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Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 2:25pm On Dec 28, 2016
GreatNegro:
I think he is referring to rural areas in Igbo land, to be frank with you most of them are economically deserted . Last year I visited my hometown could you believe that there was no single male youth in that town. When I went to church I only saw old people and small children staying with them. I was really touched and I have made up my mind to help correct such anomaly.
There is what they call countryside.
They are usually economically dead. Everywhere can't be bustling and hustling. The mofo you quoted have some of their capital cities economically dead like Osogbo and Adoekiti
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by BabaRamota1980: 3:07pm On Dec 28, 2016
GreatNegro:
Go and read, The making of an African legend: The Biafra story , by Frederick Forsyth, chapter 8, The Character of Biafra. I quoted the passage from there. As for the structures, all of it was destroyed during the war. We just re-started economic development after the war.
Forsyth was a Biafran sympathiser his writing cannot be unbiased. Not only that, Forsyth had no clue what was in other regions since his stay was exclusive to Biafra, therefore he had no idea that the amenities and attributes he embellishly glorified were not sub-par to the true and independently acknowledged developments in other regions of that period.

Moreover, if we are going to refer to books and authors, to your one Frederick Forsyth, there are hundreds of books, magazines, documentaries that showcase the greatness of achievements in the Yoruba West. Pa Awolowo himself made a declaration pre-independence and infront of European press corps that in just ten years he had provided for his region and people what the white colonialists had capacity but failed to do in their one hundred years presence. After that he invited the press corps to go around and see for themselves. This is how the world knew of the FIRSTs of social and urban infrastructures in Yorubaland. The world was awed!

Lets put writings aside. How is it possible places like Kano, Kaduna, Lokoja, can have pictures showing their cities, towns, villages and dated pre-war era but you in East have none. Very baffling.
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by Anago5000: 3:28pm On Dec 28, 2016
Schematics:
Chyke the abakaleke bastard. I just dey pity you because of the guinea worm that is eating you up..
thun.nderr fire you and chyke okolo.you think i am here to play with you abi? try nonsense and see what will hit you next.ewu
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by GreatNegro(op): 3:47pm On Dec 28, 2016
BabaRamota1980:
Forsyth was a Biafran sympathiser his writing cannot be unbiased. Not only that, Forsyth had no clue what was in other regions since his stay was exclusive to Biafra, therefore he had no idea that the amenities and attributes he embellishly glorified were not sub-par to the true and independently acknowledged developments in other regions of that period.

Moreover, if we are going to refer to books and authors, to your one Frederick Forsyth, there are hundreds of books, magazines, documentaries that showcase the greatness of achievements in the Yoruba West. Pa Awolowo himself made a declaration pre-independence and infront of European press corps that in just ten years he had provided for his region and people what the white colonialists had capacity but failed to do in their one hundred years presence. After that he invited the press corps to go around and see for themselves. This is how the world knew of the FIRSTs of social and urban infrastructures in Yorubaland. The world was awed!

Lets put writings aside. How is it possible places like Kano, Kaduna, Lokoja, can have pictures showing their cities, towns, villages and dated pre-war era but you in East have none. Very baffling.
Even if it is written by your fellow zombified afonja or nigeria sympertizer you will still not believe. We Igbos doesn't need your consent to develop our region.
Who tell you that we have no pre war pictures? Have you been to Biafran section in UNN library or any govt library in the East to make a research about it, before drawing your illogical conclusion.
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by T9ksy(m): 3:51pm On Dec 28, 2016
GreatNegro:
You said so.
It's not rocket science, na!

If you deluded folks are able to develop your purported enemies region (as alleged by you lot) then developing your fatherland should be a walk in the park for such "hardworking" (sic) people.

In case, you still don't get it-THINK BIAFRA. GO HOME AND DEVELOP YOUR ANCESTRAL LAND.
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by BabaRamota1980: 4:03pm On Dec 28, 2016
GreatNegro:
Even if it is written by your fellow zombified afonja or nigeria sympertizer you will still not believe. We Igbos doesn't need your consent to develop our region.
Who tell you that we have no pre war pictures? Have you been to Biafran section in UNN library or any govt library in the East to make a research about it, before drawing your illogical conclusion.
You are doing a great job with your thread. Your brothers are responding to it positively but there are still very troubling concerns in what you all are talking about resettlement of your homeland. You are purposely deceitful, all of you here talking about Think Home, Build Home.

You will need Yoruba to ground you so you can think straight and steer away from pending doom as you Think Home.

I do not have to go to University of anywhere or any museum to see developments of other regions in their pre-war state. Why are you prescribing a visit to a museum to see what your region was like, are there no online sites where the collections are available?
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by GreatNegro(op): 4:03pm On Dec 28, 2016
T9ksy:
THINK HOME, INVEST HOME AND DEVELOP YOUR ANCESTRAL HOMELAND.
That's the awareness I and my fellow Igbos is trying to create.
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by T9ksy(m): 4:08pm On Dec 28, 2016
GreatNegro:
That's the awareness I and my fellow Igbos is trying to create.
I look forward to the day when such obvious "awareness" will bear fruition though i ain't holding my breadth. grin
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by obailala(m): 4:15pm On Dec 28, 2016
So much wisdom packed into a single short speech...
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by SGTScatter: 4:27pm On Dec 28, 2016
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Anago5000:
thun.nderr fire you and chyke okolo.you think i am here to play with you abi? try nonsense and see what will hit you next.ewu
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Your details have got to our HQ. Now come here and kneel down you bastard!
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by chibuzorAbia: 4:39pm On Dec 28, 2016
Ikpeazu go and sit down jare, lagos state and Yoruba land is too sweet.
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by Anago5000: 4:42pm On Dec 28, 2016
SGTScatter:



Your details have got to our HQ. Now come here and kneel down you bastard!
egbon Balogun.welcome my niggur .hw are you?.merry xmas
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by SGTScatter: 4:46pm On Dec 28, 2016
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Anago5000:
egbon Balogun.welcome my niggur .hw are you?.merry xmas
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Obey the last order. Stay away and don't ever insult General Chino. I repeat obey the last order!
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by Schematics: 4:50pm On Dec 28, 2016
You are playing with Tiger's tail.. cheesy


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Anago5000:
thun.nderr fire you and chyke okolo.you think i am here to play with you abi? try nonsense and see what will hit you next.ewu
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Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by Anago5000: 4:53pm On Dec 28, 2016
SGTScatter:
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Obey the last order. Stay away and don't ever insult General Chino. I repeat obey the last order!
thun.nnderr fire u balogun.i repeat thu.nnderr fire u .look at this n11tw1t giving me order.you dey crazee ni?.chino is my boy i mess him up when i want to.now fck off my mention before i go change am for you now
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by SGTScatter: 4:56pm On Dec 28, 2016
Arizona123, that thunder will soon destroy you. I have arrived for you on this board. You will run like you did before. Bastard!

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Anago5000:
thun.nnderr fire u balogun.i repeat thu.nnderr fire u .look at this n11tw1t giving me order.you dey crazee ni?.chino is my boy i mess him up when i want to.now fck off my mention before i go change am for you now
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Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by GreatNegro(op): 5:15pm On Dec 28, 2016
chibuzorAbia:
Ikpeazu go and sit down jare, lagos state and Yoruba land is too sweet.
You this zombified afonja hiding under Igbo moniker. Please don't derail this thread, if you have nothing to offer.
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by GreatNegro(op): 5:19pm On Dec 28, 2016
SGTScatter:
Arizona123, that thunder will soon destroy you. I have arrived for you on this board. You will run like you did before. Bastard!

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Guys chill abeg! This thread is for an important issue, please don't derail it. Thanks
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by GreatNegro(op): 5:40pm On Dec 28, 2016
BabaRamota1980:
You are doing a great job with your thread. Your brothers are responding to it positively but there are still very troubling concerns in what you all are talking about resettlement of your homeland. You are purposely deceitful, all of you here talking about Think Home, Build Home.

You will need Yoruba to ground you so you can think straight and steer away from pending doom as you Think Home.

I do not have to go to University of anywhere or any museum to see developments of other regions in their pre-war state. Why are you prescribing a visit to a museum to see what your region was like, are there no online sites where the collections are available?
I am not talking about resettling (there is no place in Igboland that is not under human occupation), but unlocking the economic potential of Igboland which inturn will prevent Igbo youths from leaving Igboland and entice others to return parts or all of their investments.

WE IGBOS DON'T NEED YORUBAS HELP TO DEVELOP OUR LAND, IS IT BY FORCE? Keep your negative thought to yourself. Developing our region won't lead to any doom.

As for the pre-war state I will make some research about it, though that won't stop the need to economically develop Igboland.
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by omonnakoda: 5:47pm On Dec 28, 2016
Abeg o na who go come dey develop Leegos when una go?? If na joke make e stop na na
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by NOETHNICITY(m): 8:43pm On Dec 28, 2016
Eastactivist:
Truth provocative question
Wrong English!!!!
If I go into ur archives now I will dig our tens of ur post where u ve called Buhari a 'dullard'. Yet here u re manifesting serious signs of being the real dullard.
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by Eastactivist: 9:01pm On Dec 28, 2016
NOETHNICITY:
Wrong English!!!!
If I go into ur archives now I will dig our tens of ur post where u ve called Buhari a 'dullard'. Yet here u re manifesting serious signs of being the real dullard.
Correct the obvious. Or stay dumb forever
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by PDJT: 9:13pm On Dec 28, 2016
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Dedetwo:
If the Ndigbo have geographical expression which they can call home then they can think home. Economic power without political power is a wild goose chase.
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You haven't got a clue what Economic power mean.
Look for the book called: " Basic Economics" by Dr. Thomas Sowell, of the Hoover Institute, and study.
You can see a few of his clips on YouTube as well.

Personally, I would advise our people to stay away from politics. There is no record anywhere in the world where a people moved from poverty to affluence.
Not one record.
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by nonsobaba: 9:28pm On Dec 28, 2016
It is funny that this wonderful speech is coming from a serial failure like Ikpeazu under whose care Aba has become a wasteland with decayed infrastructure.
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by NOETHNICITY(m): 9:28pm On Dec 28, 2016
Eastactivist:
Correct the obvious. Or stay dumb forever
I ordinarily wud ve corrected u without 1st giving u some strokes of the cane, but for ur constant reference to Buhari as a dullard, u more than deserve this lashing.
Its thought provoking questions.
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by Eastactivist: 9:37pm On Dec 28, 2016
NOETHNICITY:
I ordinarily wud ve corrected u without 1st giving u some strokes of the cane, but for ur constant reference to Buhari as a dullard, u more than deserve this lashing.
Its thought provoking questions.
Is not in anyway near my intent. Truth provocative question

But, I've seen you, Now swerve
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by NOETHNICITY(m): 9:58pm On Dec 28, 2016
Eastactivist:
Is not in anyway near my intent. Truth provocative question

But, I've seen you, Now swerve
I knew u wud prove to be stubbornly uninformed.
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by MayorofLagos(m): 11:01pm On Dec 28, 2016
I took time to read and understand each post on this thread.

OP,
Ikpeazu captured some but not all the factors that created deficits and detriments in Iboland.

When there is conflict between two opposing forces you bring in a mediator to use truth and reconciliation to address grievances and seek a middle way to reset and restart relations and restore peace. Truth and reconciliation as a tool for peacemaking is equally useful for intra- ethnic divisions as is the case with Iboland.

Your leaders have spent decades looking in the wrong direction for what troubles you. You have fundamental cultural beliefs that is out of alignment with the inherited system of governance left to this nation by colonial Britain.

In addition to the fundamental cultural difference, you were also at a disadvatage in the choice of Zik as your representative leader.

These two pointers are at the root of your problem. Other issues that Ikpeazu mentioned are just surface events and offshoots from incompatibility of your culture and leadership into the system and style of governance established for the sovereingty.

This is not to say other regions have a perfect startup, but it is worth noting that a continuity was possible for them when sovereingty transitioned from colonial leadership to indigenous leadership and their learning curve was very small because their cultures and traditional statehood had served as headstart all along. In fact for Yoruba specifically the colonial system was a retrogade from its traditional customs of state rulership and check and balance for urban evolution and state civilization.
Awolowo proved this politically and socially. Babaramota already alluded to that fact where Awo confronted the colonial Governor and charged him with incompetency.

For instance all the contemporaries of 50s and 60s youth leadership schooled in England, exception was Zik, who schooled in America.

Zik could find culturally compatible sentiments in the American system of governance where no central authority or monarchy exists.

His peers in Yorubaland and Hausaland found culturally compatible society in England. They saw the system they inherited as one and the same with their ethnic society. For Zik on the other hand there was clash of values. He could not reconcile Ibo society into the greater Nigeria. This aspect played into the push for forceful takeover and reshape of the whole country from ground up.

Another factor in the fundamental problem is the custom and beliefs in birthrights. The diala can buy land and attain community or clan leadership and can represent the community and marry freely....the osu is forbidden from any of these privileges of birth. When it dawned on osus that in Yorubaland they are equal to dialas and no one here forbids them anything or set no-go limits on them, plus the fact Yorubaland is a land of milk & honey....they abandoned their condemned life in Iboland sought refuge in Yoruba. Many of them rose to prosperity and far above their freeborn peers. This factor alone drained Iboland of headcount faster than anything else.


As you plan a resettlement (that guy was correct by callintg it resettlement, and im going to add to it...) and "rehabilitation" of Iboland, start thinking what it means and changes needed to make every Ibo a freeborn on your homeland. You also need to define and reassess if you want to remain as member in this culturally incompatible system of governance.
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by Nobody: 11:40am On Dec 29, 2016
MayorofLagos:
I took time to read and understand each post on this thread.

OP,
Ikpeazu captured some but not all the factors that created deficits and detriments in Iboland.

When there is conflict between two opposing forces you bring in a mediator to use truth and reconciliation to address grievances and seek a middle way to reset and restart relations and restore peace. Truth and reconciliation as a tool for peacemaking is equally useful for intra- ethnic divisions as is the case with Iboland.

Your leaders have spent decades looking in the wrong direction for what troubles you. You have fundamental cultural beliefs that is out of alignment with the inherited system of governance left to this nation by colonial Britain.

In addition to the fundamental cultural difference, you were also at a disadvatage in the choice of Zik as your representative leader.

These two pointers are at the root of your problem. Other issues that Ikpeazu mentioned are just surface events and offshoots from incompatibility of your culture and leadership into the system and style of governance established for the sovereingty.

This is not to say other regions have a perfect startup, but it is worth noting that a continuity was possible for them when sovereingty transitioned from colonial leadership to indigenous leadership and their learning curve was very small because their cultures and traditional statehood had served as headstart all along. In fact for Yoruba specifically the colonial system was a retrogade from its traditional customs of state rulership and check and balance for urban evolution and state civilization.
Awolowo proved this politically and socially. Babaramota already alluded to that fact where Awo confronted the colonial Governor and charged him with incompetency.

For instance all the contemporaries of 50s and 60s youth leadership schooled in England, exception was Zik, who schooled in America.

Zik could find culturally compatible sentiments in the American system of governance where no central authority or monarchy exists.

His peers in Yorubaland and Hausaland found culturally compatible society in England. They saw the system they inherited as one and the same with their ethnic society. For Zik on the other hand there was clash of values. He could not reconcile Ibo society into the greater Nigeria. This aspect played into the push for forceful takeover and reshape of the whole country from ground up.

Another factor in the fundamental problem is the custom and beliefs in birthrights. The diala can buy land and attain community or clan leadership and can represent the community and marry freely....the osu is forbidden from any of these privileges of birth. When it dawned on osus that in Yorubaland they are equal to dialas and no one here forbids them anything or set no-go limits on them, plus the fact Yorubaland is a land of milk & honey....they abandoned their condemned life in Iboland sought refuge in Yoruba. Many of them rose to prosperity and far above their freeborn peers. This factor alone drained Iboland of headcount faster than anything else.


As you plan a resettlement (that guy was correct by callintg it resettlement, and im going to add to it...) and "rehabilitation" of Iboland, start thinking what it means and changes needed to make every Ibo a freeborn on your homeland. You also need to define and reassess if you want to remain as member in this culturally incompatible system of governance.
People like you have no shame, dignity.
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by Anago5000: 6:01pm On Jan 03, 2017
SGTScatter:
Arizona123, that thunder will soon destroy you. I have arrived for you on this board. You will run like you did before. Bastard!

[s][/s]
balogun balogun. stay out of my way. for the last time. I can shred you to pieces if you don't heed to my order. to be forwarned is to be forarmed
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by Anago5000: 6:04pm On Jan 03, 2017
Schematics:
You are playing with Tiger's tail.. cheesy


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onye ara. chukwu kpo gi oku chukwunonso. you think I was playing when I said I will mess you up? you can go ahead and tag other insurgents. I full ground
Re: How We Can Develop Ala-Igbo - Okezie Ikpeazu by Schematics: 6:55pm On Jan 03, 2017
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Anago5000:
onye ara. chukwu kpo gi oku chukwunonso. you think I was playing when I said I will mess you up? you can go ahead and tag other insurgents. I full ground
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Okoro Chyke, why are you gittery? They are coming for you..LOL!

SGTScatter Subway101
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