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Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by Reference(m): 2:21pm On Jul 09, 2016
Many reasons for this but on the whole it is good news and indicative of the fact that deregulation is working and was the right thing to do. It also shows that in future when the refineries are up and running crude consumption wil be preserved. I will speculate that 60% to 70% of that fall is as a result of a collapse in the smuggling market to Cameroun, Niger and Chad and the remaining 10 to 20% to a reduction in economic activities occasioned by the recession and the remaining 10 to 20% as a result of a new found push for more effecient use of the product. This is evident to me personally down to the way I drive and where I will and will not drive to. I find myself using my GPS these days to avoid traffic and watch the time I go to certain places at my own expense.

But the greatest benefits will come with time when local refiners are up and running. To claw back that 30% and beyond they will be forced to seek export markets for their products which will earn forex rather that the Nigerian public subsidizing the Camerounian economy via their car owners. And they will be forced to cut local prices and offer other incentives to lure people back to petrol and we wasteful citizens back to our traffic jams and mindless roaming at weekends. I just hooe we have the patience to see the process through so we can reap the benefits just as the price of telecommunications continue to tumble in real terms despite the crumbling economy.
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by 989900: 2:28pm On Jul 09, 2016
Wallade:
The major reason for the significant drop in consumption must be that subsidy removal made the business of diversion of petroleum products to neighboring countries unattractive and unprofitable.

In the past, petroleum marketers ship petroleum products through Nigeria with disguise that the entire products are for Nigerian market. They claim subsidy on the shipment from the Nigerian government and then divert the bulk of the products to neighboring West African countries where they sell above Nigeria's regulated price.

It may shock you that petroleum products that probably was not shipped into Nigeria were presented as received inventories to claim subsidy payments for products not supplied.

That was the magic - the more you look, the less you see - of those days of subsidy.
You and a few other people get it. Reduction in consumption is apparent though, but the bulk is what you stated above.
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by 989900: 2:32pm On Jul 09, 2016
Kachikwu promised to work with the new GMD and thanked President Mohammadu Buhari for the opportunity given him to manage the corporation.

He said, “It is surprising that in the 11 months, I’ve managed to serve as GMD of NNPC, as Minister of State for Petroleum Resources, as OPEC President, as the President of APPA and I’ve just been appointed the Chairman of NNPC board; all in 11 months. There are not many people in the world who would have those opportunities within that time frame or be given that opportunity by a leader. So we all have the President to be very thankful to.”

On his future role as minister, he said he would work on the Petroleum Industry Bill, gas terms, restructuring of other parastatals and the country’s upstream business.
I will vote for this guy if he decides to be anything, anywhere.

And some people call it demotion. SMH
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by KissCODE(m): 2:32pm On Jul 09, 2016
Vendoor:
This feels good cheesy
feels good? Lolzzz

What that means is that many have parked their car and use it only on special occassions.

Many are no more using their gen everyday including me.

This news should be a bad news not a good one at all
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by diegwu01: 2:46pm On Jul 09, 2016
GenWOJUOLA:
Why wouldn't it drop? When d price of a good increases by about 80%, d demand would have to drop too.I hav parked my car, two of my neighbors have also parked theirs, d oda sold his wife's car. What Buhari failed to understand is that everything in this country runs on fuel!!!! The barber, the restaurant, manufacturing industries, even govt offices! With increase in cost of goods nd no increase in purchasing power, wat did Kachikwu and co expecthuh People would reduce consumption and as such manufacturers would also reduce output and by extension reduce the qty of fuel purchased to run their factory.
Why you dey lie?
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by egopersonified(f): 3:01pm On Jul 09, 2016
Keneking:
30% increase in price and 30% reduction in contribution to GDP

Buhari sef
cheesy
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by Nobody: 3:02pm On Jul 09, 2016
Trustyd1:
I don't agree with u,
Since the increased I've reduce by far my consumption. At N87 per litre N500 could buy me 4litres and I'll have change then run my gen. But at N145 per litre, 3Litres is already abt N500 and will run the gen in less time.
Let me analyse the impact of this increase. 1. No more power supply so we that depends on power to do our work are less productive. I'm a movie Editor and for like 1week now we have not have electricity for more than 3hrs. People that pays me are not willing to increase their pay so when I check how much it will cause me to do a job of 3week on steady gen power I've to turn down some jobs that will make a litle profit. Now who is gaining? I never support the subsidy, even when GEJ removed it I supported it but the government should make good plans to make the product available at affordable price. At least they promise during their campaign that it will be sold for N40.
Am sure if you read through you might get a clearer picture from the perspective of other posters who have also shared perspectives similar to mine. Customer reluctance to to pay higher pump price can never lead to 30% reduction in consumption. Queue might disappear but it is only because the product is now available.
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by ezef2k4(m): 3:19pm On Jul 09, 2016
This is a revelation of the true consumption of fuel in this country. GEJ and co inflated Nigeria's PMS consumption so as to get more money from their ''subsidy business''.
In 2006, N219.72 billion was spent on subsidy while payments for 2007 was N236.64 billion; 2008 (N360.18 billion), 2009 (N198.110 billion), 2010 (N416.45 billion), 2011 (N1.9 trillion).
Imagine the sudden rise in subsidy payments to 1.9trillion naira. Did our population multiply or did we import several thousands more cars??
SMH.
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by ajayiopy: 3:29pm On Jul 09, 2016
When the new pump price was announced, I called for a family forum where I made my intention known that I can only afford 15,000 monthly expense on fuel. To this end every individual should restructure his/her movement. Most of my colleagues did same in the spirit of cost cutting. No room for Big spending.
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by Kellzcold: 4:09pm On Jul 09, 2016
2rutalk1:
"We are saving over N1.4trillion annually from subsidy removal, we have saved over N3.1 trillion from TSA, we have saved over N1.8trillion from ghost workers, we have recovered over N3.7trillion from looters" yet you can't fund the budget, you want to borrow money to pay salaries, no single infrastructural project has been initiated by your administration, Nigerians are suffering. What kind of Economic principle can justify this? "it is all about the greatest good for the greatest number". You guys are better off while the masses are worse off. Any economic progress that does not improve the welfare of the people is useless, if you like save $50trillion, as far as it cannot create jobs and reduce poverty, it is useless.
This is exactly what I don't understand.... Where are all these money going into? Infrastructure? Relief programmes? Construction? Salary? Projects??
No one is seeing this money. Even people in the civil service say there's no money to start any project or to function... So where's all the so called recovered money?
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by tiwiex(m): 4:30pm On Jul 09, 2016
mrvitalis:
And we paid subsidy for the 30% for years.. . Who actually benefited from this things
PDP was a cancer we actually removed
Consumption has dropped drastically Oga. Go ask any filling station. There was definitely a scam in subsidy bit that is half of d story. Even with the poor power supply, consumption still dropped.
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by tiwiex(m): 4:34pm On Jul 09, 2016
doctokwus:
Let's forget all d figures previously bandied about in regards to all of our economic and social indices, almost all were corruption driven.
We are about to start knowing the true state of our economic demands and supplies
When prices rise, demand drops. Let them increase it to 200 and you see what happens. Consumption stimulates economic growth. This is not good news in any way.
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by tiwiex(m): 4:41pm On Jul 09, 2016
elvymoore:
ur submission makes so much sense. I believe d reduction in consumption is BC round tripping has been discouraged by deregulation. even when PMS was sold at N145 and above, consumption did not drop. so why now. basically judging from my locality I don't think that there is much drop in how people buy fuel. the same lifestyle persists even though there is hardship. bottom line is that that 30% and more reduction to come is as a result of bogus claims from marketers who are bent on exploiting the subsidy system. at times Nigerians let's look beyond sentiments and analyse issues properly
How can u say there is no drop in how people consume fuel. I suggest u visit a filling station and ask them and not assume. It takes my station 3 days to sell what was sold in one day. I know I buy way less now and dat ain't good because I do less. Which means aggregate productivity has dropped. If the figure being quoted is just 30% then it's sad to say what was being consumed during subsidy was correct. They just found a way to cheat d system and steal more than necessary. I expected a combined drop of at least 50% to cover both subsidy scam and reduced consumption.
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by Darnyel: 4:56pm On Jul 09, 2016
[quote authgood pdoctokwus post=47358755]Let's forget all d figures previously bandied about in regards to all of our economic and social indices, almost all were corruption driven.
We are about to start knowing the true state of our economic demands and supplies[/quote]cool
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by Darnyel: 4:57pm On Jul 09, 2016
[quote authgood pdoctokwus post=47358755]Let's forget all d figures previously bandied about in regards to all of our economic and social indices, almost all were corruption driven.
We are about to start knowing the true state of our economic demands and supplies[/quote]You made a good point. Things are not easy now truly, but it's the effect of the 'u-turn' Nigeria is making. Just very soon things will be alright. We can't continue to allow some few guys in Nigeria sucking up the 'sap' of our economy while an average Nigerian just manages to get by. Soon there will be wealth redistribution and even common man will do more than to just survive.
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by jawnieJorh(m): 4:59pm On Jul 09, 2016
Well, the economy of the country and it's citizens depends on this oil which makes it a very important and indispensable (at the moment) instrument in the system (Nigeria), one can't just take very risky decisions (subsidy removal or whatever) without being prepared to handle any incidence that cascades along. I don't know if Real Experts were/are employed to study the dynamics in our economy and growth, but the removal of subsidy wudnt have been felt so bad by the common Nigerian if good measures were implemented to handle any negative feedback that results. A nation at this age should be able to boast of a working and growing economy that based on diverse source, it takes responsible, sincere and professional individuals to achieve and not just townsmen,relatives,cousins with no precedence or knowledge in that field to fill up seats and wear clothing made from expensive 20 yards of cloth!
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by erico2k2(m): 5:12pm On Jul 09, 2016
mrvitalis:
And we paid subsidy for the 30% for years.. . Who actually benefited from this things
PDP was a cancer we actually removed
I like to ask you a logical question . From what country do you think petrol can be imported at landing price N17 0 into Nigeria.??
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by Highvotage: 5:16pm On Jul 09, 2016
Many of us on this forum just made comment like as to say we don't know anything at all.
All those saying 30% reduction in fuel consumption is as a result of economic hassip in town, do they forget that many were taking this same fuel to other country and were collecting subsidy from government?
When there is no free money to collect again, will they be able to do that?
Simple mathematics.
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by mrvitalis(m): 5:16pm On Jul 09, 2016
erico2k2:
I like to ask you a logical question . From what country do you think petrol can be imported at landing price N17 0 into Nigeria.??
170??
I don't get... But most of our petrol come from Russia and the rest and the landing cost is like.. 100-110
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by erico2k2(m): 5:18pm On Jul 09, 2016
codedguy1:
So we practically now consume around 20-25million litres daily depending on what the initial figure was which was really not known.

We bandied between 30 - 40million litres as our daily consumption in the past.

I think the main reason for this reduction is reduction in smuggling of the product because of its unprofitability after the removal of the subsidy.
Can we have a debate to check if subsidy was removed or not ?
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by adefact12(m): 5:19pm On Jul 09, 2016
We are moving forward. Sai baba.may Allah continue to assist u.
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by erico2k2(m): 5:19pm On Jul 09, 2016
mrvitalis:
170??
I don't get... But most of our petrol come from Russia and the rest and the landing cost is like.. 100-110
Ok let's check pump price at Russia
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by codedguy1(m): 5:31pm On Jul 09, 2016
erico2k2:
Can we have a debate to check if subsidy was removed or not ?
We all know there are contradictory assertions as to what happened in the oil sector.

Wether is was subsidy removal, liberalisation, price modulation, or the effect of dollars against the naira or even our reduction in the price of our oil. Whatever, something was done.

So to have a debate if subsidy was removed or not throws up a lot of different positions on the matter.

I just chose one of the options to buttress my point concerning the amount of our daily consumption.
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by erico2k2(m): 5:32pm On Jul 09, 2016
codedguy1:
We all know there are contradictory assertions as to what happened in the oil sector.

Wether is was subsidy removal, liberalisation, price modulation, or the effect of dollars against the naira or even our reduction in the price of our oil. Whatever, something was done.

So to have a debate if subsidy was removed or not throws up a lot of different positions on the matter.

I just chose one of the options to buttress my point concerning the amount of our daily consumption.
Ok noted
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by erico2k2(m): 5:35pm On Jul 09, 2016
mrvitalis:
170??
I don't get... But most of our petrol come from Russia and the rest and the landing cost is like.. 100-110
I have checked and it says $0.80/ltr
If you do the maths you will see that the sums do not add up.or you got any other country in mind ie venuzuela . .its meant to be cheaper there
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by erico2k2(m): 5:36pm On Jul 09, 2016
codedguy1:
We all know there are contradictory assertions as to what happened in the oil sector.

Wether is was subsidy removal, liberalisation, price modulation, or the effect of dollars against the naira or even our reduction in the price of our oil. Whatever, something was done.

So to have a debate if subsidy was removed or not throws up a lot of different positions on the matter.

I just chose one of the options to buttress my point concerning the amount of our daily consumption.
I think subsidy was not removed . They all know the game they are playing . The are operating on agreed platform .
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by codedguy1(m): 5:46pm On Jul 09, 2016
erico2k2:
I think subsidy was not removed . They all know the game they are playing . The are operating on agreed platform .
Well something happened and its a combination of all I initially wrote.

Buhari does not know what subsidy is.

Osinbajo said it wasn't removed.

Kachikwu said it was price modulation or something like that.

But whatever it was it stop roundtripping and I believe 145naira discouraged smuggling which I believe accounts for 60% of the reduced consumption.

We shall still see the effects of what was done in the future.

I just feel this govt is gambling with the economy.
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by Hearme(m): 5:48pm On Jul 09, 2016
greatness22:
Why won't it fall drastically? Some Nigerians can't cope with the new price.
I aree that some people can't cope but I dont agree that it will sum up to 12million littres daily since we were told we consumed 40million littres daily. Majority of this percentage drop is from the diversion of petrol to Benin republic, Niger republic and Cameroon.
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by erico2k2(m): 5:52pm On Jul 09, 2016
codedguy1:
Well something happened and its a combination of all I initially wrote.

Buhari does not know what subsidy is.

Osinbajo said it wasn't removed.

Kachikwu said it was price modulation or something like that.

But whatever it was it stop roundtripping and I believe 145naira discouraged smuggling which I believe accounts for 60% of the reduced consumption.

We shall still see the effects of what was done in the future.

I just feel this govt is gambling with the economy.
The thing tire person , this is always the argument I throw 4wrd when someone says subsidy was removed I ask them to tell me where the marketers import from.
The only thing that happened was pump price went up and it's no longer attractive to export from Nigeria.we are subsidising for the FG. They are all smiling .the reason why there is less consumption is cos people can no longer afford it.the roads are quieter as there are limited traffic .
Re: Deregulation: Petrol Consumption Falls By 30%, Says FG by erico2k2(m): 5:54pm On Jul 09, 2016
Hearme:
I aree that some people can't cope but I dont agree that it will sum up to 12million littres daily since we were told we consumed 40million littres daily. Majority of this percentage drop is from the diversion of petrol to Benin republic, Niger republic and Cameroon.
This is true but if that's the case what's the reliverance of them making this statement ? Ain't it clear its all for cheap political points ?
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