₦airaland Forum

Birniwa:
Yet the country sells fuel as high as N175/ltr in many places despite the so-called abundance of refineries in the SS? Illiteracy kills faster than anything at least in our society. I blame your parents.

u can blame his parents buh couldn't blame the government that has spend billions on kaduna & eleme refineries without getting 1ltr of crude products from it.

aljharem:
True but we don't separate mix perfectly. We use a range of boiling points. For example if gasoline is within the range of 80-120 and kerosine (Fraction A) is withing 120-220 Celsius, some of the kerosine will be distilled into the gasoline and vise versa.

Not only that we watch the Octane number, RON and Cetane number (diesel) to measure the quality. If after distilling the octane number of Gasoline is 150 for example but specification says it should not be below 98 then we can mix some "junks" from the crude oil distillation to bulk it up. More like making soup and adding water to increase it's volume etc. Some of the junks can be cracked, alkalated, reformed etc just to make better quality

But all in all, refining is boiling point separation

You don't know Jack about refining. Keep reading your textbooks and copying from there. "Refining is about boiling point". Abeg when you are ready you can come for some serious lectures on refining. I won't charge you a penny though.

Emmaoga:
nice, the solution to our problems is within us.

don't mind the man that said we will start producing pencil in 2018.

Nigerians are gifted either one way or the other but greediness at the top chamber will not allow our talents to shine through.

But, seriously do we produce pencil in Nigeria? All d pencil i see around here are Made in China

Kudos to ABU on this, it is indeed a stepping stone to training our young engineers. How i wish a responsive government would key into this and fund meaningful projects (Science and Technology) aimed at national growth. Japan does not have oil, yet she parades the highest number of world-class refineries in the whole world. Think about it!

hotspec:
But, seriously do we produce pencil in Nigeria? All d pencil i see around here are Made in China

lol.

Birniwa:
Yet the country sells fuel as high as N175/ltr in many places despite the so-called abundance of refineries in the SS? Illiteracy kills faster than anything at least in our society. I blame your parents.

I'm 100% sure you've not been to the SS before. Their refinery is more Eco friendly with what this inexperienced guy did there

mrvitalis:
U really think boiling crude oil in drums is refining?? I laugh u... That's only profitable because they don't buy crude they steal... This is good

And who told you they are boiling crude oil in drums? Same way they have perfected the art of Dry gin making. That is the same technology they are using to produce fuel.

FrankLampard:
And who told you they are boiling crude oil in drums? Same way they have perfected the art of Dry gin making. That is the same technology they are using to produce fuel.

Sorry that's different.. . Distillation is different from fractional distillation

mrvitalis:
Sorry that's different.. . Distillation is different from fractional distillation

I know it well more than you. This is just basic science.

I have seen these guys refine this petroleum products with ease. Their only problem is govt disturbances at various times which I guess is as a result of some of them undergoing bunkery operations. My take is that, We have this technology in place already, why spend huge to reinvent it.

Birniwa:
Yet the country sells fuel as high as N175/ltr in many places despite the so-called abundance of refineries in the SS? Illiteracy kills faster than anything at least in our society. I blame your parents.

It is a pity he types while dreaming....dont mind him

FrankLampard:
I know it well more than you. This is just basic science.

I have seen these guys refine this petroleum products with ease. Their only problem is govt disturbances at various times which I guess is as a result of some of them undergoing bunkery operations. My take is that, We have this technology in place already, why spend huge to reinvent it.

First they will never make profit refining that way if they actually buy crude and not steal

Second their products are not save as t QA /QC is virtually non available am sure u most have had of someone who waa burnt by kerosene not to talk about cae engines knocking every day

Saying legalising illegal refineries is like saying we should legalise quack doctors

mrvitalis:
First they will never make profit refining that way if they actually buy crude and not steal

Second their products are not save as t QA /QC is virtually non available am sure u most have had of someone who waa burnt by kerosene not to talk about cae engines knocking every day

Saying legalising illegal refineries is like saying we should legalise quack doctors

There are some that do their refining process legally. Those ones should be left alone and regulated.

See what our lawmakers are saying.


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/10/lawmaker-fg-stop-destroying-illegal-refineries-regulate/

https://www.naij.com/639761-fuel-scarcity-fg-legalize-illegal-refineries-ben-bruce.html

This is because FG know this guys are good in what they do.

hotspec:
But, seriously do we produce pencil in Nigeria? All d pencil i see around here are Made in China

Theya re made in ABA but these people will write made in china so you value them,i do not blame them thats how Tiwan started, even china will make something and say its made in teh UK.

mrvitalis:
Sorry that's different.. . Distillation is different from fractional distillation

When will you guys realize that there a chemical and petroleum Engineers in the creek?to think they are illiterates right?
I have seen a robot that can drill, cut,weld a valve to an existing (MTL) major trunk line. now that would cost more than N40M,its in the creek and guess who was guarding it, our honorable boys in Uniform.The guys behind Oil thieving are big shots in ABJ,whenever you see drums being burnt that's Local Gin factory, but if you see badges then that's the real deal.

mrvitalis:
First they will never make profit refining that way if they actually buy crude and not steal

Second their products are not save as t QA /QC is virtually non available am sure u most have had of someone who waa burnt by kerosene not to talk about cae engines knocking every day

Saying legalising illegal refineries is like saying we should legalise quack doctors

Not at all major difference, IGBO was legalized in some states in teh US, latest California, they just realized teh state would make loads of money in tax from sales and tourism,Same way Holland legalize prostitution.
Chey nah PH you dey, you nor see boys dey sell full drum of Diesel N30K, how you think say that possible??

you might find stuff like this in the creek, it gets advanced as you move up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-yYbSg0kiw
and this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BlY9QT2fJo

erico2k2:
Theya re made in ABA but these people will write made in china so you value them,i do not blame them thats how Tiwan started, even china will make something and say its made in teh UK.

Bros, pls give me d name of one company dt produces pencil in Aba and d address.

hotspec:
Bros, pls give me d name of one company dt produces pencil in Aba and d address.

They wont put thier name on it, so I wont know, but which is easier to produce? Pencil made of wood and graphite or Plastic cup and plates?

erico2k2:
They wont put thier name on it, so I wont know, but which is easier to produce? Pencil made of wood and graphite or Plastic cup and plates?

What u dont understand is dt many of those products were actually produced in China. We take d prototype/design/blueprint to industries in China for them to produce for us at an agreed standard. We bring them back to d country for sale.

hotspec:
What u dont understand is dt many of those products were actually produced in China. We take d prototype/design/blueprint to industries in China for them to produce for us at an agreed standard. We bring them back to d country for sale.

Not all but some.I have sourced raw materials from china B4.

erico2k2:
Why not tell me the Temperature at which you can get Diesel from crude so as to shut me up once and for all
Let me educate you a bit, to obtain Diesel from crude the minimum temperature needed is 200 deg C, up to 350 deg C
So the fire wood in your village can produce such heat right?
DO you have any Idea of the amount of Energy needed to produce such heat?
Una go just come on line borrow MB to type craaaaaap and trasssssh .Mtchhh
Next!!

Its obvious u have not been to where they do bunkering b4, so u can come online n talk shit. Now who told u it's fire wood they use to generate their heat. If u call the crap those oil Bunker's do a refinery then u really need to go n educate urself.

vineyardfarms:
N20M For A Refinery Of (1) Barrel Per Day For An Institution Such As ABU Are Happy About It, Is A Shame And Disgrace.

Waste Of Money, Time And Resources. Professor, Pls Visit Delta And Bayelsa Creek, Mini Refinery Of 2,000 Liters Per 4 Hours Less Than N2.5M And Very Efficient.

2000 liters per 4 hours? Is that even a word?

aljharem:
What else is refining if not seperation by boiling point

Let's call a spade a spade

Probably some blending will take place and cracking and hydrotreatment

Have u been to a refinery b4, cus ur question is so stupid.

MrTruth4real:
2000 liters per 4 hours? Is that even a word?

No One Has Monopoly Of Knowledge. Share Yours Ideas. We Are Waiting Sir. Thanks

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