₦airaland Forum

Every occupation has it's hazards . The boys are currently facing occupational hazard. Only God can deliver them but in any case we should thank for them that death sentence was converted to 10 years imprisonment . Those who put them in such a terrible condition through their greed & avarice will never know peace in life.

na dem dasuki, ffk, obanikoro,metuh, tompolo e.t.c suppose be in that cell instead of the soldiers to refused to fight cos of lack of ammunitions.

forkadict:
Really??

They are suffering for their own sins. But may I ask you (cos I assume you are not a General) that if you were in those guys shoes given the same circumstances, would you have acted differently?

Yes, they are suffering for their sins.
The army is clear on such offence and its punishment.

As I said, they are quite lucky to still be alive for now.

As regards your question;

1. I probably wouldn't have been in their shoes.
I wouldn't be in the army in the first place.

2. If peradventure I found myself in their shoes for whatever reasons, I would have acted differently. I'd have obeyed the order and fought, if I fight, I may die...and I may not. If I don't, I'll be killed for mutiny. After all, some soldiers obeyed and are alive and free today. These disobedient ones are soo lucky, if they are released, it will be unfair on those that died...and others that will still die for mutiny...besides, releasing them will breed more indiscipline in the army...and you know what means for the nation, we aren't safe.

I'll rather die there as a hero than be killed here as a coward.

greatbrian:
Now u shud not bring the zombie part..........d going by what u said. U shud know dia z a reason military has chain of command. And I will tell u an american army will never refuse orders. Hv not been dia but I believe miliatry z dsame everywia. Just that its common of nigerians not to respect their own...

Really

Military is the same everywhere?

So American army high command will embezzle funds meant for prosecution of a war and ask their rank and file to go and get slaughtered in war like chickens??

Never mind, when you are eventually commissioned and sent abroad for courses, perhaps you will understand that civilised and advanced military are not run the way Naija military is being run.

I wish you the very best in your supposed noble profession.

forkadict:
Really

Military is the same everywhere?

So American army high command will embezzle funds meant for prosecution of a war and ask their rank and file to go and get slaughtered in war like chickens??

Never mind, when you are eventually commissioned and sent abroad for courses, perhaps you will understand that civilised and advanced military are not run the way Naija military is being run.

I wish you the very best in your supposed noble profession.

Bro, it is not a matter of embezzlement or anything.
Mutiny is mutiny in whichever circumstance.

If you want to join an organization, get enough details about it, if you can't deal with the bad aspects of it, it is better not to join at all.

Abeg, where's ICPC?
It's been long since I heard from them.

LaExpert:
Yes, they are suffering for their sins.
The army is clear on such offence and its punishment.

As I said, they are quite lucky to still be alive for now.

As regards your question;

1. I probably wouldn't have been in their shoes.
I wouldn't be in the army in the first place.

2. If peradventure I found myself in their shoes for whatever reasons, I would have acted differently. I'd have obeyed the order and fought, if I fight, I may die...and I may not. If I don't, I'll be killed for mutiny. After all, some soldiers obeyed and are alive and free today. These disobedient ones are soo lucky, if they are released, it will be unfair on those that died...and others that will still die for mutiny...besides, releasing them will breed more indiscipline in the army...and you know what means for the nation, we aren't safe.

I'll rather die there as a hero than be killed here as a coward.

How convenient to give your second response. I bet those soldiers in prison prior to the Boko war would have given the same response. But reality moreso harsh reality compels people to act very differently from theoretical course of action. I would have agreed with you 100% if those guys had been well equipped.

Always attack the root cause of a problem. Do a rooy cause analysis on this issue and tell me the cause of the mutiny. The mutiny in this case is just a symptom. IT IS NOT THE PROBLEM. I guess that is why civilians particularly technocrats are far better administrators than military personnel.

LaExpert:
Yes, they are suffering for their sins.
The army is clear on such offence and its punishment.

As I said, they are quite lucky to still be alive for now.

As regards your question;

1. I probably wouldn't have been in their shoes.
I wouldn't be in the army in the first place.

2. If peradventure I found myself in their shoes for whatever reasons, I would have acted differently. I'd have obeyed the order and fought, if I fight, I may die...and I may not. If I don't, I'll be killed for mutiny. After all, some soldiers obeyed and are alive and free today. These disobedient ones are soo lucky, if they are released, it will be unfair on those that died...and others that will still die for mutiny...besides, releasing them will breed more indiscipline in the army...and you know what means for the nation, we aren't safe.

I'll rather die there as a hero than be killed here as a coward.

How convenient to give your second response. I bet those soldiers in prison prior to the Boko war would have given the same response. But reality moreso harsh reality compels people to act very differently from theoretical course of action. I would have agreed with you 100% if those guys had been well equipped.

Always attack the root cause of a problem. Do a root cause analysis on this issue and tell me the cause of the mutiny. The mutiny in this case is just a symptom. IT IS NOT THE PROBLEM. I guess that is why civilians particularly technocrats are far better administrators than military personnel.

forkadict:
Really

Military is the same everywhere?

So American army high command will embezzle funds meant for prosecution of a war and ask their rank and file to go and get slaughtered in war like chickens??

Never mind, when you are eventually commissioned and sent abroad for courses, perhaps you will understand that civilised and advanced military are not run the way Naija military is being run.

I wish you the very best in your supposed noble profession.

Thank u sir

LaExpert:
Bro, it is not a matter of embezzlement or anything.
Mutiny is mutiny in whichever circumstance.

If you want to join an organization, get enough details about it, if you can't deal with the bad aspects of it, it is better not to join at all.

I agree with you in part and that pertains your last paragraph generally speaking.

But as for the mutiny is mutiny part? I beg to differ. Even in the US army, a soldier is mandated to disobey unlawful orders. Please check Google for this.

Chai ,one thing I ask of u, one thing I desire that Dasuki and those people share the loot should rot in jail and never come out. Amen in Jesus name.

greatbrian:
Lolzzz I remember a 2nd termal telling me back then I sold my freedom and peace for stipend

waddup what termal are you?

Kylekent59:
I need travel to lagos oooooo. What about u?

Calabar, here I come

They trained in Yugoslavia? What?

DASUKI, FAYOSE, MINIMAH, OBANIKORO, METUH, FFK WERE NOT GIVEN GUNS TO FIGHT BOKO HARAM BUT WERE GIVEN BILLIONS OF NAIRA MEANT TO FIGHT BOKO HARAM BUT THEY USE THE MONEY TO BUILD HOUSES BOTH IN NIGERIA, ABROAD DUBAI E.T.C. FUND ELECTIONS, STOCK THEM INTO THEIR PRIVATE BANK ACCOUNTS, DISTRIBUTE TO THEIR FAMILY AND CHILDREN AND WHEN THEY WERE ARRESTED WAILERS ARE SHOUTING WITCH HUNTING.

FFK ONLY USED 67 DAYS IN PRISON AND UP TO TODAY AFTER RELEASE HE IS CRYING THAT THEY WANTED TO SILENCE OPPOSITION AND
FFK AND FAYOSE ARE FORMING APOSTLE OF JESUS BY CALLING FOR PRAYERS WHEN THEY HAVE NOT YET DEFENDED OR EXPLAINED THE BILLIONS OF NAIRA FOUND IN THEIR POSESSION

greatbrian:
Lolzzz they are still our brothers now. As for me I dnt for any reason support killing. The only set of people who deserves been shot are the bad guys (insurgents, politicians etc)

But one tin pple here on nairaland didn't really know and won't care to know is. Those soldiers stepped over their lines. Their ranks z within lcpl and sergeants. And yet you directly refused the order of a whole GENERAL. 1 star or 2 star I dnt care. Their are ways to disobey orders dat won't arose mutiny or so. Even here where I am when 3rd termals give me job to serve they won't care how I do it even though they know the job z negative. Yet u must just find a way of doing it.


I pray for the soldiers sha. And I believe God will revist them but even buhari can't release a mutiny case. He z a retired General himself and he knows how grievous the offense z. And if dz guys are released it will trigger many more indiscipline in the military.

That's just it; they had to use them as scape goats to serve as deterrents to any soldier(s) that may want to carry out mutiny in the future. It was reported then that they almost lynched the general back then & that they even shot at his vehicle as he was spirited away. Thank God sha that the death sentence served them initially was reversed. Too bad corruption in Naija doesn't get punished bythe death sentence so that the benefactors of the loot from Dasukigate...

Kylekent59:
I need travel to lagos oooooo. What about u?

na enugu I go wan go

forkadict:
I agree with you in part and that pertains your last paragraph generally speaking.

But as for the mutiny is mutiny part? I beg to differ. Even in the US army, a soldier is mandated to disobey unlawful orders. Please check Google for this.

Yes, mutiny is mutiny in whichever circumstance.

It is not mutiny if one refuses an unlawful order. In this case, they were found guilty for mutiny...that there were inadequate weapons, doesn't make the orders illegal.

forkadict:
How convenient to give your second response. I bet those soldiers in prison prior to the Boko war would have given the same response. But reality moreso harsh reality compels people to act very differently from theoretical course of action. I would have agreed with you 100% if those guys had been well equipped.

Always attack the root cause of a problem. Do a root cause analysis on this issue and tell me the cause of the mutiny. The mutiny in this case is just a symptom. IT IS NOT THE PROBLEM. I guess that is why civilians particularly technocrats are far better administrators thanI military personnel.

Mutiny here wasn't just a symptom, it was a problem in itself. Soldiers have been fighting and returning alive before this set of convicted ones, when the convicted ones were sent, soldiers were still fighting and even after. Why was their case the only different one?

A clear symptom for 'no weapon' as they claim would have been high death rate of soldiers, high rates of mutiny of rebellion of soldiers to fight...not just one case.


Why punish someone that robs because he has no job and has to feed? Is unemployment not the root cause in that case?

The situation of things in this country is really annoying. They push you to the wall, and if you react, they will kill you. I pray they are released soonest. If not, they should patiently serve their jail term, once they're out, they should kill all those bastards that committed injustice against them. Cold blood murder.

farouk0403:
waddup what termal are you?

Sorry sir I can't disclose that here. Who knows if u r my superior. Hv had enof trouble already lemme just live an anonymous live here on social media. Sorry sir.

Ice007:
That's just it; they had to use them as scape goats to serve as deterrents to any soldier(s) that may want to carry out mutiny in the future. It was reported then that they almost lynched the general back then & that they even shot at his vehicle as he was spirited away. Thank God sha that the death sentence served them initially was reversed. Too bad corruption in Naija doesn't get punished bythe death sentence so that the benefactors of the loot from Dasukigate...

U make sense bro. But to me the death penalty would hv averted story like dz on nairaland.

God will save you guys o

greatbrian:
Sorry sir I can't disclose that here. Who knows if u r my superior. Hv had enof trouble already lemme just live an anonymous live here on social media. Sorry sir.

Ok