₦airaland Forum

progress69:
How won't you make this kind of assertion when u have zero knowledge of what you are talking about. You think boiling crude in drums targeting only PMS is refining? Those hys only do that rubbish because they don't buy the crude but steal it, hence they can mess around with it and still make some money. Expand your knowledge, you won't, only to come an form online militants who doesn't even know jack about what they are talking about. And they call others illetrates. Smh for this youths

The fact about designating those small refineries as illegal is due to the laws and regulation guiding the operation of a refinery in Nigeria. Its not about whether the crude was stolen or not.
If a refiner targets only crude while refining, how is it of concern to you, when the flared gases is also a valuable commodity that was estimated in 2014 to be capable of powering our gas power plants if effectively harnessed. I can confidently tell you that a negligible percentage of the petrol we use in Nigeria is sourced from these 'illegal' refineries.

All the local refineries closed by the Navy and the civil defence corp are those operating without refiners licence, which licence is granted by the DPR after due assessment of the venture.

Now, what we are arguing about initially, is that the project at ABU and such other local ingenuity in addition to our moribund FG refinery, should inform the FG to liberalise its policy on local refinery. A change or amendment to the relevant laws on oil refining and mining, aimed at relaxing the hitherto strict procedure for the grant of licence, will see to it that these local ideas at refining are harnessed, put through to proper procedure and utilised to end fuel import and the FX burden.

erico2k2:
so you think all they do is just heat up crude to certain level, you dont know there is something else that could help speed up the reaction right.Its not as you think it to be, these guys in the creek have gone 1 step forward than we all realize,How do you think they manage to supply you a drum of diesel N30k in the SS if you got the contact?

Shut up jor, diesel n kerosene has a low boiling point compare to other products. So with ordinary heating of crude oil in a drum, u can get diesel, there's notin special there.

Bari22:
That's ABU for you people an ABU graduate is naturally ahead of you.

Dont get it twixted plzzz

A UNN graduate is naturally ahead of u

Laudable. The govt should not just sit down and look down on those students, they should be equipped for a greater effort to the country

ruxxz:
http://nnpcgroup.com/NNPCBusiness/Subsidiaries/KRPC.aspx
The products obtained at KRPC are as follows; LPG, AGO, PMS, Sulphur, Kerosene, Fuel oils etc

U don't compare Refining of crude oil to oil bunkering. As a matter of fact, what the ppl of A.B.U built is more of a pilot plant. The capacity of the refinery lends credence to that. It's a step in the right direction by the way.

OIl Bunkering is stealing of Oil and storage period.has nothing to do with refining.
The etc you said was what I meant by we do not harvest teh full product crude refining has to give in NIgeria.

MrTruth4real:
Shut up jor, diesel n kerosene has a low boiling point compare to other products. So with ordinary hating of crude oil in a drum, u can get diesel, there's notin special there.

Why not tell me the Temperature at which you can get Diesel from crude so as to shut me up once and for all
Let me educate you a bit, to obtain Diesel from crude the minimum temperature needed is 200 deg C, up to 350 deg C
So the fire wood in your village can produce such heat right?
DO you have any Idea of the amount of Energy needed to produce such heat?
Una go just come on line borrow MB to type craaaaaap and trasssssh .Mtchhh
Next!!

Topmostt:
Oga you are the illiterate person here. The guy is very correct, there are a lot of local refineries in the SS but unfortunately , the govt termed them illegal and out to destroy them.

Abeg snap picture of one of those illegal refinery let's compare it to this.

Bari22:
That's ABU for you people an ABU graduate is naturally ahead of you.

ABU is not the first or second university to own a modular refinery.

Montaque:
The fact of a private citizen operating a refinery in Nigeria is illegal. Whether he bought the crude or stole it, refining it is alone an illegal act.

Stop saying what u don't know... There are procedures for obtaining a licence for private refineries

What can u operate in Nigeria or any other country without licence

erico2k2:
u are way behind, boiling was a thing of the past.What do you think teh guys at PTI warri DO then? take care of cows??

Pti is a monotechnics, i have been there.. they are only showed how to maintain already existing technology not like engineering degree programmes

omoyowa:
I will advice you to stop disgracing yourself

Is that all your "highly intelligent" brain can produce. Smh

mrvitalis:
Pti is a monotechnics, i have been there.. they are only showed how to maintain already existing technology not like engineering degree programmes

When was the last time you got there?I think you where there 10 years ago correct me if Im wrong

mrvitalis:
Stop saying what u don't know... There are procedures for obtaining a licence for private refineries

What can u operate in Nigeria or any other country without licence

I think you picked my post out of context. Check my other post and response on this discuss to get a broad opinion of what I know. Cheers

erico2k2:
When was the last time you got there?I think you where there 10 years ago correct me if Im wrong

I ran a short course with them this year

mrvitalis:
I ran a short course with them this year

And you said they do not run degree programs? are you sure?

erico2k2:
And you said they do not run degree programs? are you sure?

Pti is a monotechnics that's specialised polytechnic

mrvitalis:
Pti is a monotechnics that's specialised polytechnic

So what does this mean plz xplain
https://www.nairaland.com/300120/fg-reverses-warri-pti-upgrade
http://allafrica.com/stories/200604110104.html
b4 you go further my very good classmate whom I went to Uni with in the East lectures there in the Elct Elct Dept and he is PHD
try and be clever next time

Realdeals:
If crude oil bunkerers in the ND had something like this, govt wouldn't destroy it..

Good thing you said "crude oil bunkerers"

erico2k2:
So what does this mean plz xplain
https://www.nairaland.com/300120/fg-reverses-warri-pti-upgrade
http://allafrica.com/stories/200604110104.html
b4 you go further my very good classmate whom I went to Uni with in the East lectures there in the Elct Elct Dept and he is PHD
try and be clever next time

Of course PhD lecturers lecture in poly and seriously even a professor will jump to Pti cos they pay like oil companies not like polytechnic or university

mrvitalis:
Of course PhD lecturers lecture in poly and seriously even a professor will jump to Pti cos they pay like oil companies not like polytechnic or university

Did you read the Link,it was upgraded to a University in 2009, or you just ignored that part

Topmostt:
So you expect people to spend 20million naira to build refineries that govt would destroy the next minute? SMH for you. And who told you its just PMS they produce MR Enlightened? For your information their major product is even AGO. The reason they resort to such crude and limited refining is because they try to get most from limited resources. Please accept it if you can that SS villager build refineries and can build better ones without having to spend 20 million naira if allowed to.

Mtcheeeew. This one cant even argue intelligently. Why are u trying to digress from the main subject matter of argument and trying to juxtapose another thing entirely. For your information, Batch distillation which is what they try to do by boiling the crude in drums is just a fragement of the whole refining process. At the end you still have so many impurities that kills engine faster

erico2k2:
Did you read the Link,it was upgraded to a University in 2009, or you just ignored that part

It never made head way.. . I can tell u Pti never awarded a degree. .. The idea was abandoned that was what lead to the university of petroleum warri... It was all a plan..

Pti never awarded a degree and ur link said it has been reversed

Topmostt:
Oga you are the illiterate person here. The guy is very correct, there are a lot of local refineries in the SS but unfortunately , the govt termed them illegal and out to destroy them.

Or perhaps you don't know what a refinery is...

Walexz02:
Or perhaps you don't know what a refinery is...

Ok xplain to US what a refinery is plz

So that is what 20 million naira of locally sourced materials looks like?

This is highly commendable... Our universities had better start practicing what they teach

erico2k2:
Why not tell me the Temperature at which you can get Diesel from crude so as to shut me up once and for all
Let me educate you a bit, to obtain Diesel from crude the minimum temperature needed is 200 deg C, up to 350 deg C
So the fire wood in your village can produce such heat right?
DO you have any Idea of the amount of Energy needed to produce such heat?
Una go just come on line borrow MB to type craaaaaap and trasssssh .Mtchhh
Next!!

my frd a firewood can giv u 800 deg C.

1 barrel per day?we are still way behind .This should not even make a front page.. ise wa latise.

billyG:
my frd a firewood can giv u 800 deg C.

Then U know nothing about heat.Sorry to say, check the melting point of your aluminum pot.

FrankLampard:
This people are way behind time. Something that is all over SS even built by villagers. Hmmm!!!

I guess FG will encourage them because it's from the north and keep using our Arm forces on innocent guys down South.

N20M For A Refinery Of (1) Barrel Per Day For An Institution Such As ABU Are Happy About It, Is A Shame And Disgrace.

Waste Of Money, Time And Resources. Professor, Pls Visit Delta And Bayelsa Creek, Mini Refinery Of 2,000 Liters Per 4 Hours Less Than N2.5M And Very Efficient.

bulakos25:
The Department of Chemical Engineering of the Ahmadu Bello University (ABU), Zaria, has established a refinery with capacity to process one barrel of crude oil per day.
The team leader of the project, Professor Ibrahim Ali Muhammad Dabo told our correspondent who visited the refinery site that at present the refinery would be used mainly for the training of students, although the department had the manpower to build a refinery that would be bigger than that of Kaduna if it had government support.
“The initial idea was to construct a 1,000 barrel-capacity refinery, but lack of funding limited us to this one, where we would now be refining one barrel per day,” Dabo said, adding that more than 80 per cent of the materials used for the construction of the refinery were sourced locally.
“Only the controls were sourced from Hong Kong. No expatriate was hired from abroad. All those that were engaged in this project are Nigerians. Therefore, this mini refinery is a product of Nigerian brains. If government can come in, we have the ability to do wonderful things, not only refinery.
This is our training and it is what our department is meant for,” he said.
He explained that beside the land and fencing that ABU provided, the project cost only about N20 million.
Professor Dabo further stated that the idea of the mini refinery was conceived about 15 years back, but work commenced fully in the year 2011.

www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/general/abu-builds-1-barrel-per-day-oil-refinery/171165.html

Proud of my alma mater and most of the guys in the project were my classmates and lecturers. Proudly Abusite.