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Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by Rick9(m): 10:57pm On Oct 01, 2016
With the way APC is dwindling drastically, PDP might just rise out from obscurity and snatch powers,
TINUBU threat of destroying APC should not be taken lightly that Man is a great political strategist, he knows how align.
After all majority of Nigerians detest APC with a passion.

Make I see how 2019 wan be.

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Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by micfoley: 10:58pm On Oct 01, 2016
Interesting analysis
Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by vislabraye(m): 11:00pm On Oct 01, 2016
moufan:
if buhari is not careful of those trying to limit tinubu's influence in the apc,by the time tinubu is through with him,he should start packing out of aso rock come 2019.I wonder how buhari would believe politicians that cannot even win their polling unit will limit tinubu's influence in the southwest. smh.

Tinubu is influential. I can say that his effort made up at least 55% of the victory in the last election. But don't expect Buhari to be like Gej who left without a fight. The best Tinubu revenge Tinubu could take is to betray Buhari at the polls the way he betrayed Ribadu in other to support Gej.

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Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by Newmanluckyman(m): 11:22pm On Oct 01, 2016
... Bola Tinubu is not a good student of history. Too bad!
Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by olajizz01(m): 11:28pm On Oct 01, 2016
vislabraye:


Tinubu is influential. I can say that his effort made up at least 55% of the victory in the last election. But don't expect Buhari to be like Gej who left without a fight. The best Tinubu revenge Tinubu could take is to betray Buhari at the polls the way he betrayed Ribadu in other to support Gej.
I concur with u,but Tinubu is wiser than Buhari,he will not show him much sign by now,he will only put up his strategy when election draw nearer which will surprise him and i don't even think this man has solution to this current economy situation sooner,that will be a great campagn point for an opposition come 2019, instead of fighting his benevolent,he would have put up that energy inorder to device solution to it because it will be one of the greatesty thing that will determine whether he will win second term or not.

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Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by uvalued(m): 11:50pm On Oct 01, 2016
TPAND:
Tinubu can never float a party that can win Presidency without the help of the North. If you disagree, history is there for you.

APC won because of Buhari's influence in the North. North is the majority, majority they say carry the vote.
If he trickles down his influence and power, Buhari's party will defeat his candidates hands down. Tinubu has lost out. He has learnt the hardway! He is not but a local warrior.

some north east, all off north west but north central is not all buhari... the sw is the tilting ace ... se ss and parts of north central for gej while part of north central, north west and parts of north east went buhari... its the sw that determined the rise and fall... check back your facts

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Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by Aliucha: 12:05am On Oct 02, 2016
How funny pride hurriedly soars before It falls.
Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by Evathyst(f): 12:13am On Oct 02, 2016
TPAND:
Tinubu can never float a party that can win Presidency without the help of the North. If you disagree, history is there for you.

APC won because of Buhari's influence in the North. North is the majority, majority they say carry the vote.
If he trickles down his influence and power, Buhari's party will defeat his candidates hands down. Tinubu has lost out. He has learnt the hardway! He is not but a local warrior.
What influence does a man whose party has never produced a governor (prior to APC's formation) in his home state has? undecided


Prior to 2015 election, The so-called popular man lost even in the North to GEJ (a southerner). Probably you were too young or your history teacher died so early in life, else, he would have taught you that the late M.K.O Abiola defeated Usman Tofa (a notherner) even in his own state. You think elections are won by so-called 'popularity' as against machinery? 2019 will clear your doubts.



Funny enough, your saviours so-called popularity has been blown away no thanks to his economic somersault policy. By then, I'm sure he'll be defeated even in his polling unit in Daura.


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Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by Unbrandedguy: 12:15am On Oct 02, 2016
He was warned after all. He refused to listen. Just like the writer said abt Machiavelli. As they have started dealing with him if its true. He will be incapacitated not to have any strength to stand again. They will pursue him even into Lagos. Unless they did not have him in their list. Northerners see southerners as lower mates. This the late Adekunle Fajuiyi saw and stood behind his best friend Aguiyi IronsI. Yet we couldn't learn. After using the likes of fashola, fayemi and co, they will turn them into their stooge. And remain on top. They are the Nigeria. Not you.
Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by MayorofLagos(m): 12:33am On Oct 02, 2016
First of all, Buhari is not looking for second term. He was in early 70s when he first contested and lost the election. Buhari wanted to return and finish what he had no chance to complete in 84 but he already retired from military and coup was no longer an appeal so he looked for political platform to achieve his ambition.

He is a self appointed righteous saint and believes he alone can clean the mess in the country. He doesn't know how to manage economy, society or any form of public administartion outside the military code of honor,which in effect is to obey first and complain later. This is why he champions fight against corruption, and we see he is using paramilitary tactics to fight corruption. He will not succeed if he were to exercise legal avenues ahead of "snatch and lock-up".

There are many social problems facing the nation, he cannot use decrees and he is distant from legislators, so the issues are not heard of now because politicians are banking on using them as tools to hold Buhari to accountability and reveal his weakness.

Buhari will look at grooming a successor, someone who will continue to see him as godfather and even run to him for endorsements.

We shall see
Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by OgbeniSamm(m): 1:07am On Oct 02, 2016
TPAND:
Tinubu can never float a party that can win Presidency without the help of the North. If you disagree, history is there for you.

APC won because of Buhari's influence in the North. North is the majority, majority they say carry the vote.
If he trickles down his influence and power, Buhari's party will defeat his candidates hands down. Tinubu has lost out. He has learnt the hardway! He is not but a local warrior.

let south west close rank with south east and south south, then u will knw that ur north is in the minority. North can never win election on its own, it needs support of 1 or 2 other geo political zones. Same goes to others. May God gv our leaders wisdom to reciv sense. Hausa/Fulani is currently nacking Yoruba akpako. Nxt time, yoruba leaders will look b4 they leap.
Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by kcnwaigbo: 1:33am On Oct 02, 2016
uvalued:


some north east, all off north west but north central is not all buhari... the sw is the tilting ace ... se ss and parts of north central for gej while part of north central, north west and parts of north east went buhari... its the sw that determined the rise and fall... check back your facts
How come Awolowo contested thrice and lost thrice with all this imaginary SW influence
Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by kcnwaigbo: 1:34am On Oct 02, 2016
OgbeniSamm:


let south west close rank with south east and south south, then u will knw that ur north is in the minority. North can never win election on its own, it needs support of 1 or 2 other geo political zones. Same goes to others. May God gv our leaders wisdom to reciv sense. Hausa/Fulani is currently nacking Yoruba akpako. Nxt time, yoruba leaders will look b4 they leap.
It's too late,the SS/SE are waiting to pay the SW back in their own coins

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Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by exceltech: 1:52am On Oct 02, 2016

“Just imagine how easy it was to get the transcript of all that transpired when he was receiving a segment of APC chieftains from South West who paid him a solidarity visit last weekend after keeping them waiting for over five hours”, the source added.
Tinubu was quoted as saying during the meeting that he regrets building APC and giving Buhari a platform to become president. “We all knew he didn’t merit to be president, but you know how we politicians behave when we are desperate for electoral position; we beg. That was how President Buhari always and frequently came to my private house here in Ikoyi with his entourage, which included that Nasir (El-Rufai) and others. Now they occupy Aso Rock and they think Asiwaju Tinubu is finished. He is using people I brought from obscurity against me. Now they say my mouth is smelling. They say I’m no longer relevant. The battle line is drawn, I will show them the meaning of Asiwaju”, he allegedly told the gathering.

Zombies over to you, this is direct from the horse's mouth.
Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by MayorofLagos(m): 2:33am On Oct 02, 2016
Evathyst:
What influence does a man whose party has never produced a governor (prior to APC's formation) in his home state has? undecided


Prior to 2015 election, The so-called popular man lost even in the North to GEJ (a southerner). Probably you were too young or your history teacher died so early in life, else, he would have taught you that the late M.K.O Abiola defeated Usman Tofa (a notherner) even in his own state. You think elections are won by so-called 'popularity' as against machinery? 2019 will clear your doubts.



Funny enough, your saviours so-called popularity has been blown away no thanks to his economic somersault policy. By then, I'm sure he'll be defeated even in his polling unit in Daura.


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Thank you Evathyst

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Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by dude(m): 7:05am On Oct 02, 2016
doctokwus:
One may not like Tinubu and his tendency to annoint candidates,appoint cabinet members and other govt appointees,but pmb may not have won the election without Tinubu's machinery.
Without that machinery,PMB won't have won because even if he had won tru majority votes got mainly from the North in d 1st ballot ,losing the SS,SE and the SW wud have denied him the required 2/3 spread and in a runoff with the then presidency seeing the danger of losing,all the rigging apparati wud have been deployed.
With the likes of Wike,Diezanni,Akpabio,Fayose,Tompolo in Delta etc,votes of 2m or more in Rivers,Akwa Ibom, Delta wud have been manufactured to counterbalance whatever the North wud produce in a runoff.
Tinubu can be tamed,but not thru this barefaced,crude and tampering with delegates way the presidency is going about it.
This is the first real analysis I have seen on the Tinubu- APC face off. Most people are sending in posts without thinking

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Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by OkoAnike(m): 7:10am On Oct 02, 2016
Evathyst:
What influence does a man whose party has never produced a governor (prior to APC's formation) in his home state has? undecided


Prior to 2015 election, The so-called popular man lost even in the North to GEJ (a southerner). Probably you were too young or your history teacher died so early in life, else, he would have taught you that the late M.K.O Abiola defeated Usman Tofa (a notherner) even in his own state. You think elections are won by so-called 'popularity' as against machinery? 2019 will clear your doubts.



Funny enough, your saviours so-called popularity has been blown away no thanks to his economic somersault policy. By then, I'm sure he'll be defeated even in his polling unit in Daura.


*Bookmark this post*


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Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by josite: 7:46am On Oct 02, 2016
tinubu really has nothing to worry about.buhari ,unless he changes course,will self destroyed.as the days go buhari looks back and keep discovering the crowd behind his masquerade is fast thinning out.The best option for tinubu is to keep on preparing his financial war chest.ibb has rightly described buhari as too rigid and that rigidity cannot be a virtue in a multicomplex nigeria.
Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by Izonpikin: 7:58am On Oct 02, 2016
Instead of all of us youths to lynch these mofos called leaders we are here talking about whose force is to be reckoned with....rubbish... sad sad

Let us take our future into our hands and shove aside these freak show artiste called leaders......
Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by matrix1759: 8:34am On Oct 02, 2016
Olu317:
whether they like it or not,TInubu remain force to be reckon with in Yoruba land. I wait to see among Ibikunle Amosu,Babatunde Raji Fashola, Kayode Fayemi, Akeredolu Rotimi and Abiola Ajimobi whom among them have the weight and charisma to woo Yorubas respectively to vote against Tinubu directive. Time will tell. And those of you who think Yoruba are gullible will be shocked in 2019 with a block voting pattern again. That's the reason we are an enigma to solve
Chai!! Did u deliver a bloc voting pattern in 2015? As derided as GEJ was in the SW and as influential as Tinubu was, Jonathan still got over 40% in Lagos and other SW states. Not talking of Ekiti, which he won. Abeg, Tinubu is overrated. The last general elections were won and lost in the North. Simple.
Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by engrchykae(m): 8:44am On Oct 02, 2016
sarrki:
Jagaban made Apc

He can liase with other progressive across other

Geopolitical zone

U strongly believe that it won't get to that stage
which geopolitical zone?midwest?because he should forget the old eastern region,his allies remains the North,marriage is for better for worse
Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by kamalcole3000: 8:45am On Oct 02, 2016
TPAND:
Tinubu can never float a party that can win Presidency without the help of the North. If you disagree, history is there for you.

APC won because of Buhari's influence in the North. North is the majority, majority they say carry the vote.
If he trickles down his influence and power, Buhari's party will defeat his candidates hands down. Tinubu has lost out. He has learnt the hardway! He is not but a local warrior.

Buharis influence in the north lost him the election three times.did not even win 5 state at any one election.

Tinubu does not need to win presidency,all he needs to do is break the ranks of APC and come 2019 another party takes over Aso rock.

Whichever way,Buhari is finished.

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Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by kamalcole3000: 8:55am On Oct 02, 2016
ificatchmodeh:
Tinubu is spend..the north is bulding another political bloc in the west.
He's not needed in the scheme now..loyalty is what is needed not godfather. There can't be two captain in a ship..is tantamount to mutiny.
Atiku is a confirm politician..he learnt from his mistake after baba dealt with him..but oga tinubu don't want to learn from others..
By next year..the north will empower the new bloc in the west..politicians will realign.
Tinubu should be fighting for lagos state ..which will be a tough battle..

A man should know when he conquer..tinubu miscalculated..even after lagos election. That saw fash nearly fronting him..

there's no fight for him to be won at the federal level..he should concentrate his arsenal in lagos..

The boys have turned to men..and they ain't smiling..they are coming woskily for him..and they have the backing to equal his finance.

Jagaban..you came you saw..you conquered..but going in peace will confirm. you jagaban borgu.

Take it or leave it,there is no political block built in the southwest that can beat Tinubu for now.It takes more than political appointment to become a leader of men.

All the instrument of the new power block are political feathr weight who needed Tinubu support to win elctions so it will be awrong calculation to build it on the likes fashola,Amisun,Fayemi etc.these are just appointees who cannot deliver when it's time for the real politicking.

TINUBU may be down now,he is not out
Watch out for 2019



Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by Kdon2: 8:56am On Oct 02, 2016
afroniger:
Source: http://sunnewsonline.com/tinubu-the-battle-ahead/







Yeye dey smell...what is the relevance of osinbajo?? If he think he is actually relevant in this new dispensation he is the most clueless person in the whole of africa. Dey ll never giv him a chance in this government even if he begs prostrating dey don't want a pastor in their real game plan! He should wake up to reality
Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by AlanSugar(m): 9:19am On Oct 02, 2016
If I didn't miss it, how come no one is talking about the so called leaked transcript of the secret meeting between tinubu and his supporters who he allegedly kept waiting for over five hours?! Could this ndubisi of an ipob youth gone the length to publish such allegation just to attempt to destroy tinubu for hate reasons? What got me most is the part he said "now they know my mouth is smelling"! Haba, ndubisi!

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Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by kamalcole3000: 9:22am On Oct 02, 2016
MayorofLagos:
First of all, Buhari is not looking for second term. He was in early 70s when he first contested and lost the election. Buhari wanted to return and finish what he had no chance to complete in 84 but he already retired from military and coup was no longer an appeal so he looked for political platform to achieve his ambition.

He is a self appointed righteous saint and believes he alone can clean the mess in the country. He doesn't know how to manage economy, society or any form of public administartion outside the military code of honor,which in effect is to obey first and complain later. This is why he champions fight against corruption, and we see he is using paramilitary tactics to fight corruption. He will not succeed if he were to exercise legal avenues ahead of "snatch and lock-up".

There are many social problems facing the nation, he cannot use decrees and he is distant from legislators, so the issues are not heard of now because politicians are banking on using them as tools to hold Buhari to accountability and reveal his weakness.

Buhari will look at grooming a successor, someone who will continue to see him as godfather and even run to him for endorsements.

We shall see

Who will his likely successor be that will have the political clout,warchest and and also be an acceptable person down south?

Only two people fit that description Hell Rufai And Ribadu.

Now if Buhari descend on Tinubu and run for second term he looses,if he anoint any of these two they loose too.

Do you know Buhari maybe the reason why Atiku may have a shot at the presidency come 2019 whether or not he is in APChit.

Watch out
Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by meglith(m): 10:38am On Oct 02, 2016
whenever I found a new love, I always thought this is how life would always be, but after sometimes when will started seeing difficulty, I begin to think otherwise. The useless party will fight among themselves until another party show them way out .
Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by Dapyem(m): 10:41am On Oct 02, 2016
I am neither pro Tinubu nor anti Tinubu but all what i know from my little understanding of Nigeria politics is that: Tinubu is relevant in Nigeria politics. Call him a local champion,u ar not wrong. If he is not relevant,all these articles about him here and there wld not have been necessary.
Political parties in Nigeria have no ideologies. Nigeria politicians fight to regroup again to fight common enemy. To them politics is business and nothing more. Dumping Tinubu today does not mean he is no more relevant again. More will still come even from the north to ally wit him for another common interest.
Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by Dapyem(m): 10:54am On Oct 02, 2016
matrix1759:
Chai!! Did u deliver a bloc voting pattern in 2015? As derided as GEJ was in the SW and as influential as Tinubu was, Jonathan still got over 40% in Lagos and other SW states. Not talking of Ekiti, which he won. Abeg, Tinubu is overrated. The last general elections were won and lost in the North. Simple.
Am not saying Tinubu is overrated or underrated but why did Buhari not win in 2003,2007 n 2011 with his influence in the north. Do u understand 2/3 of d states as enshrined in our constitition? Which means at least 24 states out of 36. Plus at least 25% in these states.
Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by Dapyem(m): 11:00am On Oct 02, 2016
[quote author=kcnwaigbo post=49841090]
It's too late,the SS/SE are waiting to pay the SW back in their own coins[/quote
Forget it my brother. Nigeria politicians are business men and they ally with whoever that will enhance their political business. SS/SE leaders will come to SW if need be. How many of the SS/SE political leaders drummed support for creation of Biafra Rep?
Re: Tinubu: The Battle Ahead - Sun News by gdguy: 11:56am On Oct 02, 2016
Tinubu's enemies are not the Presidency but the well known members of his household in the same South West. Tinubu needs to watch his back. The plan against him is not that of political irrelevance but that of political annihilation. He needs the combined forces of equally powerful and formidable forces as himself to fight and overcome the battles ahead. They are coming for his head, and I can bet they will get it if Tinubu still erroneously thinks he has the full weapons of warfare he used to have. I have so much regard and pity for him. But he should watch his back!

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