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BornStunner1:
FACTS ABOUT THE YORUBAS AKA AFONJAS
( 1 ) . Their story of
kingship began with Edo
prince and the Benin
recorded History .
( 2 ) . Ayayi crawder said,
little were know about
yoruba existence,
meaning they were not
part of Nigeria of today
boarder or were in small
settlement close to
dahomy. yoruba are half
muslims and those with
African traditions copied or got them from Benin
civilization . I doubt if they not immigrants from dahomy
mix with Benins or other fulani- hausa from Niger
. Bishop Samuel Adjayi Crowther (c . 1809 – 31
December 1891 ) Was the first African Anglican bishop
in Nigeria . Born in Osogun (in today's Iseyin Local
Government, Oyo State , Nigeria ) . His grandson was
Herbert Macaulay
( 3 ) . Yoruba have dublicity of kingship with the process
highly politized to being traditional . A system they try
copy from Benin but can 't get it real like the Benin
Kingdom. Edo Obaship is one of the most revered
institutions in the world because of the way it has
sustained its awesome prestige with strict and
meticulous attention to ancient traditions of valour ,
discipline and integrity . Edo chieftaincy titles cannot be
bought or conferred on non- indigenes or frivolously .
Every Edo chief performs a peculiarly sacred duty
and responsibility to the people of Edo. It does not make
sense , therefore , to think that a people who would not
and have never conferred their chieftaincy titles on non-
indigenes, would voluntarily invite , accept, or surrender
to non- indigenes as their kings . Due to celestial
origins , the Edo monarch cannot eat out and cannot be
diverted from full time palace duties to hustle
for contracts .
( 4 ) . Most of today
yoruba religion are
Benin Origin , Olokun ,
Ogun , Iha oguega (ifa ) ,
oronmila, Esago
(shango ) , Ayelala etc .
Many Benin traditions
and spirituality are
stillfully documented by
yorubas in high places
as YORUBA ? (Never mind the Edo man ' s christian
mindset quickly dening Edo have niothing to do with
African traditional religion , agreeing they are foriegn to
Edoland . . . LIE ) .
Although the Great Edo ( Benin ) Kingdom were not major
participants in the trans- Atlantic slave trade , because
the Obas (Kings ) believed that their subjects were too
valuable to sell away , and their noblemen had need of
war captives on their own farms , the influence of Edo
religion and medicine has still been substantial upon
the people of the Americas .
According to Mason (1996 ) , it has been widely
accepted that Olokun ( god of the sea ) worship
originated with the Edo and spread to the Yoruba ( p. 2) .
In fact, the most prominent part of Edo cultural
traditions that has made its mark in the New World is
Olokun worship. Olokun (god of the Waters ) worship
originated from Urhonigbe and then became prominent
at Ughoton around the Ethiope ( Olokun) River . The
priesthood and rituals were firmly established at the
time . Some of the possible points of contact happened
early. During the Ogiso Period , trade with the Yoruba
and Igbos was quite extensive. Olokun worship may
have spread to those areas through traders . Prior to the
Oba Period , Ekaladerhan Izoduwa was initiated into
Olokun as a chief Priest while he stayed at Ughoton ,
before his moving westward with his followers to
establish Ilefe ( Ero , 1999 , p . 108- 109) .
Once he arrived , Ekaladerhan Izoduwa brought Edo
traditions to those areas and was a King of his new
community called Ilefe , which could be what yoruba call
IFE. . From Ekaladerhan Izoduwa ’ s loins , the Yoruba
dynasties may have began. However, it is certain that
Olokun is an Edo divinity whose worship spread to the
outlying Yoruba areas.



And OWIE EDO KPATAKI ME KIN So leave Igbo people of this Cus I AM A FULL BLOODED EDO BOY FROM OGBE BENIN!! SO DONT GET IT TWISTED!

IVORY2009:
Nice one!
oba otorpeaaa Iseeee

gorgeousfm:
Why are you flooding every thread with your story. I did History in secondary school. My only concern is why the Edo kings adopted the title Oba. And why my colleague who is from Edo state bears Ayodeji Adewale Peters.

I am yet to see any omo Yoruba bearing Osahon Asemota, or Osaretin except it is adopted through marriage.

Goodluck.

cc: verygudbadguy

LordAdam:
@YourNemesis, @2dugged

The Yorubas are known for revisionist history. It is their trademark. Their high degree of literacy just smolders this tendency in a big way.

Ife kingdom is a rag compared to the old bini empire.

The only Yoruba monarchy that rivals the bini empire is the Oyo empire. And even in its height refrained from marching east to sack the Bini empire despite extending to present day Benin (the country) at some point.

That the Bini ethnicity is not at par to the Yoruba ethnicity does not change anything.

Macedonia once produced the finest general the world has ever known, and conqueror of the known world at his time--Alexander the Great. Macedonia is pretty insignificant in the present time. That does not erase the fact that the Middle East, Europe, and Asia once bowed to that little kingdom.

Same can be said about the Romans. Or the Nubians (Blacks in present day Sudan) setting the foundation for the Ancient Egyptian empire only to be schemed out at some point.

The Portuguese parleyed with the Bini more than they did with the Ife people. Present day Bini reach extends to the edge of the River Niger. The entire old Mid-West region and part of the old Eastern region have Bini blood flowing through them.

That Oduduwa was a Bini prince is a plausible theory.

But that is what it is--a theory. Because we can never really be sure.

However, to insinuate that the Oba of Benin is a Yoruba king is abominable, bordering on heresy for the strongly religious of the native Bini religion.

The Yorubas and Binis were neighbors. Of course, some elements would have robbed off. But make no mistake. NO YORUBA KINGDOM COULD HAVE PLACED A FOOT ON THE OLD BINI KINGDOM.

The Ovie of Ozoro secures his mandate from the Oba of Benin. So, you could rightly say he is a Bini king, despite him being a full-bred Isoko.

But the Oba of Benin does not secure his mandate from or fall under the tutelage of the Ooni of Ife like other Yoruba kings.

It's a good thing the Binis aren't letting you guys change history.

You lots are despicable. Utterly disappointing. Probably insane.

If the late Ooni of Ife had tried to insinuate that the Oba of Bini was lower than him in the 16th century, the Oba would have beheaded him, plucked out the eyes of his sons, sack his kingdom and hand it over to the Alaafin of Oyo as a gift.

He is (or rather was) lucky, we are in modern times, and anyone can make absurd claims.

-Lord

LordAdam:
@YourNemesis, @2dugged

The Yorubas are known for revisionist history. It is their trademark. Their high degree of literacy just smolders this tendency in a big way.

Ife kingdom is a rag compared to the old bini empire.

The only Yoruba monarchy that rivals the bini empire is the Oyo empire. And even in its height refrained from marching east to sack the Bini empire despite extending to present day Benin (the country) at some point.

That the Bini ethnicity is not at par to the Yoruba ethnicity does not change anything.

Macedonia once produced the finest general the world has ever known, and conqueror of the known world at his time--Alexander the Great. Macedonia is pretty insignificant in the present time. That does not erase the fact that the Middle East, Europe, and Asia once bowed to that little kingdom.

Same can be said about the Romans. Or the Nubians (Blacks in present day Sudan) setting the foundation for the Ancient Egyptian empire only to be schemed out at some point.

The Portuguese parleyed with the Bini more than they did with the Ife people. Present day Bini reach extends to the edge of the River Niger. The entire old Mid-West region and part of the old Eastern region have Bini blood flowing through them.

That Oduduwa was a Bini prince is a plausible theory.

But that is what it is--a theory. Because we can never really be sure.

However, to insinuate that the Oba of Benin is a Yoruba king is abominable, bordering on heresy for the strongly religious of the native Bini religion.

The Yorubas and Binis were neighbors. Of course, some elements would have robbed off. But make no mistake. NO YORUBA KINGDOM COULD HAVE PLACED A FOOT ON THE OLD BINI KINGDOM.

The Ovie of Ozoro secures his mandate from the Oba of Benin. So, you could rightly say he is a Bini king, despite him being a full-bred Isoko.

But the Oba of Benin does not secure his mandate from or fall under the tutelage of the Ooni of Ife like other Yoruba kings.

It's a good thing the Binis aren't letting you guys change history.

You lots are despicable. Utterly disappointing. Probably insane.

If the late Ooni of Ife had tried to insinuate that the Oba of Bini was lower than him in the 16th century, the Oba would have beheaded him, plucked out the eyes of his sons, sack his kingdom and hand it over to the Alaafin of Oyo as a gift.

He is (or rather was) lucky, we are in modern times, and anyone can make absurd claims.

-Lord

lexyking:
i have tried to stay off this rivalry between the yorubas and the benins because to me its useless and uncalled for,however i'm forced to set the records straight because it is said that when a lie continues to be told over and over again without either correcting the lie or revealing the truth such lies might start getting some credibility.now im not one who argues without cross checking the facts i had done an extensive research on the origins of this great tribes and i will be sharing my facts with you much more later fell free to cross check them after all there is a saying that everyone is entitled to there truths but everyone is not entitled to there own facts cos the facts are indisputable.let me stop the stories and start with the facts
FACT NO 1; the notion that Oduduwa the progenitor of the Yoruba race left Benin to go and found Ile ife is not only laughable but crazy,although for lack of records the exact year of Ile ife origin could not be gotten but all available facts agreed that between 1200 and 1400 A.D Ile ife had already developed a functional and well developed society this claim is validated by the age of of all the Yoruba artifact that was taken from Ile ife.WHILE the Binin kingdom only came into being by 1440 as a matter of fact there is no known artifact of Binin origin that predate that of IFE.
from this facts its obvious that Ile ife is older than Binin kingdom,so Oduduwa could not have come from binin.read and digest this i will be back with more fact!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IVORY2009:
Dor'omo epa....

basingstoke:
Ne Edo ghama, ne uselu gha ma.

Vorpal:
Wow.... I hope that sits well with the pre existing wives and wish that would be crown Prince and eventually king a good deal of courage and luck to brave the ill will that may come his way.

His sons may even argue that he benefitted from it but does not want them to benefit from it.

nkemdi89:
His first son was from a white woman.

BornStunner1:
THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE OBA EVERY OTHER ONE IS CLEARLY A COUNTERFEIT OBOOY SEE CLASS AND STANDARD!!

NOW ITS OBVIOUS THE BENIN DYNASTY IS FAR SUPERIOR
THAN THAT OF THE COPYCAT southwest

I see the Nysc student Aka ooni in ife came to pay His dues and Respects to the source of his FOREFATHER EKELERHAN AKA ODUDUWA pls ooni don't steal anything or artifact while leaving oo you are free to borrow our culture as you like BUT DONT STEAL ANYTIN I NOR WAN HEAR EVEN IF NA BY MISTAKE.

2dugged:
I have heard you oga,just like it's a fact that your oduduwa came from the sky, I still try to wonder why he was banished from heaven, and what happened to that chicken that formed the earth but you keep evading my question and delving into other things, now it's Oguola not bronze casters any more,hehehehehehe, that's where y'all got it wrong,when next you want to spread false tales, stick with something that is reasonable to all,not all this your sky stories, and from there you start twisting things,hehehehe, I bet you were there when oduduwa killed the chicken and sacrificed it to ifa after the earth was formed

Omeny:
Why will u join issues with me when u have non?

You blame Nairaland for this exposure.

I thank Nairaland for giving us Edos opportunity to thoroughly match you pple that are spreading wrong historical facts out there.

Thank you Nairaland.

macof:
igbo and bini have same myth just different name
its disgusting how u try to mock a story ur ancestors are guilty of telling.. shameless people
or maybe u weren't aware

Omeny:
Why will u join issues with me when u have non?

You blame Nairaland for this exposure.

I thank Nairaland for giving us Edos opportunity to thoroughly match you pple that are spreading wrong historical facts out there.

Thank you Nairaland.

macof:
i hope u know that no scholar takes u clowns seriously. shout from now till a thousand years u are too small to claim oduduwa.. deal with it

nkemdi89:
His first son was from a white woman.

LordAdam:
Who is claiming?

Oduduwa is from Bini.

FACT.

Or maybe you should read my posts on this thread.

If not for the Bini giving you guys Oduduwa, you guys would have been a bunch of rag-wearing riff-raffs. Because Oyo empire was birthed by a descendant of Oduduwa, and the empire was instrumental for creating a Yoruba hegemony that staved off the Fulani Jihad.

Deal with this fact supported by historians or hang yourself.
I
-Lord

2dugged:
so it's now binis and igbos, afonjas will not sieze to amaze me on this forum, clown sky people, please where did the sky man get his wife from, did she follow him from the sky too?or she was found inside the water that covered the surface of the earth?

BornStunner1:
THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE OBA EVERY OTHER ONE IS CLEARLY A COUNTERFEIT OBOOY SEE CLASS AND STANDARD!!

NOW ITS OBVIOUS THE BENIN DYNASTY IS FAR SUPERIOR
THAN THAT OF THE COPYCAT southwest

I see the Nysc student Aka ooni in ife came to pay His dues and Respects to the source of his FOREFATHER EKELERHAN AKA ODUDUWA pls ooni don't steal anything or artifact while leaving oo you are free to borrow our culture as you like BUT DONT STEAL ANYTIN I NOR WAN HEAR EVEN IF NA BY MISTAKE.

MabraO:
I am tired of these Yoruba children that don't know their root

U feed on some concorted stories.

The Oba of Benin even made it clear today in front of the Ooni that their Oduduwa was their banished son Ekaladeran who they were supposed to kill but u stead allowed to wander in the bush till he found himself in uhe(now present day Ife)

There is a question I ll ask u Yoruba folks
How come non of oduduwa's son took after the throne except his Chiefs that was next in line to him which Ogun?

2dugged:
to think they didn't even bring up some reasonable lie, they had to bring up the sky man and the chicken story, such clowns, I wonder how so called educated people will gladly accept that one sky man and his chicken formed the earth, I just read, and laugh, anyway let them keep waiting for the Oba of Benin in lle ife, we are watching, no need to argue further

LordAdam:
Who is claiming?

Oduduwa is from Bini.

FACT.

Or maybe you should read my posts on this thread.

If not for the Bini giving you guys Oduduwa, you guys would have been a bunch of rag-wearing riff-raffs. Because Oyo empire was birthed by a descendant of Oduduwa, and the empire was instrumental for creating a Yoruba hegemony that staved off the Fulani Jihad.

Deal with this fact supported by historians or hang yourself.

-Lord

LordAdam:
Who is claiming?

Oduduwa is from Bini.

FACT.

Or maybe you should read my posts on this thread.

If not for the Bini giving you guys Oduduwa, you guys would have been a bunch of rag-wearing riff-raffs. Because Oyo empire was birthed by a descendant of Oduduwa, and the empire was instrumental for creating a Yoruba hegemony that staved off the Fulani Jihad.

Deal with this fact supported by historians or hang yourself.

-Lord

paradigmshift:
his son from a white woman was killed spiritually, the Benin kingdom will never allow a foreigners ner to know their secret .. the son a white woman had for him was the first son but slept and never woke up, the demons n wizard in the palace killed him, the palace is another world on it own and that's why the oba of Benin is respected world wide......obaghatokpere iseeeeeee

BornStunner1:
FACTS ABOUT THE YORUBAS AKA AFONJAS
( 1 ) . Their story of
kingship began with Edo
prince and the Benin
recorded History .
( 2 ) . Ayayi crawder said,
little were know about
yoruba existence,
meaning they were not
part of Nigeria of today
boarder or were in small
settlement close to
dahomy. yoruba are half
muslims and those with
African traditions copied or got them from Benin
civilization . I doubt if they not immigrants from dahomy
mix with Benins or other fulani- hausa from Niger
. Bishop Samuel Adjayi Crowther (c . 1809 – 31
December 1891 ) Was the first African Anglican bishop
in Nigeria . Born in Osogun (in today's Iseyin Local
Government, Oyo State , Nigeria ) . His grandson was
Herbert Macaulay
( 3 ) . Yoruba have dublicity of kingship with the process
highly politized to being traditional . A system they try
copy from Benin but can 't get it real like the Benin
Kingdom. Edo Obaship is one of the most revered
institutions in the world because of the way it has
sustained its awesome prestige with strict and
meticulous attention to ancient traditions of valour ,
discipline and integrity . Edo chieftaincy titles cannot be
bought or conferred on non- indigenes or frivolously .
Every Edo chief performs a peculiarly sacred duty
and responsibility to the people of Edo. It does not make
sense , therefore , to think that a people who would not
and have never conferred their chieftaincy titles on non-
indigenes, would voluntarily invite , accept, or surrender
to non- indigenes as their kings . Due to celestial
origins , the Edo monarch cannot eat out and cannot be
diverted from full time palace duties to hustle
for contracts .
( 4 ) . Most of today
yoruba religion are
Benin Origin , Olokun ,
Ogun , Iha oguega (ifa ) ,
oronmila, Esago
(shango ) , Ayelala etc .
Many Benin traditions
and spirituality are
stillfully documented by
yorubas in high places
as YORUBA ? (Never mind the Edo man ' s christian
mindset quickly dening Edo have niothing to do with
African traditional religion , agreeing they are foriegn to
Edoland . . . LIE ) .
Although the Great Edo ( Benin ) Kingdom were not major
participants in the trans- Atlantic slave trade , because
the Obas (Kings ) believed that their subjects were too
valuable to sell away , and their noblemen had need of
war captives on their own farms , the influence of Edo
religion and medicine has still been substantial upon
the people of the Americas .
According to Mason (1996 ) , it has been widely
accepted that Olokun ( god of the sea ) worship
originated with the Edo and spread to the Yoruba ( p. 2) .
In fact, the most prominent part of Edo cultural
traditions that has made its mark in the New World is
Olokun worship. Olokun (god of the Waters ) worship
originated from Urhonigbe and then became prominent
at Ughoton around the Ethiope ( Olokun) River . The
priesthood and rituals were firmly established at the
time . Some of the possible points of contact happened
early. During the Ogiso Period , trade with the Yoruba
and Igbos was quite extensive. Olokun worship may
have spread to those areas through traders . Prior to the
Oba Period , Ekaladerhan Izoduwa was initiated into
Olokun as a chief Priest while he stayed at Ughoton ,
before his moving westward with his followers to
establish Ilefe ( Ero , 1999 , p . 108- 109) .
Once he arrived , Ekaladerhan Izoduwa brought Edo
traditions to those areas and was a King of his new
community called Ilefe , which could be what yoruba call
IFE. . From Ekaladerhan Izoduwa ’ s loins , the Yoruba
dynasties may have began. However, it is certain that
Olokun is an Edo divinity whose worship spread to the
outlying Yoruba areas.



And OWIE EDO KPATAKI ME KIN So leave Igbo people of this Cus I AM A FULL BLOODED EDO BOY FROM OGBE BENIN!! SO DONT GET IT TWISTED!