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MrPresident1:
You will soon realise, that what you are saying here, is trash. Very soon. Sooner than you think

Is a straw-man argument sort of.
you don't say a thing like that or try threatening your opponent by committing logically fallacy through appealing to ignorant.

Asserting inexplicable event which will take place sooner or later without data to back it up is absurd.

jomoh:
Are saying Bible is not useful in the scheme of things in this present world?

Exactly!

menesheh:
BOLDED: never reach upto that extent bruh.
You have to make your point and stop using harsh words.



Those hideous things i talked about are below.

There are plenty of evil in “the Good Book,” but here are some highlights:

1. God drowns the whole earth.
In Genesis 7:21-23, God drowns the entire population of the earth: men, women, children, fetuses, and perhaps unicorns. Only a single family survives. In Matthew 24:37-42, gentle Jesus approves of this genocide and plans to repeat it when he returns.

2. God kills half a million people.
In 2 Chronicles 13:15-18, God helps the men of Judah kill 500,000 of their fellow Israelites.

3. God slaughters all Egyptian firstborn.
In Exodus 12:29, God the baby-killer slaughters all Egyptian firstborn children and cattle because their king was stubborn.

4. God kills 14,000 people for complaining that God keeps killing them.
In Numbers 16:41-49, the Israelites complain that God is killing too many of them. So, God sends a plague that kills 14,000 more of them.

5. Genocide after genocide after genocide.
In Joshua 6:20-21, God helps the Israelites destroy Jericho, killing “men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.” In Deuteronomy 2:32-35, God has the Israelites kill everyone in Heshbon, including children. In Deuteronomy 3:3-7, God has the Israelites do the same to the people of Bashan. In Numbers 31:7-18, the Israelites kill all the Midianites except for the virgins, whom they take as spoils of war. In 1 Samuel 15:1-9, God tells the Israelites to kill all the Amalekites – men, women, children, infants, and their cattle – for something the Amalekites’ ancestors had done 400 years earlier.

6. God kills 50,000 people for curiosity.
In 1 Samuel 6:19, God kills 50,000 men for peeking into the ark of the covenant. (Newer cosmetic translations count only 70 deaths, but their text notes admit that the best and earliest manuscripts put the number at 50,070.)

7. 3,000 Israelites killed for inventing a god.
In Exodus 32, Moses has climbed Mount Sinai to get the Ten Commandments. The Israelites are bored, so they invent a golden calf god. Moses comes back and God commands him: “Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.” About 3,000 people died.

8. The Amorites destroyed by sword and by God’s rocks.
In Joshua 10:10-11, God helps the Israelites slaughter the Amorites by sword, then finishes them off with rocks from the sky.

9. God burns two cities to death.
In Genesis 19:24, God kills everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah with fire from the sky. Then God kills Lot’s wife for looking back at her burning home.

10. God has 42 children mauled by bears.
In 2 Kings 2:23-24, some kids tease the prophet Elisha, and God sends bears to dismember them. (Newer cosmetic translations say the bears “maul” the children, but the original Hebrew, baqa, means “to tear apart.”)

11. A tribe slaughtered and their virgins raped for not showing up at roll call.
In Judges 21:1-23, a tribe of Israelites misses roll call, so the other Israelites kill them all except for the virgins, which they take for themselves. Still not happy, they hide in vineyards and pounce on dancing women from Shiloh to take them for themselves.

12. 3,000 crushed to death.
In Judges 16:27-30, God gives Samson strength to bring down a building to crush 3,000 members of a rival tribe.

13. A concubine raped and dismembered.
In Judges 19:22-29, a mob demands to rape a godly master’s guest. The master offers his daughter and a concubine to them instead. They take the concubine and gang-rape her all night. The master finds her on his doorstep in the morning, cuts her into 12 pieces, and ships the pieces around the country.

14. Child sacrifice.
In Judges 11:30-39, Jephthah burns his daughter alive as a sacrificial offering for God’s favor in killing the Ammonites.

15. God helps Samson kill 30 men because he lost a bet.
In Judges 14:11-19, Samson loses a bet for 30 sets of clothes. The spirit of God comes upon him and he kills 30 men to steal their clothes and pay off the debt.

16. God demands you kill your wife and children for worshiping other gods.
In Deuteronomy 13:6-10, God commands that you must kill your wife, children, brother, and friend if they worship other gods.

17. God incinerates 51 men to make a point.
In 2 Kings 1:9-10, Elijah gets God to burn 51 men with fire from heaven to prove he is God.

18. God kills a man for not impregnating his brother’s widow.
In Genesis 38:9-10, God kills a man for refusing to impregnate his brother’s widow.

19. God threatens forced cannibalism.
In Leviticus 26:27-29 and Jeremiah 19:9, God threatens to punish the Israelites by making them eat their own children.

20. The coming slaughter.
According to Revelation 9:7-19, God’s got more evil coming. God will make horse-like locusts with human heads and scorpion tails, who torture people for 5 months. Then some angels will kill a third of the earth’s population. If he came today, that would be 2 billion people.

. Peaceful... indeed

MrPresident1:
Where did you think I'd begin from to expound the Bible to you? Have you ever given a thought to the futility of having an engaging conversation with the dead? I cannot help you, only God can. Humble yourself.

Don't expound the Bible to me. what makes you think you understand the bible more than i do. I wasn't born an atheist. I know those things. You should know by now that i live in a Christian part of the world. How dare you think that am deaf without ears whenever Christians come up with their disturbances in the name of preaching which we all do witness inside public trans, churches with ahuja, streets, etc, assuming if you ever presume that am not from a bible home.
Mind you, am not brain dead. You don't know what you are professing to know by always engaging in fallacious argument rather tackling issues at hand.


Invoking god at this extent makes you ignorant of the ideas and concepts you are defending. If am in your shoe as a Christian, i bet you to compare my argument with yours if any fvcking atheist could dare come my way, despite i may not be able to defend my position as a Christian with facts but i will try my possible best rather then resorting to straw-man.

menesheh:
Don't expound the Bible to me. what makes you think you understand the bible more than i do. I wasn't born an atheist. I know those things. You should know by now that i live in a Christian part of the world. How dare you think that am deaf without ears whenever Christians come up with their disturbances in the name of preaching which we all do witness inside public trans, churches with ahuja, streets, etc, assuming if you ever presume that am not from a bible home.
Mind you, am not brain dead. You don't know what you are professing to know by always engaging in fallacious argument rather tackling issues at hand.


Invoking god at this extent makes you ignorant of the ideas and concepts you are defending. If am in your shoe as a Christian, i bet you to compare my argument with yours if any fvcking atheist could dare come my way, despite i may not be able to defend my position as a Christian with facts but i will try my possible best rather then resorting to straw-man.

after reading your list of the ''acts of baba gee'' AKA yaweh..how did they arrive at the conclusion that God is love? or God is good?..me thinks the old testament God is different from the new testament one. because both ideas do not match at all. One thing i know for sure is that the early church fathers know what was in it and as such prevented it from going into public hands..now i know why the catholic church did not want people to own it, so they can pick and choose what part to preach to the people...makes lots of sense,

menesheh:
Don't expound the Bible to me. what makes you think you understand the bible more than i do. I wasn't born an atheist. I know those things. You should know by now that i live in a Christian part of the world. How dare you think that am deaf without ears whenever Christians come up with their disturbances in the name of preaching which we all do witness inside public trans, churches with ahuja, streets, etc, assuming if you ever presume that am not from a bible home.
Mind you, am not brain dead. You don't know what you are professing to know by always engaging in fallacious argument rather tackling issues at hand.


Invoking god at this extent makes you ignorant of the ideas and concepts you are defending. If am in your shoe as a Christian, i bet you to compare my argument with yours if any fvcking atheist could dare come my way, despite i may not be able to defend my position as a Christian with facts but i will try my possible best rather then resorting to straw-man.

It would be very futile trying to explain/expound/argue the Bible with you, see, it is just like the living trying to have a conversation with the dead, it is a dead zoned venture, no outcome, just an exercise in futility. I do not mean this as an insult in any way, just stating the facts. I have given you the short cut to understanding the Bible, But you did not take it well, you called it strawmanism. How do I reason the Bible with you when you are not Born Again? You are not born again so you cannot understand the Word of God.
The Word of God is what makes a man to be alive, without the word, you are dead, so make I dey waste my time arguing with the dead kwa?

Lemme show you something, wrap your head around it...
Genesis 2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Deuteronomy 32:46-47
And he said unto them, Set your hearts unto all the words which I testify among you this day, which ye shall command your children to observe to do, all the words of this law.
For it is not a vain thing for you; because it is your life: and through this thing ye shall prolong your days in the land, whither ye go over Jordan to possess it.

As you can see, the Word of God is life, no point bandying futile words with the dead.
A I said to you earlier, if you seek understanding, humble yourself, pray and forsake sin, get a KJV, start reading. It is called being Born Again, being reborn.

The Old Testament is not a Religion but the New Testament is Christianity and a Religion.

The Bible verses you quoted are simply talking about The Son of Man coming to redeem us and return us to our Heavenly home where we all, those of us who shall make Heaven, shall become Sons of God with Christ.

If you do not know who you really are, you cannot truly repent, if you do not truly repent, your slavery continues forever. 1, I agree 100%.

Deuteronomy 2: 1-3
2, Curses and Blessings refer to God's authorisation and approval of the Disobedience and Righteousness of His Task set before Adam and Eve; Cain and Abel; Noah,Abraham,Jacobetc and the facts that a Redeemer would come to set things right, to wipe out the curses and to implement the blessings.
Some tribes have stories about their ancestors migrating to their present day locations from the East.
3, Migration is all part of the Scattering and not yet the Gathering. What some tribes are remembering are the processes of the scattering.
Genesis 2:8 4, This refers to the Heavenly Home to where the Redeemer would eventually return us, the BornAgains, after gathering us from all over the world and from places to where He scattered us in the first instance.
And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
5, Let us now discuss with common understanding:- The Parable of the wheat and the Tares is talking here. The scattering of the first Adam and his offsprings to Noah, Abraham, Israelis, Arabs, Italy, Rome, Europe, Africa, US etc is relevant here. And, finally, The Redeeming Power of the Blood of the Lamb shall take all His gathered ones back to the Garden of our Heavenly Home. All hail the Lamb of God that carries away the sins of the world. Praise God. Alleluia!!!!

Heromaniaa:
abeg I wan sleep. make una karri una wahala go. so much contradictions everywhere. live by your untainted conscience ... don't do good because you wanna make heaven but do good because good is good. Read the bible, follow your heart.

I Salute this Your Beautiful Comment!!
You are Truly a Wise Person!!
I absolutely Agree with all you have Said!!

Read

hahn, come my young friend

MrPresident1:
hahn, come my young friend

Yes sir. I noticed the world hasn't ended yet.

Wetin dey happen?