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lalaboi:
Don't care what anyone says. . Whoever is behind this purchase of Alonso for 20Mil and Luiz for 34Mil is making a mockery of us fans.

To think we were all hailing them for selling off Luiz for 40M back then, they have just undone whatever level of highness or pride we had from that deal. .

What is an Alonso for 20M??

"The presence of a director of football acts as an intermediary between the manager and the board and may relieve pressure on a manager by handling aspects away from day-to-day coaching, allowing a manager to focus on on-pitch performance. The director may also help to stabilise the club – many examples exist of director stepping in as a caretaker manager on the departure of the manager. The director – often an experienced football figure – may also positively advise a less experienced manager or the board of a less well developed club."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Director_of_football

''Generally though it is often perceived both within and outside the football club as an alternative form of the dreaded vote of confidence for an under-performing or inexperienced manager. At other times, this appointment is viewed as a direct threat to the manager's autonomy and authority and often marks the literal 'beginning of the end' for the manager in question at a specific club.

The technical director role is generally different to that of a director of football, a position which usually involves overseeing the signing of players''

https://www.quora.com/What-does-a-technical-or-sporting-director-at-a-football-club-do

That explained, I'll have to ask, who is our technical director? Ans: Micheal Emenalo. Lalaboi look no farther for your answer.

Griffon, this one is for you

Chestar5:
TBH, we actually signed three players who are to play champions league football dis season...... Bats,rat and geezer

Pataki will pretend he didn't see this even when Griffon cc him....

Ibime:
Griffon, this one is for you

Bia Ibime no aggravate my hunger now. Biko.

Ibime:
Griffon, this one is for you

Omo Zuckerberg doing his thing.

Griffon:
"The presence of a director of football acts as an intermediary between the manager and the board and may relieve pressure on a manager by handling aspects away from day-to-day coaching, allowing a manager to focus on on-pitch performance. The director may also help to stabilise the club – many examples exist of director stepping in as a caretaker manager on the departure of the manager. The director – often an experienced football figure – may also positively advise a less experienced manager or the board of a less well developed club."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Director_of_football

''Generally though it is often perceived both within and outside the football club as an alternative form of the dreaded vote of confidence for an under-performing or inexperienced manager. At other times, this appointment is viewed as a direct threat to the manager's autonomy and authority and often marks the literal 'beginning of the end' for the manager in question at a specific club.

The technical director role is generally different to that of a director of football, a position which usually involves overseeing the signing of players''

https://www.quora.com/What-does-a-technical-or-sporting-director-at-a-football-club-do

That explained, I'll have to ask, who is our technical director? Ans: Micheal Emenalo. Lalaboi look no farther for your answer.

I think you need to re-read the links you posted.

They actually suggest that a TD is less responsible for tranfers

Conte is fully in charge of transfer direction this window.

We saw it in all the players we were linked with - every single one of them was down the central spine of the team.

If Emenalo was calling shots, you will hear the usual rigmaroll of Chelsea chasing 100 wingers. Emenalo did not even get a penny to spend on loan army this window. We signed 4 very young players for pennies for the development squad

The Luiz signing had Contes blessing. Luiz was not on his wishlist, but on deadline day, after failing to land CB targets, the club told him Luiz was available and he approved. It does not concern Conte that Luiz only has 4 years left in his legs. Conte will be gone within 3 years like every Chelsea manager.

Woooooooooow!!!!

Nihilist:
I think you need to re-read the links you posted.

They actually suggests that a TD is less responsible for tranfers

Less responsible? From your perspective, who calls more of the shot? The manager?

Nihilist:
Woooooooooow!!!!

Ibime is a man of truth. Look how he admitted that, look how. . .

Griffon:
Less responsible? From your perspective, who calls more of the shot? The manager?

I'm not getting involved in that discussion, only pointing out how your link doesnt actually support your position.

Read again.

"The technical director role is generally different to that of a director of football, a position which usually involves overseeing the signing of players.

The technical director looks after a whole host of things that offer an element of continuity above and beyond the to-ing and fro-ing of individual managers. The role tends to include, and this is by no means a comprehensive list: responsibility for and the overseeing of the academy, the training ground, the infrastructure, medical, physiotherapy, conditioning, fitness, nutrition, hydration, rest, well being, and culture and behavioural standards within the club.

The technical director can also have a remit for coaching programmes and philosophy (coaching the coaches). It is a role typically found within a nation's football association as well as big and also ambitious smaller clubs. It tends to be a role designed to facilitate long-term strategy and continuity independent of a manager's remit with the team."

The statement initially defines what a Director of Football does, i.e. overseeing the signing of players - before going on to differenitiate between the two roles by crucially listing the duties of a TD - which as you probably have noticed, do not include recruitment.

Wrong link bro.

Griffon:
Ibime is a man of truth. Look how he admitted that, look how. . .

You should seen that coming as soon as you started reading thinhgs like 'Alonso is okay', 'Luiz is servicaable', and 'The spine is not too bad'

Far be it from Ibime to let Emenalo dare take the credit for Kante

Griffon:
Ibime is a man of truth. Look how he admitted that, look how. . .

You can't blame Emenalo for Luiz.

Luiz is a personal favourite of Abramovic.

PSG offered Luiz to Chelsea earlier in the week, Abramovic was keen, Conte was initially lukewarm but gave his blessing yesterday when it looked like nothing else would materialise.

Nihilist:
Far be it from Ibime to let Emenalo dare take the credit for Kante

Emenalo has already given Conte the credit for Kante in case you missed it. Why should I bother.

I know my club, I know the characters and their outlook on football.

I am against Luiz signing but I won't pin it on Emenalo.

Alonso I actually rate as decent, but so is Ake.

Griffon:
I see one man shaking every ninja's hand. One man.

so conte signed kante and bat while Emenalo signed alonso and luiz??

Griffon:
Conte is chilling off somewhere in Italy. Before he left, he had already instructed the Stamford Bridge hierarchy to land him a decent CB and of course a good LB. He must have also instructed them to chase targets that would suit his conservative approach (Romagnalio, Koulibaly et al).

He is chilling off in Italy because it's the international week. Oh Jesus! He's chilling off in Italy, seriously nyanshing the wife and spending some time at the beach while. . . while these evils get committed.

Seun don't tell me you don't know who the usual suspect is? Well, they say pictures don't lie brah.

this is so full of lies..

keeping fabregas at chelsea despite the all the rumours is the second best deal for me after securing the service of ngolo kante.

Nihilist:
Oh please. How many Bayern Yoots dey una first team? This is not about youth. We would not be having this discussion if the club had recruited better.

3 of our back 4. Lahm Alaba Hummels? and Muller. 3 to 4 out of 11. I doubt 3 elite clubs in the whole of europe has that

Griffon:
Inasmuch as I've been towing the path of sarcasm, I still believe most of these 'shady' deals are being sanctioned by Emenalo. Believe me, I am not doing that over-flogged debate of who signs who and who doesn't sign who, but we all know that it is the TD who sanctions transfers, abi the role got re-defined in Emenalo's case?

in your word Emenalo sanctions and identify targets, so why are you not giving him credit for signing kante and bat; D

Griffon:
"The presence of a director of football acts as an intermediary between the manager and the board and may relieve pressure on a manager by handling aspects away from day-to-day coaching, allowing a manager to focus on on-pitch performance. The director may also help to stabilise the club – many examples exist of director stepping in as a caretaker manager on the departure of the manager. The director – often an experienced football figure – may also positively advise a less experienced manager or the board of a less well developed club."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Director_of_football

''Generally though it is often perceived both within and outside the football club as an alternative form of the dreaded vote of confidence for an under-performing or inexperienced manager. At other times, this appointment is viewed as a direct threat to the manager's autonomy and authority and often marks the literal 'beginning of the end' for the manager in question at a specific club.

The technical director role is generally different to that of a director of football, a position which usually involves overseeing the signing of players''

https://www.quora.com/What-does-a-technical-or-sporting-director-at-a-football-club-do

That explained, I'll have to ask, who is our technical director? Ans: Micheal Emenalo. Lalaboi look no farther for your answer.

what you posted did not even tell us Emenalo oversees transfer..

in summary through your post a technical director is just the eyes of the owner of the club.

Ibime:
Conte is fully in charge of transfer direction this window.

We saw it in all the players we were linked with - every single one of them was down the central spine of the team.

If Emenalo was calling shots, you will hear the usual rigmaroll of Chelsea chasing 100 wingers. Emenalo did not even get a penny to spend on loan army this window. We signed 4 very young players for pennies for the development squad

The Luiz signing had Contes blessing. Luiz was not on his wishlist, but on deadline day, after failing to land CB targets, the club told him Luiz was available and he approved. It does not concern Conte that Luiz only has 4 years left in his legs. Conte will be gone within 3 years like every Chelsea manager.

raumdeuter:
3 of our back 4. Lahm Alaba Hummels? and Muller. 3 to 4 out of 11. I doubt 3 elite clubs in the whole of europe has that

hummels is from your youth but he didn't break into first 11 from youth, so remove him

Ibime:
Griffon, this one is for you

I think that was when he arrived Kenya

timbros:
Pataki will pretend he didn't see this even when Griffon cc him....

he already ignore d mention sef

Ibime:
Conte is fully in charge of transfer direction this window.

We saw it in all the players we were linked with - every single one of them was down the central spine of the team.

If Emenalo was calling shots, you will hear the usual rigmaroll of Chelsea chasing 100 wingers. Emenalo did not even get a penny to spend on loan army this window. We signed 4 very young players for pennies for the development squad

The Luiz signing had Contes blessing. Luiz was not on his wishlist, but on deadline day, after failing to land CB targets, the club told him Luiz was available and he approved. It does not concern Conte that Luiz only has 4 years left in his legs. Conte will be gone within 3 years like every Chelsea manager .

do you believe in miracles nd consistency??

A40:
Azpi is not a LB not an optimal one at least. You are merely abusing his versatility and it has hurt your team both at LB and at RB. Azpi coulda been a great RB he is now a middling LB while you have a 32 y.o at the other side of the park

Chelsea know this too that is why they have spent almost £60m trying to rectify that problem


Did you know Hector prior to the Euros? Aren't you curious that none of the big clubs in Germany went after him? He's a solid LB anyway but its not a given he would adjust to a new league.
Similar case with Rodriguez and I doubt Wolfsburg were going to sell, they already told Draxler point blank he was not going anywhere. They have made almost €95m on De Bruyne and Schürrle alone so money isn't their problem rn

Alonso should not cost more than £5-8m. He is not better than Bertrand or the PvA you offloaded


Bertrand has made P.F.A team of the year since he left Chelsea, only player from Southampton to do so. He was a serviceable full back and couldn't have done worse than his replacements have. I am not even talking about just Bertrand alone I'm saying if you are going to keep buying the likes David Lulz, Baba Rahman, Marcos Alonso, Cuadrado then you might as well give your PVA's, Ake's, Bertrand's etc a shot.


You have to realize that part of that reckless folly is not giving your yoots a shot. Especially in a position that merely requires competent personnel not exceptional ones


Lol what am I justifying? You are on your 3rd LB, blown through almost £60m and your starting LB is actually a RB. So it is apparent that the club cannot recruit better. Football is the only sport you can get away with that kind of recklessness

thumbs up for abeg.i couldn't have agreed less.

Ibime:
Aside my disappointment over the crazy fee spent on Luiz, I would say we have had an above average transfer window by our standards.

We all identified LB, CB, CM and CF as our needs for the season and that is exactly what we got.

We got a great CM and Striker in Kante and Batsuayi

And I would say a serviceable LB and CB in Alonso and Luiz, although the price is highly questionable.

This makes a great change from previous seasons when one Aba made clown was running things. This is the first window in a long time when Chelsea were not even linked with a single winger expect maybe Gabigol.

We did not hear of any interest in Talisca, Taison, Bruma, Kenedy, Adrian, Willian, Atsu, and hundred other wingers like the Aba-made TD likes to do every season.

Even though we did not get our first choice LB and CB, we still bought in the positions we needed. That is a good transfer window in my opinion considering.

i agree with you on this.
We should please allow this guys to play first and see what they can offer. We should give them and the coach the benefit of the doubt. At all, at all, the players much play to the coach's instruction.

popizaino:
keeping fabregas at chelsea despite the all the rumours is the second best deal for me after securing the service of ngolo kante.

I totally agree with this. it woulda been bad if Fan was sold. I do hope he gets his chances with the team and use them well.

Chestar5:
do you believe in miracles nd consistency??

No I don't believe in fairytales. Since I was born, only one manager has lasted 4 seasons at Chelsea and I'm the same age as Jesus was when he finished his ministry!

Ibime:
No I don't believe in fairytales. Since I was born, only one manager has lasted 4 seasons at Chelsea and I'm the same age as Jesus was when he finished his ministry!

its not fairytales, its just too early to conclude what ll happen to conte at chelsea

and who would add me to CFC whatsapp group

Nihilist:
You're not saying anything new. Azpi is still better than all the options we've had since the footballing demise of Ashley Cole...and he is a very good if slightly limited left back

Are you looking for a LB to dislodge Azpi or deputize him. Hold that thought cos whichever you choose holding on to Ake or Bertrand or PVA would be much better than pissing almost £60m on Alonso, Luiz and Rahman

Nihilist:
Don't get hung up on Hector and RicRod. Those were just examples, I could have also mentioned Lucas Digne or Jose Gaya or even Zuniga.

Zuniga ke? Do you know how long that one was chopping bench at Napoli before they sent him to Watford? I'm saying it is possible but unlikely that Ake or Bertrand would have done significantly worse than any of the 5 ninjas you mentioned. The CL teams you have from your league have Danny Rose and Danny Simpson at fullback. Fancy names from Continental Europe is not always the answer bros

Nihilist:
Bertrand is crap. He made TOTY in Southampton's best EPL season ever under their best manager ever. That was anomaly. That entire backline has now left Southampton except for Fonte and Bertrand. Wanyama and Schneiderlin that protected the back 4 that year have also left. Even the manager has left sef. The good always leave Southampton. Only the dross stays behind.

Of course it was an anomaly, still it proves my point. There is something there that someone or some people are just too lazy to nurture. In the last two decades John Racist is about your only academy player of note. It is appalling that you guys cannot boast of 1 serviceable yoot player in your squad

Of all the 'good' players that left Southampton in the last 2-3 seasons or so name just 1 player that has gone on to achieve anything. Go on I'll wait

Nihilist:
Oh please. How many Bayern Yoots dey una first team? This is not about youth. We would not be having this discussion if the club had recruited better. The youth we had are either crap or not ready yet. Like I said, whatever leftback we get has to be better than Azpilicueta....and so far 6 players have tried to displace and failed Azpi under 3 managers. Your suggestion reeks of "at all, at all" and that's clearly not a sustainable way for thinking for the club.

Müller, Lahm, Alaba, Badstuber, Hummels. There has been a significant drop in quality of our youth squad but our record when it comes to integrating is not as abysmal as yours

Most of the Leftbacks significantly better than Azpi are tied down to other clubs (Alaba, Marcelo, Alba, Rodriguez) even younguns like Kurzawa, Digne are presumably out of reach. If you do feel playing lotto on sankwa players like Alonso, Baba Rahman e.t.c is a better and more sustainable option then everything Odinma. Bear in mind however that the guy at RB is on the wrong side of 30

Nihilist:
There's a difference between 'cannot' and 'has not', and clearly the club CAN recruit better. The fact they HAVE not does not imply that they CANNOT. Correlation does not equal Causation.

Please I dont like hearing Bertrand's name. That fellow is crap.

The pool of outstanding talents at LB is not that deep, I think you are not realizing or acknowledging this. I hate to be the carrier of a bad news but majority of the talents you are looking for to displace Azpi are tied down at other clubs