; Can you give us some background on AMCON's takeover of Siverbird's assets yesterday?

Ben Bruce; Those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!

Question; What are your final thoughts on the AMCON issue?

Ben Bruce; Those who say i stole money to set up business can see it was a loan taken as far back as a decade.

Mr Common sense, please answer the Damn questions.

Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by vislabraye(m): 8:57pm On Jun 25, 2016

Businessideas:
Thank God he didn't say he was being witch-hunted! He suddenly forgot that the indebtedness of irresponsible borrowers like him made Union Bank to sack more than 1000 workers greater number than the number of people he claims he is employing,as if the jobs of his workers is more important than that of people who got fired by union bank because of the mess he caused.
Thank God we are not in GEJ 's era, AMCON would never have gotten shishi from this cunning fox. Since last Friday that the court ruled on the AMCON takeover, he waited till almost a week before acting thereby disrupting the business of his tenants in Galleria. He should get ready to be sued and pay compensation to his tenants who pay a lot as rent and service charges. His irresponsible attitude cause them to lose money and business,imagine those eateries in the galleria and how most of their food would have been spoilt.

You don't even know the terms and conditions the loan was given, yet you are accusing him of mismanagement. undecided

Re: ‘those Celebrating My Downfall Celebrated Too Soon!’ – Ben Murray-bruce by totorimi: 9:08pm On Jun 25, 2016

emmykk:

bros did you understant all the amcon and seizure thing before displaying ignorant.did he told you that buhari caused it.

he took loan,set up a business,could not pay loan,amoc bought the loan over.that iw amoc paid uba the money with a profit gain,then amoc took over the business.

if the business assets of the business not up to 11billion amoc would not have bought the loan over.

so where did his critizism of GMB become the cauuse of his downfall.....and how did gmb caused it for him?

sometimes you guys comment sound idiotic

Look at this one, so you dont understand all these hand writings on the wall. So who controls/owns AMCON. Is Ben Bruce the only one who is owing yet AMCON looks the other way. Have you forgotten Sanusi and the AMCON Bank take over, have you forgotten that Unity Bank upon all their financial position was spared the axe. Look my friend this our country is the more you look the less you see. If you dont understand how govt silences people come i will teach you. Govt has all the machinery of state at their disposal to deal with anyone as far as the person leaves in this country.

Anyway whether you like it or not whether it is coming directly from Buhari or not, I know his direct criticism of the lack lustre governance of the present govt is responsible for his present travails. I tell you if he pledges allegiance to the czar today today and switch to APC his sins will be forgiven.

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