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Henry240:
Take a look at the T-50. It seems to me like an SU-35 covered in stealth coating.

jln115:
Either way the Gripen is better than the F16 as well!

Henry240:

Henry240:

jln115:
Dude the mk3 upgrade was a software upgrade which we got, the Mk4 will only be available from 2017, and if you read the source you would've seen its 120km for an object the size of 4m2 not 130km and with the new mk4 its 0.1m2 at 120km and with the upgraded mk3 its 0.4m2 at 120km

lastly what does this have to do with South Africa?? this is a Gripen vs JF17 debate

iblawi:
You are still trying to complicate thing when you've actually shot yourself on the foot.

South Africa have nothing like upgrades on their Gripens.

Please just accept that your initial claim was fault cause Mk4 is coming with Gripen E/F in 2017. For now there is nothing like 0.1m2 object detection for gripen.

tdayof:
The most lethal aircraft on earth for now.

jln115:
No you dumb fvck the PS/05a Mk4 is not comeing with the Gripen E......The Gripen E comes with the Selex's ES-05 Raven AESA radar

and yes we received the update/upgrade back in 2013 when it was made available, i posted about this 2 years ago!! Thus SAAF Gripens can detect an object 0.4m2 in size from 120km!

And as i said before, what does this have to do with South Africa?? You dumb fvcks always want to compare the JF17 to SAAF Gripens yet you don't even have a single JF17! rather compare your Mig21s to our Gripens then!

jln115:
My fellow countrymen @Patches689 will disagree but personally i feel the F22 is overrated!! In fact most US weapon systems are overrated IMO!

iblawi:
You dump fool now know that there is nothing like 0.1m2 detection for gripen you dummy. Am done

Hope you will allow me rest now?

tdayof:
Actually I don't know if I should say it's overrated or it's capability is overhyped but currently, no other jet can match it in combat.

jln115:
BVR yes.....WVR BIG NOPE!!

jln115:
Oh my fvcking soul!! the PS/05a Mk4 is already in service with several of Sweden's Gripens......Exports are only scheduled for 2017!

Besides 0.4m2 at 120km vs 3m2 at 110km which is better?

tdayof:
Why no? Support your reasons .

iblawi:
Fool keep twisting things up.
It seem you love to argue unnecessarily but i don't have that time.

iblawi:
You are still trying to complicate thing when you've actually shot yourself on the foot.

South Africa have nothing like upgrades on their Gripens.

Please just accept that your initial claim was fault cause Mk4 is coming with Gripen E/F in 2017. For now there is nothing like 0.1m2 object detection for gripen.

jln115:
When Australia was evaluating the F35 they sent several defence personal to Ex Pacific Vision:

in the mock battle there was blue force: F22,F35 and F/A 18 and Red Force:Su27sm and 2 Su30s

And if i remember correctly, the beating blue force took was so severe that one of the Australian defence personal describe it as...and i quote "clubbing baby seals"

andrewza:
I highly doubt this took place. The F35 was not operational back then and still is not. The F22 only had issues with the Rafael and even then it won over all but a few where lost in simulated dog fights.


The Quote came from a computer simulations not a red flag style exercise.

andrewza:
Actually with our support deal with SAAB we get all the upgrades the gripens get as they come out.

Henry240:
Evidence or into the trash can this comment goes, along with your 3rd rate Gripen?

jln115:
Dude i posted a defenceweb article regarding the SAAB contract and the upgrades that are included in the contract 2 years ago!!! consult the archives!

jln115:
Dude i posted a defenceweb article regarding the SAAB contract and the upgrades that are included in the contract 2 years ago!!! consult the archives!

iblawi:
You posted it two years ago while it was available only last year according to your source.



You claimed you posted something about upgrades two years ago but SAAB claims upgrades of MK3 was available only in 2015.

This is what we know you have
PS-05A (JAS-39 A/B/C/D)

For RCS 0.0001 m2 class target: 5~6 km+
For RCS 0.001 m2 class target: 9~10 km+
For RCS 0.1 m2 class target: 27~32 km+
For RCS 1.0 m2 class target: 48~56 km+
For RCS 5.0 m2 class target: 72~84 km+
For RCS 10.0 m2 class target: 85~100 km+

Odunayaw:
jln...its enough...u r looking like a dummy already

anyway...I like when y'all argue ..we learn a bit
now can we post on topic

jln115:
So i look dumb yet im the only one posting legitimate sources and not gibberish from other forums?? Cool story bro!

Odunayaw:
oh...legitimate
anyway...let's keep shit real Ok?

tdayof:
The most lethal aircraft on earth for now.

Henry240:
Keep acting stupiid.

A plane that is to replace an F4 Phantom, F-5, MIG-23, Mirage and MIG-29 is what?

Henry240:
No dufus, the Gripen does not out maneuver the JF-17. It's not even possible.


The fact is your Gripen according to SAAB is on the same level as the F-16 Block 40, when when all factors come into consideration, the Gripen is also lower than the JF-17.


So much for $65 million. What Mbeki did, was he got petrol and burnt $35 million per plane. To think it was all borrowed money makes it all the more sorrowful.

Henry240:
Which include F4, F5, Mirage, MIG-23, MIG-21.


I provided a comment of a PAC executive explicitly following the Chinese designation.