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Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by latola05(m): 5:51pm On Dec 28, 2016
agabusta:
I think BEDC is the worst of them all.
IBEDC is the worst of them all. I live around Iyana Church-Lalupon road (Ibadan), all they are interested in is just to collect bribes from unmetered consumers and the community hardly enjoy 5hrs of electricity at a stretch in a whole week. They claim they are broke to invest in a capital project that will energize the communities concerned, I am yet to see electricity overnight for the past two years that I have been residing in this community. SHAME ON YOU IBEDC . It is now very glaring that the whole privatization exercise was full of fraud, the importers of generators and sellers of PMS dont care about the people, all they are after is their daily sales as a result of the darkness. The truth is that most of the DISCOs top executes are the true owners of generator selling companies.

The way out of this mess is for everyone to switch to SOLAR POWER energy, I dont know why the leaders dont want to take Nigerians out of darkness since 1960. What a country to live in without 24hrs electrictity....
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by ayobase(m): 5:51pm On Dec 28, 2016
AZeD1:
There are laws against power theft.
Then not pronounced like others - More reasons people don't care.
What are the penalties?
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by ayobase(m): 5:53pm On Dec 28, 2016
AZeD1:
But right now, the discos can and make money if you don't use power so why will you having a meter favour them?
Yes, from estimated billings, and you can refuse to pay, but you can't refuse to pay with prepaid metre in place.
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by ayobase(m): 5:59pm On Dec 28, 2016
latola05:
IBEDC is the worst of them all. I live around Iyana Church-Lalupon road (Ibadan), all they are interested in is just to collect bribes from unmetered consumers and the community hardly enjoy 5hrs of electricity at a stretch in a whole week. They claim they are broke to invest in a capital project that will energize the communities concerned, I am yet to see electricity overnight for the past two years that I have been residing in this community. SHAME ON YOU IBEDC . It is now very glaring that the whole privatization exercise was full of fraud, the importers of generators and sellers of PMS dont care about the people, all they are after is their daily sales as a result of the darkness. The truth is that most of the DISCOs top executes are the true owners of generator selling companies.

The way out of this mess is for everyone to switch to SOLAR POWER energy, I dont know why the leaders dont want to take Nigerians out of darkness since 1960. What a country to live in without 24hrs electrictity....
Change is gradual bro. And nobody wants to invest in whatever that won't yield.

A company will want to do more if happy about the returns from 5 hrs.

Stop giving those ruining marketers money without document to back it up.

Besides, you are also one of those sabotaging the progress of power sector if you have been giving money to remain connected without having account with the company.
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by EnigmaticEnigma(m): 6:01pm On Dec 28, 2016
Look at all these dudes saying "Fashola can't be blamed, he has no power", then why, why oh why is he there in the first placehuh

Do these sycophants ever ask themselves that questionhuh

Sigh.

I guess it would have been better for a monkey to be minister of power na, since according to them, he has no power to do anything undecided
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by EnigmaticEnigma(m): 6:03pm On Dec 28, 2016
rhames:

Fashola does not control any thing under the power aspect of his ministry
just imagine such reasoning undecided
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by EnigmaticEnigma(m): 6:03pm On Dec 28, 2016
AZeD1:
They are rejecting it because the can't afford to pay for it.
As of now, the Minister of Power is a more or less a ceremonial post because there's really nothing the power minister can do to the gencos and discos since they are private entities.
Ministry of Power is ceremonial huh

Chai undecided
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by AZeD1(m): 6:04pm On Dec 28, 2016
ayobase:
Yes, from estimated billings, and you can refuse to pay, but you can't refuse to pay with prepaid metre in place.
The disco balance the non payment by overcharging people they know will pay... That's why they are not in a hurry to ensure all customers have meters.

ayobase:
Then not pronounced like others - More reasons people don't care.

What are the penalties?
The penalties are truly severe. It's just that no one enforces them.
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by AZeD1(m): 6:05pm On Dec 28, 2016
EnigmaticEnigma:
Ministry of Power is ceremonial huh

Chai undecided
What is the work of the minister of power.
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by EnigmaticEnigma(m): 6:06pm On Dec 28, 2016
ayobase:
Why will a consumer (not customer) bypass in the first place - we all see reasons we are still here!

Change starts with individuals.

Average Nigerians will want to cheat no matter how - it is in the blood.

Instead of Discos wasting money on more robust technology to check make meter bypassing by cheating Nigerians and Discos' staff, why can't the government pass a law against power theft and make it well renowned.
Then they will tell you Power ministry is ceremonial, smh

Shouldn't it be Fashola championing this law, lobbying law makers on strict laws (like 30 years imprisonment) for stealing even 1kw of energyhuh

So why is Fashola there in the first placehuh
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by EnigmaticEnigma(m): 6:08pm On Dec 28, 2016
AZeD1:
What is the work of the minister of power.
Regulation and problem solving, not siting down in the office doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, because his post requires ZERO amount of work according to you.

He might as well not even go the office na, abihuh

Regulate, revoke licenses, lobby for reformation laws in the power sector. Don't just sit there doing NOTHING, sigh undecided
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by latola05(m): 6:09pm On Dec 28, 2016
ayobase:
Change is gradual bro. And nobody wants to invest in whatever that won't yield.

A company will want to do more if happy about the returns from 5 hrs.

Stop giving those ruining marketers money without document to back it up.

Besides, you are also one of those sabotaging the progress of power sector if you have been giving money to remain connected without having account with the company.
I mentioned that bribes are taken from unmetered consumers, I use a prepaid meter so there's no way to give out bribes. The challenge is educating the informal consumers on their rights and how they can realize the implications of giving out bribes., ordinarily, the meters should be free but the reverse is the case only in Nigeria.
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by Paentera(m): 6:12pm On Dec 28, 2016
AZeD1:
They are rejecting it because the can't afford to pay for it.
As of now, the Minister of Power is a more or less a ceremonial post because there's really nothing the power minister can do to the gencos and discos since they are private entities.
The article clearly indicates that the DISCOs are being supplied beyond their MYTO quota. What this translates to is that a DISCO that based its revenue on 200MW is now being supplied in excess of 200MW while the revenue from the same quantum of energy (200MW) isn't guaranteed considering that commercial losses (customers not paying their bills, connivance of DISCO staff & energy theives e.t.c) in such areas could be as high as 40%.

Effectively, where a DISCO is unable to meet its invoice obligations to TCN based on its fixed revenue stream based on a caped MYTO, it then would make sense that they reject extra energy "pushed" to them as their consumers will not pay for it yet, TCN will still bill them.

Its a rather convoluted industry.
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by grandstar(m): 6:12pm On Dec 28, 2016
agabusta:
The power problem in this country is multifaceted. It needs iron hand. Fashola seems inundated and too soft with these discos.

Mynd44, OAM4J, Lalasticlala please come and see this interesting report. Discos are turning down power supply despite that people are eagerly and prayerfully waiting to receive such electricity.

Something is definitely wrong somewhere with the power administration and management in this country.
The federal and state governments are owing the DISCOS 300billion? And most Nigerian consumers feel it's their birthright either not to pay for electricity, to steal outright or tamper and pay only a portion. Onless an iron hand is unleashed on all parties, the power sector will be in a qusndary
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by AZeD1(m): 6:19pm On Dec 28, 2016
EnigmaticEnigma:
Regulation and problem solving, not siting down in the office doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, because his post requires ZERO amount of work according to you.

He might as well not even go the office na, abihuh

Regulate, revoke licenses, lobby for reformation laws in the power sector. Don't just sit there doing NOTHING, sigh undecided
Licences / regulation are in the hands of the regulatory agency NERC.

We used to need a minister of power because the FG held sway in the power sector from start to finish, but that is not the case any more.

Read more and educate your self. You can start by checking the NERC website.
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by Paentera(m): 6:19pm On Dec 28, 2016
progress69:
We should go back to PHCN. Simple. All this excuses are very silly ones. The truth is that this discos were sold to family and friends, political associates and the likes, instead of competent firms who are experienced. Some of the owners of these discos are actually major importers of Generators and petroleum products.
Totally untrue. Such comments were woven in beer parlours
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by zicoraads: 6:23pm On Dec 28, 2016
ayobase:
My brother, just pray AEDC get their returns or else you go back to former days.

Nigerlites and not paying bills is like that... - wey that Zuma picture.

Every daily supply to Minna is being copied to some personalities.
This statement 'Nigerlites don't pay bills' was debunked by their manager that day. Because this is what some people would tell you, so we wanted to hear from the horse's mouth. Na only we dey for Nigeria?

Nigerlites are the most peaceful, law abiding people, ever. I always wondered why some people said it's because we don't pay bills. Rather, the man was giving an epistle about the issues surrounding power in Nigeria.

No one is going back. They were told this is just the first leg, and that if things start sliding again, they should expect another. I think it has to do with vigilance. Nigerians have this laid back approach to issues like this, which is why we are easily taken for granted. If Nigerians start marching to those in power with various demands pertaining to what ought to be ours, they would surely sit up and listen.
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by EnigmaticEnigma(m): 6:23pm On Dec 28, 2016
AZeD1:
Licences / regulation are in the hands of the regulatory agency NERC.

We used to need a minister of power because the FG held sway in the power sector from start to finish, but that is not the case any more.

Read more and educate your self. You can start by checking the NERC website.
Look, you can always make yourself useful, especially when you have so much clout as the freaking "MINISTER OF POWER".

It's simple, if he as useless as you say he is and he possesses even an ounce of integrity, then he should step down and save the nation some much needed income. Else, he should get to work, even if it is just as a lobbyist with that clout, he would get so much done.

My Dad was once in those circles and he was an excellent lobbyist to the point that he would get backlogs of issues that needed authorization from a different "department", sorted just by lobbying those with the direct authorization needed to solve his "departments" problems. He didn't just sit down, fold his arms and say there was nothing he could do.
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by Donsammi(m): 6:27pm On Dec 28, 2016
Sultanchidi:
Electricity supply in some parts of benin is a disaster, 3 hours on 3 hours off. Sometimes full 24hrs no light
Jesus see suffering . here there's light steadily .. the just took it 15min since 2 days back they took it last . b4 8.pm the light will be back . AEDC
#abuja
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by hero2000: 6:29pm On Dec 28, 2016
PentiumPro:
The reason is simple.
Any Disco that cannot reasonably and effectively metered the electricity it distributes will not be able to pay the Gencos and will just keep accumulating debt. The issue is worsened now with the fact that 1, estimated billing is becoming difficult to collect, 2, it's almost now illegal to disconnect owning customers.
The ultimate solution is to METERED ALL ELECTRICITY CONSUMERS.. Anything outside that will not work
Your solution submission is fantastic! And I agree with you 100%.

The OP post is a complete misnomer. How can a seller have customers who are demanding for his product and yet limit the amount of goods he is supplied?

Only 2 reasons can be adduced.

1. If his customers won't pay after he has supplied them. And this EXACTLY IS WHAT PREPAID METERS ARE MEANT TO SOLVE COMPLETLY.

2. If his goods get stolen. Now this is the situation of by-passing meters by prepaid customers! Many of us Nigerians are thieves. The DISCOS try to steal from customers; the customers try to steal from DISCOS too. That is why it has not been well with our country. We need to reduce this cycle of cheating.

Although citizens ought to be honest enough to keep from illegal meter bypass, the DISCOS must device an effective means of tracking down cheating by-passers! What are all the professors of Electrical electronics engineering doing to help meter bypassing!? If with all their years of 'research' they cannot come up with any solution, then what a big SHAME!
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by rhames(m): 6:31pm On Dec 28, 2016
EnigmaticEnigma:
just imagine such reasoning undecided
Tell me which aspect is he controlling? Generation, Transmission or distribution?
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by Nobody: 6:33pm On Dec 28, 2016
agabusta:
I just dont understand. Some people are alleging that it is because they will still make their money from estimated bills. And they in turn will not pay for the rejected power.
Van you think of any other reason than this?
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by SycophanticGoat: 6:38pm On Dec 28, 2016
preacherz:
90% of prepaid meter users in the Country bypassed their meter

Now ask your self if you are a part of this 90% before making hypocritical comments


Udo
Rubbish and silly excuse! I mean, whose job is it to fish out and prosecute the criminals who bypass prepaid meters? Is it my duty/job to do it for them? Nonsense!
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by persius555(m): 6:48pm On Dec 28, 2016
I noticed IKEDC was not mentoned . The power sector is slowly maturing and adjusting yo the economic realities on ground. The players just need to be creative and device means to make the business sustainable. The good thing is that we now have a transparent (seemingly) power sector unlike what we had in the previous regime where the policies and management of these national assets were shrouded in secrecy and contious denial.
The stakeholders need to be proactive and device means of generating more revenue. What is Paramount at the moment is for the govt to put in place a policy framework that will encourage FDI into these sector. As more FDI comes in so also will professional expertise come in.
Transparency is really, really key. Moreover, the purchasing power of customers among the discos cannot be at parallel with each other and at such rates will have to differ just like the rates differ I'm other come untried too.
Slowly, we are approaching blower sufficiency.
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by murmee: 6:57pm On Dec 28, 2016
Abujaexpress:
If consumers bypass prepaid meter, it is the Discos's fault. What stopped them from deploying a more robust technology to check mate meter bypassing?
Thank you. If they begin to punish those bypassing electricity, the system will work. But they need to provide more meters to people and then focus on checkmating offenders. The truth of the matter is that the Discos know they won't supply light so they don't like to install meters. With estimated bills, people are forced to pay whether they use light or not. Nigerians should reject estimated bills and say No Prepaid meter, No payment! Simple.
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by yommen: 6:58pm On Dec 28, 2016
AZeD1:
They are rejecting it because the can't afford to pay for it.
As of now, the Minister of Power is a more or less a ceremonial post because there's really nothing the power minister can do to the gencos and discos since they are private entities.
Bro, you are the only person looking at the case from a realistic point of view. Nigerians just blame Fashola but forget that Jonathan already sold the system out. And the truth is that when the discos know that the generality of Nigerians are not ready to pay( I know what I am saying) for supply used(a lot reconnect when disconnected while theft of electricity through meter by-pass is high), its better they reject to areas that give them problems.
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by progress69: 7:03pm On Dec 28, 2016
Reference:
Sentiments as usual. I can only reply objective arguments on the subject matter: why power is rejected. And for your information it is normal in the energy industry worldwide. You simply cannot take what you cannot use. If you are not making profit, you are in debt, the consequences of which are worse. Transysco should study the pattern and advice the GENCOS to trim output whenever uptake is weak if not, it is they who will go bankrupt.
There is nothing sentimental about my post. Except u don't know the meaning of sentiments. The useless discos did their feasibility studies before calling their friends and families to lobby for them. After mismanagement and Corruption within their own system they are rejecting power with the excuse of not being able to pay. Are u using light free of charge? Are thry not the ones who fought for increase in tarrifs. Will people not pay for the ligbt distributed? Fact is PHCN was performing better than these thieves, and if they can't cope, the privatisation should be reversed an competent companies Should be given the opportunity to invest. What comparisons are u making with "world wide" are u talking of countries that enjoy 24hrs electricity a round the year? Are u comparing it to a country struggling to even give an hr of electricity yet some clowns are rejecting the ones being sent to them. Tmr they will blame gencos when attacked for poor electricity. U are the one not objective here. That should be clear to u.
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by progress69: 7:04pm On Dec 28, 2016
Paentera:
Totally untrue. Such comments were woven in beer parlours
Your opinion, and i care less
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by yommen: 7:09pm On Dec 28, 2016
bettercreature:
A serious government would have fired Fasola because of this report
You just carry your hand and type rubbish. Do you think at all? What is Fashola's fault in this now? Your previous government sold it out. Its now in the hands of a business man. The business man has only refused to supply to a group of people that already owe him huge amount and are not ready to pay him. So is it Fashola that will pay for electricity you and your community members want to use but are not ready to pay for?

Habba!
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by yommen: 7:12pm On Dec 28, 2016
koxi:
Why won't they reject energy when at the end of the month they slap customers with ridiculous and outrageously dangerous electricity bills...?

Sometimes I just begin to wonder...this fashola that they gave power ministry to, I'm starting to believe he's too LUKEWARM! !!
low thinking, low output.
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by yommen: 7:15pm On Dec 28, 2016
AZeD1:
Fired Fashola because a private company says they don't want a product? Is the government paying for it?
Dont mind the worstcreature.
Re: Eight Discos Turns Down 1,337MWH From TCN Despite Erratic Supply To Consumers by yommen: 7:21pm On Dec 28, 2016
valuedammy:
Need to know the reason of rejection while the country is darkness. This country na zoo.
Yes!!! And you are one of the animals in the zoo.
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