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Stalwert:
Please brothers help me empire.e, is he ashamed of Islam that he has consistently refused to answer the question regarding its position on war, how it is to be fought and how to treat civilians? Please help me ask why all this pivot to right akin to talking about the Gestation period of elephant? Emp.iree why can't you use Islam as the criterion to judge Assad's actions? Let frame the question as follows:

1. Does Islam permits killing people who questions the way you are ruling them or demand their rights?

2. What is Islam Position on Fighting Wars with regards to the rights of civilians?

2. What does Islam says targeting civilians?

3. Does Islam support the use of Chemical weapons, indiscriminate bombings of civilians, starving civilians, burning them etc?

4. Does Islam permit the support of terrorist organizations like al qaeda, which we learn Assad did during US occupation of Iraq?

4. Does you the Assad regime which you are more favorably dispose to adhere to these Islamic principles?

let me stop here, brothers please help me beg Empi.ree to answer the question and not bore us with red herrings

Onyocha:
when terrorists took over Aleppo some four years ago with the help of "kuffar" western powers and Wahhabi takfiri terrorists from all corners of the world to fight a legitimate government and "share democracy for free" to Syrian children, you guys did not cry. you praised it as a "revolution". you did not see the government regaining control of its land. you did not cry for the Christians, Shia and Alawites who got butchered and beheaded by extremist Wahhabi Sunni terrorists. you now cry when the government of the land is imposing its right as the "constituted authority" of the land to regain control. what Assad and his allies is doing in Aleppo against terrorists is no different from what Nigeria did in Bornu against Boko Haram Wahhabi terrorists. and your cry for Aleppo is no different than your cry for Boko Haram when a Christian was president of Nigeria fighting Wahhabi terror. you saw him as a Christian fighting "Muslims". whenever the person fighting against terror is not Sunni, you view the terrorists as "innocent Sunni civilians" leading a divine battle. shame on you.

it is called "sovereignty" and the Syrian government has the will to regain every inch of Syrian territory. most of you hypocrites are not crying for civilians. it is a big lie. do you cry for Yemen, where Wahhabi Saudi Arabia is on an indiscriminate bombing campaign to kill Yemeni Shiite civilians out of sectarian hate? do you cry for the yemen population that is starving because of saudi siege? what does saudi has to do with yemen? you only cry about Russia. it is only russian bombs that kill civilians. saudi and american bombs do not, in the mind of a hypocrite Wahhabi!!! those are precision bombs directed by the angels of Allah!!! you also dont cry over Bahrain, in spite of the fact that the population is majority Shia and repressed and oppressed and their revolution has been nothing close to violence in Syria if at all.

lt it is not Assad that is killing civilians for being Sunni or of whatever religion or fairy-tales they believe in. it is your takfiri Wahhabi terrorists who go about killing Shia and Alawites and Christians because of what those people believe in. Takfiri killings is the whole-mark of Wahhabism. you guys are crying because the terrorists got beaten very disgracefully and the entire Sunni world cannot do anything; and even though the entire world (apart from Russian, China, Iran, and hezbollah and their allies) backed them to violently overthrow Assad because Europe needs a gas pipeline from Qatar across Syria into Europe; that would enable Europe be independent of Russian gas supply. and Saudi wants a Sunni puppet ruling Syria, and for the same reason of having a puppet who is pro-Zionist, Israel and the west want Assad out. too bad those dreams have been buried in Aleppo.

as for the civilians, any genuine civilian who got killed by government fire is undeliberate and "collateral damage" and the consequence of a sectarian terror/proxy war imposed on Syria because its leader is not Sunni and because of its polity resisting Israel and allying with Russia and Iran. it is a proxy war in Syria. it is a sectarian and regional war too. dont cry about civilians. the so called rebels hypocrite Vedaxcool CALLING YOURSELF STALWERT cheered for are now beaten. even tbaba joined the sectarian bandwagon to cheer for terrorists. now they are beaten. Allah did not answer your sectarian prayers. He has disappointed you big time. you lost against Jewish Israel every time and now you are losing big time against Shia Muslims in Syria and Iraq. Allah does not hear the prayers of takfiris. very sad the takfiris who put Shia civilians in cages and used them as human shields is well documented and reported in the media, if only you dont listen all the time to aljazeera and western media.

Assad ruled Syria for 11 years before the world war on Syria. not once did he touch any Syrian because of his belief or religion. he ruled everyone as a true secularist. that is soemthing not found in the Sunni led arab countries. Syria remains the only secular Arab country in the Middle East. and kudos to Russia for protecting that and fighting terrorism. as sad as the loss of civilian lives is, hypocrites who cheered each time the takfiri terrorists took over cities in Syria have no right to complain.

Onyocha:
when terrorists took over Aleppo some four years ago with the help of "kuffar" western powers and Wahhabi takfiri terrorists from all corners of the world to fight a legitimate government and "share democracy for free" to Syrian children, you guys did not cry. you praised it as a "revolution". you did not see the government regaining control of its land. you did not cry for the Christians, Shia and Alawites who got butchered and beheaded by extremist Wahhabi Sunni terrorists. you now cry when the government of the land is imposing its right as the "constituted authority" of the land to regain control. what Assad and his allies is doing in Aleppo against terrorists is no different from what Nigeria did in Bornu against Boko Haram Wahhabi terrorists. and your cry for Aleppo is no different than your cry for Boko Haram when a Christian was president of Nigeria fighting Wahhabi terror. you saw him as a Christian fighting "Muslims". whenever the person fighting against terror is not Sunni, you view the terrorists as "innocent Sunni civilians" leading a divine battle. shame on you.

it is called "sovereignty" and the Syrian government has the will to regain every inch of Syrian territory. most of you hypocrites are not crying for civilians. it is a big lie. do you cry for Yemen, where Wahhabi Saudi Arabia is on an indiscriminate bombing campaign to kill Yemeni Shiite civilians out of sectarian hate? do you cry for the yemen population that is starving because of saudi siege? what does saudi has to do with yemen? you only cry about Russia. it is only russian bombs that kill civilians. saudi and american bombs do not, in the mind of a hypocrite Wahhabi!!! those are precision bombs directed by the angels of Allah!!! you also dont cry over Bahrain, in spite of the fact that the population is majority Shia and repressed and oppressed and their revolution has been nothing close to violence in Syria if at all.

lt it is not Assad that is killing civilians for being Sunni or of whatever religion or fairy-tales they believe in. it is your takfiri Wahhabi terrorists who go about killing Shia and Alawites and Christians because of what those people believe in. Takfiri killings is the whole-mark of Wahhabism. you guys are crying because the terrorists got beaten very disgracefully and the entire Sunni world cannot do anything; and even though the entire world (apart from Russian, China, Iran, and hezbollah and their allies) backed them to violently overthrow Assad because Europe needs a gas pipeline from Qatar across Syria into Europe; that would enable Europe be independent of Russian gas supply. and Saudi wants a Sunni puppet ruling Syria, and for the same reason of having a puppet who is pro-Zionist, Israel and the west want Assad out. too bad those dreams have been buried in Aleppo.

as for the civilians, any genuine civilian who got killed by government fire is undeliberate and "collateral damage" and the consequence of a sectarian terror/proxy war imposed on Syria because its leader is not Sunni and because of its polity resisting Israel and allying with Russia and Iran. it is a proxy war in Syria. it is a sectarian and regional war too. dont cry about civilians. the so called rebels hypocrite Vedaxcool CALLING YOURSELF STALWERT cheered for are now beaten. even tbaba joined the sectarian bandwagon to cheer for terrorists. now they are beaten. Allah did not answer your sectarian prayers. He has disappointed you big time. you lost against Jewish Israel every time and now you are losing big time against Shia Muslims in Syria and Iraq. Allah does not hear the prayers of takfiris. very sad the takfiris who put Shia civilians in cages and used them as human shields is well documented and reported in the media, if only you dont listen all the time to aljazeera and western media.

Assad ruled Syria for 11 years before the world war on Syria. not once did he touch any Syrian because of his belief or religion. he ruled everyone as a true secularist. that is soemthing not found in the Sunni led arab countries. Syria remains the only secular Arab country in the Middle East. and kudos to Russia for protecting that and fighting terrorism. as sad as the loss of civilian lives is, hypocrites who cheered each time the takfiri terrorists took over cities in Syria have no right to complain.

NaijaTalkTown:
May Allah bless you abundantly for this my brother. When muslims like myself try to speak out, we are tagged as non-muslims or "indomie muslims" simply because we do not belong to any sector. We are simply muslims! Why are these people not concerned about Raqqa, Mosul, Kashmir, and even Yemen? Why were they silent all this while? Why are they praying for Muslims in Alleppo now that the region has been liberated? Are they praying for the Muslims or they terrorists who tarnish the image of other Muslims (if not all Muslims)? These hypocrites are the real terrorists and they know it!

Empiree:
I think you missed the point completely. There is propaganda going on right now and people fall for it. The comment above me was right. If you noticed when those crazy people were killing, the West cheered them. None of us is there now to affirm the truth. Around me here everyone keeps saying Assad is this and that. I dont go by majority. It is very simple. The rebels could simply surrender their weapons to avoid this madness. Govt never surrenders. Govt exercise power and authority. Just like buhari is doing to bh now.

Imagine rebels fighting UK govt now, do you think the govt would bow?. No. If Assad should step down, who is it to be there from the rebels side?. This is exactly what i said on libya when everyone was cheering the rebels but i saw it differently and i was right. After rebels took over, they killed US ambassador. But then they were not rebels. They were called "freedom fighters" something like that. When they killed US person, they are terrorists. It is a game they play. Unfortunately civilians got caught up in the process. Dont think for a second brother that i support Assad. That's not my point. My point is the rebels the west funds are no better. They want to them to come to power.

WorldRichest:
I think you are MAD. Wetin concern you with Allepo in Syria? Even for Arepo here for Lagos - Ibadan in Naija both Muslims and Christians are dying of hunger. My friend, you better keep quite and mind your business. How come you leave your own problems here in Naija come carry Syria problems for head like Gala. Just shut fucck the up.

Their idiotic president called Bashar al-Assad is really a sad niggga, he has been killing his citizens to remain in power. I am sure one day, very very soon his corpse will be fed to the dogs. But, as for me, I mind my business and let other people too mind their businesses.

quickly:
SYRIANS WAS A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY WHEN THEY ALLLOWED MUSLIM BECOME A MAJORITY SEE WHAT HAPPENED.

THEY STARTED THERE SUNNI VS SHIA FIGHT AND KILLING.


LOOK AT THIS

BASHAR ALASLAAD IS A SHIA RULING A SUNNI COUNTRY AND THE SUNNI DONT WANT HIM TO RULE ....THAT IS THE SIMPLE STORY


BASHAR CALLED RUSSIA TO HELP HIM AND THAT IS WHY YOU SEE BOMBINGS


MORAL OF THE STORY: WHEN MUSLIM BECOME MAJORITY AWAIT THERE ETERNAL SHIA VS SUNNI FIGHT..


PREVIOUSLY IT WAS IRAN (SHIA) VS SA OR IRAQ (SUNNI)

Stalwert:
Please brothers help me empiree, is he ashamed of Islam that he has consistently refused to answer the question regarding its position on war, how it is to be fought and how to treat civilians? Please help me ask why all this pivot to right akin to talking about the Gestation period of elephant? Empiree why can't you use Islam as the criterion to judge Assad's actions? Let frame the question as follows:

1. Does Islam permits killing people who questions the way you are ruling them or demand their rights?

2. What is Islam Position on Fighting Wars with regards to the rights of civilians?

2. What does Islam says targeting civilians?

3. Does Islam support the use of Chemical weapons, indiscriminate bombings of civilians, starving civilians, burning them etc?

4. Does Islam permit the support of terrorist organizations like al qaeda, which we learn Assad did during US occupation of Iraq?

4. Does you the Assad regime which you are more favorably dispose to adhere to these Islamic principles?

let me stop here, brothers please help me beg Empiree to answer the question and not bore us with red herrings

Rafidi:
this view is too simplistic. Syria is 50% Sunni Arab and these people are divided between pro and anti-Assad. the turmoil appears huge because Sunni Arabs are the largest single community in Syria, but definitely not the majority. the Sunni Kurds make up around 20%, but Sunni Kurds and Sunni Arabs do not get along because of their difference in ethnicity. there is 10% Christians and 20% Shia (including the Alawite Shia sub-sect that Assad belongs to). one can conveniently say the majority of Syrians, as polls have shown, support Assad.

and correction, Iraq is majority Shia. but saddam was Sunni. kind of the opposite with syria. only that in iraq, the Shia Arab are clear cut majority making at least 70% of the population.

Empiree:
I am sorry brother. If my two posts i re-quoted did not clear my stance on this, I wont bother myself. You trying to focus on Assad, the same thing you said, Shias could say the same of Sunni regime elsewhere. I hope you reason. Islamic rulings of engagement of war is crystal clear. So I dont know why you asking me. So please read my first post and the second one. And please stop selling me propaganda about his chemical weapons nonsense. Cant believe you would spread that propaganda that was confuted.

Onyocha:
when terrorists took over Aleppo some four years ago with the help of "kuffar" western powers and Wahhabi takfiri terrorists from all corners of the world to fight a legitimate government and "share democracy for free" to Syrian children, you guys did not cry. you praised it as a "revolution". you did not see the government regaining control of its land. you did not cry for the Christians, Shia and Alawites who got butchered and beheaded by extremist Wahhabi Sunni terrorists. you now cry when the government of the land is imposing its right as the "constituted authority" of the land to regain control. what Assad and his allies is doing in Aleppo against terrorists is no different from what Nigeria did in Bornu against Boko Haram Wahhabi terrorists. and your cry for Aleppo is no different than your cry for Boko Haram when a Christian was president of Nigeria fighting Wahhabi terror. you saw him as a Christian fighting "Muslims". whenever the person fighting against terror is not Sunni, you view the terrorists as "innocent Sunni civilians" leading a divine battle. shame on you.

it is called "sovereignty" and the Syrian government has the will to regain every inch of Syrian territory. most of you hypocrites are not crying for civilians. it is a big lie. do you cry for Yemen, where Wahhabi Saudi Arabia is on an indiscriminate bombing campaign to kill Yemeni Shiite civilians out of sectarian hate? do you cry for the yemen population that is starving because of saudi siege? what does saudi has to do with yemen? you only cry about Russia. it is only russian bombs that kill civilians. saudi and american bombs do not, in the mind of a hypocrite Wahhabi!!! those are precision bombs directed by the angels of Allah!!! you also dont cry over Bahrain, in spite of the fact that the population is majority Shia and repressed and oppressed and their revolution has been nothing close to violence in Syria if at all.

lt it is not Assad that is killing civilians for being Sunni or of whatever religion or fairy-tales they believe in. it is your takfiri Wahhabi terrorists who go about killing Shia and Alawites and Christians because of what those people believe in. Takfiri killings is the whole-mark of Wahhabism. you guys are crying because the terrorists got beaten very disgracefully and the entire Sunni world cannot do anything; and even though the entire world (apart from Russian, China, Iran, and hezbollah and their allies) backed them to violently overthrow Assad because Europe needs a gas pipeline from Qatar across Syria into Europe; that would enable Europe be independent of Russian gas supply. and Saudi wants a Sunni puppet ruling Syria, and for the same reason of having a puppet who is pro-Zionist, Israel and the west want Assad out. too bad those dreams have been buried in Aleppo.

as for the civilians, any genuine civilian who got killed by government fire is undeliberate and "collateral damage" and the consequence of a sectarian terror/proxy war imposed on Syria because its leader is not Sunni and because of its polity resisting Israel and allying with Russia and Iran. it is a proxy war in Syria. it is a sectarian and regional war too. dont cry about civilians. the so called rebels hypocrite Vedaxcool CALLING YOURSELF STALWERT cheered for are now beaten. even tbaba joined the sectarian bandwagon to cheer for terrorists. now they are beaten. Allah did not answer your sectarian prayers. He has disappointed you big time. you lost against Jewish Israel every time and now you are losing big time against Shia Muslims in Syria and Iraq. Allah does not hear the prayers of takfiris. very sad the takfiris who put Shia civilians in cages and used them as human shields is well documented and reported in the media, if only you dont listen all the time to aljazeera and western media.

Assad ruled Syria for 11 years before the world war on Syria. not once did he touch any Syrian because of his belief or religion. he ruled everyone as a true secularist. that is soemthing not found in the Sunni led arab countries. Syria remains the only secular Arab country in the Middle East. and kudos to Russia for protecting that and fighting terrorism. as sad as the loss of civilian lives is, hypocrites who cheered each time the takfiri terrorists took over cities in Syria have no right to complain.

HAH:
Please don't rely only on media like aljazeera, cnn and Bbc there narrative are always same, try to watch opposing news outlets like RT and PressTV, then use your analogy to judge ,.

No government will allow it's citizens to be funded by foreign powers to overthrow it, Assad did not in anyway err, thanks to the Russians and Iranian for their help.