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| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Nobody: 8:34am On Jan 02, 2017 |
kettle84:That is not necessarily true. In 1993, for instance, a Borno farmer was shot in the eye by Fulani herdsmen.....and he died several days later. The crisis has been ongoing for decades. What's changed is easy access to weapons, and the increasing population. In 1991, there were 89 million Nigerians (Fulanis inclusive) Now there are 193.3 million nigerians On the same piece of land....with the same archaic farming and cattle ehrding practices. Something's got to give. |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Ghost447(m): 8:34am On Jan 02, 2017 |
ddippset:Cattles are not supposed to be roaming the street in the first instance. Do you know that the FCT Minister banned street grazing in Abuja but your herdsmen failed to obey? If these herdsmen/terrorists can disregard government order, don't you think how they will oppress individuals in their farms? If you're not one of them, I pray their activities affect you or your loved one soon enough. |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Exciton(m): 8:36am On Jan 02, 2017 |
texazzpete:Lol. Your statement implies Fulani are the only ones capable of rearing cows. This inefficiently run business of theirs wouldn't survive modern day competition. Nothing stops southern state governments to go into pig, cow, poultry etc farming on a large scale. The only reason these fuckers are in business is because southerners are foolish people who would rather fight each other than come together and work towards a sustainable knowledge based society. |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by gbegemaster(m): 8:36am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Corrinthians:It's a new year. I would expect that you would have received sense by now. |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Physicist(m): 8:37am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Fulani using Buhari wants to dominate the country. Buhari only complains when Fulanis are weak. See below. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/11/day-lam-adesina-clashed-with-buhari-marwa-others/ |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Nobody: 8:37am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Any herdsmen that kills a farmer,takes a loan repayable. No matter how long it takes. |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by aku626(m): 8:38am On Jan 02, 2017 |
A call for peace is good but justice supersedes all persons involve in murder should be prosecuted and apportioned the right weight of the law. It would serve as a deterrent. |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Nobody: 8:39am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Gwan2:Actually, they do. Farmers, herdsmen clash in Sokoto Another clash in another area of Sokoto. Fulanis have also been targeted by Boko Haram....especially in attacks on cattle markets in Borno |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by curvilicious: 8:40am On Jan 02, 2017 |
For pple like me who are far from d north and are dead scared of herdsmen how do we hear from both parties? |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by kettle84(m): 8:40am On Jan 02, 2017 |
9jakohai:did the so called population increase happened on 29 May 2015? Fulani herdsmen became emboldened to kill Nigerians because their grand patron Buhari is shielding them. up till date no single herdsman has been apprehended ever since they started killing Nigerians in their hundreds all over the country. |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Physicist(m): 8:40am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Exciton:I am a southerner. I agree with your statements above that nothing stops southern state governments to go into large scale cattle farming. I also agree with you that southerners are very foolish despite having more western education than the northerners. |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Teenaira: 8:42am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Dear Nigerians, one thing is very clear from all that has been said so far, Normardic agric by the Fulani herdsmen will no longer work in Nigeria. The present government have being trying so hard to settle Fulani all over Nigeria. That is going to bring more problem as we can see even in Kaduna and Jos that are northern part of the country. We know it is the tradition of the Fulani herdsmen to move around with their cattle, this was working in the past but suddenly, it will not work any longer. We should all remember there are certain things we do traditionally in the past that civilization has made us to stop doing. I hope we all remember that trecking was the major means of transportation during the times of our fore fathers, but now we move around with cars, buses, trucks etc which are far more efficient than trecking. That is the same thing that will happen to Normardic agric in the future. So what we really need to do is to start getting the herdsmen to change instead of trying to force the society to accept this old method. The truth is that this change will happen it is just a matter of time. The president and APC as a party should know we are just postponing the evil day if we continue to support this practise as the whole world has moved on. |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by texazzpete(m): 8:44am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Exciton:No. my post plainly implies what currently happens. Please do not waste our time with 'potential'. There are currently no plans from any southern group or state to start modern cattle ranching. There is nothing in my post that implies that only fulanis can rear cattle in NIGERIA. Bottom line is, most of our beef comes from this destructive practice. If we had an ounce of conviction at all, we would boycott beef. That would decisively force the Miyeti guys to chance their ways. But as always , we lack the balls to see things through, and we are ruled by our greed. |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by kinibigdeal(m): 8:44am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Fayose knows how to deal with this foreigner's. |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by curvilicious: 8:44am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Nasman:I have a first hand experience of a Fulani herdsman threaten a boy in a bush part because his cows ate d boy's crops and d boy complained to him What do u calk that? Peaceful right? |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Nobody: 8:46am On Jan 02, 2017 |
kettle84:The Fulani herdsmen have been having issues long before May 29 2015....and that Southern Kaduna issue was there also before then They also have clashes in the North too. (And for the record....I do not condone their activities. ). The Government is taking action.....the Army and MOPOL are moving into the area. And yes....I am of the opinion PMB should be talking more. (He did defend Fulani cattle herders in 2000....when they had a clash with farmers in Oyo state. ). The problem for me ultimately is that there is a crisis THAT can be solved with better land management. Someone else upthread supported cattle ranches. And the Fulanis are not the only cattle herder tribe in Africa having issues. Cattle herder tribes in SOuth Sudan, Kenya, and Uganda have serious issues too. The one in Uganda needed Army force to put it down. I am saying that the problem is bigger than just one part of the country. |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Nobody: 8:48am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Teenaira:EXACTLY. And it isn't just Nigeria....other African countries have the same issues with other cattle herder tribes. The good thing in Nigeria is that we just have one cattle herder tribe. Other countries like South Sudan with three of them....on the other hand... |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Exciton(m): 8:53am On Jan 02, 2017 |
texazzpete:Boycotting their beef won't stop them from grazing in southern lands. In fact, they'll only have more cows to care for... meaning more chances for conflict. However, I do agree that we are cowards and are greedy; otherwise, this won't be an issue in the first place. |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by sujex94(m): 8:54am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Nasman:minding there business in Enugu....u r pathetic |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by shamecurls(m): 8:57am On Jan 02, 2017 |
These was the kind of composition I was expecting from CAN and not those inflammatory statements. The leadership of the herdsmen have spoken and in all honesty, its glaring that he is a diplomat. Conflicts like this should not be left alone for the presidency to come into and resolve but religious leaders, youth leaders and community leaders should be at the fore-front of it. Kudos to the leadership of the herdsmen for such a unifying, civilized and diplomatic message. The best resolution to this increasing conflict is the passing of the rejected grazing bill. If the herdsmen could be confined then I strongly believe that conflicts will drastically reduce and when such arises, it will be easy for security operatives to Investigate. But some dumb people call is Islamization even when advanced countries have such on ground. |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Nobody: 8:57am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Nasman:You may be right....but we have the Police and the Courts so that people won't take the law into their hands. Rwanda 1994 is a good example of revenge tendency run amok. |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Nobody: 9:00am On Jan 02, 2017 |
shamecurls:It is good he is calling for peace, but calling for forgiveness.....not good. Most of the time in Nigeria, we have serious crisis. People get killed. And at the end of the day, we are told to forgive each other and go home. So we go home, with hurts left unhealed....and with simmering tensions waiting for the next igniting factor. I think there should be a thorough investigation, people should be punished , and lives and property protected. We have forgiven too much in this country, to the point that the law gets disrespected. High time we had better land management practices in this country too. |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by shamecurls(m): 9:04am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Teenaira:Well said.....A grazing reserved area needs to be apportioned to this herdsmen across all states so as to confine and monitor there operations but its a pity our ethnoreligious bigotry has gotten us this far. |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Lorddominic(m): 9:05am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Wy are we wasting tym resolving these issues.... These Fulani-muslim idiots/beasts have their brothers in Northern Kaduna...they shuld leave Southern Kaduna alone for peace to reign.....Northern Kaduna has a larger land mass than Southern...so they shuld take their cows and graze them there |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by shamecurls(m): 9:06am On Jan 02, 2017 |
9jakohai:Way to go.......... Someone can just maneuver his cattle's to anywhere without restrictions. |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Jacko1(m): 9:09am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Everyday for the killer No be so e be for Jos dah time Muslim go kill christian anyhow Till ppl see say govt np go help them This same southern kaduna will rise and inflict a huge blow on fulanis It sickens me that wen fulanis are on killin spree... Army will never show up But reverse the case army will be arund to move in quickly and save fulani men If i was in the army with such hypocrisy Immediate resignation |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Smooyis(m): 9:10am On Jan 02, 2017 |
ddippset:The only solution is modern ranching for the fulani folks. Their system of rearing cattles is as primitive as shifting cultivation. Nigeria needs an educated and civilized leader to put things in the proper perspective. Gej was educated but not civilized while pmb unfortunately for the nation is both uneducated and uncivilized, hence the situation we find ourselves. |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by kheengdiamond(m): 9:11am On Jan 02, 2017 |
the fulanis are naturally wicked and possessive. I have lived with a couple of them. southern kaduna is not going to sit and watch you stamp them. seems the Eggons did not teach you guys enough lessons |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Nobody: 9:20am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Teenaira:[size=12pt/It's very inhumane/size] []] |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Nobody: 9:24am On Jan 02, 2017*. Modified: 9:51am On Jan 02, 2017 |
Teenaira: It's very inhumane The way simple questions cannot be answered on the part of the feds and the nomads in a land with law and order. Iwhy reprisal when there is an instituted system or law. Cos I believe this is not the first time horrors like this are perpetuated or am I taking the risk of oversizing the government here. I'm just hopeless in understanding why lives are of no substantive value to their custodian |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by julioralph(m): 9:32am On Jan 02, 2017 |
na which kind yeye conditions be that untop land wey no be una own after doing all sort of things to all those innocent people ![]() this Buhari nawa |
| Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by kdmi(m): 9:37am On Jan 02, 2017 |
United Nation and the world genocide council should declare Fulani herdsmen that attack innocent people a TERRORISTS, if not they will worse than book haram |
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untop land wey no be una own 