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Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by BeeBeeOoh(m): 12:09am On Oct 14, 2016
The House of Representatives on Thursday moved to whittle down the power of the President to sack judiciary officers in the country.

A bill to amend the 1999 Constitution to allow the National Judicial Council to be fully involved in the removal of a judge from office passed the second reading at the House.

If passed, the bill sought to give the NJC more powers to decide the fate of judges beyond recommending their removal to the President.

The long title of the bill, which was sponsored by a former Deputy Minority Whip of the House, Mr. Garba Dhatti, reads, ‘Bill for an Act pursuant to Section 9(1) and (2) of the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria 1999 (as amended) to alter Section 292 (1) (A) and (i) (ii) to include the National Judicial Council in the procedure for the removal of heads of courts established by the Constitution under Section 6 (5)’.

Dhatti explained that the aim of the bill was to shield judicial officers from possible abuse of power by the executive.

He spoke further, “It is to ensure that judicial officers, serving as heads of courts, are not victimised through removal by executive fiat, acting in concert with the legislature without any established or verifiable evidence.

“It is to subject judiciary personnel, serving as heads of courts established under Section 6 (5) of the Constitution, to removal only upon the advice of the National Judicial Council so as to ensure consistency in the process.

“On many occasions, judiciary personnel have been removed from office on trumped-up allegations without recourse to a body charged with the constitutional responsibility to investigate and recommend appropriate disciplinary actions.

“Since the provisions in the constitution did not give the National Judicial Council any role in the removal of heads of courts, it has left them at the mercy and whims of the executive.”

The bill appeared for debate just days after it had ordered an investigation into recent arrests of judges and the invasion of their homes by operatives of the Department of State Services.

However, its passage will depend on the report of the House Ad Hoc Committee on Constitution Review.

In the meantime, lawmakers passed it for the second reading in a majority voice vote.

The session, which was presided over by the Speaker, Mr. Yakubu Dogara, also passed a separate resolution, asking the Federal Government to comply with the Federal Character Principles in making appointments and recruitment into public offices.

Moving a motion on the issue, the Chairman, House Committee on Public Accounts, Mr. Kingsley Chinda, observed that there had been non-compliance with Section 14 (1) of the 1999 Constitution in the appointments made by the government.

The House endorsed the motion.

http://www.punchng.com/reps-seek-clip-presidents-power-sack-judges/

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by ojmaroni247(m): 12:29am On Oct 14, 2016
E no go easy Oh.

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by ojmaroni247(m): 12:33am On Oct 14, 2016
Let's keep watching. I won't take sides cuz I know its all about their personal interests and not about Nigerians.

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by StepTwo: 12:36am On Oct 14, 2016
how do they intend to do that, with sign language or what?


besides Chinakwe's pet is in Germany.

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by Bari22: 1:02am On Oct 14, 2016
So what then?
Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by EternalTruths: 2:29am On Oct 14, 2016
That's a welcome development.

Even the power to appoint Chief Justice of the Federation by the President is not right because it betrays the concept of separation of power and makes the Judiciary a puppet of the Executive arm.

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by amaechi1: 2:41am On Oct 14, 2016
In the first place, the president does not unilateral power to sack a judge without recommendation from NJC. So, what law due they want to make?

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by Aufbauh(m): 2:56am On Oct 14, 2016
They should kotinu with their wanton bill chasing whirlwind.

But one thing am sure of is that before their wanton bill is passed am afraid that Buhari the whirlwind might have purge the judiciary system by then.
After all the bill when passed cannot discontinue existing cases.

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by Askmewhy(m): 4:43am On Oct 14, 2016
This people are bunch of idiots and thieves.

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by Nobody: 5:09am On Oct 14, 2016
I trust buhari to disobey the Constitution if need be. Dictatorship is the only form of government suitable for Nigeria

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by kcnwaigbo: 5:15am On Oct 14, 2016
Aufbauh:
They should kotinu with their wanton bill chasing whirlwind.

But one thing am sure of is that before their wanton bill is passed am afraid that Buhari the whirlwind might have purge the judiciary system by then.
After all the bill when passed cannot discontinue existing cases.
The so called existing cases against judges cleared by the NJC will not see the light of the day.You can take yesterday's NJC communiqué as the position of the supreme court since it is still the members of the NJC that will adjudicate the cases at the supreme court.

Buhari is not interested in fighting corruption in the judiciary, he has been amongst those trying to corrupt the judiciary through corrupt judges like Okon Abang.He is only interested in going after judges who ruled against him or the APC

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by babdap: 5:15am On Oct 14, 2016
Our legislators are the greatest problem in this country.

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by Aufbauh(m): 5:43am On Oct 14, 2016
kcnwaigbo:

The so called existing cases against judges cleared by the NJC will not see the light of the day.You can take yesterday's NJC communiqué as the position of the supreme court since it is still the members of the NJC that will adjudicate the cases at the supreme court.

Buhari is not interested in fighting corruption in the judiciary, he has been amongst those trying to corrupt the judiciary through corrupt judges like Okon Abang.He is only interested in going after judges who ruled against him or the APC

Oops! So you're taking the NJC communique to be the position of the constitution, forgetting that most of the judges as council members are appointed by the President who has the power to fire if he so chooses. Anybody can be there tomorrow and has his own interpretation of the law.

Moreover,those your NJC fall my hands big time. I was actually thinking they will recommend Buhari for impeachment or sack DSS DG, but rather they were pledging loyalty and support to the anti corruption war of Buhari...i guess you were disappointed.

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by Splashme: 5:46am On Oct 14, 2016
EternalTruths:
That's a welcome development.

Even the power to appoint Chief Justice of the Federation by the President is not right because it betrays the concept of separation of power and makes the Judiciary a puppet of the Executive arm.

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by asfrank(m): 6:02am On Oct 14, 2016
I have discovered that our representatives have nothing doing. Where in the world has one arm of government had total autonomy? What then happens to checks and balances? If they seek to cut presidents powers to size, den they must start talking of removing their oversight functions on both arms of government too. I guess they wouldn't, because thats their avenue of collecting bribes. They are using Buhari's case as a yardstick, when in fact they should have used Goodluck's refusal to reinstate Justice Ayo Salami, back in 2012: that was an outright rejection of the recommendation of the NJC. What Buhari has done has absolutely nothing to do with what the bill seeks to address, that's my own point of view,. Saraki has been arrested, under going trial as well, so y not the judicial officers. Their bill will only bring chaos into a system that has already been plagued by anarchy..

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by freeze001(f): 6:22am On Oct 14, 2016
Aufbauh:


Oops! So you're taking the NJC communique to be the position of the constitution, forgetting that most of the judges as council members are appointed by the President who has the power to fire if he so chooses. Anybody can be there tomorrow and has his own interpretation of the law.

Moreover,those your NJC fall my hands big time. I was actually thinking they will recommend Buhari for impeachment or sack DSS DG, but rather they were pledging loyalty and support to the anti corruption war of Buhari...i guess you were disappointed.

If you understand how the Judiciary works u will realise that ur thoughts or expectations, sarcastic as they may be, are far off the mark. In fact, this communique is not as conservative as is the tradition and it is because of the grave implications of the illegal actions by the Executive through the DSS. Truth is, no one is against fighting corruption but it must be done in line with the law and good practice! You don't burn down a house because of a few pesky rodents.

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by blackpanda: 6:23am On Oct 14, 2016
EternalTruths:
That's a welcome development.

Even the power to appoint Chief Justice of the Federation by the President is not right because it betrays the concept of separation of power and makes the Judiciary a puppet of the Executive arm.

Really? Then how about the power of only the CJN to swear the President in?? Is that abuse of seperation of powers too or is the President a puppet of the CJN as well

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by kcnwaigbo: 6:25am On Oct 14, 2016
Aufbauh:


Oops! So you're taking the NJC communique to be the position of the constitution, forgetting that most of the judges as council members are appointed by the President who has the power to fire if he so chooses. Anybody can be there tomorrow and has his own interpretation of the law.

Moreover,those your NJC fall my hands big time. I was actually thinking they will recommend Buhari for impeachment or sack DSS DG, but rather they were pledging loyalty and support to the anti corruption war of Buhari...i guess you were disappointed.
Bros it is still the members of the NJC that will interpret the constitution and not you, the DSS or Buhari. Yes their interpretation is the law whether you like it or not

BTW the presidency does not have the power's to fire any judge let alone members of the NJC without recommendations from the NJC

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by SamuelAnyawu(m): 6:26am On Oct 14, 2016
Observing...........



#IStandWithSamDaddy 2019

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by blackpanda: 6:27am On Oct 14, 2016
freeze001:


If you understand how the Judiciary works u will realise that ur thoughts or expectations, sarcastic as they may be, are far off the mark. In fact, this communique is not as conservative as is the tradition and it is because of the grave implications of the illegal actions by the Executive through the DSS. Truth is, no one is against fighting corruption but it must be done in line with the law and good practice! You don't burn down a house because of a few pesky rodents.


And what makes the actions of the DSS illegal? Pls name one single law that they violated Lets not be swept away by eratic emotions. There is no immunity for judges outside the court room!

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by freeze001(f): 6:27am On Oct 14, 2016
blackpanda:


Really? Then how about the power of only the CJN to swear the President in?? Is that abuse of seperation of powers too or is the President a puppet of the CJN as well

Swearing an oath must be done either in a court for regular affidavits or before a representative of the court ie the CJN and other judges. That is what gives the oath of office its seal of legality.

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by kcnwaigbo: 6:29am On Oct 14, 2016
blackpanda:



And what makes the actions of the DSS illegal? Pls name one single law that they violated Lets not be swept away by eratic emotions. There is no immunity for judges outside the court room!
The supreme court judges through the NJC has stated that only the NJC can discipline judges,better tell Buhari that his attempt to control the judiciary under the guise of fighting corruption has failed

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by blackpanda: 6:31am On Oct 14, 2016
freeze001:


Swearing an oath must be done either in a court for regular affidavits or before a representative of the court ie the CJN and other judges. That is what gives the oath of office its seal of legality.

Just like appointments must be made by administrative heads of the organization. That is what gives the appointment ts seal of legality as well. And the President is the administrative head of Government.

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by raker300: 6:34am On Oct 14, 2016
No one is fighting corruption.
.we just have a man fighting personal friends using governmental offices

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by Kingsley1000(m): 6:34am On Oct 14, 2016
God bless buhari.......nigeria must be corrupt free....wike is indeed lucky to be alive. Obstructing an order
of arrest from the federal government all because he
has skeleton in his closet is suicidal. If the Dss
operatives had pulled their trigger on him that day, it
would be termed as accidental discharge and at
worst his deputy would be sworn in as governor if he
dies. No sane person will dare the federal might of
any country. The police commissioner he took a long
with him answers directly to the IG who is an
appointee of the federal government. Just like GEJ
withdrew Amaechi's security detail, Buhari can order
the same for wike and heaven will not fall. Power
pass power. When they loot and steal billions they all
forget human rights of affected citizens and rules of
law. When it's time for prosecution, they will start
screaming rule of law and due process and the same
nigerians who are shortchanged will be supporting the
political thieves.
Sane Nigerians are behind the arrest of judges and
other corrupt members of the political class. Some
call buhari a dictator but if dictatorship is what is
required to sanitize the system you have the support
of patriotic Nigerians. Invade the home of looters,
break their doors and safes with sledge hammers,
brutalize them with your DSS and make them pay for
short changing the state. We must sanitize the
country for the upcoming generations

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by blackpanda: 6:34am On Oct 14, 2016
kcnwaigbo:

The supreme court judges through the NJC has stated that only the NJC can discipline judges,better tell Buhari that his attempt to control the judiciary under the guise of fighting corruption has failed

We have gone past the issue of disciplining judicial officers. Corruption, stealing and impersonation are criminal offences which the NJC is incapable of handling. Pls try to get the difference, NJC can only recommend for suspension or dismissal. NJC cannot prosecute a crime!

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by Nobody: 6:41am On Oct 14, 2016
All these reps sef, their turn is coming. In Damian Marley's voice, "the revolution would be televised"

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by kcnwaigbo: 6:42am On Oct 14, 2016
blackpanda:


We have gone past the issue of disciplining judicial officers. Corruption, stealing and impersonation are criminal offences which the NJC is incapable of handling. Pls try to get the difference, NJC can only recommend for suspension or dismissal. NJC cannot prosecute a crime!
Very funny, the NJC is not capable of handling corruption cases yet the EFCC keep bringing corruption suspects to court to be tried by members of the NJC?

It's like you don't really realise what the NJC is? It is the highest decision making body of the judiciary who will still end up trying every case brought by the executive or ordinary citizens!! No matter what the police, EFCC,ICPC,NDLEA,Custom etc does, it will still bring the cases to court to be tried by members of the NJC

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by freeze001(f): 6:44am On Oct 14, 2016
blackpanda:



And what makes the actions of the DSS illegal? Pls name one single law that they violated Lets not be swept away by eratic emotions. There is no immunity for judges outside the court room!

There is no immunity but there is rule of law and due process. We are not a lawless banana republic just yet!

First the SSS/DSS has its powers and mandate confined to matters of internal security. The allegations against the judges centre around professional misconduct, alleged solicitation and receipt of bribe in connection with his professional capacity as a judge. If u juxtapose these positions dispassionately, u will find that these alleged offences do not fall within the ambit of the DSS.The judges are not accused of armed robbery, rather there are allegations (according to the purported search warrants that have made the rounds) of falsehood, under declaration of assets and corrupt practices. None of these allegations are independent of their professions. The CCB is responsible for irregular declaration of assets not the DSS. In this case, the law broken is that of the establishment statute of the SSS. They over-reached their mandates and those of other constitutionally established agencies/bodies.

Secondly, in keeping with the principles of democracy and constitutionality, each arm of government has internal regulatory mechanisms related to professional conduct and disciplinary measures. None of the allegations are independent of their professions. Therefore, such allegations must first be brought by way of petition to the NJC constitutionally charged with d role of discipline of judges among others as far as it borders on professional misconduct. If u have read d communique u will find clearly that the DSS never filed petitions against the Supreme Court justices. That against Pindiga was addressed and dismissed because the DSS could not substantiate their allegations. Tsamiya had already been suspended and recommended for a sack same as d former Chief Judge of Enugu. Ademola was already before the NJC by another individual and not the DSS! So, the DSS breached constitutional procedures and that is the law broken.

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by blackpanda: 6:50am On Oct 14, 2016
kcnwaigbo:

Very funny, the NJC is not capable of handling corruption cases yet the EFCC keep bringing corruption suspects to court to be tried by members of the NJC?

It's like you don't really realise what the NJC is? It is the highest decision making body of the judiciary who will still end up trying every case brought by the executive or ordinary citizens!! No matter what the police, EFCC,ICPC,NDLEA,Custom etc does, it will still bring the cases to court to be tried by members of the NJC


You see, if u dont know something its best to keep quiet. Or at least if u want to comment, try and read up or do some research. Google is there for you. I wont bother to join issues with u because from ur comments, u are not a lawyer neither do u have any legal background whatsoever. Your comment is based on ur emotions. But just fyi: NJC is not the highest decision making body. And the fact that members of an organization are corrupt doesnt mean the whole organisation is corrupt. NJC still disciplines judges, and judgments in court are made based on facts and the law. Not based on ur emotions. Ok.

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by freeze001(f): 6:51am On Oct 14, 2016
blackpanda:


Just like appointments must be made by administrative heads of the organization. That is what gives the appointment ts seal of legality as well. And the President is the administrative head of Government.

Do those administrative appointments require an oath? If they do, a judge or d judiciary must administer same. Appointment of a DG or even Ministers do not come with am oath of office.

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Re: Reps Seek To Clip President's Power To Sack Judges- The Punch by blackpanda: 6:58am On Oct 14, 2016
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freeze001:


There is no immunity but there is rule of law and due process. We are not a lawless banana republic just yet!

First the SSS/DSS has its powers and mandate confined to matters of internal security. The allegations against the judges centre around professional misconduct, alleged solicitation and receipt of bribe in connection with his professional capacity as a judge. If u juxtapose these positions dispassionately, u will find that these alleged offences do not fall within the ambit of the DSS.The judges are not accused of armed robbery, rather there are allegations (according to the purported search warrants that have made the rounds) of falsehood, under declaration of assets and corrupt practices. None of these allegations are independent of their professions. The CCB is responsible for irregular declaration of assets not the DSS. In this case, the law broken is that of the establishment statute of the SSS.

Secondly, in keeping with the principles of democracy and constitutionality, each arm of government has internal regulatory mechanisms related to professional conduct and disciplinary measures. None of the allegations are independent of their professions. Therefore, such allegations must first be brought by way of petition to the NJC constitutionally charged with d role of discipline of judges among others as far as it borders on professional misconduct. If u have read d communique u will find clearly that the DSS never filed petitions against the Supreme Court justices. That against Pindiga was addressed and dismissed because the DSS could not substantiate their allegations. Tsamiya had already been suspended and recommended for a sack same as d former Chief Judge of Enugu. Ademola was already before the NJC by another individual and not the DSS! So, the DSS breached constitutional procedures and that is the law broken.
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I see u spend so much energy trying to make out a defence for the corrupt judges. But of cos, its just a waste of time. DSS are fully empowered and capable both legally and physically to arrest, apprehend and prosecute any entity that constitutes a threat to the nation. When people lose confidence in the judiciary and begin to take laws into their hands, that is definitely a threat to the country. It is the job of the DSS to nip it in the bud and prevent this from happening. So sorryn your epistle trying to support corruption and evil goes to no issue. The judges will have their day in court, so we can hear their story.

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