₦airaland Forum

itoldu:
Pick up that bible of yours, read, study and digest it (don't just read one part and make conclusions/draw inferences). There are a lot of hidden truths in it that you might never hear from the altar. Our opinions in support/against what you've done should not matter to you. The Holy Spirit would teach you into all truth when you ask. In as much as you acknowledge to be a christian, the bible is all you need. "The manual"

This is the conclusion of the whole matter, God help you to get knowledge and wisdom

I hate d idea of tithes n offerings
Poor widow with 3 small kids will take her last money to church and add it to the acct of a pastor that has two jeeps and a mamsion
That was how i gave my mom my atm pin n she withdrew 2k from my 10k and took it to her church saying that she was sowing seed for me
The pastor of her church drives a range rover and has securities following him around but me i eas just looking for money to save up n do something for myself add and rent house with my guy close to campus
I shouted on her and told her to return my 2k

Instead make i put tithe or offering for church i go give am to real beggar or go orphanage go donate d money

freecocoa:
What sort of fuvckery is this one biko?


Like if God was real, he would actually need your money? Someone who supposedly created something as magnificent as the whole world, abi na him suppose give person money sef, mschew.

You can claim that God is not real now but at the end of the day you will find out that you have deceived yourself all these years and by then it would ve been too late for you to make amends.
I pray you quit deceiving yourself that God is not real.

honourhim:
You can claim that God is not real now but at the end of the day you will find out that you have deceived yourself all these years and by then it would ve been too late for you to make amends.
I pray you quit deceiving yourself that God is not real.

Gerraway biko, your prayer is more useless than the ueue in queue, hehehe.

Buggiez:
he has no belief in either of the two hence his action,you believe either of the two will punish him meaning since he doesn't believe in either of the two non will affect/punish him cause of his action.

Even the atheist, Buddhist, Muslim will all agree that his actions were immoral and not commendable.

Sermwell there's a consequence for not paying your tithes and offerings. It's in the Bible.

Buggiez:
go back and read your response to my question....u said depending on his belief of either of the two.
now because someone is an atheist or Buddhist or Muslim and am a Christian does his belief affect my actions or my belief is what affects my actions.

My point is,
Whatsoever religion OP believes in ( obviously Christianity) his action was very wrong and will attract repercussions..

Buggiez:
wrong assumption from his write up he does not believe in Christianity hence his decision not to go to church anymore.
or are the Christians that don't go to church and don't believe the Bible? I would want to know oga

No sir. He doesn't believe in some of the pastor's and parents doctrine doesn't mean he doesn't believe in Christianity.
Like OP, I will not give my last cash as offering if I am down, except my mind permits it.

Likewise me, I don't believe in some church doctrines because they are individualistic and doesn't represent Christianity. That doesn't make me a non Christian. Ifollow the bible ,not any pastor.

For example , wearing of the white garmet for some churches is simply a denominational matter and that I don't wear in that church doesnt make me less of a Christian, even though I might be frowned at.

Even forbidding of some hair attachment by some churches is not Christian law but a church doctrine put in place to ease the Christian race.
The final Christian guide is the bible and not what the preacher tells you to do.

Various sects including the sunni and shite muslim have different interpretation of various matters which is simply due to varying human perception.

Well, if you do not like Christianity like I sense ,relax and let those who enjoy it carry on. We might be foolish in your eyes. so be it.

OP' s only crime was deception or stealing by trick.




Cheers

Johnrake69:
Is it even necessary to give someone money for offering? If the person doesn't earn money, I see no reason for it. We are just too religious while our faith is less than an inch deep.

The said uncle is just too religious. What stops him from placing the op on a monthly allowance and make the op understand that from the allowance he should always take out his offering?

Many of us condemning the op are just part of the problem. Let me ask what do churches use our offering for?
1. Engage in never ending church building projects when more than half of their members are homeless.

2. Maintain the lavish lifestyle of the G.O. many of the G.O have personal houses in almost all the states in Nigeria. Etc

Now, not to talk of the politics in the church. I once worshipped in a local assembly where 85% of the tithe and offering from the branch is remitted to the regional quarters. So the local assembly retains just 15% meanwhile my hope was that some of that money should be used to take care of the very poor among us in the local assembly. Churches operate a cutthroat capitalist system where the local assembly are made to starve just so that the head quarters can overfloor. The system of exploitation we complain of in our economy is strongly rooted in our churches today.

What is true religion? James 1:27
Pure and undefiled religion before God the Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their misfortune and to keep oneself unstained by the world.

Clearly, our churches have lost focus. It's all about church building projects that is unending. I believe in other to re-position the church to be Christ like who was selfless, we the members have to speak up to address some of these issues.

If the Christ was alive today, he would definitely had commanded that some church building should be converted to residential building in order to house the homeless.

well said brother..

How did your pedophile tell you Mary conceived?

APCsupporter:
Are you saying that your god had sex with mary?(Without her permission). Cos that's what beget means

Amberon:
How did your pedophile tell you Mary conceived?

Answer my question. Your god actually rraped his daughter mary. What a shameless god. In fact he is a bigger pedophile. Imagine a whole god!

Fool....does this mean you believe the biblical account is true and superior to your pedophile rapist's book?

APCsupporter:
Answer my question. Your god actually rraped his daughter mary. What a shameless god. In fact he is a bigger pedophile. Imagine a whole god!

Amberon:
Fool....does this mean you believe the biblical account is true and superior to your pedophile rapist's book?

OAM4J

There is no church in Nigeria that has any credibility, all i see are pastors who are obsessed with worldly pleasures asking for money every week, disguised as "thanksgiving","first seed","special contribution", "try God and see", "we need money for..","i just had a vision" .. all this apart from the normal offering and tithe

APCsupporter:
Answer my question. Your god actually rraped his daughter mary. What a shameless god. In fact he is a bigger pedophile. Imagine a whole god!

You wont get your point across being aggressive and insultive with your arguments like that

You do know that banning doesn't kill right?

APCsupporter:
OAM4J

You also insulted Christianity and God first fool. [quote author=APCsupporter post=4987346[/quote]

Amberon:
You also insulted Christianity and God first fool.

It doesn't change the fact that your god is a rrapist who rraped Mary without her knowledge. Shame on it

Lol bros you go survive. Funny how some people here thinks their all mighty God will punish you for not giving a man made object (money) to him and his "servants".

Anybody that tells you that God needs your money is a liar and a thief.
God needs your obedience to His commandments.
If you will give, give to those that don't have, those that can't give you back Luke 14:13-14
Don't give to a church, you're just enriching your GO's bank account.
They lie that you're giving to the work of God. Pls, which work of God are they saying?
God never asked anybody to build any church for Him.
Any pastor that ask you to bring tithe and offerings to church is a thief.
The whole essence of giving is to the poor, strangers, destitute, orphans, widows and not to Pastors or to church.
They say when you give God the tenth percent of your income, God will bless you back.
God is never interested in your money, all He's interested is your soul. Anybody that tells you otherwise is a thief. Matt 16:26
Adeboye encourages people to sow or give to RCCG because it is a fertile land. All I see is a businessman advertising His company or business to people.
Bring the entire tithe into the storehouse so that there may be food in my temple. Test me in this matter," says the Lord who rules over all, "to see if I will not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you a blessing until there is no room for it all.
Mal 3:10
Storehouse is place in the temple where food are kept for the poor, foreigners, widows.
Is your church a storehouse? Why do you take your tithe to church?
The poor are not even to partake out of the tithe,it is always forwarded to the church account.
The only money the poor is entitled is the welfare's offering and not tithes.
How many of you are giving to the poor? You rather give to your pastor or sow it as a seed for the construction of the 3m by 3m auditorium. Something God did not ask him to build.

Lol... You will be alright soon enough.

APCsupporter:
It doesn't change the fact that your god is a rrapist who rraped Mary without her knowledge. Shame on it

Wolfbrother:
There is no church in Nigeria that has any credibility, all i see are pastors who are obsessed with worldly pleasures asking for money every week, disguised as "thanksgiving","first seed","special contribution", "try God and see", "we need money for..","i just had a vision" .. all this apart from the normal offering and tithe

You're 100% correct.
They exploit poor masses in the name of God