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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 7:41pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
timbros: The players are letting him down defensively no question. But Mancity Arsenal and Liverpool are very dodgy at thr back but excel going forward. We have a striker in superhot form and Hazard. The manager doesn't look like he is trying to get the best out of them to me. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 7:47pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
timbros:i never said he should criticize the players. But, he should say that they played well when the didn't. He should say they didn't play as they are supposed to, but they won and would still work to improve. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 7:49pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
Nihilist:exactly my sentiments. His Italian team really pleased me. That is what I want. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 7:49pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
timbros:i hope so. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 8:06pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
Greatihex: If you SINCERELY believe that chelsea can win the title this season, I think you should wake up from that dream. As it stands, this squad can only dream of the 4th position. Anything above that, defies logic and is a miracle. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iPopAlomo(m): 8:09pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
I some how enjoy reading the lamentations of Chelshit fans... Hahaha... evil laugh... |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iPopAlomo(m): 8:11pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
Conte Out!!! sounds more like... Cunt_ out!!! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 8:13pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
Greatihex: His Italian team really pleased you. How do you think that came about? Because he got to choose his own freaking players. You know he can do a good job; indeed you have been pleased by one of his teams but you are unwilling to give him time to choose his own players, build his own team and get a chance to please you. You guys are spoilt. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SlaughterGang: 8:16pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
Chelshit_ Fans already gnashing their teeth, this should be a good venue for parties this season.
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Decentpee(m): 8:24pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
Ibime: Congratulation; man. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:35pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
Greatihex: That's the reason he quickly swapped formation but it was obvious the formation looked foreign to them. How quick they can master it is what i dont know. He just needs a lot of drills on some players like alonso, cahill and co at training sessions. At this point no blunders at the back will be tolerated. Willian and moses sometimes got confused in their roles on the pitch. Matic being the anchor was scary today but we scaled through he would have been red-carded. He was caught out of position more than once and deserved cards. All these errors might be suicidal against top teams and like you said let's give him the benefit of the doubt, how conte would be able to fix all the lows in the team will go a long way in reconfirming his earlier rating. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 8:44pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
donjazet:no, not the title, but we should stay close. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 8:47pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
nateevs:we all saw how an article pointed out that the coach only asked for kante and few other players. While Batshayi is an emenalo signing. If he was really serious about signing players, he would have gotten at least 2/3 of them. Well, let us just wait and see. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 9:15pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
Nihilist: Excel going forward you say. ManCity - Sterling, Aguero, Molito, Toure, Gundogan, Silva, DeBRyune, Sane, Ihenacho . . . . Arsenal - Carzola, Xhaka, Ozil, Ramsey, Perez, Chamberlain, Sanchez, Iwobi, Liverpool - Lallana, Wijnaldum, Coutinho, Firminio, Mane, Surridge, Origi. . . Have you seen those players? Please tell me what is common with these players? Brilliant technical ability on the ball, passing ability way above average, vision and football intelligence. Tell me if this doesn't immediately half the work of the manager. Please tell me what we have at Chelsea. I mean, Ramires was being paraded as one of the starting 11 of Chelsea this time last year by Mr Defensive football, while the likes of DeBruyne, Mata, Luiz and other ball holding players were being sold. Rami-fucking-res in our midfield for Bleep's sake - only because he could run. For 3 seasons, I complained about the same deficiencies - Hazard being our only creative outlet. I complained about Willian being of average output, about our 'method of attack' amongst many others. Now these issues we consciously condoned are coming back to bite us in the ass. Let's have perspective for heaven's sake. This problem did not start today. When we were busy spending billions arranging a mechanical team and hailing the system that created it, I was stating for years that you cannot build a dynasty when your first approach to football is preventing others from playing. Over a billion spent and we are back where we started - mid-table. This is not Conte's fault. Let the man some space and let us for once, accept that we need time to build anything long-lasting. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AdisaOwala: 9:39pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
timbros: His Ultra-defensive & Highly Cautious Approach you mean? During his stint at Juve (and even with the Azzuris), his obsession with the 3-5-2 formation and the kinda players he used literally sums up his " Coaching philosophy" - Conte seems to be the kinda manager that thrives best where there isn't too much pressure to succeed (and impress if need be). |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 9:44pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
nateevs: Same thing Conte is doing |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 10:16pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
bigkesh: For a manager renowned for playing 2 strikers, 3 defenders, and wing-backs, it will be an extremely misplaced argument, suggesting that Conte's first approach is preventing the opposition from playing. There is a difference between trying to solidify the team and making it hard to beat and downright parking the bus. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 10:19pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
nateevs:Time will tell |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 10:22pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
We need to raid Bundesliga and Ligue 1......Gladbach,BVB and Schakle Goretzka,Pulisic,Dahoud,Brandt,Tolisso,Lemar,Fekir e.t.c Seriously I can't keep watching Willian,Oscar,Matic and co...... |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 10:28pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
AdisaOwala: A big club like Juventus finished the season in 7th position consecutively. Any coach taking over the reigns from Delneri is sure under pressure to perform. Conte came and perform he did, winning a hattrick of Serie A. Conte doesn't shy away from pressure. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SlaughterGang: 10:29pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
bigkesh: Time to spend some of your daddy's money eh?
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 10:58pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
bigkesh: We own Mario Pasalic, a player I believe shouldn't have gone on loan. We can do with him now. I hope Conte can see this. If we can buy back Thorgan Hazard, buy a new DM and allow Kante play box to box. Pasalic, Kante and Thorgan will give us good options. We can create a better team, pending the summer when we can make wholesome changes. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:19pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
Dmitri Payet goal be like JayJay Okocha's famous goal for Franfurth vs Oliver Khan. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 11:49pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
Ibime:I like Payet but that defence was completely useless |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 12:03am On Oct 02, 2016 |
nateevs:Now 5 in 9 and 4 in 4 Another freekick tonight...... We can recall him from Vitesse without a problem |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by aieo(m): 7:53am On Oct 02, 2016 |
Ibime:Payet is too good for west Ham, he should move in January |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 8:16am On Oct 02, 2016 |
@Ibime Baba congrats on the new arrival. May she bring more blessings on your household 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 9:17am On Oct 02, 2016 |
nateevs: Good morning Egbon nateevs. Happy Sunday and Eku Independence. With all due respect, I feel that your post up there has actually undermined your argument rather than strengthened it. Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City have largely unchanged squads to last season but the results couldn't be anymore different. Liverpool that finished in 8th place last season are now mountinh a title charge. City that barely managed to get into 4th place last season are looking nigh on unstoppable now. Arsenal that capitulated their title challenge in such spectacular manner are playing like men on a mission. Bar one or two players, the overwhelming majority of the players you mentioned were at the same clubs last season. So what's changed? Pep went to City and has completely ignored defending and focused on attack. Wenger is now playing Sanchez up front, which has allowed Walcott back into the team with devastating effect. Klopp's system was already looking like bearing dividends having appeared in two finals last season, and with one or two additions to the squad, has crafted a tsystem so deadly that their best striker can't even make the first 11. Good players are great to have, but a great system makes average players look great. Compare sterling of last season to this season. Look at what's happening at Spurs. Lamela, Son, Dembele, Sissoko. These are all players that were suffering stagnation in their careers until they met Pochettino. So yeah we might have some crap players. But I have not seen anything from Conte to suggest that he has the ability to get the best out of these guys. That's where I'm coming from. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 9:38am On Oct 02, 2016 |
Nihilist:You really hit the nail on the head. I've always been reserved when pple dwell on transfers and undermine training and playing with a system that will bring the best out of the players. It's a shame fans and even so called professional pundits/journalists now dwell so much on the former. United for example has been very active if not the most active when it comes to transfers in the last couple of years yet struggling to play to the satisfaction of its fans. For a football manager the ability to identify what player works in your system and how to get the best out of what u have is paramount. Ozil if placed in MOU team at Chelsea or the current United will flop cos this is a manager that lays more emphasis on physicality and strong ability to be defensive than some sleek passing ability. Torres' career hit a very deep trough at Chelsea bt we can all see what he's doing @ atletico, Di Maria under Van Gaal almost looked like an amateur. My point is it's not all abt big names. What has happened to player development thru trainings and creating a system that works for u. This Hazard y'all keep criticising is one talented player that just needs a system to thrive in. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 9:47am On Oct 02, 2016 |
nateevs:even if i should agree with you, what stopped conte from getting the kind of players he wants during the summer transfer window? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 10:26am On Oct 02, 2016 |
Nihilist:If Conte could get the best out of that Italy team at the Euros, then it is not out of place to be optimistic in Chelsea's case. I also support the school of thought that he is more of a coach who rather than play, prefers to stop the opponent from playing and for a club like Chelsea, I don't know how much time his past achievements can buy him... |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 10:28am On Oct 02, 2016 |
Greatihex:The other clubs refused to deal as simple as that and Chelsea weren't willing to force their hands as was the case with Man Utd. |
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