lionness:
I was in church today and was verse of the Bible was quoted by my pastor: 1 Samuel 17:36 ► "Your servant has struck down both lions and bears, and this uncircumcised Philistine (Goliath) shall be like one of them, for he has defied the armies of the living God.”

This statement bothered me because I did my masters in the UK in Zoology, and distinctly remembered learning that Lions are mainly found in Africa, and a tiny species in only India. The rest are found in zoos. Now could a lion be in Israel? And then, the word "Bears" also confused me. There are different types of bears in Asia, and I learn years ago that they are called Asian black bears, and they are only found in a different topography of Asia, and never in the Middle East, and the Asian Black Bears only feed on fruits, grasses, and insects, and could have never been a treat to David sheep. And these bears are only found in China, Bangladesh, and Russia, and they are the size of Pandas.

I dont often question the teachings of the Bible, but this gross discrepancy got me confused. And please dont tell me I dont have faith, my entire families are Christian, and my own father was the pastor who quoted this verse this morning while preaching hing in his church. I need an explanation.

lionness:
I need opinions

kenonze:
Base on human thinking, u may have a point but this is the scripture.
Every account is accurate and [b]unquestionable [/b]

lionness:
I was in church today and was verse of the Bible was quoted by my pastor: 1 Samuel 17:36 ► "Your servant has struck down both lions and bears, and this uncircumcised Philistine (Goliath) shall be like one of them, for he has defied the armies of the living God.”

This statement bothered me because I did my masters in the UK in Zoology, and distinctly remembered learning that Lions are mainly found in Africa, and a tiny species in only India. The rest are found in zoos. Now could a lion be in Israel? And then, the word "Bears" also confused me. There are different types of bears in Asia, and I learn years ago that they are called Asian black bears, and they are only found in a different topography of Asia, and never in the Middle East, and the Asian Black Bears only feed on fruits, grasses, and insects, and could have never been a treat to David sheep. And these bears are only found in China, Bangladesh, and Russia, and they are the size of Pandas.

I dont often question the teachings of the Bible, but this gross discrepancy got me confused. And please dont tell me I dont have faith, my entire families are Christian, and my own father was the pastor who quoted this verse this morning while preaching in his church. I need an explanation.

lionness:
I was in church today and was verse of the Bible was quoted by my pastor: 1 Samuel 17:36 ► "Your servant has struck down both lions and bears, and this uncircumcised Philistine (Goliath) shall be like one of them, for he has defied the armies of the living God.”

This statement bothered me because I did my masters in the UK in Zoology, and distinctly remembered learning that Lions are mainly found in Africa, and a tiny species in only India. The rest are found in zoos. Now could a lion be in Israel? And then, the word "Bears" also confused me. There are different types of bears in Asia, and I learn years ago that they are called Asian black bears, and they are only found in a different topography of Asia, and never in the Middle East, and the Asian Black Bears only feed on fruits, grasses, and insects, and could have never been a treat to David sheep. And these bears are only found in China, Bangladesh, and Russia, and they are the size of Pandas.

I dont often question the teachings of the Bible, but this gross discrepancy got me confused. And please dont tell me I dont have faith, my entire families are Christian, and my own father was the pastor who quoted this verse this morning while preaching in his church. I need an explanation.

lionness:
I was in church today and was verse of the Bible was quoted by my pastor: 1 Samuel 17:36 ► "Your servant has struck down both lions and bears, and this uncircumcised Philistine (Goliath) shall be like one of them, for he has defied the armies of the living God.”

This statement bothered me because I did my masters in the UK in Zoology, and distinctly remembered learning that Lions are mainly found in Africa, and a tiny species in only India. The rest are found in zoos. Now could a lion be in Israel? And then, the word "Bears" also confused me. There are different types of bears in Asia, and I learn years ago that they are called Asian black bears, and they are only found in a different topography of Asia, and never in the Middle East, and the Asian Black Bears only feed on fruits, grasses, and insects, and could have never been a treat to David sheep. And these bears are only found in China, Bangladesh, and Russia, and they are the size of Pandas.

I dont often question the teachings of the Bible, but this gross discrepancy got me confused. And please dont tell me I dont have faith, my entire families are Christian, and my own father was the pastor who quoted this verse this morning while preaching in his church. I need an explanation.

lionness:
I was in church today and was verse of the Bible was quoted by my pastor: 1 Samuel 17:36 ► "Your servant has struck down both lions and bears, and this uncircumcised Philistine (Goliath) shall be like one of them, for he has defied the armies of the living God.”

This statement bothered me because I did my masters in the UK in Zoology, and distinctly remembered learning that Lions are mainly found in Africa, and a tiny species in only India. The rest are found in zoos. Now could a lion be in Israel? And then, the word "Bears" also confused me. There are different types of bears in Asia, and I learn years ago that they are called Asian black bears, and they are only found in a different topography of Asia, and never in the Middle East, and the Asian Black Bears only feed on fruits, grasses, and insects, and could have never been a treat to David sheep. And these bears are only found in China, Bangladesh, and Russia, and they are the size of Pandas.

I dont often question the teachings of the Bible, but this gross discrepancy got me confused. And please dont tell me I dont have faith, my entire families are Christian, and my own father was the pastor who quoted this verse this morning while preaching in his church. I need an explanation.

Tolexander:
Lioness?

probably you want to know if David killed your husband lion!

Touchnot01:
God bless you sweetheart. It is perfectly okay to ask questions, but you have to mind where and whom you ask.

This forum will not give you the answers you need, especially with respect to religion. This section especially was subtly created and falsely named religion section, the main aim of the section is to evangelize atheism. It targets people who are a bit weak in the faith and people like you who have questions. Thats why i'm not too active here but my brother is.

I believe these links will give you the answers you seek;

www.bible-history.com/links.php?cat=41&sub=802&cat_name=Bible+Animals&subcat_name=Lion‎

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www.bible-history.com/links.php?cat=41&sub=818&cat_name=Bible+Animals&subcat_name=Bear

God bless you.‎

antispexish:


masters in zoology, look at this page.
"The wildlife of Israel includes the flora and fauna of Israel , which is extremely diverse due to the country's location between the temperate and the tropical zones , bordering the Mediterranean Sea in the west and the desert in the east. Species such as the Syrian brown bear and the Arabian ostrich have become extinct in Israel due to hunting and loss of habitat . As of May 2007, 190 nature reserves have been established in Israel.

" The Land of Israel once contained a variety of mammals, however in recent times many mammals such as the European water vole, the cheetah and the Caucasian squirrel [b]went locally extinct. In the modern age many mammal populations such as the Arabian leopard and the sand cat are in a high risk of extinction. In total there are 57 species of mammals which are endangered (as of 2002)"

"Various animal species have become extinct due to unchecked hunting under Ottoman rule and to a lesser extent under British Mandate rule, due to a non-enforcement of hunting laws. By the beginning of the 20th century, the white oryx , the Syrian brown bear, the Asiatic lions , the Asiatic cheetah , and the Nile crocodile became extinct in the region. Modern hunting laws prohibit all hunting of mammals, birds, reptiles and
amphibians , except those considered pests and specific animals in hunting seasons. However the packs of feral dogs that are taking over the countryside are an increasing threat to wildlife and domesticated animals. [6]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildlife_of_Israel

op, I very much doubt ya degree
modified : where is the middle east if it's not in asia

kenonze:
Base on human thinking, u may have a point but this is the scripture.
Every account is accurate and unquestionable

kenonze:
Base on human thinking, u may have a point but this is the scripture.
Every account is accurate and unquestionable

Adebayor1:
Hmmmm....some complicated question...it's possible dat it was Lucifer dat sent those wild animals to attack David Nd hs sheep...Bt God gave David strength because he always do what is just.nd right...so he was able to tore dem apart...
Meanwhile we all knw Luciferis capable of...he would do anything to attack the righteous ones.....don't be shocked if one day yu found a dragon at your back yard...


Front page pls... this is nice topic to discuss

4everGod:
All of you who never research before speaking i suggest you do. Lions and bears did exist in Israel but have been hunted till they went extinct.

The alleged zoologist who began this thread i really need to probe your degree as you just showed it might have been erroneously given to you.

kenonze:
Base on human thinking, u may have a point but this is the scripture.
Every account is accurate and unquestionable

Hilles:
Simple logic will tell its possible for a forest to degrade in to a desert over such time..my Geologist friend once explained how some countries and state use to be sea beds and thus explain some resources found in such places..and other matters of that nature,

Adebayor1:
Hmmmm....some complicated question...it's possible dat it was Lucifer dat sent those wild animals to attack David Nd hs sheep...Bt God gave David strength because he always do what is just.nd right...so he was able to tore dem apart...
Meanwhile we all knw Luciferis capable of...he would do anything to attack the righteous ones.....don't be shocked if one day yu found a dragon at your back yard...


Front page pls... this is nice topic to discuss

TrajansKong:

As an unbeliever who came here to mock, I must state that what 4everGod just wrote is correct.

We learn something new every day!

Still some deeply disturbing, depraved and heartless authoritarians in this thread though.. .

4everGod:


Thank you for admitting to truth. Many out of blind hate and pre-programmed attack mechanism never pause to double check before making comments. People like Valentinemary who ignorantly went on the indoctrination attack without knowing that she is simply showing her ignorance to the fact that lions and bears did exist in israel many years ago and just went extinct due to excessive hunting