donjazet:


Is it Yoruba?

Yeah.. An adulterated version of Were..ion have Yoruba keypad!

Debroslink:


And some thinks by shooting screamers from 30 yards makes one productive.

Show us Lampard's Goals and assists in all football match he's played in his career.

The bolded seems a better sample for productivity comparison index.

AdisaOwala:
Chai - Ibime dey Vex for Iniesta oh..

This is the Iniesta myth.

First they said he does not play the same position as Lampard.

Then they agreed they play the same position but have different characteristics (ie Iniesta is unproductive)

When you ask them why he is so unproductive, they claim its because he is a God of possession football and is focused on recycling possession not creating goals.

I know the top Kings of possession footie are busy making 80-100 passes per game to dominate the midfield. Lets see what Iniesta is doing in his possession recycling job, you will see he is making only 60 passes per game.

Below is the possession God Xavi. See how he is averaging 90-110 passes per game in Laliga in his prime, even reaching 120 passes per game in UCL.

And below that is possession fraud Iniesta, averaging 60+ passes per game in La Liga.

If he is utterly unproductive going forward, and is not one of the top possession hoggers, you tell me Adisa, what makes him better than Santi Cazorla?

Ibime:


Go and bring Iniestas boss Dani Alves to come and compare assists with Lampard, let Lampard whip his a*s.

Do you have anything to show me that Iniesta is in the top 20 possession hoggers since he is so unproductive and uncreative?

I never discussed possession nonsense with you. My point is Iniesta's masterclass influence in key games in finals.

Something that cannot be said of a so called legend who cannot boast of just 1 assist in European finals.

Debroslink:


I never discussed possession nonsense with you. My point is Iniesta's masterclass influence in key games in finals.

Something that cannot be said of a so called legend who cannot boast of just 1 assist in European finals.

Use career output as benchmark bro, who assist for final don epp?

donjazet:


I haff died someone once used this word on me and I thought it actually meant boss or something related

Hahahaha. Now you know better.

elrony:


Use career output as benchmark bro, who assist for final don epp?

You think by shooting from 30 yards out makes you a Master? Lampard was a passenger in almost all his European finals. Not even a single assist to bail his team out.

Debroslink:


Something that cannot be said of a so called legend who cannot boast of just 1 assist in European finals.

This is lame. A lampard that scored in a CL final? Which one should be rated above the other?.. an assist that may end up being wasted or puting the ball at the back of the net?

Debroslink:


You think by shooting from 30 yards out makes you a Master? Lampard was a passenger in almost all his European finals. Not even a single assist to bail his team out.

Lampard's equalizer against manure in 2007/2008 Cl final was the reason why the ball ended up in a penalty shoot out. So how was he a passenger who never bailed his team?

Mr man, you need to go for check up.. and stop chatting nonsense!!

Debroslink:


You think by shooting from 30 yards out makes you a Master? Lampard was a passenger in almost all his European finals. Not even a single assist to bail his team out.

Buh he scored to bail his team and drag them to PK shootouts, what's the fuss?

Goal >>>>>>Assist

Emaprince:
Lampard's equalizer against manure in 2007/2008 Cl final was the reason why the ball ended up in a penalty shoot out. So how was he a passenger who never bailed his team?

Mr man, you need to go for check up.. and stop chatting nonsense!!

Ibime:


And some think he is best AM of all time.

We asked why he is so unproductive as an AM, they told us he is busy recycling possession.

I dare anyone to show me stats putting Iniesta in the top 20 possession hoggers.

There are two big frauds in Barca. One is being exposed at Man City as we speak. Iniesta will never have that chance to be exposed but no one can show me that he does anything better than Santi Cazorla.

Pls stop if you're joking. Iniesta is no fraud. Mention one player that played better than him in his position when he was injury free.

elrony:


Use career output as benchmark bro, who assist for final don epp?

See mumu talk

Iniesta is a Visionless.

Guardiola is a Fraud.

Pique hides behind Barca attacking football, he'll be exposed else where.

Bravo is a scam.

Busquet is shit.

Alves can defend to save his life.

Neymar is A poor mans Hazard.

Alba is not a Top 10 LB, he is a defensive Walcot.

Messi is a dwarf who cant perform without Xavi & Iniesta, his shitty performance at Argie is evidence.

I'm sure i'll soon read something here about Puyol & Xavi.

Na Who else remain?

jstbeinhonest:



See mumu talk

Iniesta is a Visionless.

Guardiola is a Fraud.

Pique hides behind Barca attacking football, he'll be exposed else where.

Bravo is a scam.

Busquet is shit.

Alves can defend to save his life.

Neymar is A poor mans Hazard.

Alba is not a Top 10 LB, he is a defensive Walcot.

Messi is a dwarf who cant perform without Xavi & Iniesta, his shitty performance at Argie is evidence.

I'm sure i'll soon read something here about Puyol & Xavi.

Na Who else remain?

Who be this one ?

Have you gone mad?

Nihilist:


Timbros I like you. I don't like the way you are talking like a neophyte.

You clearly don't understand my point. Twisting my example to try and show what happens when Costa does not score is completely ignorant of the inherent point.

Nobody argues that goals are not important. Afterall Lukaku was the 4th highest scorer last season. The point here is that regardless of the goals scored by a striker, the utility of his goals are only apparent when his team manage to keep out more than he scores.

That's why I gave the example of Kane who outscored Vardy and Aguero who tied Vardy for goals, yet Leicester won the league.

Just this weekend, Lukaku scored a brace, but his team conceded 3 to lose 3-2. How useful were his goals then? A fool will say that Lukaku is rubbish because his goals did not translate to a win.

Lukaku scored 18 league goals last season. Costa scored 12. Yet Chelsea finished above Everton.

An idiot will say Lukaku did not improve Everton last season, but only THREE players scored more in the league last season, and yet TEN teams finished ahead of Everton.

Saying that Lukaku's improvement upfront is merely a personal improvement is a very stupid thing to say, because it implies that a Striker who contributed a total of 24 league goals last season, and scored more goals than over 400 registered players in thr league, should have been playing in goal.

The main debate here is Lukaku vs Costa.

Has Costa improved Chelsea since he signed? Resounding yes! Costa's goals in his first season fired us to our first league in 5 years. Costa's goals is currently keeping us in first position.

Has Lukaku improved Everton? Capital NO! Since Lukaku came, Everton have gone from at least top 8 team to bottom half team. He may have been their highest goal scorer since he arrived (personal improvement), but the team have not improved one bit since he signed.

Has Lukaku's output being better than Costa's since Costa came to England? NO!

Who is more efficient in front of goal since Lukaku became a professional in 2009? COSTA!

If Lukaku and Costa find themselves in the same team RIGHT NOW, Lukaku will take a permanent position in that team’s bench with better seat belt to go with it. That's how superior Costa is to Lukaku.

elrony:

Who be this one ?

Have you gone mad?

You wey sane dey claim sey Goal Assists in finals are useless all cos you want to win an argument. You sef read your post again and talk true if e make sense.

jstbeinhonest:



You wey sane dey claim sey Goal Assists in finals are useless all cos you want to win an argument. You sef read your post again and talk true if e make sense.

I hope say you dey alright..?

I was making a case of not using only an Assist in a European final as yardstick for comparison, rather use career output.


Shey you now understand?

Xavi has assisted 6 of Spain & Barcas 17 goals in finals and did not make this much noise.

If your team scores 17 goals, as an AM, how many are you supposed to be involved in?

Iniesta has been involved in 4 goals, we can't hear word again.

Other guys like David Silva, Pedro, Fabregas who have multiple goals/assists too.

Ibime:
Xavi has assisted 6 of Spain & Barcas 17 goals in finals and did not make this much noise.

If your team scores 17 goals, as an AM, how many are you supposed to be involved in?

Iniesta has been involved in 4 goals, we can't hear word again.

Other guys like David Silva, Pedro, Fabregas who have multiple goals/assists too.

World cup 2010 final MOTM, Euro 2012 MOTM CL final 2015 MOTM

MOTM at the world cup, Euro cup and CL final. This is the player fat Ibime is calling unproductive because he doesnt score 7 goals in league games vs Wolves

raumdeuter:


World cup 2010 final MOTM, Euro 2012 MOTM CL final 2015 MOTM

MOTM at the world cup, Euro cup and CL final. This is the player fat Ibime is calling unproductive because he doesnt score 7 goals in league games vs Wolves

Lampard 29 European goals vs Iniesta 11.

The unproductivity is in every arena, not just Wolves.

MOTM awards are chosen by sponsors or one or two men. The only legit one is WC2010 for the injury time goal.

You don't believe award that is voted on by 200+ men, but all of a sudden you believe awards picked by one man?

Please show us how Iniesta is in the top 20 possession stats that you used to explain his dire productivity and creativity.

Lampard is truly very creative, please how many assists did he have for England?

Debroslink:


I never discussed possession nonsense with you. My point is Iniesta's masterclass influence in key games in finals.

Something that cannot be said of a so called legend who cannot boast of just 1 assist in European finals.

Is this one talk? Anybody can assist in final, even schurrell had an assist in WC final. FYI, Lampard had a goal in ucl final or is ucl not a major tournament?

Debroslink:


You think by shooting from 30 yards out makes you a Master? Lampard was a passenger in almost all his European finals. Not even a single assist to bail his team out.

This is lame. He had a ucl goal.

Emaprince:
Lampard's equalizer against manure in 2007/2008 Cl final was the reason why the ball ended up in a penalty shoot out. So how was he a passenger who never bailed his team?

Mr man, you need to go for check up.. and stop chatting nonsense!!

i tire oo. Truly all this "up Barka" fan no nothing about football.

jstbeinhonest:



See mumu talk

Iniesta is a Visionless.

Guardiola is a Fraud.

Pique hides behind Barca attacking football, he'll be exposed else where.

Bravo is a scam.

Busquet is shit.

Alves can defend to save his life.

Neymar is A poor mans Hazard.

Alba is not a Top 10 LB, he is a defensive Walcot.

Messi is a dwarf who cant perform without Xavi & Iniesta, his shitty performance at Argie is evidence.

I'm sure i'll soon read something here about Puyol & Xavi.

Na Who else remain?

The truth be say most of all this quote you mentioned are correct bar Messi, xavi and iniesta

hensben:
The truth be say most of all this quote you mentioned are correct bar Messi, xavi and iniesta

How come barca have been the best club?

I.e Santi Carzola is as good as Iniesta...

donjazet:

Out of curiosity, writing werey mean?

Madman = werey.. I am sure airmark knew I wasn't serious abt it tho!

This isIniesta stats in 2013/14

A player with 91% pass accuracy, Is that one obese fattybombom dey call unproductive. A player who won MOTM at CL final, World cup final and Euro finals

raumdeuter:
This isIniesta stats in 2013/14

A player with 91% pass accuracy, Is that one obese fattybombom dey call unproductive. A player who won MOTM at CL final, World cup final and Euro finals

Since when 91% pass accuracy turn yardstick? Why not add dribbling ,bossing and co. so,we can totally ignore your initially position on goals scoring and assist?

diggz:


Since when 91% pass accuracy turn yardstick? Why not add dribbling ,bossing and co. so,we can totally ignore your initially position on goals scoring and assist?

The rational thing will be to show us the footballers with more than 91% pass accuracy over a season and lets see

remove defenders who mostly play safe passes, lets gather a list of midfielders that played over 30games and see those who have over 91% pass accuracy

atached is also the pass completion in the CL