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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 4:18pm On Jun 30, 2016
dopeJemi:


Buahahahhaahahahaha grin grin grin

Are you asking me? Okay, Tell me the criteria you used just now to determine the mediocrity of the Epl

Have you noticed a pattern here bro? First the guy quickly jumps in to make crash assertions. After he gets found out using his logic, he will resort into asking one questions like we were the people who gave him the set of standard he chose to use in the first place.

I called him dayos follower and he vehemently denied it. Where dayo would have used his tortoise sense to craft out unreasonable response,draw out another discourse entirely to distract one from the main issue at hand,our Oge Ade will be busy acting like Akpos... angry
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 4:25pm On Jun 30, 2016
dopeJemi:


Buahahahahahahahahahaaha grin grin grin grin

Why you discard everything like that? Let's continue with what we were doing na

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Abeg no give dayo room to escape please. Though I dey aware say him fut untie himself from a spiders net. cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dopeJemi: 4:26pm On Jun 30, 2016
diggz:


Have you noticed a pattern here bro? First the guy quickly jumps in to make crash assertions. After he gets found out using his logic, he will resort into asking one questions like we were the people who gave him the set of standard he chose to use in the first place.

I called him dayos follower and he vehemently denied it. Where dayo would have used his tortoise sense to craft out unreasonable response,draw out another discourse entirely to distract one from the main issue at hand,our Oge Ade will be busy acting like Akpos... angry

Hahaha grin grin he did it with me just now, Dayo is a clown I swear cheesy

As for our oga here, na trap he don enter so, I just dey chill dey wait
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dopeJemi: 4:27pm On Jun 30, 2016
diggz:



Abeg no give dayo room to escape please. Though I dey aware say him fut untie himself from a spiders net. cheesy

Dayo don run since na, you suppose know am, watch him come back with a different argument entirely
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 4:40pm On Jun 30, 2016
dopeJemi:


Hahaha grin grin he did it with me just now, Dayo is a clown I swear cheesy

As for our oga here, na trap he don enter so, I just dey chill dey wait

Dayo get mad skills for being mischievous. His online personality reminds me of OBJ... cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:11pm On Jun 30, 2016
diggz:


Dayo get mad skills for being mischievous. His online personality reminds me of OBJ... cheesy
lwkmd. Una no go kill person. I neva for my life see person like dayo. The worst is that he is very good at what he does. Mehn, dat man is an asset.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lalaboi(m): 5:26pm On Jun 30, 2016
lordfalcao:
name a proven striker that 33m will get in this current transfer era.

I be scout?

You miss the point. .

Add Seven more million and you will get you a proven scorer. who wants to spend 33 on an average joe on the back of one good season?

Higuan,
Aubumenyang. [if gundogan can move for under 30 and Henrikh Mkhitaryan is being estimated to worth about 34, its feasible, only stumbling block is the fact the there is no champions league for Chelsea)

The more feasible proven ones
Icardi
Heck if we want something from the French league so bad, Lacazette has done in consistently for 2 seasons posting 20goals +

If only they had put a buy back clause as at Lukaku's sale, what is a Bashuayi compared to lukaku? hes even benching him at country level.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 5:43pm On Jun 30, 2016
lalaboi:


I be scout?

You miss the point. .

Add Seven more million and you will get you a proven scorer. who wants to spend 33 on an average joe on the back of one good season?

Higuan,
Aubumenyang. [if gundogan can move for under 30 and Henrikh Mkhitaryan is being estimated to worth about 34, its feasible, only stumbling block is the fact the there is no champions league for Chelsea)

The more feasible proven ones
Icardi
Heck if we want something from the French league so bad, Lacazette has done in consistently for 2 seasons posting 20goals +

If only they had put a buy back clause as at Lukaku's sale, what is a Bashuayi compared to lukaku? hes even benching him at country level.

I feel Michy go surprise you.

He looks like my kind of striker.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 5:55pm On Jun 30, 2016
lalaboi:


I be scout?

You miss the point. .

Add Seven more million and you will get you a proven scorer. who wants to spend 33 on an average joe on the back of one good season?

Higuan,
Aubumenyang. [if gundogan can move for under 30 and Henrikh Mkhitaryan is being estimated to worth about 34, its feasible, only stumbling block is the fact the there is no champions league for Chelsea)

The more feasible proven ones
Icardi
Heck if we want something from the French league so bad, Lacazette has done in consistently for 2 seasons posting 20goals +

If only they had put a buy back clause as at Lukaku's sale, what is a Bashuayi compared to lukaku? hes even benching him at country level.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 5:55pm On Jun 30, 2016
lalaboi:


I be scout?

You miss the point. .

Add Seven more million and you will get you a proven scorer. who wants to spend 33 on an average joe on the back of one good season?

Higuan,
Aubumenyang. [if gundogan can move for under 30 and Henrikh Mkhitaryan is being estimated to worth about 34, its feasible, only stumbling block is the fact the there is no champions league for Chelsea)

The more feasible proven ones
Icardi
Heck if we want something from the French league so bad, Lacazette has done in consistently for 2 seasons posting 20goals +

If only they had put a buy back clause as at Lukaku's sale, what is a Bashuayi compared to lukaku? hes even benching him at country level.
40 mill can not get higuan ,aubemeyang forget mhiki he is not a center forward...

Batshu over icardi any day any time... This deal is good.. He is not playing UCL next season. Lacazette will not come forget it.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:04pm On Jun 30, 2016
Michy is better than Lacazette for a lone striker role.

Michy holds the ball up well, dribble in tight spaces and good with his back to goal.

Lacazette doesn't have that

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 6:07pm On Jun 30, 2016
Ibime:


No. The development squad is strictly the remit of the TD in any club in the world.

Some of us were hoping that the likes of Ake and MVG stick around long enough for preseason so Conte can see them, assess them and make a decision on them. The decision has been taken out of his hands.

Conte is sitting in his hotel room somewhere prepping for Germany match, and all he would know about this is that Chelsea has one small boy on loan at Watford last season and now he has been loaned to Bournemouth.

Do you think Conte can assess or know the 50+ players we have out on loan? This is where the likes of Rumennige and co show the difference between a good TD and Aba made TD. They can recognise quality in likes of Alaba, Lahm, Kroos etc from Bayern academy to let a manager know he has strong options, meanwhile Chelsea managers are working blindly with a TD who doesn't know his right from left.

If Sam Allardyce walks into Lazio today, he cannot tell you jack about one Florenzi that Lazio will have out on loan to Genoa.

Those who are with the club are guardians of the club and (should) know the players values better than anyone walking in.

The TD has essentially told us he considers Rahman to be a better player than Ake whereas some of us believe that Ake is a better player than Rahman, Mikel and can even fill a gap at LCB if Conte wants to go with a back three.

You can bet that Conte considers left-back and midfield a problem position at Chelsea, yet never once has Emenalo thought to put the clubs internal LB and CM options up as at least a squad filler consideration. Instead he is thinking how to loan them out. Obviously in his questionable judgement, he considers Rahman and Mikel better options.

Look Chelsea are not going to sign 11 new players for Conte this summer, we will only get 4 or 5. Which means the Baba Rahmans stick around in the squad when the likes of Ake could have done so.

This is shocking stewardship by Emenalo.

To me, this is just sounds like another case of commending the manager for transfers you like, while blaming Emenalo for those transfers you disagree with.

If we take at face value that Conte has not had the chance to look at the team and evaluate the squad yet, then how does he know that he needs Batshuayi? Or Naingollan?

It is important to note that other than Ake, none of the other members of the bloated loan battalion have left the club this season.

No outward loans, No outward sales. Just Ake. As of now, it looks like a specific decision was made on Ake, rather than the usual en masse dispersal of players.

So how do you know that Conte did not make the decision to let Ake go?

The answer is that you don't.

Tyrone Mings did his ACL in his first game for Bournemouth last year, and they currently have only 1 undisputed 1st choice left back in Charlie Daniels.

Bournemouth are not a feeder club. They made about 50m in revenue last year, and will be making a minimum of 45m from TV revenues alone this year.

They could have made an enquiry to CFC, details of which were forwarded on to Conte alongside scouts notes and clips in action. Conte could have looked at the info he had, and decided that maybe the boy would benefit from 1 extra year...and then sent him out.

Another thing is that Bournemouth are owned by Russian Oligarchs. Maxim Demin is Russian an also in thr Petrochemical business. They might know each other...they may be friends even. Maxim could have simply asked Roman to loan him one of his boys.

Thsee scenarios are also quite possible.

Without actually knowing the in and outside of the deals, it's impossible to say that Conte is responsible for Batshuayi and Emenalo is responsible for Akes departure.

Nobody really knows.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chestar5(f): 6:25pm On Jun 30, 2016
Michy chose chelsea without champions league football over spurs with it....whayasay# cheesy....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:47pm On Jun 30, 2016
SIRcumalot:

you know say if Wales do mistake carry this thing this your 7days shitposting spree go look like childsplay?

How Wales go take concern EPL when the player carrying all the load is playing in Madrid
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:59pm On Jun 30, 2016
Chestar5:
How is bpl over-rated and ow is budesliga better than epl?...

Some argument sha, when was d last time another club apart from bayern won d ligue sef angry......

BPL is forever better than bundesliga although i m forever crushin on thomas muller embarassed.....

Bundesliga is better than EPL because UEFA ranking says so

Bundesliga dominated teams have won trophies for their NT and een recognized as top scorer at world cup EPL tll me the last time

In recent times, No EPL player makes top 5 in Balon d or

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:01pm On Jun 30, 2016
dopeJemi:
Buahahahahahahahahahaaha grin grin grin grin

Why you discard everything like that? Let's continue with what we were doing na

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This is what matters

UEFA ranking and how players from your league performs at the world cup

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SIRcumalot: 7:25pm On Jun 30, 2016
raumdeuter:


How Wales go take concern EPL when the player carrying all the load is playing in Madrid
no worry,make them win the trophy first
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 7:28pm On Jun 30, 2016
Nihilist:

They could have made an enquiry to CFC, details of which were forwarded on to Conte alongside scouts notes and clips in action. Conte could have looked at the info he had, and decided that maybe the boy would benefit from 1 extra year...and then sent him out.

That is what you wished happened, but that is not what happened.

You mean Conte would leave Euro work and scouting of Spain and Germany, to study game tapes of Ake? Where they do that at? grin

As you can see, Italy is very well drilled to the minute detail in this tournament - that's not because Conte is spending his time studying Chelsea youth players!!!


Tell me how long it takes to study 2 hour tapes of 50 players on loan. You must be joking if you think Conte is studying and making judgements on the first team squad and development squad whilst juggling managing Italy.

This is the kind of situation where the TD makes recommendation to the first team coach.

Weren't you the one who showed us Emenalos job profile showing us he is in charge of development squad? Is Conte's job title not "first team coach": - actually, the first time a Chelsea manager has had his job role reduced to "First team coach" only.

So we should go looking for "First team coach" who hasn't started work yet to blame him for a wrong decision on a "development" player?

Nihilist:

Conte could have looked at the info he had, and decided that maybe the boy would benefit from 1 extra year

Emenalo decided to send the boy on one extra year. No ifs, and, or but. Conte may know about it BUT IS IN NO POSITION to know the worth of the player having just walked in the door. Emenalo knows the player, Conte does not.

This is where we know we have a stewpid TD because Rahman is the one who needs extra year decades. What are you sending a nigga on loan for when he is better than all your current options?

Infact Chelsea quoted Watford £10m to sell the boy outright.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Lana1(m): 7:30pm On Jun 30, 2016
Chestar5:
Michy chose chelsea without champions league football over spurs with it....whayasay# cheesy....
Batshuayi rejects Spurs for Chelsea. Fabregas rejects Arsenal return for Chelsea. Vardy rejects Arsenal. Mkhitaryan rejects Arsenal for United.

Those two North London clubs are useless!!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:41pm On Jun 30, 2016
diggz:


You are a confused being am sorry to say.

First you were clear about harry not being a world class because he his yet to play a cl game. I then asked if saurez could be regarded as a world class since he never played a cl game with Liverpool before you guys bought him and you response was, Yes!

Since the bone of contention here is playing in the CL,then why rate Suarez as world class before he joined barca and Kane not as one?


I was never going to do this but, since you have chosen to constitute a nuisance here, can you tell us why we should not regard Spain as overrated since they got well trashed by unknown Italian players from a substandard league like seria A(according to your flawed logic) and were subsequently dumped out of the euros at the same stage with an overrated English squad?

Kindly do not refer me to your great grand fathers,just try to answer my questions directly this time around.

Thank you sir.

I think u r d confused one, or shud i say forgetful. Didn't Suarez play in the CL while he was in Ajax?? Besides, playing in the CL is jus one ov my criterias. His honors, goals and achievements b4 comin to barca were very enough for one to call him a world class player. Harry keane hasnt evn won the PFA yet.. Suarez led Ajax to winning the league title in 2009 while he was the captain.

Talking abt the spanish team, U dey mind them?? Buahahahahaha!! grin . Iniesta, Ramos, Pique' Fabregas and co paid their dues while they were still as young as ur overrated dele alhi, keane, smalling, sterling etc.

They won the Euros in 2008, won the world cup in 2010, also won the Euros again in 2012... So na only them waka come abhi?? I wasn't evn bothered at their elimination at all. These guys have tried and are already getting old.

Stop comparing those young English players to the legendary spanish players.. Let them go and win their own too jus like iniesta and co won theirs wen they were still very much young as the present English players.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:52pm On Jun 30, 2016
dopeJemi:


Buahahahhaahahahaha grin grin grin

Are you asking me? Okay, Tell me the criteria you used just now to determine the mediocrity of the Epl


1. Performance in the CL and EL

2. Consistency in Europe.

3.Classes ov players in the league

4. Winning rate of the teams in Europe
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 8:04pm On Jun 30, 2016
Lewandodo ti ki si
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dopeJemi: 8:08pm On Jun 30, 2016
TRendlona:



1. Performance in the CL and EL

2. Consistency in Europe.

3.Classes ov players in the league

4. Winning rate of the teams in Europe

1. England has performed better than germany in CL

2. England has more consistency than germany in Europe, by Europe you mean CL and EL right?

3. Mahrez, kante, payet, sanchez, ozil, martial, de gea, fabregas, all these are tutorials of players in the league

4. ------1 and 2
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 8:09pm On Jun 30, 2016
Ibime:


That is what you wished happened, but that is not what happened.

You mean Conte would leave Euro work and scouting of Spain and Germany, to study game tapes of Ake? Where they do that at? grin

As you can see, Italy is very well drilled to the minute detail in this tournament - that's not because Conte is spending his time studying Chelsea youth players!!!


Tell me how long it takes to study 2 hour tapes of 50 players on loan. You must be joking if you think Conte is studying and making judgements on the first team squad and development squad whilst juggling managing Italy.

This is the kind of situation where the TD makes recommendation to the first team coach.

Weren't you the one who showed us Emenalos job profile showing us he is in charge of development squad? Is Conte's job title not "first team coach": - actually, the first time a Chelsea manager has had his job role reduced to "First team coach" only.

So we should go looking for "First team coach" who hasn't started work yet to blame him for a wrong decision on a "development" player?



Emenalo decided to send the boy on one extra year. No ifs, and, or but. Conte may know about it BUT IS IN NO POSITION to know the worth of the player having just walked in the door. Emenalo knows the player, Conte does not.

This is where we know we have a stewpid TD because Rahman is the one who needs extra year decades. What are you sending a nigga on loan for when he is better than all your current options?

Infact Chelsea quoted Watford £10m to sell the boy outright.


You may be right or you may be wrong.

I read an interview with Ake discussing his promotion from the u21s to the first team. He said that he was playing and training hard with the first team but could not get a chance. He said that he went up to Mourinho to ask why he wasn't getting a chance in the first team, but Jose said he had to wait for his chance....shortly after, he was sent on loan.

This story does not match up with the narrative of the 'stewpid TD' failing to recommend the talent at the club to the manager. He was clearly revommend to Jose.

Eddie Howe's interview today was quite interesting. He explains that Bournemouth signed Ake due to his versatility. He highlights the fact that Ake played 28 games at LB for Watford, but points out that Ake's best position is in central midfield.

This could suggest that the boy has been sent out to develop further as a midfielder. Considering that we are definitely in the market for midfielders, it's very possible that Conte has already evaluated him and found him wanting - Afterall, why would Conte be chasing the likes of Naingollan if he hadn't already evaluated the quality of midfielders already on ground?

Anyway, let's leave it here abeg. I have no appetite for another long debate tonight.

You may very well be right sef, so....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kolade354(m): 8:27pm On Jun 30, 2016
Nihilist:
Lewandodo ti ki si
ororo to rescue portugal
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:29pm On Jun 30, 2016
Nihilist:
Lewandodo ti ki si
grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 8:36pm On Jun 30, 2016
Renato Sanches clap back.

These one go still fight for dressing room.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:37pm On Jun 30, 2016
LOL

2 Bayern players score hmm

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chestar5(f): 8:45pm On Jun 30, 2016
raumdeuter:


Bundesliga is better than EPL because UEFA ranking says so

Bundesliga dominated teams have won trophies for their NT and een recognized as top scorer at world cup EPL tll me the last time

In recent times, No EPL player makes top 5 in Balon d or

it is actually bayernliga anyway

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:48pm On Jun 30, 2016
Chestar5:

it is actually bayernliga anyway

You dey see two Bayernliga players just score now

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 8:48pm On Jun 30, 2016
raumdeuter:
LOL

2 Bayern players score hmm
Raumdeuter this shii is getting boring, how about the German game where Ozil assisted Bastian to score in a bundesliga dominated team. Does that make EPL better?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 8:48pm On Jun 30, 2016
I wonder if Ronaldo sold all his skills to the gods of football in exchange for goals

These days the guy is all about movement and finishing.

No takeons or drimbles anymore

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