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Omudia11:
What you new agers think you know is what the Jesus Christ said over 2 thousand years ago. Jesus Christ said "ye are gods and all of you are children of the most high". Do you now see that we Christians know that we are gods?

However, there is a GOD above all gods. The creator of the universe.

thank you! and my deduction is that we are all fragmented energy from one source, our source!!! with is perhaps God...the universe is God and vice versa shikina

ifenes:
Self denial is what I sense here. If you say "like God", then I guess you must have seen a God aside yourself.

God personally revealed Himself to mankind through Jesus Christ

Anyway , I don't need to see God in order to understand how God is .

God is intelligent : we've observed intelligent beings creating orderly complex systems

God is immaterial : man has an immaterial part of him called the spirit

God is social : God can interact with man through a theophany - a visible manifestation of Itself . And the consubstantial hypothases can commune among themselves as they are distinct .

God has a mind : God has an unembodied mind and man has a mind of his own too .

AlvanT:
thank you! and my deduction is that we are all fragmented energy from one source, our source!!! with is perhaps God...the universe is God and vice versa shikina

The universe is a contingent being , an open system that depends on Its source God - a non contingent being that cannot not exist because of the necessity of its own nature .

The universe is NOT an isolated system and cannot have existed in an eternal past because by now its usable energy would have run down .

Ergo, the universe cannot be God .

KingEbukaNaija:
Billyonaire and Alvan T are the same person . AlvanT acts seemingly as his fidus Achates to cozen people into thinking that Billyonaire's doctrines are personally effective . Same writing style , same way of thinking ... boom !

cc :4evergod , felixomor , 4kings , richirich713

Are you okay ? Why would I use alternative monika ? Am I selling handout ? Am I taking offering ? Some of you dont even have common-sense. If AlvanT and I are saying the same thing, then pay a fucking attention if you will, if not, then stop the accusation. Its not only funny, its an insult. You cant just make statements like that carelessly.

Billyonaire:
Are you okay ? Why would I use alternative monika ? Am I selling handout ? Am I taking offering ? Some of you dont even have common-sense.

Lol . Ok sorry

Please respond with your rebuttal

KingEbukaNaija:
The universe is a contingent being , an open system that depends on Its source God - a non contingent being that cannot not exist because of the necessity of its own nature .

The universe is NOT an isolated system and cannot have existed in an eternal past because by now its usable energy would have run down .

Ergo, the universe cannot be God .

how can energy run down? we know energy change forms... and we're not isolated... haven't you pondered what could be at the other side of blackholes? our universe is not the first of it's kind, it'll come to an end and others will replace it...it's a cycle,make more sense to me than your thesis bro IMO

KingEbukaNaija:
Lol . Ok sorry

Please respond with your rebuttal

You have derailed the thread, and those who would have hitherto learnt a thing or two today have missed it. Cos you have ruined my state of mind. We have these lectures almost every Sundays and we are happy with our researches.

AlvanT:
we are Gods and he's teaching about having higher vibrations are quite true...at least I now know how to deal with fear that's a milestone I've reached since I started following him up

tell me how to deal with fear... am willing to learn that sir

AlvanT:
how can energy run down? we know energy change forms... and we're not isolated... haven't you pondered what could be at the other side of blackholes? our universe is not the first of it's kind, it'll come to an end and others will replace it...it's a cycle,make more sense to me than your thesis bro IMO

All scientific evidence show that such has no basis in reality. Its hypothetical , fictional any word that suggests that the theory is chimerical would be a befitting description .

If we have infinite regress of causes , we cannot explain anything . No antecedent initial conditions . It has also been proven to be impossible .

Its an escape route made up by atheists , a total affront to science .

Like physicist Vilenkin said : There is no escape, they(cosmologists) have to face the problem of a cosmic beginning

Billyonaire:
You have derailed the thread, and those who would have hitherto learnt a thing or two today have missed it. Cos you have ruined my state of mind. We have these lectures almost every Sundays and we are happy with our researches.

Learnt ? As in imbibe and understand knowledge ? And you have lectures every Sunday ?

What in God's name have you been teaching people ? That there is no God , the universe is all there is and God knows what else . All these have no basis in reality . They are false , deceptive and manipulative .

I ruined your state of mind ? True knowledge shatters faith of course . And a proper response is to seek true knowledge and not what is pleasing to your senses .

Please refrain from promulgating false ideas and spreading false hope .

I have books on these things you are teaching from raelism to esotericism and what have you . I just know them for the sake of knowing and not being dogmatic about them .

Deejay1000:
tell me how to deal with fear... am willing to learn that sir

fear comes in many forms sometimes we might have a certain discomfort without even diagnosing it to be fear... but more importantly we have to KNOW it's fear, know what triggers it and how to address it...for example you're scared of snakes? get to know about them,what do you fear about them? their bites or terrifying appearance? research about them,you'll find out that very little percentage of victims die out of snake bite, how to administer first aid,antivenin and so on...just like swimming first start from the shallow part to the deepest so you don't get overwhelmed... from watching snakes in documentaries you can advance to handling harmless ones on your palms,see? you've conquered it!!! what I feared most was death until I understood that death is not as bad as we paint it just a transitional phase...fear is uncertainty of the "unknown"=ignorance, ignorance is darkness that breeds fear when you flash the light of knowledge it disappears,no wonder when learning comes to an end we call it the DARK AGE...(I stand to be corrected we are all learners)

KingEbukaNaija:
All scientific evidence show that such has no basis in reality. Its hypothetical , fictional any word that suggests that the theory is chimerical would be a befitting description .

If we have infinite regress of causes , we cannot explain anything . No antecedent initial conditions . It has also been proven to be impossible .

Its an escape route made up by atheists , a total affront to science .

Like physicist Vilenkin said : There is no escape, they(cosmologists) have to face the problem of a cosmic beginning

hypothetical, fictional, pseudoscience call it whatever colorful name Nikola Tesla was mad for being ahead of his days,same as Einstein... I don't subscribe to mainstream sciences... You guys will catch up,I know you even doubt the existence of teleportation technology...here are but a few theories that science tagged "fictional" only for them to realize later on;

Rogue waves which were considered myths by science until 1995.

Earthquake light.

String theory.

Steady state theory.

Meteorites

Flight by machines heavier than air...

Ball lightning

Chronobiology and chronomedicine

Effects of moon phases on humans....

AlvanT:
hypothetical, fictional, pseudoscience call it whatever colorful name Nikola Tesla was mad for being ahead of his days,same as Einstein... I don't subscribe to mainstream sciences... You guys will catch up,I know you even doubt the existence of teleportation technology...here are but a few theories that science tagged "fictional" only for them to realize later on;

Rogue waves which were considered myths by science until 1995.

Earthquake light.

String theory.

Steady state theory.

Meteorites

Flight by machines heavier than air...

Ball lightning

Chronobiology and chronomedicine

Effects of moon phases on humans....

Red herring

You really need to understand how arguments are being made .

You don't subscribe to mainstream science then on what exactly would your hypothesis be tested ? On the minds of innocent people ?

Billyonaire:
Are you okay ? Why would I use alternative monika ? Am I selling handout ? Am I taking offering ? Some of you dont even have common-sense. If AlvanT and I are saying the same thing, then pay a fucking attention if you will, if not, then stop the accusation. Its not only funny, its an insult. You cant just make statements like that carelessly.

Rotf You sef, why you no gree sell handout! Biko, pass the offering basket abeg! I want to sow towards your ministry

KingEbukaNaija:
Red herring

You really need to understand how arguments are being made .

You don't subscribe to mainstream science then on what exactly would you hypothesis be tested ? On the minds of innocent people ?

what I meant is on your threshold of thoughts...why have NASA hidden the knowledge of ETs from the public it's just obvious the scientific knowledge the mainstream possess is "just enough" of what they want you to know...some inventors were killed before their inventions saw the light of the day,their is a pace the mainstream science wants to stay and we freethinkers opined out..."imagination is better than knowledge"- Einstein...so technologies might seem funny or alien but have you though about the possibility? I agree with the saying "man cannot think outside creation"...scientists have replicated light sabers from Star wars "fictional" universe how much more? you suppose understand were I dey come from na

KingEbukaNaija you don't have to always spar whenever someone is discussing a view that seem to contradict yours. Haven't you noticed that your arguments are always stereotypical? Moreover your views & beliefs could be grossly wrong yet you fight so hard to defend it and disprove other contrasting views with it.

DeSepiero:
KingEbukaNaija you don't have to always spar whenever someone is discussing a view that seem to contradict yours. Haven't you noticed that your arguments are always stereotypical? Moreover your views & beliefs could be grossly wrong yet you fight so hard to defend it and disprove other contrasting views with it.

Oh no ... I just play the atheist's game . It looks like the atheist is nettled by the taste of his own medicine .

KingEbukaNaija:
Learnt ? As in imbibe and understand knowledge ? And you have lectures every Sunday ?

What in God's name have you been teaching people ? That there is no God , the universe is all there is and God knows what else . All these have no basis in reality . They are false , deceptive and manipulative .

I ruined your state of mind ? True knowledge shatters faith of course . And a proper response is to seek true knowledge and not what is pleasing to your senses .

Please refrain from promulgating false ideas and spreading false hope .

I have books on these things you are teaching from raelism to esotericism and what have you . I just know them for the sake of knowing and not being dogmatic about them .

I dont wanna talk much here. But just know that I launched my first News Magazine that covers Continental Africa at 26yrs, after Print Media, I attempted to launch TV Station and Radio Station but was not issued the License by the Ministry of Information. It was frustrating so I aborted and started investing on other projects. I am telling you this boastful looking story because I noticed that some of you respect the books than the Authors. If the Authors of the books you are reading and drooling are on Nairaland, you will probably have insulted them too. Just so you know, Nairaland is the only Nigerian website I sign up apart from my Online banking. So, please, I do not welcome insults. If you disagree with my postulate its okay, but if there is any doubts in your quest, I can confidently explain to you. I kept quiet from answering your queries cos it doesnt seem you are interested in knowing beyond what you know and that is totally fine. Do not think you know anything, stay hungry for knowledge and consider yourself foolish so you can give room for more knowledge.

Writing these stuff out here isnt easy for me. I clearly beg to stay alive after decoding nature. It is only recently we are allowed access to explore and study these stuff. A lot of organizations lock down the knowledge and sell manuscripts to make billions. But even at the threat of my physical existence I am ready to write them down here. As long as Nairaland lives, people will stumble on this writing and gain some understanding and continue from where I stopped.

Please do not insult my intelligence anymore, I have more books in my library than most people but I believe there is a lot more for me to learn and share, some of which are not published here on this physical dimension. You don see spirit before ? You don Soul Travel before and be in Astral Laboratory and study with sages some who have passed on ?

Lets respect ourselves abeg, cos the things I see, you cant see and be able to sleep at night.

Thanks.

KingEbukaNaija:
Red herring

You really need to understand how arguments are being made .

You don't subscribe to mainstream science then on what exactly would your hypothesis be tested ? On the minds of innocent people ?

The fallacy fallacy...

DeSepiero:
KingEbukaNaija you don't have to always spar whenever someone is discussing a view that seem to contradict yours. Haven't you noticed that your arguments are always stereotypical? Moreover your views & beliefs could be grossly wrong yet you fight so hard to defend it and disprove other contrasting views with it.

He must always be right well na cognitive dissonance day worry am...

KingEbukaNaija:
Oh no ... I just play the atheist's game . It looks like the atheist is nettled by the taste of his own medicine .

I find this quite immature and unnecessary.

parisienne:
Rotf You sef, why you no gree sell handout! Biko, pass the offering basket abeg! I want to sow towards your ministry

hahahahahaah, Abeg use the money buy Indomie and give to Motherless babies home and pls dont forget to take pictures with the motherless babies and show on facebook so they can know you try. This world, seems people prefer Indomie to knowledge, if I was sharing Indomie here the thread for full.

That church level, you never read my threads be dat. Cos I was an ordained Elder for church and even a Clerk in charge of records. Used to preach, but then I had too many questions in life which Bible couldnt give me all the answers. I dropped out of religion to Science. I think I am making better progress than I would have been if I was still in church. Doesnt mean I dont go to church once in a while when I want to dance and look at those fine fine babes.

DeSepiero:
I find this quite immature and unnecessary.

I find it scintillating and amusing

It correlates with my signature .

The guy was pontificating - You are God . Stop the Search

The phrase "stop the search" is audacious and shows that he claims to have a certain knowledge which is irrefragable and that warrants evidence . And I checked , there is no evidence to support most of his claims .

But my rebuttal suffused with knowledge from actual science is repulsive ?

Bro , I'm not claiming to know all things , I'm still learning , we all are . But when I see bullshiit , I treat it as bullshiit

Billyonaire:
So, please, I do not welcome insults. If you disagree with my postulate its okay, but if there is any doubts in your quest, I can confidently explain to you. I kept quiet from answering your queries cos it doesnt seem you are interested in knowing beyond what you know and that is totally fine. Do not think you know anything, stay hungry for knowledge and consider yourself foolish so you can give room for more knowledge.

You were doing the same thing with your thread . You are spreading the doctrine of Raelism conflated with pantheism and a soupcon of new age crap , its nothing new . Can't you see that I gave it the proper name or am I wrong . Don't you think I could have knowledge of this same thing you are peddling .

And your conclusion here shows that are not willing to learn either . You have made your conclusion WITHOUT evidence .

Billyonaire:
My 10 years as Atheist led me to study much sciences but in the end, I can say being Atheist for 10yrs, Pantheist for 4yrs has been great. Atheist are right, there is no GOD sitting out in the skies and theists are using faith and doctrines, yet we are all right. After all, who would have believed that the WE ARE WHAT WE HAVE BEEN SEARCHING FOR, ALL ALONG.

There's a big difference between falsehood and truth . Being knowledgeable isn't totally intelligence . Your ability to scrutinize information , to be critical and analyze whatever being purported as knowledge I think is the true test of intelligence .

God bless you sir .

KingEbukaNaija:
I find it scintillating and amusing

It correlates with my signature .

The guy was pontificating - You are God . Stop the Search

The phrase "stop the search" is audacious and shows that he claims to have a certain knowledge which is irrefragable and that warrants evidence . And I checked , there is no evidence to support most of his claims .

But my rebuttal suffused with knowledge from actual science is repulsive ?

Bro , I'm not claiming to know all things , I'm still learning , we all are . But when I see bullshiit , I treat it as bullshiit

He made an audacious claim, fine. All you would have done was to ask for evidence in a civilized manner NOT call his views bullshit outrightly.
How did you check and found no evidence for his claim? Is it not obvious you didn't consider that there could be truth in his views? You just set out to 'rubbish' his views!!

DeSepiero:
He made an audacious claim, fine. All you would have done was to ask for evidence in a civilized manner NOT call his views bullshit outrightly.
How did you check and found no evidence for his claim? Is it not obvious you didn't consider that there could be truth in his views? You just set out to 'rubbish' his views!!

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billyonaire , Sir I'm sorry if you think my response was too polemical . I got irked by the strong assertions and outlandish claims . And then you called me a 'mor0n' , that was not cool . I never insulted you , I just thought that as someone who has seen it all or most of it can handle the concomitant opprobrium caused by bizarre claims .

But please sir , stay away from false doctrines - they're deleterious - and don't be dogmatic about anything .

AlvanT:
if he does it what will he gain did he tell you he's about to open a church or coerce people to join his sect? what have you gained now? sorry for you life poo!

Their aim is to derail the thread. They feel so inferior and unsecured.

By the way, op, very well put thread

HardMirror:
Their aim is to derail the thread. They feel so inferior and unsecured.

By the way, op, very well put thread

Derail the thread ?

I didn't , it was just harsh criticism .

Uncle Billy u spoze know say I dey play na!I have read all your threads and pssibly all your comments, I know you don't do the church level.

But seriously if you publish a book it will help humanity, you have a very unique viewpoint on life in general. You might even choose to write about something else other than "existentialism" You could write on anything eg: How To Be A Man anything at all. Just something wholesome for the next generation because the information in your threads presents some challenges namely:

1. on Nigerian forum and that alone...
2. They are not in one place, like today that guy just came and dumped his picture on the other thread ( wt*) and you had to open another one which interupted the whole flow.
3. If you had the book available for download and hardcopy it would be a credible reference ( no be all this one wey them dey disturb you for source)
4. Throwing pearls before swine is and practice ( sorry if that sounds judgemental)

I hope with these few points of mine, I have been able to ...


btw: I'm a Christian but a lot of what you say resonates with my beliefs.

KingEbukaNaija:
Derail the thread ?

I didn't , it was just harsh criticism .

You cld not address the op, you busied yourself with detecting who and who is using multiple accnts to post on the thread. How unsecured can u be?

HardMirror:
You cld not address the op, you busied yourself with detecting who and who is using multiple accnts to post on the thread. How unsecured can u be?

I did . Check again .

KingEbukaNaija:
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billyonaire , Sir I'm sorry if you think my response was too polemical . I got irked by the strong assertions and outlandish claims . And then you called me a 'mor0n' , that was not cool . I never insulted you , I just thought that as someone who has seen it all or most of it can handle the concomitant opprobrium caused by bizarre claims .

But please sir , stay away from false doctrines - they're deleterious - and don't be dogmatic about anything .

You have not made any point on this thread. All you do is counter other people's opinion without offering compelling evidences why they should stop researching and focus on religion. I am not religious. I think you should evaluate your behaviorism towards making amends. Hasnt anyone in your family told you that you are hostile to thesis outside your bubble of myopia ? I am discombobulated.