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Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by Corrinthians(m): 8:24pm On Dec 08, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:
Exactly! Religion should be separated from State. The country has no business with religious laws, considering that we are not a monoreligious people. As a Christian, I am fully aware that authority in Christiandom is ONLY from God through the Holy Spirit. We don't need government, scholars, pastors or jurists to assume the role- in fact, they can't. Government should face other non-religious aspect of our lives.

As for Islamic Courts, they can keep it at their states level if they wish, we don't need a replica at the federal level.
I dont understand why you people tow this line of argument- it is downright sickening.

Are you people saying Muslims are the omes promoting/sponsoring this bill? Or even if you say the sponsors are indeed Christians, the argument is is being used as a basis to bolster support for the Sharia bill is neither here nor there. Your argument suggests "Christians are devising means to promote Sharia bill"! Now mull that over for a second and tell me how that sounds.

The reason why you people bring in this line of arguments is simply because you have this preconceived notion only Muslims have radicals. It might interest you that some Christians on this forum supported the idea- are we then to assume they are also trying to promote sharia through the back door?

When you dissabuse yoir minds and rid it of all preconceptions When dealing with sensitive stuffs like this, it would go a long way to enrich the substance of your opinion.
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by Chemcrown: 8:43pm On Dec 08, 2016
What I even want to know is the content of the law... who will be the judges ... will there be a course in our universities now called christianic law (very absurd) ... if a christian is convicted 'justly' in sharia court, will his/her case transfered to christian court for leniency (very laughable) ... if I meet a fellow christian on my wife (u know what I mean), how will this case be judged - please chemcrown, forgive and forget just as has Christ... or tit for tat or dead by hanging etc ... where will there contents of the law come from - the Bible (new testament - love your neighbour as yourselve and love your GOD with the whole of your heart or old testament - where laws could be given because of the hardness of people's heart) or are 'we' going to review sharia laws so that 'our' laws will stand CONTRARY to that of sharia? - if a man steal a goat and sharia law stipulates cutting of arms, will Christian law retrieve the man a set him free to counter the judgment, oh! the man will be put in jail...
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by CioAngels(f): 8:45pm On Dec 08, 2016
Our lawmakers just go to assembly to sleep, they don't know what is happenning their. They don't understand anything, they will fast track give easy way to sharia bill, foolish people with No wisdom. They are yes master boiboi otherwise what has christian bill got to do with dying masses Nigeria out of hunger?
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by Chemcrown: 8:49pm On Dec 08, 2016
Really busy ni ooo.
note: Christianity is never in contest with other religions, it is a standard, a way of life.
Tonye, thumb up
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by TonyeBarcanista(op): 8:52pm On Dec 08, 2016
vladimiros:
If you went to school until University level and call yourself a Christian and support the bill.pls kindly return your degree.

No Christian nation has a religious court. Christianity never even called for one, but Nigerian Christianity wants one

Nigeria, a country so close to God it made us foolish..

#No to the bill

TonyeBarcanista let's create a website or start a change.org petition.
The campaign should be NO TO RELIGIOUS COURTS....
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by shotster50(m): 9:05pm On Dec 08, 2016
The overpaid peppersouping and big stouting urchins parading as lawmakers only ever sit down to pass irrelevant laws.... Nigeria is not a wholly Christian nor Muslim country ... Efforts should be made to clean up our judiciary system and not create more avenues for red tape bureaucracy and more ways to waste public funds.
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by 2badForReal: 9:07pm On Dec 08, 2016
All I know is that, full implementation of sharia law across the country will fastrack the end of Nigeria as a nation
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by Johnnyessence(m): 9:12pm On Dec 08, 2016
Chemcrown:
What I even want to know is the content of the law... who will be the judges ... will there be a course in our universities now called christianic law (very absurd) ... if a christian is convicted 'justly' in sharia court, will his/her case transfered to christian court for leniency (very laughable) ... if I meet a fellow christian on my wife (u know what I mean), how will this case be judged - please chemcrown, forgive and forget just as has Christ... or tit for tat or dead by hanging etc ... where will there contents of the law come from - the Bible (new testament - love your neighbour as yourselve and love your GOD with the whole of your heart or old testament - where laws could be given because of the hardness of people's heart) or are 'we' going to review sharia laws so that 'our' laws will stand CONTRARY to that of sharia? - if a man steal a goat and sharia law stipulates cutting of arms, will Christian law retrieve the man a set him free to counter the judgment, oh! the man will be put in jail...
when the court is been establish u will know the judge. The bill has already passed the second reading. So pls be expecting soon when it will be passed.
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by engineerboat(m): 9:33pm On Dec 08, 2016
Chemcrown:
What I even want to know is the content of the law... who will be the judges ... will there be a course in our universities now called christianic law (very absurd) ... if a christian is convicted 'justly' in sharia court, will his/her case transfered to christian court for leniency (very laughable) ... if I meet a fellow christian on my wife (u know what I mean), how will this case be judged - please chemcrown, forgive and forget just as has Christ... or tit for tat or dead by hanging etc ... where will there contents of the law come from - the Bible (new testament - love your neighbour as yourselve and love your GOD with the whole of your heart or old testament - where laws could be given because of the hardness of people's heart) or are 'we' going to review sharia laws so that 'our' laws will stand CONTRARY to that of sharia? - if a man steal a goat and sharia law stipulates cutting of arms, will Christian law retrieve the man a set him free to counter the judgment, oh! the man will be put in jail...
Will theu ever listen.


Chriatian court, christian court. What will be their guiding law of principle. I gues they will use another version of the BIBLE.


Its a NO NO NO NO to Christian Court.
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by engineerboat(m): 9:35pm On Dec 08, 2016
Johnnyessence:
when the court is been establish u will know the judge. The bill has already passed the second reading. So pls be expecting soon when it will be passed.
Passing second reading does not mean it will be passed into law. It will still go to committeee.


So it will be thrown out as usual
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by tit(f): 10:18pm On Dec 08, 2016
ollah1:
What are your reasons for supporting the bill? Kindly state them
What is good for we moslims is good for you chrostoans
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by tit(f): 10:19pm On Dec 08, 2016
This my china phone sef
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by Nobody: 10:26pm On Dec 08, 2016
I think it was proposed to systematically check the passing of the Sharia Bill. If Sharia is passed that also must be passed. So it is only there to check the other bill being proposed.
Every Christian knows we don't need itgrin
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by VajanahDischaj(f): 10:44pm On Dec 08, 2016
I been wan abuse the op, nut his ppoints are far better than what I thought.

every bill passsed in the Senate is for the interest of the Senate members only. all theu do is politics. na thunder go burn their head.
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by Pharaoh9(m): 10:45pm On Dec 08, 2016
stinechykee:
You have time of these Muslims that disguise themselves as Christians typing and posting rubbish here.They were the one that supported Buhari and now he want to islamize we Christians and also those hypocrites didn't see anything wrong wen Emirs and Imams were busy abducting and converting our young girls and those hypocrite here didn't see anything wrong in wat you are telling them
You are ignorant

Tell me how many so called men of God abi na Dog have condemned islamists attacking and killing Christians, kidnapping young girls etc? That's how the court will work.
Northern muslims can use money to corrupt your judges, I'm an atheist, what we should be calling is total ban of all religious activities from our government just as the Chinese or they divided the country like India & Pakistan,

In future Muslims will start doing to non Muslims just as they do them in other Muslim country if time is not taken
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by Nobody: 11:35pm On Dec 08, 2016
Something to ponder on Christians new law before National Assembly.

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Now that the bill to establish CHRISTIAN COURTS has passed second reading at the House of Reps, I wonder what penal law the courts when it come into existence is going to rely upon as a source of its jurisdiction... Is it the Bible? If yes then Christians will be in trouble going by the following provisions in the bible :
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1. Kill People Who Don’t Listen to Priests
"Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
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2. Kill Witches
"You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
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3. Kill Homosexuals
“If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
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4. Kill Fortunetellers
"A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
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5.Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death.
(Exodus 21:15 NAB)
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6.Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
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7.Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
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8. Death for Fornication
"A priest’s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
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9. Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
"Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
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10.Kill False Prophets
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, “You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord.” When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.
(Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
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11. Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

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Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by Chemcrown: 11:40pm On Dec 08, 2016
Johnnyessence:
when the court is been establish u will know the judge. The bill has already passed the second reading. So pls be expecting soon when it will be passed.
NO, NO, NO, don't tell me that. Why do I have to know after its establishment. Too wrong to know my fate after the deed is done.
Please, another question - I believe traditional religion is still recognized in the country, will you support it if it calls for it own court?
I repeat: Christianity is NOT contending for supremacy. Hallelujah.
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by manmidtexy(m): 12:06am On Dec 09, 2016
I love your writeups. Would love to meet and know you someday. You spit out the TRUTH


TonyeBarcanista:
I read the proposed bill sponsored by Rep Gyang Dung (PDP-Plateau) and eight others seeking to alter sections 6, 84, 185, 240, 246, 247, 288, 289, 292 and 318 of the principal Act, in order to established an Ecclesiastical court that will abjudicate on issues that bothers on "Christian law".

I shook my head while reading the news because I found it laughable that our legislators will abandon important subjects that bothers on the economy, education, political and environmental sectors, but instead they sat down to discuss an irrelevant bill that is needless, useless and has no single impact on the lives of the average Nigeria citizen.

Do we even need a "Christian court"? For what purpose? Is there any central Christian law in the first instance? Is this a ploy to expedite the passage of the Sharia Court of Appeal bill that is before the House? What exactly is the motive of the promoters and the House? All these questions popped out of my recession-hit head while I was reading the report. These I shall try my best to address in this piece.



1. Do Christians Need Ecclesiastical Court?
If we take a look at the Bible carefully in the book of I Corinthians 6:1-10, Apostle Paul warned believers never to take their brothers to law court(irrespective of nomenclature) to settle religious disputes.The Lord Jesus Christ in his teaching laid out how disputes should be settled among believers of the Christian faith in Matthew 18:15-17, a procedure that is very simple and direct.

According to Christ, if a brother offends another, the offended brother should approach the one that offended him to settle the disputes as brothers (Matthew 18:15), if he refuses to listen, the offended brother should approach leadership of the Church to intervene (Matthew 18:16), and if he refuses to listen to the Church leadership for peaceful resolution, the brother that was offended should let go for God to take control (Matthew 18:17). As simple as that.

In the book of 1 Corinthians 16, Apostle Paul was direct in condemnation of the Corinthian church after he heard that they were suing each other to court. He admonished them to withdraw the cases against brethren that were pending before the court, but instead admonished them to settle among themselves or by involving the elders.

In Christian religion, the Chief Justice is God Almighty, He, through the Holy Spirit directs brethren and elders in handling disputes within the body of Christ. He doesn't give such power to any institution outside the Christian faith, and does not in anyway delegate his power to any secular judicial officer. The so called Ecclesiastical Court is an aberration in Christianity, and is not needed nor wanted in the body of Christ.


2. Is There Any Central Christian Law In The First Instance?
Let us for once consider this question, is there a central Christian law? From all practice, the Christian religion has NO LAW, the Bible however states precepts and commandments that should be obeyed by practicing Christians but they are never considered a law. Unlike precepts and commandments that doesn't prescribe earthly punishment for defaulters, a law prescribe punishment for defaulters.

For instance, the Christian doctrine is against idolatry, but any Christian that engages in the act will not be punished by anybody according to any law. He may be disciplined by his local church in order to restore him to the faith but if he choose to continue, his case will be handed to God while the brethren pray for him to repent.

Besides, even the Christian commandment and precepts has over the years been subjected to different interpretation depending on various assemblies and congregations. Some sect don't believe in the Holy Trinity, while others does; some set see tithing as fraud, some see it as command; to some sect, the Catholics and all those that use images to aid worship are idolaters and not Christians. To some, divorce is a NO, while some others not only see divorce as Biblical but welcomes remarriage. Some believe in Christmas and Easter, while others see it as fraudulent practice of pagans. Need I say more? .

What is central in Christianity is that God will be the judge on the last day, HE will judge all men, Christians and non Christians according to their works, and the Saints will judge the Angels.


3. Status of Christian Association of Nigeria In The Christiandom:
Make no mistake, CAN is not a central body of Christians in Nigeria, neither does it posses a central authority. CAN is only an association of those Christian religious leaders that are part of the association. CAN is not an authority in Christiandom in Nigeria, they are not the Holy Spirit, they CANNOT prescribe any Christian law. In fact, not all churches are part of CAN as an association, not all Christians recognises CAN. To be explicit, Christianity can never be regulated by any government, body, association or group or any person/persons, and should never be. Matters that are Christian in nature must be addressed according to the Christian precept (NOT LAWS), those that are civil in nature could be taken to the civil courts, while those that are criminal in nature be subjected according to the relevant laws in Nigeria.

4. A Ploy To Expedite The Passage Of The Sharia Court Of Appeal Bill?
We may recall that there is a bill before the House of Representative that was sponsored by Honourable Abdulahi Salame representing Gwadabawa/Illela federal constituency, Sokoto State, which seeks to altar Sections 262 and 277 of the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, 1999, in order to increase the jurisdiction of the Sharia Court of Appeal of the Federal Capital Territory and Sharia Court of Appeal of a State by including Criminal Matters and Hudud and Qisas and for "other related Matters”. This pro-sharia bill was condemned by patriotic Nigerians of diverse faith and creed.

With the coming of the proposed Christian court bill, and if passed, it is safe that it would easily be argued by proponent of the Islamic bill that it is also justifiable for the Islamic bill to be passed by the parliament. Is that the original idea behind this so-called Christian court bill?

Without prejudice to any faith, Nigeria as a country should/must have no business with religious laws. We are secular, and should be. Our customary laws is enough to take care of matters relating to customs and traditions, while civil and criminal laws takes care of civil and criminal matters respectively. Religion is voluntary of those that practice it, the so-called Sharia laws that exist at present across states are competing with sections of our constitution, we wouldn't want more complications through Sharia or Ecclesiastical Court of Appeal at the federal level. If this bill was proposed to appease Christians so as to allow easy passge of Rep Abdulahi Salama Sharia bill, then it is dead on arrival. Nigerians must act and resist both confusionist bills.

I condemned the Sharia bill, I still strongly condemn this proposed Ecclesiastical court bill because the bill serves the interest of nobody except those few members of the elite that will be appointed to chair or be part of such court. It should be emphasised that Christianity is not in competition with Islam or any religion, neither is Christianity the opposite of Islam.

I enjoin members of the National Assembly to look at laws that will positively affect the lives of Nigerians irrespective of religious creed, gender, status or tribe instead of wasting taxpayers monies by sitting in their chambers to discuss irrelevant and confusionist bills like the Sharia and Ecclesiastical courts bills. If our "Honourables" are bored, they should go on indefinite recess and spare the citizens of more troubles. Enough is Enough for the Wise.





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Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by BetaThings: 7:18am On Dec 09, 2016
Goke7:
The Muslims got us here,
How? Are you saying the sponsors of the bill Muslims?
Are they not old enough to make up their minds

Goke7:
only God can fight our battle now.
So you have been sidelining God before now?

Goke7:
Even if the Christians in the legislature shout the bill down, the muslims will make sure it sail thru and remember dem get the number o!
The level of ignorance on Nairaland is baffling
Only in your dreamland can this happen

Can the sponsor not step it down
When you guys talk authoritatively out of ignorance on sensitive matters, one wonders why there is one man one for both the enlightened and the une...
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by MeAboki(m): 8:04am On Dec 09, 2016
drnoel:
Check d proponents of that Christian Bill they are mostly all Muslims. Then ask urself why would a muslim be looking to establish a Christian bill?
Chai! Chai!
Oboy, so the sponsor of the proposed bill Rep Gyang Dung of the PDP from Plateau State is also Muslim?

Abeg muke una give us (Muslims) a rest - see how you are twisting this to make it as if Muslims caused it - as usual blaming others for your own follies.

It should be obvious to anyone that this bill was sponsored by Christians out hate and rivalry and also to spite Muslims for having Sharia, in continuum of their general agenda to checkmate Islam and Muslims at any and every opportunity; unfortunately, this time the proponents failed to think through and look beyond their hatred by properly taking time to consider the implications of what they are asking for before rushing to submit their proposal.

It serves them right, Muslims will not oppose them but support them; let them reap what they are sowing - they deserve it.
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by IYANGBALI: 8:20am On Dec 09, 2016
It won't work. Dead on arrival
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by drnoel: 8:43am On Dec 09, 2016
MeAboki:
Chai! Chai!
Oboy, so the sponsor of the proposed bill Rep Gyang Dung of the PDP from Plateau State is also Muslim?

Abeg muke una give us (Muslims) a rest - see how you are twisting this to make it as if Muslims caused it - as usual blaming others for your own follies.

It should be obvious to anyone that this bill was sponsored by Christians out hate and rivalry and also to spite Muslims for having Sharia, in continuum of their general agenda to checkmate Islam and Muslims at any and every opportunity; unfortunately, this time the proponents failed to think through and look beyond their hatred by properly taking time to consider the implications of what they are asking for before rushing to submit their proposal.

It serves them right, Muslims will not oppose them but support them; let them reap what they are sowing - they deserve it.
His name alone sounds muslim. Ur intetest shouldn't be what those fools in the house will reap but the repacurtions of their actions on d masses.
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by chiteny(m): 9:10am On Dec 09, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:
I read the proposed bill sponsored by Rep Gyang Dung (PDP-Plateau) and eight others seeking to alter sections 6, 84, 185, 240, 246, 247, 288, 289, 292 and 318 of the principal Act, in order to established an Ecclesiastical court that will abjudicate on issues that bothers on "Christian law".

I shook my head while reading the news because I found it laughable that our legislators will abandon important subjects that bothers on the economy, education, political and environmental sectors, but instead they sat down to discuss an irrelevant bill that is needless, useless and has no single impact on the lives of the average Nigeria citizen.

Do we even need a "Christian court"? For what purpose? Is there any central Christian law in the first instance? Is this a ploy to expedite the passage of the Sharia Court of Appeal bill that is before the House? What exactly is the motive of the promoters and the House? All these questions popped out of my recession-hit head while I was reading the report. These I shall try my best to address in this piece.



1. Do Christians Need Ecclesiastical Court?
If we take a look at the Bible carefully in the book of I Corinthians 6:1-10, Apostle Paul warned believers never to take their brothers to law court(irrespective of nomenclature) to settle religious disputes.The Lord Jesus Christ in his teaching laid out how disputes should be settled among believers of the Christian faith in Matthew 18:15-17, a procedure that is very simple and direct.

According to Christ, if a brother offends another, the offended brother should approach the one that offended him to settle the disputes as brothers (Matthew 18:15), if he refuses to listen, the offended brother should approach leadership of the Church to intervene (Matthew 18:16), and if he refuses to listen to the Church leadership for peaceful resolution, the brother that was offended should let go for God to take control (Matthew 18:17). As simple as that.

In the book of 1 Corinthians 16, Apostle Paul was direct in condemnation of the Corinthian church after he heard that they were suing each other to court. He admonished them to withdraw the cases against brethren that were pending before the court, but instead admonished them to settle among themselves or by involving the elders.

In Christian religion, the Chief Justice is God Almighty, He, through the Holy Spirit directs brethren and elders in handling disputes within the body of Christ. He doesn't give such power to any institution outside the Christian faith, and does not in anyway delegate his power to any secular judicial officer. The so called Ecclesiastical Court is an aberration in Christianity, and is not needed nor wanted in the body of Christ.


2. Is There Any Central Christian Law In The First Instance?
Let us for once consider this question, is there a central Christian law? From all practice, the Christian religion has NO LAW, the Bible however states precepts and commandments that should be obeyed by practicing Christians but they are never considered a law. Unlike precepts and commandments that doesn't prescribe earthly punishment for defaulters, a law prescribe punishment for defaulters.

For instance, the Christian doctrine is against idolatry, but any Christian that engages in the act will not be punished by anybody according to any law. He may be disciplined by his local church in order to restore him to the faith but if he choose to continue, his case will be handed to God while the brethren pray for him to repent.

Besides, even the Christian commandment and precepts has over the years been subjected to different interpretation depending on various assemblies and congregations. Some sect don't believe in the Holy Trinity, while others does; some set see tithing as fraud, some see it as command; to some sect, the Catholics and all those that use images to aid worship are idolaters and not Christians. To some, divorce is a NO, while some others not only see divorce as Biblical but welcomes remarriage. Some believe in Christmas and Easter, while others see it as fraudulent practice of pagans. Need I say more? .

What is central in Christianity is that God will be the judge on the last day, HE will judge all men, Christians and non Christians according to their works, and the Saints will judge the Angels.


3. Status of Christian Association of Nigeria In The Christiandom:
Make no mistake, CAN is not a central body of Christians in Nigeria, neither does it posses a central authority. CAN is only an association of those Christian religious leaders that are part of the association. CAN is not an authority in Christiandom in Nigeria, they are not the Holy Spirit, they CANNOT prescribe any Christian law. In fact, not all churches are part of CAN as an association, not all Christians recognises CAN. To be explicit, Christianity can never be regulated by any government, body, association or group or any person/persons, and should never be. Matters that are Christian in nature must be addressed according to the Christian precept (NOT LAWS), those that are civil in nature could be taken to the civil courts, while those that are criminal in nature be subjected according to the relevant laws in Nigeria.

4. A Ploy To Expedite The Passage Of The Sharia Court Of Appeal Bill?
We may recall that there is a bill before the House of Representative that was sponsored by Honourable Abdulahi Salame representing Gwadabawa/Illela federal constituency, Sokoto State, which seeks to altar Sections 262 and 277 of the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, 1999, in order to increase the jurisdiction of the Sharia Court of Appeal of the Federal Capital Territory and Sharia Court of Appeal of a State by including Criminal Matters and Hudud and Qisas and for "other related Matters”. This pro-sharia bill was condemned by patriotic Nigerians of diverse faith and creed.

With the coming of the proposed Christian court bill, and if passed, it is safe that it would easily be argued by proponent of the Islamic bill that it is also justifiable for the Islamic bill to be passed by the parliament. Is that the original idea behind this so-called Christian court bill?

Without prejudice to any faith, Nigeria as a country should/must have no business with religious laws. We are secular, and should be. Our customary laws is enough to take care of matters relating to customs and traditions, while civil and criminal laws takes care of civil and criminal matters respectively. Religion is voluntary of those that practice it, the so-called Sharia laws that exist at present across states are competing with sections of our constitution, we wouldn't want more complications through Sharia or Ecclesiastical Court of Appeal at the federal level. If this bill was proposed to appease Christians so as to allow easy passge of Rep Abdulahi Salama Sharia bill, then it is dead on arrival. Nigerians must act and resist both confusionist bills.

I condemned the Sharia bill, I still strongly condemn this proposed Ecclesiastical court bill because the bill serves the interest of nobody except those few members of the elite that will be appointed to chair or be part of such court. It should be emphasised that Christianity is not in competition with Islam or any religion, neither is Christianity the opposite of Islam.

I enjoin members of the National Assembly to look at laws that will positively affect the lives of Nigerians irrespective of religious creed, gender, status or tribe instead of wasting taxpayers monies by sitting in their chambers to discuss irrelevant and confusionist bills like the Sharia and Ecclesiastical courts bills. If our "Honourables" are bored, they should go on indefinite recess and spare the citizens of more troubles. Enough is Enough for the Wise.





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IN AS MUCH AS I MAY AGREE WITH YOUR POSITION WHERE WERE YOU WHEN SHARIA LAW WAS DEBATED AND PUT IN OUR CONSTITUTION?

NOW THAT IT IS IN OUR CONSTITUTION HAVE YOU EVER SPOKEN FOR OR AGAINST IT?

BE JUST IN YOUR SUBMISSION.

NIGERIA IS HIGHLY DIVIDED ALONG RELIGIOUS LINES AND THIS CAN BE SEEN BYTHE WAY WE MAKE OUR LAWS.
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by bonna4u(m): 9:50am On Dec 09, 2016
chiteny:
IN AS MUCH AS I MAY AGREE WITH YOUR POSITION WHERE WERE YOU WHEN SHARIA LAW WAS DEBATED AND PUT IN OUR CONSTITUTION?

NOW THAT IT IS IN OUR CONSTITUTION HAVE YOU EVER SPOKEN FOR OR AGAINST IT?

BE JUST IN YOUR SUBMISSION.

NIGERIA IS HIGHLY DIVIDED ALONG RELIGIOUS LINES AND THIS CAN BE SEEN BYTHE WAY WE MAKE OUR LAWS.
If this bill scales through, iron worshippers must have their sango/amadioha 'thunder courts'.
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by udoh2k: 11:33am On Dec 09, 2016
No need for religious court. Family and moral matters shd be settled by elders and leaders in the family, church or mosques the people belong. Civil and criminal matters shd be taking to conventional courts. If we say one Nigeria, we shd submit to one judicial system. A thief is a thief whether Christian or Islam.
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by MeAboki(m): 11:59am On Dec 09, 2016
drnoel:
His name alone sounds muslim. Ur intetest shouldn't be what those fools in the house will reap but the repacurtions of their actions on d masses.
So you based your whole judgement, in the absence of any other fact, solely on the sound of his name - and I thought you were intelligent, Mtcheww!
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by drnoel: 12:01pm On Dec 09, 2016
MeAboki:
So you based your whole judgement, in the absence of any other fact, solely on the sound of his name - and I thought you were intelligent, Mtcheww!
No am a dunce just like u. No vex but if he was Christian, he will have a Christian name. Thats plain fact so whats this ignorance u are playing?
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by MeAboki(m): 12:14pm On Dec 09, 2016
drnoel:
No am a dunce just like u. No vex but if he was Christian, he will have a Christian name. Thats plain fact so whats this ignorance u are playing?
And you are still out there insisting on repeating your stupidity - go figure.
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by drnoel: 12:25pm On Dec 09, 2016
MeAboki:
And you are still out there insisting on repeating your stupidity - go figure.
....and here comes the insults. Really unnecessary if u ask me. If u have info on subject pls share without insults so people will learn. If u don't have info then STFU.
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by MeAboki(m): 12:43pm On Dec 09, 2016
drnoel:
....and here comes the insults. Really unnecessary if u ask me. If u have info on subject pls share without insults so people will learn. If u don't have info then STFU.
Speaking of insults:"No am a dunce just like u"; your words, not mine - is apparently to you not an insult.
I am sorry, I truly do not have time to cure you of your stupidity, in believing that anyone bearing a Muslim name must automatically be a Muslim - besides, since when does a name like Gyang Dung sound Muslim?
Pls go and bury your head somewhere.
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by drnoel: 12:54pm On Dec 09, 2016
MeAboki:
Speaking of insults:"No am a dunce just like u"; your words, not mine - is apparently to you not an insult.
I am sorry, I truly do not have time to cure you of your stupidity, in believing that anyone bearing a Muslim name must automatically be a Muslim - besides, since when does a name like Gyang Dung sound Muslim?
Pls go and bury your head somewhere.
I thought about what to write u but came out blank. That quote of mine u quote was not meant to be an insult cos I included myself in it too. It was my attempt to lighten the mood. The insult from my part was the STFU. Whatever. Just know not everyone on nairaland unlike u is ready to insult people and later scream wolf after being dished back wat they dished.
Cheers!
Re: Why Nigerians Should Resist The Proposed Christian "Ecclesiastical" Court Bill by frank4t(m): 1:01pm On Dec 09, 2016
its a decoy to enable them pass the sharia bill
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