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Frankly, I share in the belief that whoever drafted the 1999 constitution, did so with a clear cut agenda, that is, the plan to enshrine Islam into the law of Nigeria.

Yes, I understand why the christians want their own court. Surely, if it's good for the goose it's good for the gander.

Islam and christianity (it's followers) have wrecked more havoc than any religious group in this country.

The continuous 'cold war' between this two religious group is dividing this country. So let them have what they want, next the atheist and traditionalist will come and demand for their own court.

Let's see who will be smiling at the end of the day. A people that is brain wash with religion can and will never have any thing going for them.

If our christians and Muslims have an aorta of sense in that lobotomized thing they call a brain, they should take a look at overtly religious country like Saudi Arabia, U.A.E and Vatican City, then compare it with Nigeria, I believe the difference is clear, like 7-Up.

Goke7:
oga, I will be the most surprised if that christian bill is not passed, its a bait and it has divided Christians already, have you heard CAN and PFN come out to speak against this bill? even on nairaland, we Christians are already divided, its a bait that has exposed Christians on nairaland [especially ffk followers] those who fuel religious hatred and bigotry against muslims as some of them surprisingly are kicking against the bill like you. The Muslims got us here, only God can fight our battle now. Even if the Christians in the legislature shout the bill down, the muslims will make sure it sail thru and remember dem get the number o!

FFK is a bigot along with his followers. Most of them are frustrated and see religious extremism as a route to express frustration. The bill won't sail

JoeBlocks:
Frankly, I share in the belief that whoever drafted the 1999 constitution, did so with a clear cut agenda, that is, the plan to enshrine Islam into the law of Nigeria.

Yes, I understand why the christians want their own court. Surely, if it's good for the goose it's good for the gander.

Islam and christianity (it's followers) have wrecked more havoc than any religious group in this country.

The continuous 'cold war' between this two religious group is dividing this country. So let them have what they want, next the atheist and traditionalist will come and demand for their own court.

Let's see who will be smiling at the end of the day. A people that is brain wash with religion can and will never have any thing going for them.

If our christians and Muslims have an aorta of sense in that lobotomized thing they call a brain, they should take a look at overtly religious country like Saudi Arabia, U.A.E and Vatican City, then compare it with Nigeria, I believe the difference is clear, like 7-Up.

@the bolded, and you think this country will contain all these other courts? trouble dey sleep, na yanga wake am o!

Goke7:
@the bolded, and you think this country will contain all these other courts? trouble dey sleep, yanga na yanga wake am o!

Waiting for Lalasticlala for audience. Truth is we (Young people) must block every means that is geared as creating problems for us and coming generation

Goke7:
@the bolded, and you think this country will contain all these other courts? trouble dey sleep, yanga na yanga wake am o!

That's exactly my point!. The christians and Muslims in Nigeria believe they own Nigeria, that's why they do as they please and shove their dogmatic archaic beliefs down other people's throat.

If they can have what they want, why shouldn't others have what they want also?

TonyeBarcanista:
FFK is a bigot along with his followers. Most of them are frustrated and see religious extremism as a route to express frustration. The bill won't sail

Political prostitute is better. It sounds familiar, right?

JoeBlocks:
That's exactly my point!. The christians and Muslims in Nigeria believe they own Nigeria, that's why they do as they please and shove their dogmatic archaic beliefs down other people's throat.

If they can have what they want, why shouldn't others have what they want also?

I am a practicing Christian but I have to state that Christianity is not meant to replace civil law. As a faith, it is about our poersonal relationship with God and men of all race and creed. In fact, the Bible recognized civil authority as God ordained and enjoin Christian to abide by laws of the land as long as it doesnt conflict with our faith. Jesus said his Kingdom is not of this world, why are religious titleholders trying to change that?

JoeBlocks:
That's exactly my point!. The christians and Muslims in Nigeria believe they own Nigeria, that's why they do as they please and shove their dogmatic archaic beliefs down other people's throat.

If they can have what they want, why shouldn't others have what they want also?

Honestly as a christian I feel ashamed about certain things, when you talk, other Christians say you are supporting islam. Do you know am against Churches owning universities or even banks? a Christian individual can but not church entities yet when you talk they say after all the muslims have theirs, shebi churches now have universities and banks, now we want courts now.

We are killing our nation cos its now a 'dog eat dog' competition. Am sick of Nigeria, the moment you have hope that things are on track, the next moment we go 50 years backward, very soon this country will not even contain you and I with the way we are going.

There is also another yeye bill again where Lagos, Kano and Anambra will all be given special status to pacify those who were annoyed with the Lagos special status bill initially. what sort of country is this?

The devil,s game.

TonyeBarcanista:
I am a practicing Christian but I have to state that Christianity is not meant to replace civil law. As a faith, it is about our poersonal relationship with God and men of all race and creed. In fact, the Bible recognized civil authority as God ordained and enjoin Christian to abide by laws of the land as long as it doesnt conflict with our faith. Jesus said his Kingdom is not of this world, why are religious titleholders trying to change that?

Same way they preach prosperity above salvation.

Saying you're a christian doesn't mean you are, bro. Remember, "action speak louder than words".

It's the same thing we see everyday in Nigeria. Christians and Muslims shout about saying they're christians and Muslims while their very action speak that they're no better than badly paid religious drunks.

It might thrill you to know christians of today hardly follow Biblical teaching. They've carved out their own laws and they abide by it however they see fit.

Goke7:
Honestly as a christian I feel ashamed about certain things, when you talk, other Christians say you are supporting islam. Do you know am against Churches owning universities or even banks? a Christian individual can but not church entities yet when you talk they say after all the muslims have theirs, shebi churches now have universities and banks, now we want courts now.

We are killing our nation cos its now a 'dog eat dog' competition. Am sick of Nigeria, the moment you have hope that things are on track, the next moment we go 50 years backward, very soon this country will not even contain you and I with the way we are going.

There is also another yeye bill again where Lagos, Kano and Anambra will all be given special status to pacify those who were annoyed with the Lagos special status bill initially. what sort of country is this?

Slowly but surely, Nigeria is approaching the period where it will implode, as a result of religious and tribal sentiment.

What is this rubbish? Nigerian "Christians" are amongst the sickest most hypocritical people Ive ever had the misfortune of running across. Very confused lot.

JoeBlocks:
Same way they preach prosperity above salvation.

Saying you're a christian doesn't mean you are, bro. Remember, "action speak louder than words".

It's the same thing we see everyday in Nigeria. Christians and Muslims shout about saying they're christians and Muslims while their very action speak that they're no better than badly paid religious drunks.

It might thrill you to know christians of today hardly follow Biblical teaching. They've carved out their own laws and they abide by it however they see fit.

The words you quoted refers to them as "religious titlholders". Like you said, Christianity is not a title, it is a practice. Those that practice the faith are Christians, those that doesn't are not.

Let's declare this country a secular state and see the progress we'd make in a short while

TonyeBarcanista:
I am a practicing Christian but I have to state that Christianity is not meant to replace civil law. As a faith, it is about our poersonal relationship with God and men of all race and creed. In fact, the Bible recognized civil authority as God ordained and enjoin Christian to abide by laws of the land as long as it doesnt conflict with our faith. Jesus said his Kingdom is not of this world, why are religious titleholders trying to change that?

truth is we have allowed those who are not truly Christians to speak for Christendom especially with the likes of ffk and fayose, their inciting statements against others have not help matters, some of us Christians foolishly taught they were fighting fo us as christians and sorry the likes of Rev father kukah has not help issues, how do you explain rev kukah visiting ffk and other pdp politicians in detention all in the name of solidarity. stuff like that makes the church look weak but when you talk other christians shout you down all because they hate PMB a muslim.

We brought this on ourselves, I know it will come to this when GEJ was going round churches posing as a christian to cover all his incompetence as a leader, he also had the likes of Pastor Ayo fueling him on and so deepening the wall of division btw Christians and muslims.

Tonye, this is the truth, we have allowed those who are not Christians to set the standard for the rest of us [Christians] and I repeat only God can bail us out, Have you been reading statements from the new CAN President since he became President of CAN, mhen that guy no be am o, Am also waiting for his statement on the eccl or wetin you call am sef christian bill. We are in a deeper poo than you think bruv.

TonyeBarcanista:
The words you quoted refers to them as "religious titlholders". Like you said, Christianity is not a title, it is a practice. Those that practice the faith are Christians, those that doesn't are not.

And how do we know those who practice the faith?

Goke7:
truth is we have allowed those who are not truly Christians to speak for Christendom especially with the likes of ffk and fayose, their inciting statements against others have not help matters, some of us Christians foolishly taught they were fighting fo us as christians and sorry the likes of Rev father kukah has not help issues, how do you explain rev kukah visiting ffk and other pdp politicians in detention all in the name of solidarity. stuff like that makes the church look weak but when you talk other christians shout you down all because they hate PMB a muslim.

We brought this on ourselves, I know it will come to this when GEJ was going round churches posing as a christian to cover all his incompetence as a leader, he also had the likes of Pastor Ayo fueling him on and so deepening the wall of division btw Christians and muslims.

Tonye, this is the truth, we have allowed those who are not Christians to set the standard for the rest of us [Christians] and I repeat only God can bail us out, Have you been reading statements from the new CAN President since he became President of CAN, mhen that guy no be am o, Am also waiting for his statement on the eccl or wetin you call am sef christian bill. We are in a deeper poo than you think bruv.

As long as Tonye is concerned, those people in CAN, PFN and other related unions are representing themselves and their families, Not Christianity. What they are trying to do is to infuse Christianity into their personal hustle, it is about them and them alone.

As for FFK, I have known him since his days as SSA to Obasanjo and later minister, he is a nutcase. He isn't as normal as you think. Just like his father, he is a bigot and talkative.

We won't allow them to create problem for us, it is better we speak out against them now or else we will compund our problems.

JoeBlocks:
And how do we know those who practice the faith?

It is not left for anyone to determine, bbut by their fruit you shall know them.

TonyeBarcanista:
It is not left for anyone to determine, bbut by their fruit you shall know them.

I hear you.

Goke7:
oga, I will be the most surprised if that christian bill is not passed, its a bait and it has divided Christians already, have you heard CAN and PFN come out to speak against this bill? even on nairaland, we Christians are already divided, its a bait that has exposed Christians on nairaland [especially ffk followers] those who fuel religious hatred and bigotry against muslims as some of them surprisingly are kicking against the bill like you. The Muslims got us here, only God can fight our battle now. Even if the Christians in the legislature shout the bill down, the muslims will make sure it sail thru and remember dem get the number o!

Who divides who?
Does supporting it are doing so because of their shortsightedness.
NO TO ECCLESIASTICAL COURT!
NO TO SHARIA COURT!

Olabestonic001:
Who divides who?
Does supporting it are doing so because of their shortsightedness.
NO TO ECCLESIASTICAL COURT!
NO TO SHARIA COURT!

NO TO RELIGIOUS COURTS

TonyeBarcanista:
NO TO RELIGIOUS COURTS

HOW DEN DO WE SAVE LIITTLE CHRISTIAN GIRL CHILD(CHILDREN) LIKE THIS, FROM THE HANDS OF EMIR AND THEIR HISBAH COURT?

THIS IS AN ON GOING CRISIS, LILLTLE CHILDREN, PARTICULARLY GIRLS WILL BE ABDUCTED THREATENED INTO ISLAM, RAPED, IMPREGNANTED AND HELD CAPTIVE UNDER THE JUSRISDICTION OF SHARIA COURT.


ONE RECENTLY HAPPENED IN KATSINA INVOLVING THE EMIR OF KATSINA. TILL THIS DATE THE CHILD IS STILL IN CUSTODY OF THE EMIR WITHOUT ANY REGARD TO HAR PARENTS(FAMILY)


EVEN CHICKEN RUNNING AROUND OUTSIDE HAS AN OWNER. CAN SANUSI OR BUHARI TAKE THAT FOR ONE MINUTE?

ALL I CARE ABOUT IS FOR PEADOPHILES TO STOP PREYING ON CHILDREN AND DENYING THEM EDUCATION, FAMILY LIFE AND CHILDHOOD.


THIS IS MY PRIMARY CONCERN.

OILSOUP:
ALL I CARE ABOUT IS FOR PEADOPHILES TO STOP PREYING ON CHILDREN AND DENYING THEM EDUCATION, FAMILY LIFE AND CHILDHOOD.


THIS IS MY PRIMARY CONCERN.

and you think the christian court will solve the problem abi?

Goke7:
and you think the christian court will solve the problem abi?

wat is the solution? wen we said don vote Buhari u think we were stupid.

Now u are asking me. The truth is the north is over powerful, that needs to be checked.


How can anybdy just take somebody daughter put hijab on her head by force, rape and impregnate her and take the case to islamic court that she is a convert?

OILSOUP:
HOW DEN DO WE SAVE LIITTLE CHRISTIAN GIRL CHILD(CHILDREN) LIKE THIS, FROM THE HANDS OF EMIR AND THEIR HISBAH COURT?

THIS IS AN ON GOING CRISIS, LILLTLE CHILDREN, PARTICULARLY GIRLS WILL BE ABDUCTED THREATENED INTO ISLAM, RAPED, IMPREGNANTED AND HELD CAPTIVE UNDER THE JUSRISDICTION OF SHARIA COURT.


ONE RECENTLY HAPPENED IN KATSINA INVOLVING THE EMIR OF KATSINA. TILL THIS DATE THE CHILD IS STILL IN CUSTODY OF THE EMIR WITHOUT ANY REGARD TO HAR PARENTS(FAMILY)


EVEN CHICKEN RUNNING AROUND OUTSIDE HAS AN OWNER. CAN SANUSI OR BUHARI TAKE THAT FOR ONE MINUTE?

Hpw does this relate to Christian Court that is a fraud? Which Christian sef?

OILSOUP:
wat is the solution? wen we said don vote Buhari u think we were stupid.

Now u are asking me. The truth is the north is over powerful, that needs to be checked.


How can anybdy just take somebody daughter put hijab on her head by force, rape and impregnate her and take the case to islamic court that she is a convert?

And how does Christianity come in? You are talking in abstract

OILSOUP:
wat is the solution? wen we said don vote Buhari u think we were stupid.

Now u are asking me. The truth is the north is over powerful, that needs to be checked.


How can anybdy just take somebody daughter put hijab on her head by force, rape and impregnate her and take the case to islamic court that she is a convert?

oh PMB is your problem I see, he was the one that took the girl and put hijab on her head ba? This is what we have been saying since on this thread, our bigotry against someone we never wanted to be leader is the reason we must also promote hatred against his people and his religion.

Congrats, the christian court has passed the second reading so when it succeeds in checking the so called powerful north according to you and
eradicate girls being taken by force and hijab put on their head, pls let us know so we can celebrate together.

Goke7:
oh PMB is your problem I see, he was the one that took the girl and put hijab on her head ba? This is what we have been saying since on this thread, our bigotry against someone we never wanted to be leader is the reason we must also promote hatred against his people and his religion.

Congrats, the christian court has passed the second reading so when it succeeds in checking the so called powerful north according to you and
eradicate girls being taken by force and hijab put on their head, pls let us know so we can celebrate together.

LOL it will be killed at Committee level

Goke7:
oh PMB is your problem I see, he was the one that took the girl and put hijab on her head ba? This is what we have been saying since on this thread, our bigotry against someone we never wanted to be leader is the reason we must also promote hatred against his people and his religion.

Congrats, the christian court has passed the second reading so when it succeeds in checking the so called powerful north according to you and
eradicate girls being taken by force and hijab put on their head, pls let us know so we can celebrate together.

you are not making sense bro....

TonyeBarcanista:
And how does Christianity come in? You are talking in abstract

you are not making sense too

drnoel:
Yep but important things to deliberate is staing them fools in the face since kingdom come. Since democracy came have we revisited our health bills? Have we done something on education? What of security bill? What of the constitutional court bill? There are too many bills that those @£&#hole could discuss. How does a religious bill help rhe masses? When u hear things like this it makes u wish u had a gun.

Had a gun?..lol two wrong don't make a right. Thats what am saying, they rather waste our time and resources making useless noise and at the end of the day are paid for nothing, with no impact on the life of the common man.