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Re: ............. by hopefulLandlord: 4:10pm On Aug 15, 2016
hahn:


Then why did you start the thread in the first place?

Exactly, I think they're deluded, I try to help them out of the delusion


Its like one mad man and one sane man in a room

Both believe the other is insane

But there's no one there to declare one of them insane

So they stay there and think each other is insane

What's the basis for insanity between the both of them?

If both can't agree on want insanity is, who therefore is insane?
Re: ............. by Nobody: 4:11pm On Aug 15, 2016
Now hopefullandlord ask yourself this... Why fight and argue or preach or share something that means nothing. If Atheism in all its rationality means we are nothing and mean nothing and end up nowhere so why argue it or declare it or preach it if its all "going through the motions".

On the other hand Christianity is all about something and from something and going somewhere which is what faith has shown and taught and made us experience so why then do we preach it and teach it and argue it...Its because its tangible and has a foundation which we know and have experienced.

So ask yourself...which makes more sense? Which has bigger and stronger ideals? Which is preferable? Which appeals to the human soul?

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Re: ............. by hopefulLandlord: 4:15pm On Aug 15, 2016
4everGod:
Now hopefullandlord ask yourself this... Why fight and argue or preach or share something that means nothing. If Atheism in all its rationality means we are nothing and mean nothing and end up nowhere so why argue it or declare it or preach it if its all "going through the motions".

On the other hand Christianity is all about something and from something and going somewhere which is what faith has shown and taught and made us experience so why then do we preach it and teach it and argue it...Its because its tangible and has a foundation which we know and have experienced.

So ask yourself...which makes more sense? Which has bigger and stronger ideals? Which is preferable? Which appeals to the human soul?


Bros, don't misunderstand me

Whichever one makes more sense to you is your cup of coffee



I just realised how pointless these arguments I've spent so much of my free time engaging in is pointless at both ends


Who is mad? You need to define madness


Its all just pointless
Re: ............. by Nobody: 4:26pm On Aug 15, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


Bros, don't misunderstand me

Whichever one makes more sense to you is your cup of coffee



I just realised how pointless these arguments I've spent so much of my free time engaging in is pointless at both ends


Who is mad? You need to define madness


Its all just pointless



If indeed it was pointless then you wouldnt be reasoning this way. The supposed pointlessness as you put it has given you a point. Whats your point? That it all does not make sense.

But to another it does make sense.

If indeed it was pointless then several wouldnt be seeing the reason why they would become Christians after being Atheists for a good while. The point of it all, the point of life got through to them hence that decision. Others who left Christianity to become Atheists also saw a certain point that made them do that but based on my analysis above which then appeals more to the senses and the human soul? Which then is really pointless?

That is the purpose of my last post. Think about it.

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Re: ............. by hahn(m): 4:31pm On Aug 15, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


Exactly, I think they're deluded, I try to help them out of the delusion


Its like one mad man and one sane man in a room

Both believe the other is insane

But there's no one there to declare one of them insane

So they stay there and think each other is insane

What's the basis for insanity between the both of them?

If both can't agree on want insanity is, who therefore is insane?

Not me tongue
Re: ............. by hopefulLandlord: 4:35pm On Aug 15, 2016
4everGod:


If indeed it was pointless then you wouldnt be reasoning this way. The supposed pointlessness as you put it has given you a point. Whats your point? That it all does not make sense.

But to another it does make sense.

If indeed it was pointless then several wouldnt be seeing the reason why they would become Christians after being Atheists for a good while. The point of it all, the point of life got through to them hence that decision. Others who left Christianity to become Atheists also saw a certain point that made them do that but based on my analysis above which then appeals more to the senses and the human soul? Which then is really pointless?

That is the purpose of my last post. Think about it.

You don't know why I became atheist, do you?

My "pointlessness" thing is when a realisation hits you that you shouldn't be arguing anyways

Whatever made you lack belief is your personal cup of coffee

I just realised that all I've been against is "indoctrination"

Not forcing your choice on anyone when they can't decide for themselves

That has been my point, I retraced my steps and realised that's the reason, but its impossible to stop that indoctrination, very very impossible

Every human should be free to make their own choices not chosing the belief of the child and he lives defending it


I realise your point about you not even interested in converting us, you're interested in us not influencing "shaky Christians" who could be swayed by us

What's the point?

I'm done with this biko

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Re: ............. by Ranchhoddas: 4:37pm On Aug 15, 2016
@ Hopefullandlord... I think you should agree with him on his definition of God for the sake of the thread. I personally think it is far easier to refute the idea of the Christian God than theism generally.
Re: ............. by hopefulLandlord: 4:38pm On Aug 15, 2016
hahn:


Not me tongue

You've just proven what I mean

Its just an example
Re: ............. by hopefulLandlord: 4:47pm On Aug 15, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
I think you should with him on his definition of God for the sake of the thread. I personally think it is far easier to refute the idea of the Christian God than theism generally.

True brother but I don't want to anymore

I'm done arguing against the existence of what I term imaginary, the thread isn't dead bro

You're free to engage him




LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

YOU'VE JUST WITNESSED THE LAST POST BY HOPEFULLANDLORD ON RELIGION SECTION

ITS BEEN FUN ALL THE WAY


SPECIAL THANKS TO FELLOW ATHEISTS

ALSO TO THE THEISTS

IM GONNA MISS OUR ARGUMENTS BUT ILL BE WITH YOU ALL ONLY AS OBSERVER

IF YOU PAY ENOUGH ATTENTION, YOU MIGHT SEE MY MONICKER HERE VIEWING YOUR THREADS


THAT'S ALL FOLKS!!!!!!!










HALAMADRID!


Y NADA MAS!!!!

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Re: ............. by Nobody: 4:54pm On Aug 15, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


True brother but I don't want to anymore

I'm done arguing against the existence of what I term imaginary, the thread isn't dead bro

You're free to engage him




LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

YOU'VE JUST WITNESSED THE LAST POST BY HOPEFULLANDLORD ON RELIGION SECTION

ITS BEEN FUN ALL THE WAY


SPECIAL THANKS TO FELLOW ATHEISTS

ALSO TO THE THEISTS

IM GONNA MISS OUR ARGUMENTS BUT ILL BE WITH YOU ALL ONLY AS OBSERVER

IF YOU PAY ENOUGH ATTENTION, YOU MIGHT SEE MY MONICKER HERE VIEWING YOUR THREADS


THAT'S ALL FOLKS!!!!!!!










HALAMADRID!


Y NADA MAS!!!!

Let me help you lay emphasis grin grin grin wink wink wink


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This guy has thrown in the towel and has decided to go AWOL. I think I need to Salute him. grin grin

Pun intended!

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Re: ............. by Ranchhoddas: 4:58pm On Aug 15, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


True brother but I don't want to anymore

I'm done arguing against the existence of what I term imaginary, the thread isn't dead bro

You're free to engage him




LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

YOU'VE JUST WITNESSED THE LAST POST BY HOPEFULLANDLORD ON RELIGION SECTION

ITS BEEN FUN ALL THE WAY


SPECIAL THANKS TO FELLOW ATHEISTS

ALSO TO THE THEISTS

IM GONNA MISS OUR ARGUMENTS BUT ILL BE WITH YOU ALL ONLY AS OBSERVER

IF YOU PAY ENOUGH ATTENTION, YOU MIGHT SEE MY MONICKER HERE VIEWING YOUR THREADS


THAT'S ALL FOLKS!!!!!!!










HALAMADRID!


Y NADA MAS!!!!
Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: ............. by Nobody: 5:01pm On Aug 15, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude do you want to convince him to return like Messi returned to their national team? He says that is his last post here on NL and i trust he will honor it.

Send him a pm if you wish to discuss further with him. You are a good guy Ranchhoddas..you just need to find a sure footing. I hail!

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Re: ............. by winner01(m): 5:18pm On Aug 15, 2016
4everGod:


Dude do you want to convince him to return like Messi returned to their national team? He says that is his last post here on NL and i trust he will honor it.

Send him a pm if you wish to discuss further with him. You are a good guy Ranchhoddas..you just need to find a sure footing. I hail!
Ranchhoddas loves arguments, ive noticed. I bet he's sad that his comrade has left the battle field. grin

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Re: ............. by Nobody: 5:20pm On Aug 15, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


True brother but I don't want to anymore

I'm done arguing against the existence of what I term imaginary, the thread isn't dead bro

You're free to engage him




LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

YOU'VE JUST WITNESSED THE LAST POST BY HOPEFULLANDLORD ON RELIGION SECTION

ITS BEEN FUN ALL THE WAY


SPECIAL THANKS TO FELLOW ATHEISTS

ALSO TO THE THEISTS

IM GONNA MISS OUR ARGUMENTS BUT ILL BE WITH YOU ALL ONLY AS OBSERVER

IF YOU PAY ENOUGH ATTENTION, YOU MIGHT SEE MY MONICKER HERE VIEWING YOUR THREADS


THAT'S ALL FOLKS!!!!!!!










HALAMADRID!


Y NADA MAS!!!!

One atheist down..... grin shocked

Good job my people! grin

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Re: ............. by Ranchhoddas: 5:21pm On Aug 15, 2016
4everGod:


Dude do you want to convince him to return like Messi returned to their national team? He says that is his last post here on NL and i trust he will honor it.

Send him a pm if you wish to discuss further with him. You are a good guy Ranchhoddas..you just need to find a sure footing. I hail!
Re: ............. by Nobody: 5:22pm On Aug 15, 2016
Rachhoddass we are praying for you!

Re: ............. by Ranchhoddas: 5:25pm On Aug 15, 2016
winner01:
Ranchhoddas loves arguments, ive noticed. I bet he's sad that his comrade has left the battle field. grin
More like disappointed. I was expecting him to tear this guy to pieces.
Re: ............. by Nobody: 5:30pm On Aug 15, 2016
[b]Ranchhoddass hopefullandlord passed his mantle over to you as he was withdrawing from the front line so let me ask you this.. do you want to pick it up or you want to also give all of this some critical thought same way he did.

The purpose of all our arguments here on nairaland isnt for fun...we theists are on an assignment and a commission given to us by Jesus. You are one of our assignments as you rank highly on Gods list.

The other day i gave you an assignment and you said you are trying to carry it out but your mind wouldnt let you. How come?

A few days ago a demon tormented, depressed and frustrated young lady on nairaland wanted to end her life and she posted a suicide note here on nairaland and she reached out to me and we talked and i asked her to do the same thing i asked you to. she did and was instantly given peace. She accepted Christ same day and is now free and living a life of Joy.

Why not taste and see that God is good. Questions are not the way! Do not question God from the outside. Come into the house first then you can ask your Father any question you desire and he will reveal the answers to you.

Come on brother![/b]

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Re: ............. by Ranchhoddas: 5:32pm On Aug 15, 2016
4everGod:
Rachhoddass we are praying for you!
Very funny meme. Include prayer for money as well. Na wetin I need now be that.
Re: ............. by Nobody: 5:38pm On Aug 15, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Very funny meme. Include prayer for money as well. Na wetin I need now be that.

Ranchhoddass the crowd you are following here on Nairaland have shown you clearly that even they are looking for their own way as nothing makes sense to them but you can be different.

We Christians already have a way and that way is Jesus.

Rise above all of this and become a new man, a new identity, a new crowd with a destination.
Re: ............. by DeSepiero(m): 5:39pm On Aug 15, 2016
That's probably his last post as HopefulLandord.
We'll surely be seeing more of him in the guise of another moniker. grin

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Re: ............. by Ranchhoddas: 5:42pm On Aug 15, 2016
4everGod:
[b]Ranchhoddass hopefullandlord passed his mantle over to you as he was withdrawing from the front line so let me ask you this.. do you want to pick it up or you want to also give all of this some critical thought same way he did.

The purpose of all our arguments here on nairaland isnt for fun...we theists are on an assignment and a commission given to us by Jesus. You are one of our assignments as you rank highly on Gods list.

The other day i gave you an assignment and you said you are trying to carry it out but your mind wouldnt let you. How come?

A few days ago a demon tormented, depressed and frustrated young lady on nairaland wanted to end her life and she posted a suicide note here on nairaland and she reached out to me and we talked and i asked her to do the same thing i asked you to. she did and was instantly given peace. She accepted Christ same day and is now free and living a life of Joy.

Why not taste and see that God is good. Questions are not the way! Do not question God from the outside. Come into the house first then you can ask your Father any question you desire and he will reveal the answers to you.

Come on brother![/b]
Though I'd love to take it up, it would involve a lot of typing and I don't have the means...I saw the suicide thread, I did not comment because I believed it was serious and important. I'd love to know exactly what happened to her though.
Re: ............. by Nobody: 5:45pm On Aug 15, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Though I'd love to take it up, it would involve a lot of typing and I don't have the means...I saw the suicide thread, I did not comment because I believed it was serious and important. I'd love to know exactly what happened to her though.

if you want to know what happened then reach out to me on whatsapp. you already have my number. You need to experience Jesus for yourself and not based on crowd mentality same way that young lady has done.

Or would you rather i call you? I would gladly do that if you ask me to.
Re: ............. by Ranchhoddas: 6:03pm On Aug 15, 2016
4everGod:


if you want to know what happened then reach out to me on whatsapp. you already have my number. You need to experience Jesus for yourself and not based on crowd mentality same way that young lady has done.

Or would you rather i call you? I would gladly do that if you ask me to.
However you want to do it is okay by me.
Re: ............. by Nobody: 6:13pm On Aug 15, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
However you want to do it is okay by me.

will call u in a minute
Re: ............. by Nobody: 6:22pm On Aug 15, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
However you want to do it is okay by me.


Your mtn line is off
Re: ............. by Dejideji1(m): 6:34pm On Aug 15, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


True brother but I don't want to anymore

I'm done arguing against the existence of what I term imaginary, the thread isn't dead bro

You're free to engage him




LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

YOU'VE JUST WITNESSED THE LAST POST BY HOPEFULLANDLORD ON RELIGION SECTION

ITS BEEN FUN ALL THE WAY


SPECIAL THANKS TO FELLOW ATHEISTS

ALSO TO THE THEISTS

IM GONNA MISS OUR ARGUMENTS BUT ILL BE WITH YOU ALL ONLY AS OBSERVER

IF YOU PAY ENOUGH ATTENTION, YOU MIGHT SEE MY MONICKER HERE VIEWING YOUR THREADS


THAT'S ALL FOLKS!!!!!!!










HALAMADRID!


Y NADA MAS!!!!

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Re: ............. by Ranchhoddas: 6:38pm On Aug 15, 2016
4everGod:


Your mtn line is off
Rectified
Re: ............. by Conner44: 7:28pm On Aug 15, 2016
hopefulLandlord:

Why am I here?

Nice question

But is it "why are you here on this thread in NL" or "why are you here, alive in this world?"


The second question should be the main reason for your brain to be in overdrive.
Re: ............. by Nobody: 8:28pm On Aug 15, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


You've just proven what I mean

Its just an example

what i will tell you is don't do that foolish things nairaland atheist do ,,,,,,,de activating your account instead live the account for future reference
Re: ............. by promise10: 9:56pm On Aug 15, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


This is very very awkward

I don't have a definition for god

If it sounds stupid and unintelligent and makes me sound like I didn't go to school, then so be it

I have no such definition of mine

I'm tongue tied here and perhaps sounding incoherent but I've already seen that this discussion would go no where

YOU WIN!!!

But if I'm being forced to define god

I'll say "a supreme being"
See a coward talking!

You challenge God, but you don't know what the word GOD means TO YOU. This is so disgusting and laughable!

NO, I HAVEN'T WON! We have not had any constructive discussion yet, and it will really be a disappointment ro people following this BEAUTIFUL thread.

No, you are the one making it look awkward! Not just awkward but disgusting as well. I say no bro, this thread HAS A LONG BRIGHT WAY TO GO!

Nobody is forcing you, that's why it is a DiSCUSSION. You don't have to say that if you are being forced...., because nobody forced you to open up this thread. You did it because you can. Now, it is time to draw a good basis for the discussion and you are telling me;"if I am being forced....." As if I even forced you in the first place.

There must be an agreed platform, on which discussions can be based on. Be act like a literate if you really are! We are here for constructive argument!

Your definition MUST NOT be same as mine, but must be agreed upon UNIFORMLY as the real concept of God, on which we can argue.

You must not believe in something, before you can know the meaning! From which country did you exactly come from?? Your low intellectual capacity is making me ghost pimple!

That you give me your definition of God doesn't mean you believe in it. If you think otherwise, then you are simply misinformed or intellectually low!

Hopefully, you later gave me your own meaning of God, which you defined as a supreme being, which is the entire summary of my definition. On this agreed platform, can you now discuss with me?
Re: ............. by promise10: 10:16pm On Aug 15, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
This has made me realise how pointless this theistic atheistic arguments are


There's NO base to start

I have already seen this pointlessness from a mile away

How does someone define what he thinks is imaginary?

How do you define a colour without mentioning it?

How do you argue the colour of a wall with someone who thinks there is no wall there in the first place?

There is no basis

Maybe I'm not thinking straigh
Bro you are annoying me, because I am trying my best to make this thread constructive and you are here frustrating the whole thing. Nobody forced you to open this thread, and NOBODY forced me to engage myself in this thread.

Now, I have always said this, for an agreed basis of our argument, because I want this discussion to be CONSTRUCTIVE. I am not here for jokes! I have many jokes I can do than this!

Please, you said there is no base to start? You see why I called you a coward? I have been trying to draw a basis for us to start the discussion, and you are here busy telling me that there is no basis. In fact, you are not wise at all!

No, don't call it pointlessness but YOUR OWN POINTLESSNESS. Because what I am asking you for is the very basis of EVERY DISCUSSION. I ask again, did you go to school?

Even if you can't define something you see as imaginary, how can you discuss on something you can't define? Bro, this is insincerity and HYPOCRISY.

Even if I can't explain colour, but I can pick up the dictionary meaning of colour, I am okay with that!

In the case of the colour of a wall, both parties in discussion MUST know what the phrase "Colour of a wall" MEANS. Which doesn't mean that you have believe that it is real, but that you have known what "Colour of a wall" should be all about. Which can go this way: If there is ANY WALL in the first place, what is the colour?" This mindset is enough to start off the discussion, than deceiving yourself that you have never heard or known what colour and wall should mean, even without believing in it's reality. It sounds and looks so insane!

Bro, stop denying the basis I am trying to lay! By saying that there is no basis. Bro, I don't want to take this personal. I have respect for you for creating a beautiful thread like this, so since I have respected you for that, try to respect yourself please. No insult.

No, you are not thinking straight, you are thinking in a non-constructive way!

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