Onegai:
We have all spoken and said enough to MummyGwen please.

dtush, thanks for the offer. Mummygwen, consider taking her up on her offer of a pm. Lord knows I too need it.

.


Class captain toh bad!!.i concur.
No mother enjoys beating her child.go easy on her mamas please.



Classcaptain. I never see catalogue oo

Postpartum depression indeed... It's like u all don't read before making comments, I said this babe don't eat anything, I do my pap myself... As for staying away from work and watching her I have not been to work since on tuesday all for her, and as for taking a nanny, u think nanny that will stay with her in the house is better than where she will be in crèche, mind u I have changed her crèche twice in a period of three months, all for eating reasons, asking if she eat in the crèche, am not there but I always ask when I pick her if she eat and ofcourse they will say she finished the food but when I carry her she always look light... Mothers u all should give me solutions other than blabbing about been a good mom cos I know non of u re better mom than I am and besides I know beating a baby is not good and before u condemned me I already did in my previous post. So u read well before commenting and not commenting coz other moms re doing that... The time u will use to type all that stuffs I already know, tell me things I don't know like ways my baby might take atleast any food cos that's y I posted here... I can count how many days I have been to work since I resumed work... My manager have to call me yesterday to know what the problem is... U know what no need as I see that most mothers here re self glorifying peeps who do more than what I have done... U only know what someone is going thru when dey open their mouth. So u all closing ur mouth and commenting should just be careful. At shilloh a woman have to tell me that this ur baby is two people that will hold her to feed, to tell u how bad it is and all this self glorifying moms comment what they feel like commenting. and mind u been a ftm does not make me to beat her ooooo,, lol, am the first in my family and I took care of all my siblings so I have seen different picky eaters ok.

MummyGwen:
Postpartum depression indeed... It's like u all don't read before making comments, I said this babe don't eat anything, I do my pap myself... As for staying away from work and watching her I have not been to work since on tuesday all for her, and as for taking a nanny, u think nanny that will stay with her in the house is better than where she will be in crèche, mind u I have changed her crèche twice in a period of three months, all for eating reasons, asking if she eat in the crèche, am not there but I always ask when I pick her if she eat and ofcourse they will say she finished the food but when I carry her she always look light... Mothers u all should give me solutions other than blabbing about been a good mom cos I know non of u re better mom than I am and besides I know beating a baby is not good and before u condemned me I already did in my previous post. So u read well before commenting and not commenting coz other moms re doing that... The time u will use to type all that stuffs I already know, tell me things I don't know like ways my baby might take atleast any food cos that's y I posted here... I can count how many days I have been to work since I resumed work... My manager have to call me yesterday to know what the problem is... U know what no need as I see that most mothers here re self glorifying peeps who do more than what I have done... U only know what someone is going thru when dey open their mouth. So u all closing ur mouth and commenting should just be careful. At shilloh a woman have to tell me that this ur baby is two people that will hold her to feed, to tell u how bad it is and all this self glorifying moms comment what they feel like commenting. and mind u been a ftm does not make me to beat her ooooo,, lol, am the first in my family and I took care of all my siblings so I have seen different picky eaters ok.

Your baby!
Your choice!
You decisions!

On a lighter note( change of topic)

Copied:

HOW TO KNOW IF YOUR MOTHER IS A NIGERIAN;
.
1) When you say, "Mummy, I'm Sorry!" And she
replies, "Sorry
for yourself!"
.
2) When you ask her where you should drop
something and she
says, ?Drop it on my head."
.
3) When she brings food
wrapped in a nylon bag from a party.
.
4) When you say, ''Mummy, I have fever.? And
she replies
you, ?Why won't you have fever when you press
phone every night?
.
.
5) When you say, ?Mummy I took 2nd in my
class.? and she replies, ?So the person that took
first has two heads abi??
.
.
6) When she takes the DSTV remote to work, just
to punish you.
.
7) When you are watching television with her and
then she sleeps off and still doesn?t
want you to change the
channel.
.
.
When you tell her you are going to a friend's
place to play and she asks, ''When last did that
friend
come here to play with you?
.
.
9) When she asks you if the food she served you
is enough, and
you reply no, and she says, come and eat my own
with yours.
.
10) When she tells you, if I hear Peem, you will
hear Ween.
.
11) When she touches hot pot comfortably
without a cloth or
paper.
.
12) When she tells you, ''I didn't kill my mother,
so you will not kill
me''.
.
13) When she calls you from your room upstairs
and then sends you back upstairs to bring her
purse.
.
14) When you ask her to refund the money she
borrowed u and
she tells you, "All the food you have been eating
in the house
nko? Which money did you think was used in
buying them?''

15) When the remote is right next to her but she calls you from your room to change the channel for her.

Our Mothers are wonderful. ( Place a call to your mum today to appreciate her, dads aren't left out ooo)

Eeeerm, Who amongst us has started exhibiting this traits

MamaOO:

I had/have the same problem of inverted nipplés. I used nipplé shields at first and I've got both the Medela and the Lansinoh ones but I prefer the Medela ones because they're so soft(silicon) and almost skin like. I searched Konga for you, but they only have the Avent and Tommee Tippee ones. Maybe you should give it a try. After a while the nipplés will be out a little bit and try getting him/her to latch without. I have started weaning mine off the shield, sometimes I succeed in getting him to latch without, sometimes I don't. Its a gradual process.

Thanks so much MamaOO,I will try to get it.am glad to hear dis.

MamaOO:

Good morning sis! So nice to hear from you! I guess I need to show this pic to someone then. She's about to have three baby in under three years.

My friend has something like that...although hers has faded a bit cos she gave birth to the second child 6years ago
She had 2 really big babies in 2years. The first was about 4.6kg but died some days after birth so she took in again immediately and had another 4.something kg baby

dunasy:

On a lighter note( change of topic)

Copied:

HOW TO KNOW IF YOUR MOTHER IS A NIGERIAN;
.
1) When you say, "Mummy, I'm Sorry!" And she
replies, "Sorry
for yourself!"
.
2) When you ask her where you should drop
something and she
says, ?Drop it on my head."
.
3) When she brings food
wrapped in a nylon bag from a party.
.
4) When you say, ''Mummy, I have fever.? And
she replies
you, ?Why won't you have fever when you press
phone every night?
.
.
5) When you say, ?Mummy I took 2nd in my
class.? and she replies, ?So the person that took
first has two heads abi??
.
.
6) When she takes the DSTV remote to work, just
to punish you.
.
7) When you are watching television with her and
then she sleeps off and still doesn?t
want you to change the
channel.
.
.
When you tell her you are going to a friend's
place to play and she asks, ''When last did that
friend
come here to play with you?
.
.
9) When she asks you if the food she served you
is enough, and
you reply no, and she says, come and eat my own
with yours.
.
10) When she tells you, if I hear Peem, you will
hear Ween.
.
11) When she touches hot pot comfortably
without a cloth or
paper.
.
12) When she tells you, ''I didn't kill my mother,
so you will not kill
me''.
.
13) When she calls you from your room upstairs
and then sends you back upstairs to bring her
purse.
.
14) When you ask her to refund the money she
borrowed u and
she tells you, "All the food you have been eating
in the house
nko? Which money did you think was used in
buying them?''

15) When the remote is right next to her but she calls you from your room to change the channel for her.

Our Mothers are wonderful. ( Place a call to your mum today to appreciate her, dads aren't left out ooo)

Eeeerm, Who amongst us has started exhibiting this traits

If you are trying to stylishly confess to us all that you have started exhibiting these traits, it's okay. We are here to help

dunasy,i cant stop laughing ooo. i told my mom sometime ago that i am having ear problem,she said why wont I have it that she has been seeing me blocking my ears with ear piece.lols

@MummyGwen
My heart goes out to you. There's nothing as frustrating as a baby who doesn't like eating. Pls sift thru all that's been said here u need to actually ignore some posts.
To all mamas we need to reevaluate the way we respond sometimes. Diplomacy and tact is a good trait to possess. Its easy to sense her frustration about the issue she posted .there was no need to beat her up with our words.

Mummygwen normally I'd jump and pass some posts, but before I do I'd say this. Try and see a pediatrician.
My lo rejected bm for one night and I took him to the hospital the next day. I told the doctor I felt something was wrong and she agreed too. Ran tests on him and found out the poor chap had an infection. The doctor said she suspected infection when i mentioned his refusal to eat as it's one of the signs.

**Always trust your instinct as a mom**

MummyGwen:
At shilloh a woman have to tell me that this ur baby is two people that will hold her to feed

hotmomma:
Thanks coldf.eet

You are Welcome.

Chai, see dragging. I wish i had seen Onegai's post calling for close on the topic before posting.

Since we are all gathering here, I wanted to do a post on more Kids Activities, this one concerns Writing. Anyone interested?

Crayons and Writing

So, we see kids with crayons and we give our kids but don't know why. It's an important development tool ad Scribbling leads to Writing and Strengthening shoulder and hand muscles. It's important to give your kids crayons. Because a lot of toddlers start school and hate writing or write badly. I know someone who said her nephew hated writing at 4 years old and my nephews wrote badly at 5 years.

A crayon helps develop the right pencil grip. But there are some things you have to do first:

1. Buy the right type of crayons. See those cheap, Chinese ones? They usually have traces of Lead in it. And THERE IS NO SAFE AMOUNT OF LEAD TO ANYTHING, IT MOST DEFINITELY CAUSES CANCER. Proven fact. They keep complaining about those very cheap Chinese crayons in the US and I see them a lot here in Nigeria. So try and patronise brands like Crayola and Reeves (US and UK made). Also Nataraj is Indian but I don't know if it's safe.

It is important to buy the right, safe brands because your kid is gonna eat a lot of crayons. My LO uses them as a snack (especially Green, Pink, Brown and dark Blue).

2. Unwrap them and break them into 2 or 3. It's smaller. A long pencil or crayon means your kid makes a fist and grabs it at the top and scribbles. And this becomes hard for them when they start using pencils and trying to write, because it gets hard. So break all pencils or crayons and watch your kid automatically hold it the right way (it will come instinctively).

3. Give them paper. I used to buy sheets of large paper at N5 apiece but they are a pain to get (unless you can ask an Art student to buy for you).

Check Ojuelegba for art supplies (Artworld especially) and The Reading Corner in Ikoyi also sells Crayola brand (it's hard to find a bit).

Onegai:
Crayons and Writing

So, we see kids with crayons and we give our kids but don't know why. It's an important development tool ad Scribbling leads to Writing and Strengthening shoulder and hand muscles. It's important to give your kids crayons. Because a lot of toddlers start school and hate writing or write badly.

Interested. My 14months old has started grabbing Biros and Pencils. I read somewhere that introducing writing materials too early can lead to poor development of the hand muscles, ( i will dig up the article and post). So my questions are

1. At what age can i introduce any form of writing materials
2. She is still at the stage where everythg goes into her mouth. I tried crayon, next thg, into her mouth. Are there edible crayons and where can i get please?

Thanks

MummyGwen:
, asking if she eat in the crèche, am not there but I always ask when I pick her if she eat and ofcourse they will say she finished the food but when I carry her she always look light... ok.

The staff at the crèche have no reason to lie about your baby not eating. To be honest, you are one paranoid woman !!

Since you work, I'm guessing your baby is at crèche between 9am to 5pm (averagely). It's impossible for her at all not to eat during this time. Even if she did not, she will be extremely cranky and fussy and such babies are not fun to manage at any crèche. For this simple reason, the staff at the crèche would have told you that she's not eating well and they would have suggested meals that you can introduce.

I have a son that started crèche early so I have a very good understanding how things work.

The fact is that your approach to feeding is totally different from the approach adopted at the crèche. I'm sure at the crèche, she's fed with love and patience which is why she eats really well.

What you should do is ask the staff at the crèche what time of the day she feeds and how she's fed and then you adopt their technique. You can also take a day off and spend a few hours at the crèche to see how the staff feed her.

Since when did your hands become a "weighing scale" So just because you carry her and she's "light" means she hasnt been fed at the crèche? When was the last time you had her weight checked at the hospital ? Have you had the nurse or doctor weigh her and then compare her birth weight with her current weight using a baby's weight chart?

MummyGwen:
cos I know none of u re better mom than I am

Is this your attempt at humour or what ?

The fact that you BEAT a 6 months old baby makes you a very BAD AND TERRIBLE MOTHER. there's no sugar coating it.

You are very lucky that this is a Nigerian forum and you have people here trading "turanchi" with you. Try this in any western or developed country and someone would have reported anonymously to the authorities, your IP address would have been tracked and you would have received a home visit from child protection officers.

dtush:


Interested. My 14months old has started grabbing Biros and Pencils. I read somewhere that introducing writing materials too early can lead to poor development of the hand muscles, ( i will dig up the article and post). So my questions are

1. At what age can i introduce any form of writing materials
2. She is still at the stage where everythg goes into her mouth. I tried crayon, next thg, into her mouth. Are there edible crayons and where can i get please?

Thanks

There are safe crayons from Crayola for 0-36 but the best place to check for Crayola is at The Reading Corner on Awolowo way in Ikoyi. AB Artworld used to have more options but reduced to just a few Crayola items because of lack of demand on the mainland.

Truly safe brands of crayons are sadly not sold in Nigeria because they ain't cheap and no-one wants products only a few people want.

Did you try my earlier mix of edible paint? That can be used with fingers or a brush and is edible. Just get a cheap, chubby handled bristle brush and let your kid feel like Monet.

MummyGwen:
mind u I have changed her crèche twice in a period of three months,

Okay. Let's breakdown this your statement.

Your baby is 6 months old and you have changed crèches twice in three months. This means she started crèche when she was 3 months old.

At 3 months, what were you feeding her? Wasn't it just milk or did you introduce solids at that age?

You've said in your previous posts that she takes breastmilk very well. So where you expressing milk for her to take to crèche at 3 months? If not, then what was she having at the crèche?

If she was rejecting formula or bottle at 3months, did it ever occur to you that it might be that she was uncomfortable with the teat of the feeding bottle? Maybe the teat was too hard for her or the flow from the teat was too slow for her? Did you consider changing the teat or trying another formula brand?

Have you had her checked to see if she's not down with tonsillitis as this makes swallowing very difficult/painful in babies?

Finally, you fail to remember that your baby is only 6 months old. Let it sink it into your skull that your baby is only 6 months old and not 6 years old. Her sense of touch, smell and taste are still developing.

Onegai:


There are safe crayons from Crayola for 0-36 but the best place to check for Crayola is at The Reading Corner on Awolowo way in Ikoyi. AB Artworld used to have more options but reduced to just a few Crayola items because of lack of demand on the mainland.

Truly safe brands of crayons are sadly not sold in Nigeria because they ain't cheap and no-one wants products only a few people want.

Did you try my earlier mix of edible paint? That can be used with fingers or a brush and is edible. Just get a cheap, chubby handled bristle brush and let your kid feel like Monet.

We tried it oo. But we used the bathroom for easy clean up. I just converted one of my old make up brushes, and she had on just her diaper.

We ended up painting each other. Was a fun mummy and me activitiy

dtush:


We tried it oo. But we used the bathroom for easy clean up. I just converted one of my old make up brushes, and she had on just her diaper.

We ended up painting each other. Was a fun mummy and me activitiy

Awwwww

helovesme:


Okay. Let's breakdown this your statement.

Your baby is 6 months old and you have changed crèches twice in three months. This means she started crèche when she was 3 months old.

At 3 months, what were you feeding her? Wasn't it just milk or did you introduce solids at that age?

You've said in your previous posts that she takes breastmilk very well. So where you expressing milk for her to take to crèche at 3 months? If not, then what was she having at the crèche?

If she was rejecting formula or bottle at 3months, did it ever occur to you that it might be that she was uncomfortable with the teat of the feeding bottle? Maybe the teat was too hard for her or the flow from the teat was too slow for her? Did you consider changing the teat or trying another formula brand?

Have you had her checked to see if she's not down with tonsillitis as this makes swallowing very difficult/painful in babies?

Finally, you fail to remember that your baby is only 6 months old. Let it sink it into your skull that your baby is only 6 months old and not 6 years old. Her sense of touch, smell and taste are still developing.

Its okay please. Let the matter rest

MummyGwen:
U all have said well... But if only u know what am passing thru with this my drama queen, u all will raise hand for be and a trophy for been the best and most caring mother on planet earth, my baby don't eat, a six months old looking like a 3months old, looking lean, she can put food in her mouth and not swallow it for ages, she will just keep it there. And for the record, I have tried all those blend fruit, even my colleagues do laff at me, I have to go to shoprite the other day to get all the good fruits baby likes, like kiwi, apple, pear, potatoes and the rest, I spent 8k that day, money is not the problem here as I and her dad have decided to give her anything she wishes to eat but she will put the food in her mouth and not eat it, this moment she will eat it the next she won't, for u all to see the many things I ve bought for her in the previous post means I ve done all what u have said, I have read and read all in how a baby will eat, I search Internet everyday cos of that, and as for giving adult food, I am also doing that, but she don't eat much, she will take one or two lil one and d next thing is water all thru. I love my baby so much as I have even ask and they said take her for massaging and I have done that, they said buy her multivitamin and my house have become a mini pharmacy that have all the multivitamin any one can think of including dynamogen. Oya those that said they have pass thru this kind of situation maybe u will tell me that ur baby will put food in their mouth and refuse to swallow it at all and she will pretend she is sleeping, she can sleep with that food in her mouth. Hehehe... I wonder how she learnt all that trick, I am not happy beating my child, it not a thing of joy that any mom will beat even her grown up not to say a six months old. And besides when she is crying she don't still take much she cry in a way that she won't still swallow the food like she is crying and the food is still in her mouth, have anyone also seen that or pass thru that. I have join this thread almost four months and I read everything, before I posted here know it has gone beyond my control. Thanks for all the response, and mind u am not justifying myself. She even refuse formular, I tried that one when ever I notice she want water and she refuse drinking it, the only thing she take is breastmilk. Can a six months survive on that and am a working mom. She goes to crèche. Oya make una respond again.

my dear don't be hard on itself. Im sure ure doin ur best and all u do is out of love and concern for ur baby. About the beating, we must all admit that we 'tap' , 'spank', 'knock' our kids for one reason or the other but we wont come here and say it as u did thereby making pple go all judge Judy on u. All in all, keep trying to feed her at her own pace, be patient with her and she will thrive. Best wishes

[quote author=farydah post=51894114]
my dear don't be hard on itself. Im sure ure doin ur best and all u do is out of love and concern for ur baby. About the beating, we must all admit that we 'tap' , 'spank', 'knock' our kids for one reason or the other but we wont come here and say it as u did thereby making pple go all judge Judy on u. All in all, keep trying to feed her at her own pace, be patient with her and she will thrive. Best wishes[/quote

Kai Farydah? Tap, spank and knock at 6 months? Nope!

[quote author=faithisallihave post=51894231][/quote]

As in. I'm weak. This thread has revealed people that are closet child abusers.

Onegai:


If you are trying to stylishly confess to us all that you have started exhibiting these traits, it's okay. We are here to help

I know I will do no 15 well, I can send on errands ehn

farydah:

my dear don't be hard on itself. Im sure ure doin ur best and all u do is out of love and concern for ur baby. About the beating, we must all admit that we 'tap' , 'spank', 'knock' our kids for one reason or the other but we wont come here and say it as u did thereby making pple go all judge Judy on u. All in all, keep trying to feed her at her own pace, be patient with her and she will thrive. Best wishes

Madam.

Please speak for yourself. I have a 15 months old son and I have NEVER 'spank', 'tap' or 'knock' ed him.

Some of us actually live in countries where we are accountable for our actions and there are family courts that won't hesitate to take a child from the parents. A baby here doesn't belong to the parents technically. Bring harm to that child and the government steps in, takes the child away and the parents have no contact till the child is 18years.

U "knock" a child on the head and he faints and you rush him to A&E. A brain scan or CT scan is done and brain bleed is detected. Which mouth do you want to use to explain what you've done?

Can't believe that you actually think it's okay to abuse/assault a baby physically and cheering her on that "it's okay" and "other mums" do it.

I really, really think everyone does NOT want to discuss this topic anymore, Helovesme, Farydah, faithisallihave and any other mamas planning on commenting. Please feel free to take this as a very serious suggestion that this topic should be dropped on this thread, however I'm sure the PM function can help continue this discussion offthread. Thanks ladies.

Onegai:
I really, really think everyone does NOT want to discuss this topic anymore, Helovesme, Farydah, faithisallihave and any other mamas planning on commenting. Please feel free to take this as a very serious suggestion that this topic should be dropped on this thread, however I'm sure the PM function can help continue this discussion offthread. Thanks ladies.

Aye, aye captain

Helovesme you really don't have the right to call anyone a bad mother because she spank her baby.I don't care which saner environment you are living but I think you shouldn't.do to your kid what you think is best for them but don't try and smother someone else with your opinion.

I tap my baby bottom today when he threw up all his medicine and yes he is six months old.