Deadlytruth:


You have come again with your lies. Did Zik the Igbos leader not argue that federalism would promote tribalism over nationalism? Was Zik a federalist or a unitarian? Was it not an Igbo man who first dismantled our federalism and changed our name from "Federal Republic of Nigeria" to just "Republic of Nigeria" meaning that the federating units had ceased to exist? All these happened before Aburi Accord which itself was a demand for confederalism and not a return to the federalism we were practising earlier on.

Deadlytruth:

Pure Rubbish!!!
Those who signed the Aburi Accord were not those (Enahoro, Awolowo, etc) who had been demanding a return to the pre-ironsi federal arrangement but some illiterate Hausas whom Gowon gathered in Aburi making Ojukwu's little intelligence to shine brightly in contrast to those dumb, illiterate and block headed Hausa-fulanis. Had the real unrepentant federalists like Awolowo and Enahoro been in attendance in Aburi Ojukwu's so-called intelligence there would have petered into insignificance. Even Ojukwu himself later said it that he respected Awo and declared he was the best president Nigeria never had.
There just was no way Enahoro or Awo would have signed Ojukwu's proposals had they been in attendance at Aburi that day because Ojukwu's proposals, e.g. Regional Army, etc were purely confederal ideas which Awo or Enahoro would have always, as core federalists rejected. That explains why on arrival back in Nigeria all the federalists saw those agreements and explained to Gowon and his illiterate hausa-fulani delegates that Ojukwu has succeded in selling to them a dummy of confederacy as against a return to the pre-Ironsi federal arrangement which Ojukwu made them believe he too wanted before he went with them to Aburi.

lordyugo:



r u blaming zik for believing sm regions wont be bigots nd tribalists?

39xtr36r:


Useless rants of delusion from an ab0ki ass-licker!

Your attempts at distorting history cannot prevent you and your inconsequential Uneme-Nekhua people from spending the rest of your miserable lives with your Fulani masters.

THE ACTION OF ENAHORO IN SCUTTLING THE CONFEDERATION PLAN - Tanko Yakassai
http://nigerianpilot.com/restructuring-calls-fears-igbos-yakassai/

"...I was an assistant publicity secretary of the party, so I know all the happenings – the action of Tony Enahoro, the boycott by northern members of house reps, the riot that followed the plan to turn Nigeria to confederation, and those who protested.”
- Alhaji Tanko Yakassai
Chairman of the Northern Elders Council, NEC

[size=14pt]https://www.nairaland.com/273382/turn-nigeria-into-nation-federations-18-region-structure-enahoro-2009[/size]
This the notorious Enahoro who this confused Uneme-Nekhua minion has been bragging with. This Enahoro was the same hypocrite who colluded with his Northern masters to frustrate the lots of the better South in the 1960s. At just the tail end of his life on earth he began to clamour for restructuring of this country - the same idea he contributed in destroying just to get a few crumbs from his slave masters.

Read the message from a Yoruba man - Femi Fani-Kayode
 
https://www.nairaland.com/889867/ojukwu-wished-born-igbo-femi-fani-kayode
– He (Ojukwu) stood firm when others ran, compromised and did back room deals with their oppressors. He was a great and a proud warrior.

"Dim Emeka Odumegwu Ojukwu was not an ordinary person or one of the run of the mill leaders that we often eulogise after death in Nigeria. He was much more than that. I had read and heard so much about him throughout my youth and in various history books including the bestseller written by Fredrick Forsythe, his old English public school friend and biographer, titled ”Emeka” and another book titled ”The Dogs of War” which was later converted into a Hollywood blockbuster.

Yet it was only in the late eighties and early nineties that I got to know this man intimately. It was at that time that I approached him to do us the honour of being an Honorary member of the old September Club, which was the the leading ”newbreed” political club and association of that day. Anyone that was anything in those days was a member of that great club and the day that Ojukwu came to address us and have a long discussion with us was indeed a remarkable day. It was a day of revelation and truth and a real eye-opener. [b]We were all thrilled at his eloquence, his passion, his memory for detail and his determination to fight his corner and maintain his cause. I fell in love with him on that day as tears silently came to my eyes when he narrated the plight of the igbo in 1966,1967 and throughout the civil war. I will never forget that day. He inspired us all as he spoke and waived his big white horn (a symbol of his position and authority amongst the Igbo) which he held with such tenacity.

Yet it was in the privacy of his Villaska Lodge family home in Lagos, which was located on the then Queens Drive, Ikoyi, where he had kindly invited me for tea, that I became utterly enthralled with him. It was almost an obsession. I remember telling him that day that my only ambition in life after leaving Harrow (the famous British public school that I had had the privilage of attending) and Cambridge University was to join the army just as he had done after he left Epsom College and Oxford but that my father simply refused to allow it. I wondered how he had managed to pull it off given the fact that we came from similar backgrounds. He told me that unlike the Yoruba the Igbo were republican in nature and very independent-minded and that an Igbo father could not easily dictate to a son what his career should or should not be. For a brief moment I was overwhelmed and I wished that I had been born an Igbo. How different things would have been...

I have only the following to say. You stood firm and fought hard for your people when it mattered the most. Nothing else counts. A product of Epsom College, Oxford University and the illustrious and wealthy Ojukwu family from eastern Nigeria. The father of Biafra. A man of strength, vision and courage. What an extraordinary and noble heritage.[/b] We knew your father and your father’s father. They also made their mark. They were also great and powerful men. Yet you were the star that eclipsed all stars in the Nigerian firmament. Unlike many of those who have hail you only in death, you were man enough to stand up and say ”no more” and ”never again” when your people were faced with genocide and mass murder. During the civil war the Biafrans fought like great men and lions simply because they were led by a great man and a great lion. We shall continue the fight for liberation where you stopped. The battle has passed to the next generation."

Femich18:

What do you people even want...you were all crying for restructuring, now some groups are buying your idea and now you are attacking them? must you guys wail? Enough of all this hypocrisy... Election is far over my guy

lordyugo:
he knows the truth but that genetic malfunction of being fickle minded dats inbred in most of them will make him kp arguing nd distorting facts

WOCKHARDI:

I didn't say that you should secede. You are calling for true federalism and yearning for it but the beneficiaries of the lopsidedness are utterly against it. What do you do?

Deadlytruth:
Meanwhile at the same time Zik was preaching nationalism and "One-Nigeria" he accepted the offer to become the president of ISU (Igbo State Union). Who then was the real ethnic bigot if not Zik?

slimderek:
Wow.
Yoruba people Sha.
Unstable set of people

39xtr36r:


I don't think that fellow you quoted is the one who has got comprehension issues. May I remind you that part of the demands of the Avengers and some other Igbo groups include restructuring of the country and not the lip service being paid by the SW APC you mentioned.

Wyttcat:
Unstable? You sha just want to use the word I used to describe you ibos in the past, rightly so. Copycat go and check the meaning of 'unstable' and you will see it defines you ibos in detail. Yoruba has been consistent, we went to National conference in 2014 with the same request and you know that. On the other hand you ibos want to get out of biafra in one minute and want to stay in another. You want Yoruba to help fight for breaking Nigeria in one breath and in another angry that Yoruba wants to break the country, you can see that you are truly UNSTABLE. So why are you ibos fund of making comments that have nothing to do with issues on ground? I know you love to sound intelligent but as you can see, it's not working for you.

Lushore1:
Theres nothing new here, this has always be yoruba position. Check the last confab

OrlandoOwoh:
Even if you've not read their "manifesto", don't the second and third letters, A and S (actualization and sovereign) in MASSOB show that those people are secessionists?

39xtr36r:


It's becoming so disgusting the manner many of you Yorubas lie endlessly in the public like your survival depends on it.

It's an open secret that Yorubas are just too unstable to be trusted by other people.

Knowing how confused you lots are to ever stand for anything good in life you live on making a living out of Igbos quest for nationhood. Little wonder many Yorubas run amok on every media page with anti-Biafr* slogans attempting in vain to quench the call for self-determination.

 “Before the civil war started, the Yorubas said if Igbos are allowed to go, they too will go on the secession declaration.

“It was Chief Awolowo who said it openly and publicly; it was published in newspapers...
“The place Igbos left were occupied by Yoruba, particularly the civil service. 

“Till today the Yoruba are the dominant elements in the bureaucracy of Nigeria..."
- Alhaji Tanko Yakassai
Chairman of the Northern Elders Council, NEC
http://nigerianpilot.com/restructuring-calls-fears-igbos-yakassai/

39xtr36r:


If you can't support such quest then it's best you mind your business.
Having seccessionist tendencies shouldn't be your headache. For self-determination remains an inalienable right of any people. More so, we aren't born to continue to be together.

39xtr36r:


For many months now the confused Uneme-Nekhua minion has been on rampage on NL, advertising his frustrations for all to see how pained he is that many Igbos are ever determined to abandon him and his cotravellers in this fraudulent union and at the mercy of his Fulani masters whom they have spent all their lives ass-licking as if they can't do without being perpetual puppets.

Wyttcat:
You just proved it that you ibos are indeed very unstable. Go back and read what you wrote and then tell what makes sense in the whole thing to you. You are not only unstable but liars. Get a dictionary and find out what the word 'unstable' means and see you ibos picture appear beside it. We Yoruba are consistent. Awolowo addressed WESTERN house and it had nothing to do with you ibos, and what he said has been posted here many times. If you can go to war over what your neighbor is saying to his family in his living room, then your leaders are toddlers and should have themselves to blame. You have been living for Yoruba, it's time for you ibos need to start living for you. To the rest of your junk you wrote, maybe you can try again when you are coherent

39xtr36r:


Lying propagandist, keep on fooling yourself thinking you can fool other people with your silly lies and propaganda.

Yorubas should focus on finding what they want, and leave Igbos out of your frustrations.

In a piece I did last December, shortly after Ojukwu passed away, I said he was virtually pushed into war by the infidelity of the Federal side to the Aburi Accord. I still stand by that position. Ojukwu was called ‘warlord’ for many decades, but he was by no means a warmonger. He only did what he needed to do for his people–and for the country."
...
Last December, I wrote that Ojukwu should be buried like a hero. I’m glad at the rites of passage so far, culminating in the interment today. Yes, bury him like a true hero. An icon, an avatar, deserves no less. This generation will surely not see another like Ojukwu. He fought not only for his own people, but for a true federation founded on justice, fair play, equity and rectitude. Unfortunately, he did not see the Nigeria of his dreams. Will we? Adieu the Ikemba, the Eze Igbo Gburugburu. May your soul rest in peace. Ka nkpur’obi gi zue ike n’adukwa.

By Femi Adesina
Friday March 02, 2012

Source: http://www.euphemiaudanoh.com/2016/06/federal-governments-violation-of-aburi.html?utm_source=&utm_medium=facebook&m=1

39xtr36r:


"The late first President of Nigeria, Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe, played a unifying role during the civil war, despite hailing from the secessionist side."

- FORMER Head of State, Gen. Yakubu Gowon (Retd)

Wyttcat:
You are just displaying your instability here.
You just love to hear the way certain words sound in your ears when you use it. 'Lying propagandist' sound like calling ibos what they really are. See how many straws you are clinging on. It's now how Ojukwu was eulogised by Femi Adesina, which can't be corroborated, but for the low esteem suffering souls you are.

Haha! There you go again. "Yoruba should focus on what they want" when you are the monkeys that's all over Yoruba and can't survive a day without a Yoruba fix. You guys are really insane. This is a Yoruba thread talking about Yoruba and federalism, but you ibos quickly hijacked and completely took over the thread before Yoruba themselves could get a word in, yet you are talking about "leave ibos alone", talk about a crazy man forcing to hug passersby and then screaming "leave me alone", does that make sense to you?

You are incoherent, you sound mad honestly, I mean like a raving lunatic that you have always been. You have to have a serious mental problem to type these things.

Wyttcat:
You just proved it that you ibos are indeed very unstable. Go back and read what you wrote and then tell what makes sense in the whole thing to you. You are not only unstable but liars. Get a dictionary and find out what the word 'unstable' means and see you ibos picture appear beside it. We Yoruba are consistent. Awolowo addressed WESTERN house and it had nothing to do with you ibos, and what he said has been posted here many times. If you can go to war over what your neighbor is saying to his family in his living room, then your leaders are toddlers and should have themselves to blame. You have been living for Yoruba, it's time for you ibos to start living for you. To the rest of your junk you wrote, maybe you can try again when you are coherent. I didn't open your link, I don't have that kind of time, but I remember Yakkassai statement about restructuring. Yakkassai is Hausa fulani and he didn't want restructuring, so what is the connection of the link to what the discussion is here? Smh! You guys are so frustrated and now posting anything that comes to your minds.

Wyttcat:
You are just displaying your instability here.
You just love to hear the way certain words sound in your ears when you use it. 'Lying propagandist' sound like calling ibos what they really are. See how many straws you are clinging on. It's now how Ojukwu was eulogised by Femi Adesina, which can't be corroborated, but for the low esteem suffering souls you are.

Haha! There you go again. "Yoruba should focus on what they want"? when you are the monkeys that are all over Yoruba and can't survive a day without a Yoruba fix. You guys are really insane. This is a Yoruba thread talking about Yoruba and federalism, but you ibos quickly hijacked and completely took over the thread before Yoruba themselves could get a word in, yet you are talking about "leave ibos alone", talk about a crazy man forcing to hug passersby and then screaming "leave me alone", does that make sense to you?

You are incoherent, you sound mad honestly, I mean like a raving lunatic that you have always been. You have to have a serious mental problem to type these things.

millionaireman:
Who does not know that if regions or states use what is found in their areas to develop their areas and pay little tax to a central government that takes care of a say, Defense, Monetary Policy and International Relations, Nigeria shall join the league of developed countries within the shortest possible time?
There shall be no more Boko Haram, no Avengers, no IPOB, no MASSOB, no OPC, no Maitatsine, no etc, etc... because all these are political organizations seeking to have their ways in or out of Nigeria.

But northern Nigeria shall not agree to fiscal federalism because it profits a lot from the present governance system.

Not even the southwest region shall agree. During the 2014 CONFAB, Southwest representatives asked for regional government system, but without fiscal federalism. Regional government system without fiscal federalism is as bad as, or even worse than the governance system we have now.

mandhip:


U nailed it bro

Deadlytruth:
And that exactly why Ojukwu later hated him even into his grave. Why unifying his people with the Hausa-Fulanis who were busy killing them in millions? Zik remains the most unfortunate thing that ever happened to Igbos. He first sold Igbos and the entire South to Hausa-Fulani domination in 1959 through his alliance with the retrogressive and feudalistic ideology based born to rule NPC despite tens of thousands of his people had already been massacred in cold blood by NPC members. Next on the list of his blunders was to first seek the all-south UPGA alliance which he initially rejected in pursuit of his myopic and unrealistic one Nigeria dream and then later abandon the UPGA again to team up with his Northern friends once more in NNA. His next blunder was to watch like a movie the massacre of his Igbo brothers in 1966 under the nose of another Igbo man, Ironsi, in pursuit of a very worldly title of "Zik of Africa" through a fraudulent "One-Nigeria" dream. Then his next and most devastating blunder was to first be on the side of Biafra during the war and then run over to the side of Gowon when it appeared Ojukwu had started losing grip of the East. Zik was simply a classic example of AGIP.

Deadlytruth:


Pure Rubbish!!!
Those who signed the Aburi Accord were different from the Enahoro, Awolowo, etc who had been demanding a return to nothing more or less than the pre-ironsi federal arrangement, but some illiterate Hausa-Fulanis whom Gowon gathered in Aburi and against whose illiteracy Ojukwu's little intelligence shone brightly in contrast.
Had the real unrepentant federalists like Awolowo and Enahoro been in attendance in Aburi Ojukwu's so-called intelligence there would have been subdued and petered into insignificance by Awo's and Enahoro's superior intelligence. Even Ojukwu himself later said he respected Awo and declared he was the best president Nigeria never had.
There just was no way Enahoro or Awo could have signed Ojukwu's proposals had they been in attendance at Aburi that day because Ojukwu's proposals, e.g. Regional Army, etc were purely confederal ideas which Awo or Enahoro would had always, as core federalists rejected. That explains why on arrival back in Nigeria all the federalists saw those agreements and explained to Gowon and his illiterate hausa-fulani delegates that Ojukwu had succeeded in selling to them a dummy of confederacy as against a return to the pre-Ironsi federal arrangement which Ojukwu made them believe he too wanted before he went with them to Aburi.

Deadlytruth:


Zik remains the most unfortunate thing that ever happened to Igbos.

Deadlytruth:


Exactly the questions I too have asked him repeatedly. His links are always very irrelevant to the issue raised.
If you ask him why Ojukwu and Ironsi, under Zik's tutelage, came in 1966 and initiated the process which led to all this mess we are in which by ever tampering with the strictly federal structure the colonial masters left us with, he begins to bring some unrelated links and talks about Aburi Accord which all happened as a result of Ironsi and Ojukwu being the first to tamper with our federal constitution.
I don't know why he feels we should start the revisit of history from the middle rather than start from the very beginning.
He is so dishonest that you can't have a meaningful debate with him.

Wyttcat:
The guy probably has a mental probl

magicminister:
Let there be peace.
All this tribal bashing will not take us anywhere.
Anyway, true federalism is the way to go. It has always been the way to go.
Let's also give igbos some credit for being the people that laid down their lives for cause.

Mistakes have been made. We are here now!!
Let's move the fucccck on...