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Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by planetuzor(m): 10:24pm On Jul 03, 2016
Pls what's ur thought on this?

One major reason I never saw anything good about Babatunde Fashola is because throughout his 8 years in power he consistently undermined and abused the poor. He treated the poor like trash.

Ambode appears determined to follow the same path. That is a sad shame because I thought he would be different.

I simply cannot accept the way those Nigerian politicians continue to treat the poor. My mother sold goods on the streets of Lagos to send me through medical school. She peddled wares at Ojuwoye market. Wares that she had to collect on credit. I lived through abject poverty.

I knew many folks who were in similar circumstances, who later rose to achieve something meaningful in life.

I went to Unilag and met many children of the rich as well. None of them can look me in the eyes today and tell me I am not a match, in education, in social status or whatever classification. But my mother sold wares in Ojuwoye market and around the streets of Lagos.

I am frustrated with the way we treat the poor in Nigeria. I get really furious and extremely bitter. What do you want them to do? To go and die? There's no social welfare, no housing, no free anything. You kept pushing them further and further into poverty. Why are you people so callous? What exactly is your problem? Is there no other way to accommodate these extremely poor people amongst you?

My son recently entered a Grammar School in the UK. I went for the induction and sat there with all the proud parents of the so-called smartest kids all over the country; 80% of them are middle class white folks. Even right there the Chairman of the PTA was telling us about how they have second-hand school uniforms for those who cannot afford new school uniforms. I was wondering how anyone there could possibly be hard up. These are mostly middle-class folks. But the issue is they have a system that is always looking out for those who may be struggling. They never assume that everybody is fine. This is a school where virtually everything is free except your school uniform and the food. Yet, they still make provision for parents who may be unable to afford a mere £100 to buy all the various school equipment.

We need to condemn these irresponsible politicians. To be poor is not a sin. Why do they think they have to punish the poor for being poor?

The new law in Lagos which criminalises being poor is a terrible indictment of a system that is terribly insensitive. Lagos does not belong to the rich only. Ah, why can't these rich people live and let others live too?


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Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by Flexherbal(m): 10:28pm On Jul 03, 2016
The writer has a point.
Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by Nairalanddiary: 10:30pm On Jul 03, 2016
You have to understand that BRF and Ambode are both Elitists, they are very Anti-poor. While i like and respect some of their policies, i believe strongly that any society that treats its poor and weak as second class citizens does not undertand what Government stands for. God Bless.

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Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by Nobody: 10:34pm On Jul 03, 2016
The best thing for these guys to do is to go on cart

Bicycles more like

But I heard the LASG is trying to come up with alternatives tho
Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by chachanga: 10:38pm On Jul 03, 2016
They were not in the interested in the welfare of the people from the very start. The were more after wresting power away from their political opponents and serving "Party Interest".

And now that we're in the thick of things, the first interests they get to jettison is that of the masses!!
Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by SLIDEwaxie(m): 11:58pm On Jul 03, 2016
chachanga:
They were not in the interested in the welfare of the people from the very start. The were more after wresting power away from their political opponents and serving "Party Interest".

And now that we're in the thick of things, the first interests they get to jettison is that of the masses!!
chai, who come do u this way? Must everything be abt party?

Chai, life no treat u fine o

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Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by PhilemonObende: 12:08am On Jul 04, 2016
Mr OP, The poverty-stricken 'sophisticated ones' whose mothers are dying on rice and beans queues will pretend they've eaten today and call you a 'gala seller' who should pack out of lagos if you are not ready to stop hawking. Yet, their mothers hawked lacasera and yoyghut bus stops before dying on rice queues on sunday.
grin grin grin
Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by asala1: 1:15am On Jul 04, 2016
I don't get your point. Do you mean people should be allowed to sell on the road. Lagos has population of about 20million people, a large fraction of that are poor. If everyone is allowed to sell things on the road, you won't be able to get to work. Compare the chaotic Oshodi to the present relatively organized Oshodi with free flowing traffic and better security. There are a lot of people hustling in Lagos who I believe have no business living there.

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Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by Amberon: 2:47am On Jul 04, 2016
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Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by Amberon: 2:59am On Jul 04, 2016
Are you attributing the traffic jams which are obviously caused by narrow, insufficient and delapitated roads to be caused by street hawking?

Are you even okay? Nigga Nigeria is a third world country. A vast majority of its citizens are poor and the recent economic woes has just further plunged millions into abject poverty.

The reason you don't see hawking in the U.S is because it is a rich country and because an average american is rich as opposed to an average Nigerian. Hawking will naturally phase out when we play our cards right. You cannot just come up with such laws especially in this era of recession. Too many people are broke and our government does absolutely nothing for its citizens.

Do you expect those hawkers to resort to crime?
asala1:
I don't get your point. Do you mean people should be allowed to sell on the road. Lagos has population of about 20million people, a large fraction of that are poor. If everyone is allowed to sell things on the road, you won't be able to get to work. Compare the chaotic Oshodi to the present relatively organized Oshodi with free flowing traffic and better security. There are a lot of people hustling in Lagos who I believe have no business living there.
Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by Nobody: 4:57am On Jul 04, 2016
I think it's time people start realizing that lagos is like a country in Nigeria where other vices in other states won't be tolerated. Nigeria has 36 states and as a citizen you are free to live in any of the remaining 35 States if hawking is your destiny. Most people living in Lagos have no business there. Most Nigerians see lagos as a greener pasture or mini London hence they relocate there with little money and resources with which they can thrive in more economic friendly cities to suffer for nothing. How do you explain youths leaving the southeast en-mass with the hope of selling gala and lacasera in traffic all in the name of living in Lagos? How do you explain northerners leaving there states only to come to lagos with the hope of begging and sleeping under bridges? Go back to your state if you can't cope with the directives of the lagos state government. For the fact that your parents raised you to become a doctor through selling wares on the streets doesn't make Street hawking right. No sane society allows such menace to thrive. If the hawker that was crushed by a BRT bus happened to be your family member, i guess you won't fault this policy. Living in Lagos is not by force, go back to wherever you come from. undecided

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Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by adjoviomole(m): 6:59am On Jul 04, 2016
The elites keep making laws that will affect the poor. They build mega plazas and chase away poor women selling tomato n pepe etc, telling them to goan rent shops. This so called plaza's or modern market built are so expensive, so how do u want the poor to survive?.....I just hope to be the president of this country some day, I hate seeing ppl suffer.
Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by chachanga: 9:10am On Jul 04, 2016
SLIDEwaxie:
chai, who come do u this way? Must everything be abt party?

Chai, life no treat u fine o

I'll pass on ur slight!

Burr, dont you think, by now, we ought to be beyond the stage where we still deny the fact that Nigerians are now just maximizing the impact of their power to choose who governs them?!. Quite a lot was vested in Party politics before.

It wouldn't have mattered much all the good he wanted to do or how unsuited for the job he was; if the Party wanted him there and was sufficiently strong enough to push him in, he'd have gotten into office.

D'you think people would've voted him in if he revealed these aspects of his policies?! No?! But, what else could prevented him from coming clean if not the need to win at any cost and the will of the party?!
Anyone voting Trump in US knows already what they're getting before hand BuT what do you get in Naija; is it not politicians in Agbada promising heaven and earth before office and not fulfilling once in power?!

The crisis on ground has various factors predicating it and even in getting them off the streets, poverty alleviation measures ought to be instituted for soft landing.

Beyond that, me I nor know wetin dey shrink your life as you implied o!
Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by ajasa4link: 10:26am On Jul 04, 2016
Hawking in traffic in its entirety is illegal and very dangerous. It beats me how the government is trying to prevent avoidable deaths, yet some educated peeps still want it to continue all in the name of claiming the economy is bad. For God sake, peddling wares at ojuwoye market is quite different from selling gala on ikorodu road. nobody will stop you from peddling wares in a market, but selling in the traffic exposing yourself and other road users to danger should be highly condemned.

By the way, before someone comes here and start saying am an elitist who never knew what the hustle was like, bear in mind am someone who worked as a service boy/caterer throughout my schooling days, so I know what it feels like to hustle.

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Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by ckmayoca: 10:29am On Jul 04, 2016
Hawking on road, begging, cleaning of windscreen should all be stopped in the whole of Nigeria. Those kids and beggers on wheelchairs could get injured or killed.
Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by asala1: 2:06am On Jul 05, 2016
Amberon:
Are you attributing the traffic jams which are obviously caused by narrow, insufficient and delapitated roads to be caused by street hawking?

Are you even okay? Nigga Nigeria is a third world country. A vast majority of its citizens are poor and the recent economic woes has just further plunged millions into abject poverty.

The reason you don't see hawking in the U.S is because it is a rich country and because an average american is rich as opposed to an average Nigerian. Hawking will naturally phase out when we play our cards right. You cannot just come up with such laws especially in this era of recession. Too many people are broke and our government does absolutely nothing for its citizens.

Do you expect those hawkers to resort to crime?

What are you saying? If you have to break the law to survive in a place, then you don't belong there. There is no justification for that! Who is comparing U.S to Nigeria?

BTW, what has third world has to do with the economy and poverty level of Nigeria? Nigga!

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Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by MIKOLOWISKA: 5:35am On Jul 06, 2016
planetuzor:
Pls what's ur thought on this?

One major reason I never saw anything good about Babatunde Fashola is because throughout his 8 years in power he consistently undermined and abused the poor. He treated the poor like trash.

Are they not behaving like trash

Ambode appears determined to follow the same path. That is a sad shame because I thought he would be different.

Why fix our if it ain't broke

I simply cannot accept the way those Nigerian politicians continue to treat the poor. My mother sold goods on the streets of Lagos to send me through medical school. She peddled wares at Ojuwoye market. Wares that she had to collect on credit. I lived through abject poverty.
Eggs she is lucky does not mean every one will be

I knew many folks who were in similar circumstances, who later rose to achieve something meaningful in life.

And none of them had deemed it for help their fellow hawkers or of the mess with all the success that they claim
Fake success

I went to Unilag and met many children of the rich as well. None of them can look me in the eyes today and tell me I am not a match, in education, in social status or whatever classification. But my mother sold wares in Ojuwoye market and around the streets of Lagos.
You still think like a poor man so no you do not possess the same education status or classification

I am frustrated with the way we treat the poor in Nigeria.
What have you done to alleviate their poverty
I get really furious and extremely bitter.yet have made no move to help them out of the poverty


What do you want them to do? not throw problem


To go and die?
Natural selection
Sad but true

There's no social welfare, no housing, no free anything.
No free lunch any where my brother
The poor pay a very high price for so called few stuff in America and UK (high crime, children condemned to poverty,)

You kept pushing them further and further into poverty. Why are you people so callous?

Called survival of the fittest
What exactly is your problem?
His 135million nairaland is his problem

Is there no other way to accommodate these extremely poor people amongst you?

The poor bed to choose with sense instead of seeking their birthright for beans pot

My son recently entered a Grammar School in the UK. I went for the induction and sat there with all the proud parents of the so-called smartest kids all over the country; 80% of them are middle class white folks. Even right there the Chairman of the PTA was telling us about how they have second-hand school uniforms for those who cannot afford new school uniforms. I was wondering how anyone there could possibly be hard up. These are mostly middle-class folks. But the issue is they have a system that is always looking out for those who may be struggling. They never assume that everybody is fine. This is a school where virtually everything is free except your school uniform and the food. Yet, they still make provision for parents who may be unable to afford a mere £100 to buy all the various school equipment.

Nothing is free in life
You pay either with your taxes or your bent back of eternal servitude

We need to condemn these irresponsible politicians. it's the viewers that are irresponsible



To be poor is not a sin. Why do they think they have to punish the poor for being poor?
No one punished them they publish themselves

The new law in Lagos which criminalises being poor is a terrible indictment of a system that is terribly insensitive. Lagos does not belong to the rich only. Ah, why can't these rich people live and let others live too?

It doesn't criminalize poverty
It criminals street hawking

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Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by MIKOLOWISKA: 5:36am On Jul 06, 2016
chachanga:
They were not in the interested in the welfare of the people from the very start. The were more after wresting power away from their political opponents and serving "Party Interest".

And now that we're in the thick of things, the first interests they get to jettison is that of the masses!!
why should they care about ppl that don't care about them themselves
Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by MIKOLOWISKA: 5:50am On Jul 06, 2016
Amberon:
Are you attributing the traffic jams which are obviously caused by narrow, insufficient and delapitated roads to be caused by street hawking?

Hawking causes drivers to slow down causing traffic

Are you even okay? Nigga Nigeria is a third world country. A vast majority of its citizens are poor and the recent economic woes has just further plunged millions into abject poverty.

It will make them view with sense next election

The reason you don't see hawking in the U.S is because it is a rich country and because an average american is rich as opposed to an average Nigerian. the reason is because you will be started for Hawking without a permit


Hawking will naturally phase out when we play our cards right.

Come to New York you go see hawking enough
There will always be poverty
Hawking will never naturally phase any where
Only law enforcement can ensure that

You cannot just come up with such laws especially in this era of recession. Too many people are broke and our government does absolutely nothing for its citizens.


Why do anything for citizens who sell their vote for cups of rice and integrityless individuals election after election

Do you expect those hawkers to resort to crime?
they need to adapt or jailed or killed
Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by Pavore9: 5:51am On Jul 06, 2016
Allowing people to hawk on the major roads should not be interpreted as a Government who cares for the poor.
Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by MIKOLOWISKA: 5:54am On Jul 06, 2016
adjoviomole:
The elites keep making laws that will affect the poor.

The poor keep voting for these elite and donating their money to them

They build mega plazas and chase away poor women selling tomato n pepe etc, telling them to goan rent shops.

Why don't they strive for higher class after 66 years
[/b]This so called plaza's or modern market built are so expensive, so how do u want the poor to survive?....
[b]
By thinking and asking questions till they get answers to those questions

.I just hope to be the president of this country some day, I hate seeing ppl suffer.
hope will not get you there same as hope causes poverty

Only concerted action will
Action
Not words
Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by adjoviomole(m): 9:34am On Jul 06, 2016
MIKOLOWISKA:
hope will not get you there same as hope causes poverty

Only concerted action will
Action
Not words


I will try my best to go for it den. But nigerians most of d time are the cause of their problems. And I fear for my life.
Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by MIKOLOWISKA: 9:48pm On Jul 06, 2016
adjoviomole:



I will try my best to go for it den. But nigerians most of d time are the cause of their problems. And I fear for my life.
if armed robber rapist kidnapper let you know he is coming for you, would you abandon your home and family? Be a man. They don't have two heads. Stand your ground or continue to grovel all the days of your life. Choice is yours.
Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by Amberon: 8:31am On Jul 07, 2016
Break what law sir? Since when did hawking become a crime in Nigeria if not yesterday?

Third world meaning that hawking is prevalent in every third world country. Hawking and poverty is synonymous. There is no hawking where is no poverty. If not for decades of corruption, Nigeria would have gone beyond this stage. What do you want those masses to resort. They lack the finances to rent shops for trading.
asala1:


What are you saying? If you have to break the law to survive in a place, then you don't belong there. There is no justification for that! Who is comparing U.S to Nigeria?

BTW, what has third world has to do with the economy and poverty level of Nigeria? Nigga!
Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by StOla: 9:06am On Jul 07, 2016
Amberon:
Break what law sir? Since when did hawking become a crime in Nigeria if not yesterday?

Third world meaning that hawking is prevalent in every third world country. Hawking and poverty is synonymous. There is no hawking where is no poverty. If not for decades of corruption, Nigeria would have gone beyond this stage. What do you want those masses to resort. They lack the finances to rent shops for trading.


Anyone should be able to hawk wares in residential neighbourhood streets. Any hawking on roads that should normally have heavy traffic must be made a criminal offence. It will be for the good of the potential hawker and for the motorists plying the roads.

I wonder if a hawker sets himself in your path and dies from the impact of the collision, would you still think hawking is acceptable while a mob set you and your vehicle ablaze for driving legitimately on a legitimate road?

And I believe hawking has been a crime since ages ago, and not just yesterday.

The government is not supposed to lose rationality just to appear populist.
Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by fuckpro: 11:26am On Jul 07, 2016
planetuzor:
Pls what's ur thought on this?

One major reason I never saw anything good about Babatunde Fashola is because throughout his 8 years in power he consistently undermined and abused the poor. He treated the poor like trash.

Ambode appears determined to follow the same path. That is a sad shame because I thought he would be different.Nigeria leaders and society are mainly hypocrites Angels on Sundays and Fridays Demons on other days no real concern for others except during electioneering and to gather cheap popularity on social media this country has no future

I simply cannot accept the way those Nigerian politicians continue to treat the poor. My mother sold goods on the streets of Lagos to send me through medical school. She peddled wares at Ojuwoye market. Wares that she had to collect on credit. I lived through abject poverty.

I knew many folks who were in similar circumstances, who later rose to achieve something meaningful in life.

I went to Unilag and met many children of the rich as well. None of them can look me in the eyes today and tell me I am not a match, in education, in social status or whatever classification. But my mother sold wares in Ojuwoye market and around the streets of Lagos.

I am frustrated with the way we treat the poor in Nigeria. I get really furious and extremely bitter. What do you want them to do? To go and die? There's no social welfare, no housing, no free anything. You kept pushing them further and further into poverty. Why are you people so callous? What exactly is your problem? Is there no other way to accommodate these extremely poor people amongst you?

My son recently entered a Grammar School in the UK. I went for the induction and sat there with all the proud parents of the so-called smartest kids all over the country; 80% of them are middle class white folks. Even right there the Chairman of the PTA was telling us about how they have second-hand school uniforms for those who cannot afford new school uniforms. I was wondering how anyone there could possibly be hard up. These are mostly middle-class folks. But the issue is they have a system that is always looking out for those who may be struggling. They never assume that everybody is fine. This is a school where virtually everything is free except your school uniform and the food. Yet, they still make provision for parents who may be unable to afford a mere £100 to buy all the various school equipment.

We need to condemn these irresponsible politicians. To be poor is not a sin. Why do they think they have to punish the poor for being poor?

The new law in Lagos which criminalises being poor is a terrible indictment of a system that is terribly insensitive. Lagos does not belong to the rich only. Ah, why can't these rich people live and let others live too?


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Re: Callousness Of Lagos State Governors -being Mean To The Poor by asala1: 5:12pm On Jul 07, 2016
Amberon:
Break what law sir? Since when did hawking become a crime in Nigeria if not yesterday?

Third world meaning that hawking is prevalent in every third world country. Hawking and poverty is synonymous. There is no hawking where is no poverty. If not for decades of corruption, Nigeria would have gone beyond this stage. What do you want those masses to resort. They lack the finances to rent shops for trading.

Hawking, same as stealing, murder, armed robbery is against the law in Lagos state. It doesn't matter how long my brother, it is against the law!
If Lagos state outlaws hawking, why not move to Ogun, Ibadan, PH, Enugu or Kano to continue the business. Like I said earlier, many of these people don't have business living in Lagos, they will be better of living in a smaller city or in a village farming.

Are you sure you know the meaning of 'third world'?

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