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Re: Ondo Guber: Owo Community To Send Emissary To Tinubu On Akeredolu’s Candidacy by basilo101: 9:33pm On Sep 13, 2016
Lol, if Tinubu relocates to the east he will sent to political dustbin in one year, ask Orji Uzo Kalu and Peter Obi. Godfatherism is dead in SE and SS
Re: Ondo Guber: Owo Community To Send Emissary To Tinubu On Akeredolu’s Candidacy by AZeD1(m): 6:50pm On Sep 14, 2016
basilo101:
Lol, if Tinubu relocates to the east he will sent to political dustbin in one year, ask Orji Uzo Kalu and Peter Obi. Godfatherism is dead in SE and SS
Ibori still controls Delta State.
Till his death, Alams controlled Bayelsa.

Tinubu is relevant because he knows how to play the game.
Off all politicians who contested in 1999, only Tinubu and Obj are still revenant in the schemes of things today.


Tinubu is not a God father in the way he is portrayed(my way or the high way)

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Re: Ondo Guber: Owo Community To Send Emissary To Tinubu On Akeredolu’s Candidacy by babyfaceafrica: 8:20pm On Sep 14, 2016
senatorbayor:



How come Tinubu can't use same structure and finances to ensure victory for his candidate (Segun Abraham)

Note that in politics! What Aketi is doing to reach out to all leaders of APC is normal and even if Tinubu refused, same people who finance Aketi will eventually bankroll his election.
It's normal to make overtures to even your political enemies.
aketi played local politics,but election is a different ball game...I doubt if aketi can fund an mobilise to win,primary election is different
Re: Ondo Guber: Owo Community To Send Emissary To Tinubu On Akeredolu’s Candidacy by senatorbayor(m): 11:32pm On Sep 14, 2016
babyfaceafrica:
aketi played local politics,but election is a different ball game...I doubt if aketi can fund an mobilise to win,primary election is different

Yes I agree that Aketi needs cool cash to run the main election!
Have we wondered to know those who funded the primaries for him to beat the candidate of Tinubu.

Politics is about interest and those who have interest in him could finance his election in as much as their interest will be protected.
No be only tinubu get money to spend for election.
Re: Ondo Guber: Owo Community To Send Emissary To Tinubu On Akeredolu’s Candidacy by babyfaceafrica: 11:58pm On Sep 14, 2016
senatorbayor:


Yes I agree that Aketi needs cool cash to run the main election!
Have we wondered to know those who funded the primaries for him to beat the candidate of Tinubu.

Politics is about interest and those who have interest in him could finance his election in as much as their interest will be protected.
No be only tinubu get money to spend for election.
let the person who fund his primary,help him win election then,let them leave tinubu alone

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Re: Ondo Guber: Owo Community To Send Emissary To Tinubu On Akeredolu’s Candidacy by bolinxman: 1:13am On Sep 15, 2016
senatorbayor:


Yes I agree that Aketi needs cool cash to run the main election!
Have we wondered to know those who funded the primaries for him to beat the candidate of Tinubu.

Politics is about interest and those who have interest in him could finance his election in as much as their interest will be protected.
No be only tinubu get money to spend for election.
I'm from Ondo State,Tinubu influence is not all about financial aspect,but he has the needed political foot soldiers within Ondo state that will make Aketi's political aspiration a mirage,he needs to beg him. Aketi's attitudinal dispositions and his unguided utterances before the primary election has revealed that he is an ingrate.
Re: Ondo Guber: Owo Community To Send Emissary To Tinubu On Akeredolu’s Candidacy by senatorbayor(m): 7:37am On Sep 15, 2016
bolinxman:
I'm from Ondo State,Tinubu influence is not all about financial aspect,but he has the needed political foot soldiers within Ondo state that will make Aketi's political aspiration a mirage,he needs to beg him. Aketi's attitudinal dispositions and his unguided utterances before the primary election has revealed that he is an ingrate.


There you go again, making a tin god out of tinubu. How come his foot solders did not ensure victory for his candidate in the primaries.
How come same men could not ensure victory for Aketi in 2012 when Tinubu was fully in charge of Aketi.
I think we must understand the fact that law of diminishing returns will always set in for any system be it political or otherwise.
You can't have it all every time.
APC now have so many interest and Tinubu interest is one out of many.
I don't understand why an Aketi should go and BEG a tinubu before he can succeed.
Haba! When are we gonna be free of godfatherism.
I am sure Mimiko begged Tinubu before he won his own election.
We as young minds should seek for a system that will promote mentorship to godfatherism so that the system won't be control by one man and the whole state or nation will be at his mercy.
Good morning
Re: Ondo Guber: Owo Community To Send Emissary To Tinubu On Akeredolu’s Candidacy by senatorbayor(m): 7:48am On Sep 15, 2016
babyfaceafrica:
let the person who fund his primary,help him win election then,let them leave tinubu alone

Did Tinubu complain to you that they are disturbing him grin

In politics, we only have permanent interest.
If a tinubu could support GEJ in 2011 and later kicked against him in 2015 shows these politicians need one another to protect their interest.

The idea of reaching out to every party leaders and candidates after the election is a norm in politics.
The choice is left for Tinubu to accept the overtures and give his own conditions for support or reject it.
That does not mean Aketi won't win or loose with or without Tinubu.
2012 have proved that with Tinubu, he dd not win, let him reach out to the people of Ondo who are the determinant of his ambition.
The idea of making a tin god out of a single man should be condemn in totality.
Every candidate could reach out to party leaders for supports but should never make such leaders a sole determinant of his or her political career.
Good morning
Re: Ondo Guber: Owo Community To Send Emissary To Tinubu On Akeredolu’s Candidacy by babyfaceafrica: 7:55am On Sep 15, 2016
senatorbayor:


Did Tinubu complain to you that they are disturbing him grin

In politics, we only have permanent interest.
If a tinubu could support GEJ in 2011 and later kicked against him in 2015 shows these politicians need one another to protect their interest.

The idea of reaching out to every party leaders and candidates after the election is a norm in politics.
The choice is left for Tinubu to accept the overtures and give his own conditions for support or reject it.
That does not mean Aketi won't win or loose with or without Tinubu.
2012 have proved that with Tinubu, he dd not win, let him reach out to the people of Ondo who are the determinant of his ambition.
The idea of making a tin god out of a single man should be condemn in totality.
Every candidate could reach out to party leaders for supports but should never make such leaders a sole determinant of his or her political career.
Good morning
did u see the primary results..if aketi no do well..he will lose even in APC strongholds...
Re: Ondo Guber: Owo Community To Send Emissary To Tinubu On Akeredolu’s Candidacy by kernel504(m): 8:45am On Sep 15, 2016
LouisVanGaal:
...And the wailers said tinubu's influence is fluke...LOL!
Whatever Aketi had done to get tinubu vexed..he better go and prostrate before him..@ least appeal to his sentiment..let them re-allign..else he's on his own!
Tinubu has the ear of PMB whether you like it or not...as we can see how a Segun Abraham, who was literally unknown by all before the month of August..narrowly lost APC's flag bearership to rotimi who is a National figure..courtesy of Jagaban..
It would hard for Tinubu's influence to whittle down, because he KNOWS how to keep his LOYALISTS HAPPY..thereby check-mated

Men like Dino and Saraki defiled him, made mockery of his assumed influence, even Fashola.
Re: Ondo Guber: Owo Community To Send Emissary To Tinubu On Akeredolu’s Candidacy by senatorbayor(m): 9:15am On Sep 15, 2016
babyfaceafrica:
did u see the primary results..if aketi no do well..he will lose even in APC strongholds...

I watched the primary and so far, the process is fair

If Aketi lost, note that he is representing APC and that means it's APC that lost the election and they have lost a state then.
All parties involve should close ranks and support who has emerged.
That's the spirit of sportsmanship in politics
Re: Ondo Guber: Owo Community To Send Emissary To Tinubu On Akeredolu’s Candidacy by afroniger: 9:21am On Sep 15, 2016
senatorbayor:


I watched the primary and so far, the process is fair

If Aketi lost, note that he is representing APC and that means it's APC that lost the election and they have lost a state then.
All parties involve should close ranks and support who has emerged.
That's the spirit of sportsmanship in politics

As an outsider I will like to ask you this and please answer in all sincerity. If indeed the delegates list were truly tampered with and there's evidence to prove that, what do you suggest should be done? Would you consider that fair to other candidates of the election and that it should be swept under the carpet? Forget Tinubu for a minute.
Re: Ondo Guber: Owo Community To Send Emissary To Tinubu On Akeredolu’s Candidacy by babyfaceafrica: 9:51am On Sep 15, 2016
senatorbayor:


I watched the primary and so far, the process is fair

If Aketi lost, note that he is representing APC and that means it's APC that lost the election and they have lost a state then.
All parties involve should close ranks and support who has emerged.
That's the spirit of sportsmanship in politics
youcant lose what you don't have
Re: Ondo Guber: Owo Community To Send Emissary To Tinubu On Akeredolu’s Candidacy by senatorbayor(m): 1:10pm On Sep 15, 2016
afroniger:


As an outsider I will like to ask you this and please answer in all sincerity. If indeed the delegates list were truly tampered with and there's evidence to prove that, what do you suggest should be done? Would you consider that fair to other candidates of the election and that it should be swept under the carpet? Forget Tinubu for a minute.

There should be substantial evidence to prove that the list of the delegates was tampered with.
Moreso! Those involved should be dealt with if truly it was doctored.

Note that there is no perfect process of election.
The only reason the election could be cancelled is a proof to show that those delegates alleged to have being doctored would have change the outcome of the election to make it substantial enough.

Evidence must abound that those who were smuggled as delegates did vote for a particular candidates.

What if the doctored delegates did vote for the man who raise complain to the panel.?

I doubt if there will be evidence to show that any doctored delegates votes could be traced to any of the contestant since its secret ballot voting except the delegate want to implicate himself as getting involve in malpractices and that could earn him or her a jail for criminal offence
Despite evidences of malpractices! If such is not substantial to decide the outcome of an election, such election still stand and could pass for being fair in the eyes of the law.

Good aft
Re: Ondo Guber: Owo Community To Send Emissary To Tinubu On Akeredolu’s Candidacy by afroniger: 4:55pm On Sep 15, 2016
senatorbayor:


There should be substantial evidence to prove that the list of the delegates was tampered with.
Moreso! Those involved should be dealt with if truly it was doctored.

Note that there is no perfect process of election.
The only reason the election could be cancelled is a proof to show that those delegates alleged to have being doctored would have change the outcome of the election to make it substantial enough.

Evidence must abound that those who were smuggled as delegates did vote for a particular candidates.

What if the doctored delegates did vote for the man who raise complain to the panel.?

I doubt if there will be evidence to show that any doctored delegates votes could be traced to any of the contestant since its secret ballot voting except the delegate want to implicate himself as getting involve in malpractices and that could earn him or her a jail for criminal offence
Despite evidences of malpractices! If such is not substantial to decide the outcome of an election, such election still stand and could pass for being fair in the eyes of the law.

Good aft

If you're being sincere then your response is not bad after all. I believe fairness should be the watchword here as the other aggrieved candidates should feel a sense of belonging and not feel cheated. Good afternoon to you too.

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