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richardohiemi:
smh what's the difference between specialist and consultant?,your making unnecessary noise...besides have you not heard of community medicine?you talking abt drs being restricted to academics and hospitals.?..your view seems apparently myopic..there is no field with greater diversity than medicine...be it in the laboratory,be it in the community,be it in ngos,be it in Military...my beloved op to compare and contrast between medicine and pharmacy is a folly on it's own!...The logo is "nulli secundus"..second to none...in terms of remuneration...be rest assured you will be well comforted when you dive into the seas of medicine...the difference between you and the society will be quite clear once you start your nysc!....lets save the banter

Bla Bla Bla.You aren't making any sense bro.So a specialist is the same as a consultantLol,apparently,you have no iota of idea about what you're saying.Just explicate on the rationale why it's better and stop.hauling unnecessary jibes.

*Comparison BTW pharmacy and medicine is a folly on its own*Only a shallow minded and primitive mind will utter such word bro.
I see,More reason they go on strike for d sake on relativity in terms of salary compared to other health workers..
*Second to none* lwkmd..I've had enough of it bro..

Op stop comparing salary earners with business men..

frenchwine:
where is my mat?
Mr IZANAMI pls kindly take down the post you made above, especially the bolded highlighted by efriday. It is totally incorrect and grossly misleading.
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.@op Asssmasher I think you're really getting your priorities wrong. If you're entering the medical profession for money, then you're surely starting on a wrong footing, with a wrong motive and could end up frustrated even before you get halfway in through your journey as a med/pharm student.
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To answer your question directly, if you really wanna make this money, your best bet is to be a Pharmacist.
You ask me how I know, that's cos I'm a doctor.

OK sir!! A sincere mind is speaking.

Asssmasher:
I'm in a state Of limbo presently,by that,I mean I'm in a Confused Swamp of dilemma.
I just Finished with SLT in a Federal polytechnic,I'm very confused about the course to study.I have 2 courses in mind which are ;Medicine and pharmacy.


I like both courses but I wanna be rich,,,I mean I wan make this moneyyy...
I have passion for both courses but I have to know which one is more lucrative.
Forget the passion talk shii,,I'll definitely survive if I go through any of the two despite the level of rigor.I'm 100% sure of that.

Just illuminate d dark in respect to which of the two earn biggerAbeg!!!!
No unnecessary admonitions..
No matter how zenithal the height of passion one has for a course,one has to consider the lucrativeness. No be our fault,Na naija cause am...

You want to make serious money? Add a lucrative business to whatever you finally decide to study

IZANAMI:
Mr asssmasher,it depends on the angle you're looking at it from.
If it's within the hospital settings,a doctor's pay will definitely outweigh that of a pharmacist but the same can't be said outside d hospital for a pharmacist coz the pay far outweighs that of a doctor depending on the perspective again.Mind you,before you can enjoy the middlingly big pay as a doctor,you'll have to go for residency and that's nothing less than 6years after which you'll then start off as a junior registrar and that's nothing below 240k.
Consultants are being paid 700k to A million plus depending in the field.Million plus can only be paid for the dreaded fields like neurosurgery unlike internal medicine,orthopaedics and d likes and mind you,it'll take you more than 2decades before you can attain ds rank.
Obviously,you can only become a registra(250k) after like 12-15yrs I.e 6yrs(degree)+1yr(horsemanship)+1yr(service)+nothing less than 5yrs residency if you're lucky,some use more than 8yrs in d program. It isn't easy..
The entry level for pharmacists straightaway post nysc is 160k-170k thereabout while it's like 180-200+ for Medical officers.For doctors who do not go for residency,the pay isn't much attractive coz dey get paud just like other civil servants with little difference.More than 70% of d doctors you see arent specialist,only a little percentage is.That's the bitter truth.
That's d reason a greater percentage of them are left frustrated owing to d fact they only studied it for d sake of job security and prestige.If you have passion for it,you'll make it...

Outside the hospital settings,Pharmacists are regarded as big Men that's depending on the field,in industries,They can serve as Med rep for multinational companies,most pay from the range of 200-300k or even higher for entry level e.g gsk,sanofi aventis,reckitt,benkiser,drugfield,novartis and d likes.With time depending on how well you meet your targets,you can rise through ranks to a senior rep,production manager and a regional manager.
Senior reps earn like 300-500+ depending on d company.
Ass.Production manager earns more than 500+-600
Production manager earns more than 600+
Regional manager earns more than 1M to even 2M depending on d company.
Those figures are for multinationals not for locals Pharm companies.

In community settings,they can make sales of 300+ depending on the location.
I've once worked as a locum for a community Pharm and they make sales of 400-700+ weekly depending on how fast d sales Boom.That's like 3times d salary of a registrar in less than a week.Sometimes,it might not b this high but it can never be below 200+ weekly.Sometimes more than 1M in less than 3days because it's business.
Obviously, that's d rationale why pharmacist aren't willing to work.in hospital coz there are opportunities for 'em to explore.

And as a pharmacist, you can easily set off a business of your own.

well done..uv hit the nail on the head....im a practicing Pharmacist....and all uv said are true.

Doubleagent008:
oga if it is money that you are looking for, forget medicine there is no money in that field as much as people think. A young guy in other fields has a potential of getting richer than an average doctor on a long run.
So very well, if it is money Medicine can't do it. especially if u compare the amount of work u have to put into it before the 'big' money u will get comes, mehn u are better off selling cement, real estate and other budding fields but pharmacy won't be a bad idea too.

Gbam! !!!

Asssmasher:
I'm in a state Of limbo presently,by that,I mean I'm in a Confused Swamp of dilemma.
I just Finished with SLT in a Federal polytechnic,I'm very confused about the course to study.I have 2 courses in mind which are ;Medicine and pharmacy.


I like both courses but I wanna be rich,,,I mean I wan make this moneyyy...
I have passion for both courses but I have to know which one is more lucrative.
Forget the passion talk shii,,I'll definitely survive if I go through any of the two despite the level of rigor.I'm 100% sure of that.

Just illuminate d dark in respect to which of the two earn biggerAbeg!!!!
No unnecessary admonitions..
No matter how zenithal the height of passion one has for a course,one has to consider the lucrativeness. No be our fault,Na naija cause am...

None of them ever gets rich, try politics n thank me later
Dora akunyili or Chris ngigie were nt rich until they joined politics

rotimileke:
you're a prime suspect. The medical and dental council of Nigeria should come for you.

Happpy comin o

frenchwine:
where is my mat?
Mr IZANAMI pls kindly take down the post you made above, especially the bolded highlighted by efriday. It is totally incorrect and grossly misleading.
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.@op Asssmasher I think you're really getting your priorities wrong. If you're entering the medical profession for money, then you're surely starting on a wrong footing, with a wrong motive and could end up frustrated even before you get halfway in through your journey as a med/pharm student.
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To answer your question directly, if you really wanna make this money, your best bet is to be a Pharmacist.
You ask me how I know, that's cos I'm a doctor.

Liar... U r a pharmacist!!. My cousin did a CS for 600k, wen I asked why i was told d least u get is 300-1M+. Depending on d private hospital. Some private hospital can do about 15 a month. Just organize a lil theater if u can't do it, u employ d help of an obstetrician n both will split d cash. Dats for just CS... At least dats wat I no. Moreover u don't really need a pharm certificate to run a pharmacy, d chemist pple r in serious competition wit the road side pharmacist. But both med and pharm r both lucrative depending on ur hustling ability... But I will go for medicine.

Efriday1:
The bolden statements are grossly incorrect and completely misleading. Beware never make comments about something of which you are not well enlightened on. For example medical programme is 6yrs to become a doctor, 1yr housejob, 1yr youth service, 4-6 years training as a resident makes you a consultant. A consultant is a doctor at the Peak in his chosen discipline just like a PhD holder, but unlike the PhD I think you can only be a consultant in 1 field of medicine only.
Residency implies training to become a consultant similar to post graduate programmes, but unlike the postgraduate training a resident is paid by the government throughout the period of training which is NORMALLY 4-6 years. A junior resident is a doctor who IMMEDIATELY after nysc is contracted to train with a certain hospital, commonly a federal hospital, as a pg student. U can liken him to a masters student if you want, but mind you he is paid. There is senior residency level of course which I'll like you to liken to a PhD student for clarity sake. There are several exams in this process, but I'll not bore you with them.
Now to the point of frustration. I'll just ask you Mr zealous, is there a worker that is never promoted, especially when he has a certificate as precious as the mbbs? Once you are employed with a certificate you get promoted until you reach the highest level available to your certificate and mbbs can take you very far in the civil service for instance, tho you can never become a consultant unless you train. You talking about pharmacists earning big outside hospitals, what about doctors don't they earn big outside the hospital too? As a doctor you are a first class citizen and that ticket alone can take you very far in politics, or business..

Okay, let the crossfire works begin. Docs vs Pharms

CHANNELStv2020:
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Asssmasher:
I'm in a state Of limbo presently,by that,I mean I'm in a Confused Swamp of dilemma.
I just Finished with SLT in a Federal polytechnic,I'm very confused about the course to study.I have 2 courses in mind which are ;Medicine and pharmacy.


I like both courses but I wanna be rich,,,I mean I wan make this moneyyy...
I have passion for both courses but I have to know which one is more lucrative.
Forget the passion talk shii,,I'll definitely survive if I go through any of the two despite the level of rigor.I'm 100% sure of that.

Just illuminate d dark in respect to which of the two earn biggerAbeg!!!!
No unnecessary admonitions..
No matter how zenithal the height of passion one has for a course,one has to consider the lucrativeness. No be our fault,Na naija cause am...

guy as I dey see this your post,my instinct tell me say na money ritual you go do last

Efriday1:
The bolden statements are grossly incorrect and completely misleading.

You should have quoted only the boldened part, instead of the whole, long comment. Just as I have done; I didn't have to quote the unnecessary portions of your comment that I am responding to. Let's make Nairaland cleaner.

Pharmacist.

newecop:
Liar... U r a pharmacist!!. My cousin dis a CS for 600k, wen I asked why i was told d list u get is 300-1M+. Depending on d private hospital. Some private hospital can do about 15 a month. Just organize a lil theater if u can't do it, u employ d help of an obstetrician n both will split d cash. Dats for just CS... At least dats wat I no. Moreover u don't really need a pharm certificate to run a pharmacy, d chemist pple r in serious competition wit the road side pharmacist. But both med and pharm r both lucrative depending on ur hustling ability... But I will go for medicine.

CS for 600k? you aren't talking to an ignorant mind you know,CS can never be above 50K bro...
*You don't need a pharmacy cert to run a pharmacy*
You're very very ignorant bro.Don't blurt bullshit on what you know nothing about.I won't indulge in unnecessary admonitions coz I'm you aren't an enlightened mind bro..

IZANAMI:
OK then.
*As a doctor,you're a first class citizen*
Lol,,That's more like a misleading conjecture basically because it's an ethical perception,an enlightened mind would apparently know that's completely wrong.
I'm also aware of that fact you do write some exams before getting promoted,My question is, How many of 'em do get promoted?How many consultants do we have?A lot find it difficult to reach the peak of their career,More reason why we have a lot of Medical officers in hospital these days.A lot even find it hard to become a specialist talkless of being a consultant.The thing about Medicine is you have to posses an enormously great passion for d course if you wanna enjoy it else you'll be frustrated and disappointed.


Don't doctors earn big outside hospitals too
You're misquoting me bro,how many doctors do we have outside hospital?
Unlike a doc who's only limited to d hospital,a pharmacist can venture into pharmaceutical industries or retail pharmacy,he's free to pick from being a clinical,industrial,community or academic pharmacist.the same can't be said for a doctor apparently.(Acads and clinics)
As far as I'm concerned about politics,anyone can venture into that provided he has the chutzpah and passion for it.How many Docs do we have in d house of assemblies?Majority are just Mallams,chiefs, honorables and Alhajis.Lol!!!!!
Peace bro!!

Medicine is a very Noble profession bro.
But there's actually more to it than meets d eye.
Thanks for d enlightenment though.

Don't be deceived! pharmacists earn more compared to doctors. I know of a pharmacists that get close to 2.8 million monthly on the average. which doctor earns that in Nigeria?

Asssmasher:
I'm in a state Of limbo presently,by that,I mean I'm in a Confused Swamp of dilemma.
I just Finished with SLT in a Federal polytechnic,I'm very confused about the course to study.I have 2 courses in mind which are ;Medicine and pharmacy.


I like both courses but I wanna be rich,,,I mean I wan make this moneyyy...
I have passion for both courses but I have to know which one is more lucrative.
Forget the passion talk shii,,I'll definitely survive if I go through any of the two despite the level of rigor.I'm 100% sure of that.

Just illuminate d dark in respect to which of the two earn biggerAbeg!!!!
No unnecessary admonitions..
No matter how zenithal the height of passion one has for a course,one has to consider the lucrativeness. No be our fault,Na naija cause am...

Go for medicine, since you have passion and mental capabilities for both. In Nigeria, the Doctors head the health sector if not na wahala. Any time the Minister of Health is not a Medical Doctor, the Medical Doctors will always go on strike.

As a Medical Doctor, you will be able to set up your own business and also "encroach" on others in health sector. In your hospital, you can have pharmacy, laboratory etc, however, as a Pharmacist you can't open a clinic in your pharmacy.

So I am of the view that if you want to practice in Nigeria, then medicine is it.

iceberryose:
To me a pharmacist makes more. The only reason is because i am an aspirant...

What kind of fallacy is this?

osabuohein:
excuse me why are you mentioning my moniker only to insult me? Do you have a problem with me or do you have something against me? What sort of nonsense is this?

Hey,i'm not trying to insult you but the idiot (asssmasher) who created this thread asking which course should he choose between medicine and pharmacy. I have nothing against you bro.

what happened to studying for passion? that's why so many quacks are chun out on a yearly basis. almost everybody is for the money, tell me why our politicians wouldn't go to where they would get value for their money

Bro u wanna study medicine or pharmacy with SLT? bro go check ur brochure how do u wanna study medicine or pharmacy wit SLT. microbiology biochemistry or science related courses

IZANAMI:
Bla Bla Bla.You aren't making any sense bro.So a specialist is the same as a consultantLol,apparently,you have no iota of idea about what you're saying.Just explicate on the rationale why it's better and stop.hauling unnecessary jibes.

*Comparison BTW pharmacy and medicine is a folly on its own*Only a shallow minded and primitive mind will utter such word bro.
I see,More reason they go on strike for d sake on relativity in terms of salary compared to other health workers..
*Second to none* lwkmd..I've had enough of it bro..

smh apparently you don't know that a consultant and a specialist are the same thing?? ...and you want me to argue with you? ...haba bros!!...park well

Please anybody with idea of how much pharmacy interns are paid in Abuja? National hospital or House of Assembly clinic

richardohiemi:
smh apparently you don't know that a consultant and a specialist are the same thing?? ...and you want me to argue with you? ...haba bros!!...park well

Blood of Zechariah!I need doctors in d house to enlighten this shallow mind pls.
Or better still go to d doctors forum and see where your ignorance lies.You have to become a specialist b4 being a consultant.olodo!!

frenchwine:
where is my mat?
Mr IZANAMI pls kindly take down the post you made above, especially the bolded highlighted by efriday. It is totally incorrect and grossly misleading.
.
.@op Asssmasher I think you're really getting your priorities wrong. If you're entering the medical profession for money, then you're surely starting on a wrong footing, with a wrong motive and could end up frustrated even before you get halfway in through your journey as a med/pharm student.
.
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To answer your question directly, if you really wanna make this money, your best bet is to be a Pharmacist.
You ask me how I know, that's cos I'm a doctor.

Please how can someone make money from pharmacy? My sister just finished from pharmacy. She is presently looking for internship


BTW, Please, who knows the hospital / Clinic / company that pay pharmacy interns most and how much?

amzee:
Hey,i'm not trying to insult you but the idiot (asssmasher) who created this thread asking which course should he choose between medicine and pharmacy. I have nothing against you bro.

ok bro. I was beginning to wonder before. Anyway no problem boss.

vision202020:
Please how can someone make money from pharmacy? My sister just finished from pharmacy. She is presently looking for internship


BTW, Please, who knows the hospital / Clinic / company that pay pharmacy interns most and how much?

How someone can make money from pharmacy?That's one of d most irritating question I've ever seen.I wouldnt go tru d rigor of typing notes,tell ur sis to go make enquiry from pharmacists.She can go work as a locum pharmacist in a community pharmacy pending the time she gets placement for her internship.The pay depends on d location.
Pharmacy interns earn more in National e.g orthopaedic hospitals in abuja and neuropsychiatric hospitals(130-150K) compared to teaching hospitals(mostly around 120-130k)Companies do not pay much for interns.A little above 90k for multinationals coz they do not value them...
FMC in Abeokuta pays above 148k,it was higher than this before ipps started.
If she's after d pay,let her go to hospitals,probably national,neuropshychiatric,teaching hospitals or medical centres.No hospital pays below 100k for a pharmacy intern.
Besides, it should be easy for her to get placement as a pharmacy,the docs are d ones who find it difficult to get placement bcoz they're much.

If you want money, go and do any of these: ritual, cocaine, steal/robbery, oil bunkering or politics. You will be highly disappointed if u enter any of those professions because of money. You can't have equal passion for both courses. I once wanted so much money, wanted to be a pharmacist n own my Company after seeing many rich Pharms but at d end i followed my passion n that keeps me going n gives me d joy i need. I save lives. Ask God for direction n check what your heart is at peace with, God will bless u in it. Dont make money d first priority

newecop:
Liar... U r a pharmacist!!. My cousin dis a CS for 600k, wen I asked why i was told d list u get is 300-1M+. Depending on d private hospital. Some private hospital can do about 15 a month. Just organize a lil theater if u can't do it, u employ d help of an obstetrician n both will split d cash. Dats for just CS... At least dats wat I no. Moreover u don't really need a pharm certificate to run a pharmacy, d chemist pple r in serious competition wit the road side pharmacist. But both med and pharm r both lucrative depending on ur hustling ability... But I will go for medicine.

C.S even in Aso rock, Maitama and Garki doesn't cost up to a 100k.
you don't need a B.pharm to run a pharmacy? why not give it a trial! only then you will know.

You don't study medicine for money. I don't know about pharmacy so go for pharmacy. Medicine is about life's first and no committed doctor can end up poor. I can attest to that

IZANAMI:
How many Doctors own a private practice??Very few.That's if you have enough money to set up.

Private practice is not necessarily owning a hospital. Doctors consult for private hospitals and individuals. If you tell me they don't get paid as hard as they work, I'll concur.

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IZANAMI:
OK then.
*As a doctor,you're a first class citizen*
Lol,,That's more like a misleading conjecture basically because it's an ethical perception,an enlightened mind would apparently know that's completely wrong.
I'm also aware of that fact you do write some exams before getting promoted,My question is, How many of 'em do get promoted?How many consultants do we have?A lot find it difficult to reach the peak of their career,More reason why we have a lot of Medical officers in hospital these days.A lot even find it hard to become a specialist talkless of being a consultant.The thing about Medicine is you have to posses an enormously great passion for d course if you wanna enjoy it else you'll be frustrated and disappointed.


Don't doctors earn big outside hospitals too
You're misquoting me bro,how many doctors do we have outside hospital?
Unlike a doc who's only limited to d hospital,a pharmacist can venture into pharmaceutical industries or retail pharmacy,he's free to pick from being a clinical,industrial,community or academic pharmacist.the same can't be said for a doctor apparently.(Acads and clinics)
As far as I'm concerned about politics,anyone can venture into that provided he has the chutzpah and passion for it.[b]How many Docs do we have in d house of assemblies?[/b]Majority are just Mallams,chiefs, honorables and Alhajis.Lol!!!!!
Peace bro!!

Medicine is a very Noble profession bro.
But there's actually more to it than meets d eye.
Thanks for d enlightenment though.

Obviously your perception is lopsided. Tho I wanted to indulge you to wallow in the ignorance, my conscience is pricking me that you are going malignant with this ill enlightenment. You think doctors are limited to the hospitals yet you never said pharmacists are limited to drugs! All the diverse areas you claimed yo mentioned for the pharmacy stuff have something to do with drugs- meaning pharmacists are limited to drugs. You mentioned community pharmacists who are most likely drug sale representatives, and who most likely claim to know as much as the doctor in those communities until complications arise of course, but you seemed never to have heard of community medicine and preventive health experts who have special budgets from the government and international organisations. You have told us how much sale rep pharmacist of different cadres earn, but you never mentioned how much a cmd earns. You never seemed to be aware that a non lawyer can never become a chief justice or minister of justice. You also have not given it a thought that a sizeable number of Nigerian pastors with large followership are doctors. Can you Beat that What about NASS? Do you know how many doctors are in there? Have you checked? You argue blindly Bro when you dispute the first class citizen stuff. The truth is Nigeria is a jungle, and becoming successful does not depend on your course of study, but different courses give different fighting chances. #teammedicine#