₦airaland Forum

naijalander:
we are obviously not on the same page, no one is a battle of superiority with you, we're just superior, doesn't matter if you believe it. Its not up to you. So move on please, you don't know me and I don't feel the need to explain myself to you, I know myself, I know who I am, your validation is not needed.

You are superior in in just two aspects, and u know it. The size of your population and the GDP. You are dwarfed in so many other aspects by many other countries, like Kenya. And that is a fact we have showed here.

highheybee:
Funny is when Nigerians are showcasing advancement it technology our counterparts are busy showing us farms...farm my foot....abeg show us something innovative from your country not all these farm...we are building cars,motorcycles,ship,gunship mounted tanks and this guys are still showing us farms....I reserve my comment though

Is someone experiencing difficulties in relating agriculture to industry?

- Farmers choice company
- Bidco
- margarine being processed,
- meat processing

Those beautiful hotels we've been posting go through Alot of farm produce in a day

My favorite

Cape Town Stadium

highheybee:
Funny is when Nigerians are showcasing advancement it technology our counterparts are busy showing us farms...farm my foot....abeg show us something innovative from your country not all these farm.......I reserve my comment though

KENYA IS THE LEADING PRODUCER THROUGH SMALL FARMS TO MAJOR MARKETS
THE TEA NIGERIANS DRINK ARE FARMED IN KENYA
THE COFFEE NIGERIANS DRINK ARE FARMED IN KENYA
https://www.export.gov/apex/article2?id=Kenya-Agricultural-Sector

Agriculture is the backbone of Kenya’s economy, due to its significance in contributing to economic growth. Farmers in Kenya are involved in both small and large-scale farming of crops and/or livestock. 88.4% of Kenya's exports to the EU were agricultural products making it one of the biggest imports from Africa.
Kenya is a leading producer of tea and coffee, as well as the third-leading exporter of fresh produce, such as cabbages, onions and mangoes. Small farms grow most of the corn and also produce potatoes, bananas, beans and peas.The agricultural products are diverse and include cash crops such as coffee, tea, sisal and sugar. Grains, cotton, tropical fruit and coconuts are also grown. Staple crops include maize, pulses, millet, bananas, sweet potatoes and potatoes.

The Classy Cape Town Stadium

Kenyanstar:
KENYA IS THE LEADING PRODUCER THROUGH SMALL FARMS TO MAJOR MARKETS
THE TEA NIGERIANS DRINK ARE FARMED IN KENYA
THE COFFEE NIGERIANS DRINK ARE FARMED IN KENYA
https://www.export.gov/apex/article2?id=Kenya-Agricultural-Sector

Agriculture is the backbone of Kenya’s economy, due to its significance in contributing to economic growth. Farmers in Kenya are involved in both small and large-scale farming of crops and/or livestock. 88.4% of Kenya's exports to the EU were agricultural products making it one of the biggest imports from Africa.
Kenya is a leading producer of tea and coffee, as well as the third-leading exporter of fresh produce, such as cabbages, onions and mangoes. Small farms grow most of the corn and also produce potatoes, bananas, beans and peas.The agricultural products are diverse and include cash crops such as coffee, tea, sisal and sugar. Grains, cotton, tropical fruit and coconuts are also grown. Staple crops include maize, pulses, millet, bananas, sweet potatoes and potatoes.

They probably wait for us to export our world no #1 coffee, flowers and tea to Europe and then they import it back into Africa.

Ship making in Lagos

Hbuyosh:
You are superior in in just two aspects, and u know it. The size of your population and the GDP. You are dwarfed in so many other aspects by many other countries, like Kenya. And that is a fact we have showed here.

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Hehehehe! Kenya is trying but Nigeria don go far.

forgiveness:
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My final verdict on the strength of MNCs owned by Nigerians and Kenyans in every sectors which includes Oil and gas, Banking, Insurance, Retail, Hospitality, FCMG, Telecommunication, Technology, Engineering, etc is that Nigeria is ahead of Kenya in every sector of MNCs except Hospitality and.... .

First of all, let us start with Oil and gas.

OIL AND GAS

Kenya's best oil and gas company Kenolkobil, is the only MNCs in this sector with operations only in 11 African (majorly East Africa and South Africa) countries while Nigeria on the other hand has more MNCs in this sector with operations not only in Africa but Europe and America at large, giving them a global out look.

Oando Plc( West Africa, Toronto, USA, Joburg, South Africa and Nigeria),

Sahara group (Nigeria, U.K, Switzerland, U.A.E, Ghana, Cote D'Ivoire, Singapore),

Conoi plc,

Fort oil(Nigeria Ghana, London etc),

Erin petroleum Co (USA, China, Nigeria, Ghana and Gambia even Kenya),

Heyden( Nigeria, United Kingdom, Dubai, UAE, Cape Town, South Africa),

Obat Oil ( Europe and Africa)

NNPC
NLNG

TKO Nigeria won this contest



TELECOMMUNICATIONS

Safaricom is only a Kenyan based company while Glo mobile operations are in Nigeria, Ghana, Benin and Cote D'Ivoire.

Glo network also covers 170 countries in roaming services.

We still have Ntel and visafone

TKO Nigeria won again



BANKING


In Banking, Kenya KCB and Equity, Kenya's largest banks have operations in 7 & 6 countries in Eastern Africa respectively while Nigeria has many of its bank in many African countries and outside Africa. e.g

FirstBank is the biggest bank in Nigeria by total deposits and gross earnings and operates a network of over 750 business locations across Africa, the United Kingdom and representative offices in Abu Dhabi, Beijing, Johannesburg, South Africa, DR Congo, Ghana, Sierra Leon, Guinea, France and Senegal.

United Bank for Africa (UBA) Plc, is one of Africa's leading banking Groups with operations in 19 African countries and offices in three global financial centers: London, Paris and New York.

Zenith Bank maintains subsidiaries in the United Kingdom, United Arab Emirates, Ghana, Sierra Leone and The Gambia, South Africa and China.

Access Bank Group; Nigeria, Burundi, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Ghana, Rwanda, the Gambia, Sierra Leone, Zambia and the United Kingdom.[1] As of December 2015, Access Bank Group had assets in excess of US$13 billion.

GTBank plc has 231 branches, 17 Cash Centres, 18 e-branches, 35 GTExpress locations and more than 1165 ATMs in Nigeria. GTBank has expanded to Cote d'Ivoire, Gambia, Ghana, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Uganda, Kenya and Rwanda. These countries belong to the "Eco zone". It has also expanded to the United Kingdom. With the acquisition of a 70 per cent stake in Fina Bank GTBank expanded into the East African market as at December 2013. As a consequence, Fina Bank will now be renamed and rebranded as subsidiaries of GTB and.

These are just few among many.

Kenya banks have been overwhelmed by Nigerian banks

TKO Nigeria's banks won again.


INSURANCE

Britam group, à company offering insurance, asset management, banking and property investment has operations in 7 countries (Kenya, Uganda, South Sudan, Tanzania, Malawi, Rwanda and Mozambique) in Eastern and Southern Africa.

While.......
Industrial and General Insurance Company Plc is a leading provider of insurance and risk management services in West Africa. IGI is a large insurance services provider in Nigeria and through its subsidiaries, in Ghana, the Gambia, Rwanda and Uganda, London, UK and Washington, DC,USA, has a global company outlook than its Kenyan counterpart.

In addition, NICON Insurance with operations in Nigeria, Sao Tome and Principal, and London, UK.

MUTUAL is the flagship of insurance in Nigeria and runs a full-fledged insurance operation in Liberia and Republic of Niger

Continental Reinsurance has six client service centres in Nigeria, Cameroon, Cote d’Ivoire, Kenya, Tunisia and Botswana. From our Nigerian headquarters, we have grown a diversified portfolio in more than 44 countries, adding value wherever we go, and developing enduring partnerships premised on ‘Pan-African commitment made local’.


Another TKO, Nigeria won the insurance sector.



TECHNOLOGY

I don't know much about Kenya's Technology but looking at Nigeria's list of technology companies, it is intimidating. Nevertheless, until the Kenyans on this platform provides a more reputable ones than the ones Nigeria has, I will say it is walk over.


Interswitch is an Africa-focused integrated digital payments and commerce company that facilitates the electronic circulation of money as well as the exchange of value between individuals and organisations on a timely and consistent basis. It has operations in Nigeria, Uganda and Kenya.

MainOne” also known as “Main One Cable” or “Main One”) is a leading provider of innovative telecom services and network solutions for businesses in West Africa,and with operations in Nigeria, Ghana, South Africa, Mauritius and Portugal. TKO


TKO again. Nigeria won the technology contest.

To be continued....

If there is any our Kenya brothers doesn't agree let them point it out.

@Proudlykenyan how market. Do you still believe Kenya dominates in the banking sector?

More is coming to hit you hard tomorrow.

forgiveness:
Let me continue to compare both countries MNCs in every sector.

TRANSPORTATION

Aviation

Kenya is doing very well in this sector with Kenya airways as the major player.
Kenya Airways is one of Africa's largest airline company with operations in almost every African capital (44 destinations in Africa, 10 destinations in Asia and America 54 in total)

While Nigeria also have some major players in this sector

Arik air is the largest airline in Nigeria and it is privately owned by Nigerians. It flies to 15 destinations across Africa, Europe and America.


Med View airways is also a privately owned by Nigerians with operations in Europe, Africa and Asia. London, UK, Jebbah and

Slok air was initially established in Nigeria before it was relocated to Gambia. Its destinations are, Ghana, Sierra Leon, Guinea, Senegal, Cote D'Ivoire, Liberia, Mali and Cote D'Ivoire.


Kenya won it



Road transport

Nigeria has a lot of companies plying the west Africa corridors. ABC transport; Ghana, Togo, Nigeria and Benin

Cross Country transport limited; Ghana, Togo, Nigeria and Benin

Chisco Transport; Ghana, Togo, Benin and Nigeria

Young shall grow transport; Ghana, Togo, Benin, Mali, Burkina Faso, Cote D'Ivoire and Nigeria

Efex Executive; Togo, Ghana, Nigeria, Benin and Cote D'Ivoire

GUO Motors; Ghana, Benin, Nigeria, Togo, Senegal and Cote D'Ivoire etc.

Until I see Kenyans MNCs in this sector, it is a walk over

Nigeria won

Holistically speaking, Nigeria has edge over Kenya because both are developed in Nigeria.

Therefore, Nigeria won the Transportation sector.



RETAIL

In this sector, Kenya has two MNCs in this sector.

Nakumatt is the largest retailers from Kenya have operations in 6 (mostly East African) countries and
Tuskys which is one of the large supermarket chains in the Great Lakes Area. Kenya and Uganda to be specific.

While Nigeria has two types of shopping malls, the online shopping and the normal shopping.

JUMIA is a Nigerian online shopping site for a wide range of electronics, fashion, home appliances and kid’s items. As of 2015, Jumia has warehouses in ten other countries, including: Egypt, Morocco, Kenya, Cote d'Ivoire, Uganda, Ghana, Cameroon, United Kingdom, Tanzania and Angola.

Konga is also a Nigerian online shopping site. It has warehouses in Nigeria and Ghana.

Silverbird group has a retail stores in Nigeria, Ghana and Kenya.

Nigeria won this one too.


QSR


I don't know much about Kenyan Quick service restaurant and that will bring to conclusion that Nigeria is ahead.

Chicken Republic is a Nigerian quick service restaurant with operations in Nigeria and Ghana.


Nigeria won again.


To be continued.

From what I am seeing here Nigeria is on top.
I want our Kenyan brothers to do the remaining sectors. FCMG, Hospitality, Business, Construction/Engineering and whichever sector you feel is missing.

Let us settle the scores. Once and for all.

@kongobi how market? Dis is for you.

Jayceon:
Remember this guy??

The goal that shook the world

It's TSHABAAAALAAAAALA!!!!

stop posting pictures of ur bafana bafana here


after he scored the goal did he go ahead to win the match

Kenyanstar:
Am not surprised with your view as a Nigerian, since the usual mantra with Naija is solely blaming the white man for all their problems. Case in point is in 1960's when Nigeria got its independence from colonial rule, the white men left infrastructure, rule of law, institutions and working systems. A decade later the Nigeria and most countries in Africa are we knew were in shambles. Neo- colonialism took charge from post-colonialism, the Africans became more resource hungry than the whites while ruining the countries systems, living destroyed infrastructure and throwing the rule of law and order to the dustbins. What the colonialists built in 50yrs was destroyed in 10yrs, successive coups and tribalism are the order of the day while corruption and nepotism have been indoctrinated into the system.
Unless we as Africans stop blaming the Oyinbo man for all our failures either past or presnt we will never move forward but always finger point. Kenya as a society has accepted and embraced diversity in its society, a shift in the general population due to intermarriages beyond tribe and race has reset the Kenyan society to spur economic and social development. This is the reason why you find both white, indian and arab working in the Kenyan civil service, armed forces and private sector.
NIGERIANS PLEASE KNOW THAT OTHER COUNTRIES CAN LIVE TOGETHER AS ONE.

dont show me that multiculture rubbish..its nonesense..

i dont have time for foolishness...

PROVERBZ:
stop posting pictures of ur bafana bafana here


after he scored the goal did he go ahead to win the match

OUCH! THAT HURTS.

Henrydone:
Ship making in Lagos

You're still cooking facts You really want to make ships

The first photo is of Nigerians who had been trained in Korea.
http://businesskorea.co/english/news/industry/12867-transferring-hope-hyundai-heavy-industries-trains-90-nigerian-engineers-korea

The second photo is even more out of place

forgiveness:
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Hehehehe! Kenya is trying but Nigeria don go far.
From what I am seeing here Nigeria is on top.
I want our Kenyan brother to do the remaining sector. FCMG, Hospitality, Business, Construction/Engineering and whichever sector you feel is missing.
Let us settle the scores. Once and for all.

Muafrika2:
You're still cooking facts You really want to make ships

The first photo is of Nigerians who had been trained in Korea.
http://businesskorea.co/english/news/industry/12867-transferring-hope-hyundai-heavy-industries-trains-90-nigerian-engineers-korea

The second photo is even more out of place

Hehehehe! That tells you alot about how Nigerians wants to take the opportunities in the ship building industry in Lagos.

What do you think he will doing after training for building ships without a place to practice?

How about the source I gave you?

Well, you can wish to believe what you like but it can't change the fact that shipyard is in Nigeria.

Please, inform your government to patronize your brother from the west coast of Africa.

Muafrika2:
You're still cooking facts You really want to make ships

The first photo is of Nigerians who had been trained in Korea.
http://businesskorea.co/english/news/industry/12867-transferring-hope-hyundai-heavy-industries-trains-90-nigerian-engineers-korea

The second photo is even more out of place

mtweeew empty talk

Kenyanstar:
Hahahaha..... This is the most stupid statement in the entire thread!!! So the recent scandals over the aborted arms deal with South Africa, the arms embargo placed on you guys. POOR NIGERIANS
http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/11/16/with-the-us-embargo-in-place-nigeria-looks-to-russia-others-for-arms/
With the US Embargo in Place, Nigeria Looks to Russia, Others for Arms

The Federal Government has responded to the subsisting arms embargo imposed by the United States (US) by approaching countries of the Eastern bloc and Southern hemisphere to acquire the needed arms and ammunition for the ongoing counter-terrorism operations in parts of the country.The Air Force Chief, however, said that NAF is not resting on its oars to make the service more self-reliant and has, in line with his leadership vision, reactivated about 13 aircraft that were hitherto grounded for years due to lack of maintenance and questionable flying status.

Time to borrow some from nyovest
"This shit never gon change
This Niggas forever gon hate"

Can't you comprehend...that news is even a progress in this insurgence... or don't yu get it...

You keep finding looking when there are none...stop hating...

Innoson cars plant


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ukk42wLeVpl

forgiveness:
Hehehehe! That tells you alot about how Nigerians wants to take opportunity in the shipyard in Lagos.

What do thing he will doing after training for building ships without a place to practice?

How about the source I gave you?

Well, you can wish to believe what you like but it can't change the fact that shipyard is in Nigeria.

Please, inform your government to patronize your brother from the west coast of Africa.

Having shipyards is not a big deal. Kenya has countless ship yards

We've been building and exporting ferries from our yards for years.


http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/New-ferry-puts-Kenya-on-map-of-ship-building-nations/539546-2913768-u4l6usz/index.html

Innoson car plant

Muafrika2:
Having shipyards is not a big deal. Kenya has countless ship yards

We've been building and exporting ferries from our yards for years.


http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/New-ferry-puts-Kenya-on-map-of-ship-building-nations/539546-2913768-u4l6usz/index.html

You are right. Kenya has shipyards for building only ferries but Nigeria has shipyard for building SHIPS.

I think you can spot the difference now.

Innoson cars

More innoson cars

forgiveness:
You are right. Kenya has shipyards for building only ferries but Nigeria has shipyard for building SHIPS.

I think you can spot the difference now.

So far, only one navy ship boat has come from your yard

Our neighbours on the other hand depend on our shipyard for their ferries,

- First two photos, the most recent ferry built by Kenyan and exported to Uganda , Mv alberta

- Last photo: The Nigerian navy ship/boat


What's the difference? Gun powder?

Proforce cars plant all made in Nigeria

Proforce cars (the 1st and still only the armored vehicle made in Africa

Kenyan Mobius motors

If you've experienced a Kenyan wildlife viewing safari it was probably on one of these ..

Innoson motors doesn't manufacture any car; They just assemble car parts from china. And in that regard they are babies compared to many kenya vehicle assemblers.

I think in Sub-Saharan Africa - Kenya should be second to South Africa - in terms of vehicle assembling and production. Some biggest in Kenya include Foton, GM, and of course Thika base KVM.

For Innoson to claim to manufacture their own car - we have to find out the % of component manufactured in Nigeria and those shipped from China. If Nigeria had any tax authority worth their salt - they would be one verifying such claims.

From my little research - Innoson is motor vehicle assembler. But like anything Nigeria - except them to cheat/lie/connive/con.

Kenya's Mobius can be described as Kenya manufactured car - coz they only import the engine and the gear.

Muafrika2:
Kenyan Movies motors

If you've experienced a Kenyan wildlife viewing safari it was probably on one of these ..

Sorry dear it mobius not movies,afterall that car looks like forest wagon,driving that through the streets in nigeria u will be the television of the day i dear u to show me the smarter one,be factual ur kenya bloke are watching

Jayceon,please stop! You're spamming an already overloaded thread. I recently read the 7 habits of fools. Here they are IIRC:

-too easily angered by ish wiser ones ignore
-verbally reckless escalating situations with vituperation
-lack self control directly related to the above
-never admit personal responsibility since God,Dangote and/or Amadioha favours them
-believe anything; or rather what they want
-never prepare for the future
-don't plan and live strictly in the now

That's why this will be the longest thread on nairaland. Its why Naijjans don't understand our VERY VERY REAL ACHIEVEMENTS and never will. It explains why despite all the evidence to the contrary they still believe in CBN juju stats.
YOU MAKE US LAUGH! But you'll never know why.

obaaderemi:
OUCH! THAT HURTS.

lol two nigerian slowpokes are trying too hard to find anything to offend me,little do they know I'm not here to compete with them and I don't have time for them

I have the misfortune of being quoted by psychiatric hospital escapees,they keep following me even when I don't want anything to do with them

Kenya's KVM - has assembled (or in Nigeria baby talk produced) 60,000 units since inception.
KVM factory in Thika
https://www.gulfafricareview.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/vehicle-plant-ban.jpg
GM Nairobi
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/image/view/-/1072536/highRes/85312/-/maxw/600/-/qrie3sz/-/General-Motors.jpg
Toyota Assembly Kenya
https://fenesi.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/hino-trucks.jpg

Made in kenya (Mobius) - once again remember the locally manufactured component should exceed 50% for it to be called made in Nigeria. You can go to China and order them to make you a car with badge "Naira" but that won't be made in Nigeria.
https://kenyacarbazaar.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Mobius-Two.jpg

ProudlyKenyan:
Innoson motors doesn't manufacture any car; They just assemble car parts from china. And in that regard they are babies compared to many kenya vehicle assemblers.

I think in Sub-Saharan Africa - Kenya should be second to South Africa - in terms of vehicle assembling and production. Some biggest in Kenya include Foton, GM, and of course Thika base KVM.

For Innoson to claim to manufacture their own car - we have to find out the % of component manufactured in Nigeria and those shipped from China.

From my little research - Innoson is motor vehicle assembler. But like anything Nigeria - except them to cheat/lie/connive/con.

Kenya's Mobius can be described as Kenya manufactured car - coz they only import the engine and the gear.

Hahahahahahahaha joke of the century,this Kenyas guy is just amazing and amusing me with his stupidity,remain in ignorance

Oxtonguy:
Sorry dear it mobius not movies,afterall that car looks like forest wagon,driving that through the streets in nigeria u will be the television of the day i dear u to show me the smarter one,be factual ur kenya bloke are watching

It's built for the wild. You know we have a serious tourism sector