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| Is Religion Responsible For The Suffering? My Reply To Nairaland CEO by harlimy(op): 11:43pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
After Seun of Nairaland claimed that religious people are suffering, one begin to wonder if there is an iota of truth in it or perhaps, all he said was true. In one of my very recent articles, I discussed how certain groups of people are benefiting and on another one, I discussed how some groups of people are enjoying tremendously. We are in a world where people often relate everything in terms of religion and perhaps like my good friend 'Chika Uche' will say, everything is usually seeen from a jaundiced religious prism. In fact, we will be lieing to ourselves if we say there is any secular country in Africa. Poverty, Diseases, Delusions are just one of the few hydra-headed problems we have in Africa. So painful I once wrote a letter to God! One thing we do best In Africa is to pray. But to say all religious people are suffering may be a little far-fetched . There are some groups of people benefiting tremendously from religion. In his article, he made the following points which I'll love to counter 1.)He Called Religion a Delusion In philosophy, metaphysics is widely acknowledged and accepted. To call the belief in a diety a delusion simply because there is no proof of it may be exceedingly wrong. Lack of proof doesn't mean something doesn't exist. Decades ago, humans didn't know Dark matter or dark energy exists and here we are today... exploring science 2.) Afterlife While I must agree that every religion is widely based on the concept of afterlife and so far, there has been no proof. Aside from what we've read from old literatures like Plato's Republic , the Bible, The Torah, The Qu'ran and so on. But again, there is no proof that this doesn't exist and believing in after life doesn't limit human's capacity to attain full zen. Or does it? 3.) Tithes Tithing itself is not bad like Oluwaseun of Nairaland or any other atheist might see it. In fact, tithes can be a tool for great things. Many schools were built by the early missionaries, new churches are building schools, prominent pastors like T. Joshua are helping lives with it. If we consider tithes as a tax for helping less privileged people, is it bad? Tithes doesn't contributes to church goers miseries 4.) Healing This is a tough one to tackle. Many athiests like Seun will argue that healing does not exist in the spiritual form. And judging by the facts that ambulances take people to hospitals instead of churches we can reason the same way. More so, many pastors often go to clinics to treat themselves so this begs the question 'are spiritual healing real?' Trust me, many religions people will agree and I must say , the belief, the atmosphere in churches can as well act as a placebo 5.) Intolerance Islam has prooven itself as the bad boy of religion. Intolerance is widely preached but can we blame all Muslims for the actions of a few? Many Muslims are tolerant and many Christians have shown tolerance Oluwaseun of Nairaland clearly have his points but I'll disagree with many of them. Many religious people are living the good life. check[url] http://www.wikeria.org[/url] for more [url] http://www.wikeria.org/2016/08/is-religion-responsible-for-suffering.html?m=1[/url] Written by Alimi Taiwo Hassan for wikeria
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| Re: Is Religion Responsible For The Suffering? My Reply To Nairaland CEO by bolt000(m): 11:45pm On Aug 26, 2016*. Modified: 12:04am On Aug 27, 2016 |
I see what you are trying to do, clearly you read seun's points, there were moments when you had doubts and were convinced by his points, christians go all defensive once there is an article written to tackle their religion, the best line i can give you right now is "lets all agree to disagree".. All these articles and threads are all unending and recycled arguments. |
| Re: Is Religion Responsible For The Suffering? My Reply To Nairaland CEO by bolt000(m): 11:47pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
Brb |
| Re: Is Religion Responsible For The Suffering? My Reply To Nairaland CEO by harlimy(op): 11:48pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
Thanks. Am doing that bro |
| Re: Is Religion Responsible For The Suffering? My Reply To Nairaland CEO by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:51pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
Christians are not the ones suffering - we own close to 60 percent of the global wealth and most of the wealthiest nations of the world have the Christians preponderant ( more in numbers and superior) . But its not difficult to decipher the religion he was talking about . But the real fact remains , atheists are suffering terribly . They are on the precipice of adversities and are highly unstable mentally and emotionally . I have facts to prove this . Watch out . |
| Re: Is Religion Responsible For The Suffering? My Reply To Nairaland CEO by An2elect2(f): 11:52pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
Deep sigh. I had to press the break when op was citing old literatures and he listed the bible. And he is not even sure of anything. Tell me who gets converted this way. All these just creates room for doubts and more doubts. |
| Re: Is Religion Responsible For The Suffering? My Reply To Nairaland CEO by harlimy(op): 11:52pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Am interested in your facts. You can even write it I'll publish on wikeria.org |
| Re: Is Religion Responsible For The Suffering? My Reply To Nairaland CEO by An2elect2(f): 11:57pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:We can always agree about atheism being false and all but every other thing you say about Christians does not add up with what the bible says |
| Re: Is Religion Responsible For The Suffering? My Reply To Nairaland CEO by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:00am On Aug 27, 2016 |
An2elect2:Please quote the bible verses and show how it does not add up with what I say about Christians |
| Re: Is Religion Responsible For The Suffering? My Reply To Nairaland CEO by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:05am On Aug 27, 2016 |
harlimy:I'll mention you when I'm tru What about this one , can you help me post it : https://www.nairaland.com/3286519/communist-leaders-killed-millions-because I stated facts and quotes to prove to my topic . |
| Re: Is Religion Responsible For The Suffering? My Reply To Nairaland CEO by An2elect2(f): 12:07am On Aug 27, 2016 |
| Re: Is Religion Responsible For The Suffering? My Reply To Nairaland CEO by An2elect2(f): 12:08am On Aug 27, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Not yet. Until you have proven how biblical Christians make up above 60% of the wealthiest in the world. While celebrating and revealing our rich "Christians" please do keep your eyes on the acts of the apostles, the epistles of paul and then come back and look at the "gospel" books again and convince me you didn't see glaring contradictions. |
| Re: Is Religion Responsible For The Suffering? My Reply To Nairaland CEO by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:12am On Aug 27, 2016 |
An2elect2:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_and_religion http://www.cnbc.com/2015/01/14/the-religion-of-millionaires-.html I have provided proof , show me yours then we can discuss ![]() |
| Re: Is Religion Responsible For The Suffering? My Reply To Nairaland CEO by An2elect2(f): 12:18am On Aug 27, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Ok pls go read up all the scriptures i pointed out except you don't believe them too. That's where my proof lies. Except those links are talking of spiritual wealth in Christ, i don't see why a Christian brother would want me to look at them. |
| Re: Is Religion Responsible For The Suffering? My Reply To Nairaland CEO by werthy(m): 1:44am On Aug 27, 2016 |
bolt000:An you felt you made sense..... |
| Re: Is Religion Responsible For The Suffering? My Reply To Nairaland CEO by bolt000(m): 1:51am On Aug 27, 2016 |
werthy:Oh Lawd!!
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| Re: Is Religion Responsible For The Suffering? My Reply To Nairaland CEO by werthy(m): 1:59am On Aug 27, 2016 |
bolt000:you are fortunate i dont have time to dig it out with you this morning...... enjoy your stupidity while it last |
| Re: Is Religion Responsible For The Suffering? My Reply To Nairaland CEO by Nobody: 8:01am On Aug 27, 2016 |
Lol @op, I had a revelation where you deactivated this moniker months/years from now and came back to nairaland with a new one as a non religious person ![]() I'm just joking o But to the op, the only reason why you see us complaining about religion is because of the evils perpetrated in its name. Look at how religion is used as a trump card in politics. Yes, even in American politics people like Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee played the religion card. Look at the terrorism committed in the name of an imaginary being. Those are even extreme examples, what about the annoying church near my house that rape my Friday nights with their unending vigils? Or the American that razed a forest, without growing it back, spending $110million, just to build a replica of Noah's ark?? All in vain! If religion was more of a personal thing, who'd care? Does anybody come and fight you for being a Chelsea fan? For those who believe Chelsea FC is trash, do they spend hours of their life writing convincing articles to prove why Chelsea isn't the best team? (I'm a Chelsea fan o). Religion has gotten to the point that they make ordinary people feel guilty for perfectly harmless things. Do you know the kind of stress guilt is? Do you know it leads to depression in some cases, which can lead to suicide? All for nothing! ***** I see one confused fellow up there trying hard, as usual, to make atheism into a religion. Lol. |
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