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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by Reference(m): 4:49pm On Dec 28, 2016

progress69:
We should go back to PHCN. Simple. All this excuses are very silly ones. The truth is that this discos were sold to family and friends, political associates and the likes, instead of competent firms who are experienced. Some of the owners of these discos are actually major importers of Generators and petroleum products.

Sentiments as usual. I can only reply objective arguments on the subject matter: why power is rejected. And for your information it is normal in the energy industry worldwide. You simply cannot take what you cannot use. If you are not making profit, you are in debt, the consequences of which are worse. Transysco should study the pattern and advice the GENCOS to trim output whenever uptake is weak if not, it is they who will go bankrupt.

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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by Hayzedious: 4:50pm On Dec 28, 2016

veekid:
The question should be why were they all rejecting the supply? Some ignorant will just open mouth begin vomit nonsenses that make sense to some bozo
#i'mout

We don hear you

Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by PentiumPro(f): 4:52pm On Dec 28, 2016

valuedammy:
Need to know the reason of rejection while the country is darkness. This country na zoo.

The reason is simple.
Any Disco that cannot reasonably and effectively metered the electricity it distributes will not be able to pay the Gencos and will just keep accumulating debt. The issue is worsened now with the fact that 1, estimated billing is becoming difficult to collect, 2, it's almost now illegal to disconnect owning customers.
The ultimate solution is to METERED ALL ELECTRICITY CONSUMERS.. Anything outside that will not work

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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by COdeGenesis: 4:53pm On Dec 28, 2016

Who will pay for the energy now ? This distribution companies are not making enough money because people are actually not paying for the energy consumed. The ones with prepaid meters will bypass this meters , the politicians and powerful people wont pay, the average nigerian cannot afford to pay for the energy they consume. It is well sha

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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by agabusta(op): 4:54pm On Dec 28, 2016

adeoye27:
I think We have a big challenge in our hands in Nigeria,i think we should revisit terms and conditions given to these companies before they took over this power business.We keep on complaining and it seems noboby is answering.God help Nigeria.

Thumbs up

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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by Agbaletu: 4:56pm On Dec 28, 2016

agabusta:
I just dont understand. Some people are alleging that it is because they will still make their money from estimated bills. And they in turn will not pay for the rejected power.

Exactly what my friend told me when he visited on Xmas day.
We are our own problem. We have electricity once in a three week or a month in my area and it will not last more than 3 - 4 hours.
While i enjoy 16 - 24 hours electricity everyday in Abuja.

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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by AZeD1(m): 4:56pm On Dec 28, 2016

Abujaexpress:
If consumers bypass prepaid meter, it is the Discos's fault. What stopped them from deploying a more robust technology to check mate meter bypassing?

Robust technology like?

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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by AZeD1(m): 4:58pm On Dec 28, 2016

PentiumPro:
The ultimate solution is to METERED ALL ELECTRICITY CONSUMERS.. Anything outside that will not work

If all consumers are metered, the disco's would lose badly.

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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by agabusta(op): 5:01pm On Dec 28, 2016

Abujaexpress:
If consumers bypass prepaid meter, it is the Discos's fault. What stopped them from deploying a more robust technology to check mate meter bypassing?

You are right on that. Some of them are already following this suggestion of yours. The prepaid metre installed in my house has a transmitter that transmit all activities on it directly to Eko Electricity Distribution company. Even if the cover is opened, a light comes up on its indoor unit and this is also transmitted to their office. They also installed the device high up an electricity pole. and covered the input and output cables to some extent. And stated that any tampering to the input and output cables will be transmitted to their office. I was even surprised to see that the meter uses a sim card.

This coupled with frequent inspections will reduce electricity theft to some extent. Unless there is sabotage on the part of their employees.

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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by Reference(m): 5:02pm On Dec 28, 2016

ayobase:
Consumers sabotaging the collective efforts of Disco, Transysco and Genco.

If consumers don't pay Discos, Discos can't pay Transysco or rather reject allocations, and with this Transysco can't pay Genco.

it all starts from Nigerians - consumers.

Those in the industry know how terrible the situation of electricity theft is which is worsening with he the recession. Admitted it is the responsibility of DISCOS to protect their investments and there are many suggestions and proposals out there on how to tackle the menace but to think they will just go on and on incurring losses without side effects is just foolhardy. We will get the service we are prepared to pay for. This issue amongst others is one of the big reasons, the big, global players watch from the sidelines, that is weak corporate governance, weak regulations, weak enforcement. If you stole a pack of recharge cards and you were caught you will be charged. On the other hand, have you ever heard anyone arrested by the police for stealing power. The worst you get is a disconnect, a small fine and a reconnect even if you have consumed a million naira worth of electricity. No business can run like that and yet we want stability while right billing covers just a fraction of consumers.

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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by nonjebose(m): 5:02pm On Dec 28, 2016*

BEDC, see your life! Load shedding is the order of the day

Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by PentiumPro(f): 5:04pm On Dec 28, 2016

AZeD1:
If all consumers are metered, the disco's would lose badly.

Not really, in fact, it will be better for them if people are properly metered. The more power they can deliver to metered households, the more efficient they get and more profitable they can get.

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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by PentiumPro(f): 5:07pm On Dec 28, 2016

agabusta:
You are right on that. Some of them are already following this suggestion of yours. The prepaid metre installed in my house has a transmitter that transmit all activities on it directly to Eko Electricity Distribution company. Even if the cover is opened, a light comes up on its indoor unit and this is also transmitted to their office. They also installed the device high up an electricity pole. and covered the input and output cables to some extent. And stated that any tampering to the input and output cables will be transmitted to their office. I was even surprised to see that the meter uses a sim card.

This coupled with frequent inspections will reduce electricity theft to some extent. Unless their is sabotage on the part of their employees.

This is the technology that Ikeja Electricity distribution is deploying now, and those areas already deployed enjoy considerable amount of power daily.

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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by obailala(m): 5:07pm On Dec 28, 2016

bettercreature:
A serious government would have fired Fasola because of this report

Can you kindly explain what this report has to do with Fashola?

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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by PentiumPro(f): 5:08pm On Dec 28, 2016

obailala:
Can you kindly explain what this report has to do with Fashola?

Exactly. Some of those folks allow hatred and nothing to determine how they contribute to a thread.
I'm almost sure the dude didn't read the report.

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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by jamace(m): 5:13pm On Dec 28, 2016

Even chimpanzees marvel at the crude mentality of Africans.

The DISCOs intention was to cheat Nigerians ab initio.

On "No meter, no pay" we stand! angry

Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by nonjebose(m): 5:16pm On Dec 28, 2016

Reference:
Sentiments as usual. I can only reply objective arguments on the subject matter: why power is rejected. And for your information it is normal in the energy industry worldwide. You simply cannot take what you cannot use. If you are not making profit, you are in debt, the consequences of which are worse. Transysco should study the pattern and advice the GENCOS to trim output whenever uptake is weak if not, it is they who will go bankrupt.

But from the article, the DISCOS union denied rejecting the power allotted to them. In as much as consumers are part of the problem, the culture of estimated bill has generally encouraged them to steal power or refuse to pay their bills

Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by badman007(m): 5:21pm On Dec 28, 2016*

Oh my days not Atiku again. That explains why they'd reject power. That man is good for nothing.

Obasanjo took over our Nitel while Atiku took our NEPA. That's what I call power sharing..

I've been recently informed that it's a different Atiku Abubakar, still doesn't change how I feel about the "real badguy one".

Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by AZeD1(m): 5:22pm On Dec 28, 2016

PentiumPro:
Not really, in fact, it will be better for them if people are properly metered. The more power they can deliver to metered households, the more efficient they get and more profitable they can get.

As of now, meters won't favour the companies.
Without meters, the discos can generate a certain amount of money via estimated billings but if houses are metered and a pipeline is blown in the Niger delta, then the income for the discos isn't guaranteed.

Also without billing, you pay for low current but with smart meters, your account doesn't read with low current.

Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by ayobase(m): 5:23pm On Dec 28, 2016

koxi:
Why won't they reject energy when at the end of the month they slap customers with ridiculous and outrageously dangerous electricity bills...?

Outrageous bills most times to augment what's lost as a result of atc&c loss - mostly from consumers, Nigerians.

There is never a smoke without a fire.

You have a neighbour who uses over N10,000 worth of electricity per month, but pays a token of N2,000 due to bypassing. Where do you think the 8k dey?

Report that your neighbour, and the corrupt "NEPA" man who helped with the connection.

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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by PentiumPro(f): 5:29pm On Dec 28, 2016

AZeD1:
As of now, meters won't favour the companies.
Without meters, the discos can generate a certain amount of money via estimated billings but if houses are metered and a pipeline is blown in the Niger delta, then the income for the discos isn't guaranteed.

Also without billing, you pay for low current but with smart meters, your account doesn't read with low current.

You are not getting the reason behind the rejection and you are therefore missing the point completely.
If the Gencos due to blown up pipelines cannot generate power, they won't be in a position to send any Invoice to the Discos for settlement.
If they are supplied with enough power and they know their cost, they only simply add the margin and bill the consumers for what they consumed, therefore the more power they can wheeled to people's houses, the better for them.

You need to know the value chain involve to understand the issues

Gas Producers ------> Electricity Generating Company ------> Transmission ------->Electricity Distribution Company ------>Household and Industrial consumers.

The Discos are more or less a collecting agent for the Gencos (for a fee)

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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by ayobase(m): 5:31pm On Dec 28, 2016

zicoraads:
Where do you reside? Hit the streets and march to their office. Make sure your number is very high. We did same in Minna and what a breather have we had. We have great improvement.

My brother, just pray AEDC get their returns or else you go back to former days.

Nigerlites and not paying bills is like that... - wey that Zuma picture.

Every daily supply to Minna is being copied to some personalities.

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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by Agbaletu: 5:35pm On Dec 28, 2016

AZeD1:
As of now, meters won't favour the companies.
Without meters, the discos can generate a certain amount of money via estimated billings but if houses are metered and a pipeline is blown in the Niger delta, then the income for the discos isn't guaranteed.

Also without billing, you pay for low current but with smart meters, your account doesn't read with low current.

The discos will not lose anything should they blown off pipelines. It is the gas company that will suffer.

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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by ayobase(m): 5:37pm On Dec 28, 2016

AZeD1:
If all consumers are metered, the disco's would lose badly.

Nope, they will gain badly if well monitored and maintained.
You buy what you will consume, and not paying for what consumed.
Pay as you use!

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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by ayobase(m): 5:40pm On Dec 28, 2016

Reference:
Those in the industry know how terrible the situation of electricity theft is which is worsening with he the recession. Admitted it is the responsibility of DISCOS to protect their investments and there are many suggestions and proposals out there on how to tackle the menace but to think they will just go on and on incurring losses without side effects is just foolhardy. We will get the service we are prepared to pay for. This issue amongst others is one of the big reasons, the big, global players watch from the sidelines, that is weak corporate governance, weak regulations, weak enforcement. If you stole a pack of recharge cards and you were caught you will be charged. On the other hand, have you ever heard anyone arrested by the police for stealing power. The worst you get is a disconnect, a small fine and a reconnect even if you have consumed a million naira worth of electricity. No business can run like that and yet we want stability while right billing covers just a fraction of consumers.

Which brings us to the conclusion of government enacting law against power theft and making it renowned via media.

Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by rhames(m): 5:41pm On Dec 28, 2016

agabusta:
The power problem in this country is multifaceted. It needs iron hand. Fashola seems inundated and too soft with these discos.

Mynd44, OAM4J, Lalasticlala please come and see this interesting report. Discos are turning down power supply despite that people are eagerly and prayerfully waiting to receive such electricity.

Something is definitely wrong somewhere with the power administration and management in this country.

Fashola does not control any thing under the power aspect of his ministry

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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by AZeD1(m): 5:44pm On Dec 28, 2016

PentiumPro:
You are not getting the reason behind the rejection and you are therefore missing the point completely.
If the Gencos due to blown up pipelines cannot generate power, they won't be in a position to send any Invoice to the Discos for settlement.
If they are supply with enough power and they know their cost, they only simply add the margin and bill the consumers for what they consumed, therefore the more power they can wheeled to people's houses the better for them.

You need to know the value chain involve to understand the issues

Gas Producers ------> Electricity Generating Company ------> Transmission ------->Electricity Distribution Company ------>Household and Industrial consumers.

The Discos are more or less a collecting agent for the Gencos (for a fee)

If you get light for 3 hours or you get for 6 hours, your bill is most likely the same.
If I travel for 2 months, I'll still get a bill but if I had prepaid meter, if I travel for 2 months and everything is off, the disco makes no money from me.

Have you ever wondered why it's hard to get a prepaid meter? If it would help the discos don't you think they'll do everything to make sure every customer has one.

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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by AZeD1(m): 5:44pm On Dec 28, 2016

ayobase:
Which brings us to the conclusion of government enacting law against power theft and making it renowned via media.

There are laws against power theft.

Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by AZeD1(m): 5:46pm On Dec 28, 2016

ayobase:
Nope, they will gain badly if well monitored and maintained.

You buy what you will consume, and not paying for what consumed.

Pay as you use!

But right now, the discos can and make money if you don't use power so why will you having a meter favour them?

Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by wirinet(m): 5:47pm On Dec 28, 2016

agabusta:
I just dont understand. Some people are alleging that it is because they will still make their money from estimated bills. And they in turn will not pay for the rejected power.

Why will they not reject electricity from the generating companies, when they can make money from estimated billing of customers, without having to pay the generating companies. This is the main reason the discos are refusing to provide smart meters to its customers.

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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by Tomoarika(m): 5:47pm On Dec 28, 2016

badman007:
Oh my days not Atiku again. That explains why they'd reject power. That man is good for nothing.

Obasanjo took over our Nitel while Atiku took our NEPA. That's what I call power sharing

Fyi its not the former VP. This is a different Atiku Abubakar.

Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by ayobase(m): 5:47pm On Dec 28, 2016

Abujaexpress:
If consumers bypass prepaid meter, it is the Discos's fault. What stopped them from deploying a more robust technology to check mate meter bypassing?

Why will a consumer (not customer) bypass in the first place - we all see reasons we are still here!

Change starts with individuals.

Average Nigerians will want to cheat no matter how - it is in the blood.

Instead of Discos wasting money on more robust technology to check make meter bypassing by cheating Nigerians and Discos' staff, why can't the government pass a law against power theft and make it well renowned.

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