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Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Montaque(m): 9:37am On Jan 02, 2017
ddippset:
Sentiments aside, 90% of people just sit down in their homes and pass a guilty verdict on the herdsmen. Yes there are stories about herdsmen allowing their cattle to trample upon farmlands and there are stories about herdsmen killing villagers but there are also stories about villagers hijacking cattle and killing them for meat and also villagers killing herdsmen over arguments. At the risk of sounding very very politically incorrect, I would say that much of the crimes committed against herdsmen go unreported and unpublicized while much of those committed by the herdsmen get publicized. Nevertheless the security guys must be more proactive to stop the killing of anybody. Anyone who kills in the name of herdsmen, farmers crisis should be hanged.
So after a pattern of attack has been created in almost all states in Nigeria, you can still not see the picture?
All Nigeria hates the herdsmen, that's why there is fracas with them everywhere?
I don't want to believe u at all
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by farydah: 9:40am On Jan 02, 2017
ganye1:
This is why it is good to listen to both sides to a story. The secretary told their story and non of the comments above has shown any sympathy to their loses and this attitude is the general way Nigerians treat issues of attacks on the Fulanis. Attacks on the Fulanis largely go unreported by the Nigerian mass media. The secretary mentioned specific attacks on the Fulanis, the loses they have suffered as a result and measures they took to avert crisis but all all have been ignored. The people of southern Kaduna should take actions that are geared towards restoring peace to the area and not listen those calling for retaliation because if it comes to fighting the nomads clearly have the advantage.
why wouldn't they be at advantage when the have government support. When arms from the governor meant to be taken to Dangoma mistakenly gets taken to kagoma. Trying to finish off kaninkon people because they are the strongest in SK right? Hmmnnnn
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by hamingra: 9:45am On Jan 02, 2017
Gwan2:
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As someone rightly told you...you have no idea of what you claim to know abt the scenerio you pointed out...Have you ever given it a thought why "fulani" hardly have fracas with communities up north except Christian dominanted communities especially around the middle belt region?.....Sokoto, Kebbi, Kano are also agrarian states in their own respect, why don't we hear fulani and Moslem locals fracas.
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Lemme tell you an open secret....There is an agenda to either annihilate these ethnic minorities, make them politically and economically irrelevant....What you don't knw is that...Once dis folks sees you as an infidel, it is already a license to kill at will.
So the fulanis just for fun, like killing defenceless women and children in dusty villages for, like you claim, "ethnic cleansing" abi? So what do you think is the aim? Take over their land and do what with it? Plant cows? Or are they planning to settle down in these villages?

You and folks like you are evidence of our failed education. Simple deductive reasoning is beyond your comprehension. Am sure you won't think even if your life depended on it! Smh!
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by texazzpete(m): 9:47am On Jan 02, 2017
Exciton:
Boycotting their beef won't stop them from grazing in southern lands. In fact, they'll only have more cows to care for... meaning more chances for conflict.

However, I do agree that we are cowards and are greedy; otherwise, this won't be an issue in the first place.
Boycotting their beef will hurt them financially. They cannot and will not graze cattle indefinitely. That is NOT their way.

Their entire way of life is centered around taking cattle from the north to sell in the south, grazing and feeding the cattle as they go. When traders stop buying their beef or buying them dirt cheap, that culture shock will force them to make changes...or at least force their sponsors to make them change for the better.


But southerners like their Nkwobi and Beef suya too much.

Just remember that anytime you eat beef suya, there is perhaps a 5% chance that you're supporting a murderer.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Corrinthians(m): 9:48am On Jan 02, 2017
Richy4:
This is a brand new year bro.... I believe you will be adding one more year to your age....It is not good to remain a boy year in year out....You need some growing up to do both physically and mentally....I did not type this to offend you but just an advise...
cheesy

Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Corrinthians(m): 9:49am On Jan 02, 2017
wtfCode:
Just imagine what's coming out of ur mouth undecided
Dirty humanbeing angry
With all that shit u just spilled from ur mouth,that shows how ur are..."unreasonable thought spilling yorubas".
grin

Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by delishpot:
shamecurls:
Well said.....A grazing reserved area needs to be apportioned to this herdsmen across all states so as to confine and monitor there operations but its a pity our ethnoreligious bigotry has gotten us this far.
As good as giving them your land because they will slowly take over. Many Nigerian tribes are too dumb to unite and monitor anything. They rather fight with each other over who gets the biggest piece of state allocation than monitor anything. In short, they would collect pieces of cow meat in exchange for the lives of their people.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Nobody: 10:17am On Jan 02, 2017
Justice not peace..... Let there be justice,, the southern kadunas must not settle for peace.... JUSTICE! JUSTICE!! JUSTICE!!!
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by BlindAngel: 10:24am On Jan 02, 2017
Jokerman:
U quoted wrong person bro....
true.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by BlindAngel: 10:25am On Jan 02, 2017
Jokerman:
U quoted wrong person bro....
true.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by francisbiz: 10:26am On Jan 02, 2017
epidi:
There is a big trouble ahead of Nigeria if the Fulanis' are allowed to settle down in any place to graze their cattle.This is the same mistake the Jos people made and they paid heavily for it.Its obvious now that it was planned all along to annihilate other tribes so that they could take over everything.Their plan will always fail like it had in the past.
The fulanis have dug their own graves, ti may take time, but they will surely be buried in those graves.
They have made themselves No 1 enemy to the Christians, pagans, Yorubas, Igbos, Ijaws, Urhobos, Tivs, Igalas and still counting.
Their end is near, it will be BIBLICAL!
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by ephi123(f): 10:42am On Jan 02, 2017
People that should have been arrested and be in jail right now are the ones giving conditions? embarassed
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by glossy6(f): 10:43am On Jan 02, 2017
Anasko:
John Shiklam in Kaduna
The Miyetti Allah Cattle Breeders Association of Nigeria (MACBAN) believes that peace can only return to Southern part of Kaduna State only if both parties involved in the killings forgive each other and stop reprisal attacks.
Addressing a press conference at the weekend in Kaduna, Assistant National Secretary of the association, Dr. Ibrhahim Abdullahi called on he people of the area forget about what has happened in the past and move om. “We call on the entire people of southern Kaduna to forgive what has happened. Both parties should learn to forgive.
“This crisis will never end if you think you would go and revenge what happened to you , so we’re appealing to all parties to sheath their swords and embrace peace” Abdullahi said.
The association also declared support to steps so far taken by the government of Kaduna state and all the security agencies aimed at ensuring the return to normalcy in the crisis ridden area.
Abdullahi called on leaders, especially, political and religious leaders to desist from making inflammatory statements that could escalate the situation in southern Kaduna.
“There should be no hate speech, we should avoid those speeches that paint us as fanatics or ethnic champions. Let us all work for peace. We inherited a peaceful southern Kaduna and I don’t think we are sensible if we bequeath to our children and grandchildren a southern Kaduna that is fighting itself. We want to assure that we will continue to work with people of goodwill. In southern Kaduna there are good people that are out for peace” he said.
Narrating the events that led to the current crisis that started sometimes in May, Abdullahi recalled that “an argument ensued between two pastoralists that were trying to pass through a stalk route with which resulted in a fight with a farmer.
“Bother parties were wounded and were taken to hospital for treatment and I think one of the Ardo from that area volunteered to pay for the treatment of the Fulani that were wounded, but some youths thought otherwise and organised themselves, killed the Ardo, set him ablaze, burnt about 67 of Ardo’s settlement and there we go.
According to him, “MACBAN with some well-meaning sons of southern Kaduna sat down together and started working on peace even up to the stage of signing an agreement.
He said further that a meeting of both parties was held at the Palace of Chief of Godogodo, “we asked all the nomads that were affected by those crises to return.”
He said both parties were about to sign the agreement for peace when another killings happened again as “Four nomadic youths rearing their animals were killed and we started again from square zero.”
Speaking further, he said some 42 belonging to some nomads from Plateau state were killed will passing through the area. “Later a new dimension was introduced to the issue where people just go out wherever they see a Fulani man with his cows, they attack and killed him.
“They block roads and stop vehicles, anybody with the sign of Fulani man should be brought out and kill etc. “That’s what has been happening. In one of the killings, a Mining Engineer with his brother from Niger Republic, who had signed a MoU with Nasarawa State Government to prospect for solid mineral and was traveling to Nasarawa state was stopped and killed.
“Some nomads returning to Plateau state from Niger state where they went for a function, and somewhere in Denghi and Delmai at the border with Plateau, about thirteen of them were killed in Darade and one of them is still missing, and the vehicle they boarded was completely burnt. We had to quickly go, meet and discussed with them.
“Some Fulani traders returning from Lafiya were followed and tracked from Kagoro and finally got at Samaru, some were killed, but two of them were saved by a Kataf man who hid them in house for two days before returning them. “That’s why we’re saying the idea of revenge and retaliation is wrong. If you want to attack Samaru now to revenge what happened to your brothers you may likely kill that Good Samaritan. So let’s avoid vengeance” Abdullahi stated.
He maintained that “as an association whose members has been unjustifiably accused and maligned, we think that it is time for us to make our stand and set the record straight for posterity.”
Meanwhile the Nigeria Police yesterday said it would establish a mobile police base in Kafanchan to address security problems in Southern part of Kaduna State.
The Inspector General of Police (IGP), Mr. Ibrahim Idris, announced this to news men during a fact finding visit to the trouble area, according to a report by the News Agency of Nigeria (NAN).
“From the discussion I had with Kaduna State Governor Malam Nasir El-rufai, we have decided to station a mobile police base in Kafanchan. We are here to see things for ourselves so that we have a lasting peace in the whole area.” The IGP said a panel had been set up to investigate the crisis in the area thoroughly, including the allegation that 800 people were killed in the crisis.
Idris said some of the reports on Southern Kaduna were exaggerated. He said most of the leadership of the villages had a lot to contribute to peace and unity of the area. “Some of the community leaders need to be cautioned. They are contributing to creating situation that does not exist.’’
He said the police were committed to restore lasting peace and later met with community leaders in the area. NAN recalls that Operation Harmony aimed at restoring lasting peace in southern Kaduna was inaugurated on Dec. 24.



http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2017/01/01/fulani-cattle-breeders-list-condition-for-peace-in-southern-kaduna/?utm_source=&utm_medium=facebook
The only meaningful post I've read in recent times. I weep for my birth place. Let the elders restrain the youths who may not know the consequences of their actions. No man is happy the death of his kinsman
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by adilbee(m): 10:45am On Jan 02, 2017
That's the truth, most of the crimes committed against Fulani go unreported and unpublicized while much of those committed by the herdsmen get publicized.
Many people taking Fulani's as ignorance people and very easy to cheat them, but they don't know that a Fulani man will never forgive, they are ready to kill or to be kill.
ddippset:
Sentiments aside, 90% of people just sit down in their homes and pass a guilty verdict on the herdsmen. Yes there are stories about herdsmen allowing their cattle to trample upon farmlands and there are stories about herdsmen killing villagers but there are also stories about villagers hijacking cattle and killing them for meat and also villagers killing herdsmen over arguments. At the risk of sounding very very politically incorrect, I would say that much of the crimes committed against herdsmen go unreported and unpublicized while much of those committed by the herdsmen get publicized. Nevertheless the security guys must be more proactive to stop the killing of anybody. Anyone who kills in the name of herdsmen, farmers crisis should be hanged.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by ephi123(f): 10:47am On Jan 02, 2017
kettle84:
did the so called population increase happened on 29 May 2015?

Fulani herdsmen became emboldened to kill Nigerians because their grand patron Buhari is shielding them.

up till date no single herdsman has been apprehended ever since they started killing Nigerians in their hundreds all over the country.
And neither has the presidency condemned it. This is not only unfair, it is wicked. We have a president in support of murderers. May the blood of all those killed continually torment these wicked leaders.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by ephi123(f): 10:50am On Jan 02, 2017
adilbee:
That's the truth, most of the crimes committed against Fulani go unreported and unpublicized while much of those committed by the herdsmen get publicized.
Many people taking Fulani's as ignorance people and very easy to cheat them, but they don't know that a Fulani man will never forgive, they are ready to kill or to be kill.
I can see it is only northerners on this thread that are supporting the evils of these herdsmen. We know you guys do not value human life and can shed them at will but the rest of us do.

Imagine anyone justifying such evil. Very appalling. Truly we have little in common with these bloodletting, anti-peace people.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by BetaThings: 10:52am On Jan 02, 2017
Jokerman:
You guys are making noise now because there is a moslem president...

God will catch you guys soon when Nigeria elects a Christian president....

Don't worry, continue doing mischief...
Since 1999, Christians have ruled for 13.5 years out of 17
What exactly do you guys want?
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by ephi123(f): 10:52am On Jan 02, 2017
aku626:
A call for peace is good but justice supersedes all persons involve in murder should be prosecuted and apportioned the right weight of the law. It would serve as a deterrent.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by emi14: 10:54am On Jan 02, 2017
Corrinthians:
As usual, nnamdi kanu's zombies would be the first to arrive a thread like this and pour brown smelly spittle everywhere. grin grin

They were nowhere to be found on the thread containing a video of their heroes, boko haram fighters, killed by the nigerian army.

Pained souls. cheesy
Leave the Biafra alone and comment on the subject matter. Tnx
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by ephi123(f): 10:56am On Jan 02, 2017
ItsMeAboki:
You are 100% correct; the poor perception of the public for the herdsmen is the result of information mismanagement where one side has the loudest voice and ear of the public.

The media has woefully failed in giving factual and balanced report over the issue; they often invite only one side to discuss or relate opinions forgetting that there are always two sides to a story.
In this way, the herdsmen are always seen as the aggressors; while their nomadic lifestyle, poor education and lack of exposure lends them no voice and access to the media to counter such false claims against them.
The bias by the media is not surprising because majority of the houses are owned, manned and controlled by the largely Christian southerners who in turn have long established open hatred for the Hausa Fulani and Islam.

At the same time, political leaders are fanning the embers of hate and mistrust among the ppl through so many unguarded utterances and loaded speeches of hate as ethnic champions - in order to advance their selfish agenda.

It is unfortunate that we live in a country where some ppl are hell bent on disuniting it.
Yeah so true, you are very right. Like the 97 - 5% utterance that Buhari himself made. He has caused far more disunity than any other Nigerian leader and led the way for others to do same. Eod.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by felicitywe(m): 10:58am On Jan 02, 2017
Sometimes i feel bad when some fulani folks on nairaland post 2 support d killings committed by their ppl when eye witness accounts in taraba,plateua,benue,enugua,ekiti and others v accussed d fulanis of deadly atrocities.a bini frnds told me dat food stuff r costly in bini dat d ppl no longer go 2 farm bc of fulani herdsmen,u fulani educated guys shud do a cost analysis on grazing n ranching 2 knw d best.u v seen all d evils of grazing but on ranching a lot of opportunities r there.there is abundnt land in d north for it,ranching will lead to agro industry,d children of d cattle rearers will educated as doctors,lawyer,engineers etc bc schs will be built for dem,also hospitals will b built 2 take care of d health of ur ppl and vetenary doctors will v wrk to do,ur women who trek in d forest at d detriment of deadly animals will be engaged and educated,d state govt will get taxes frm d product and d activities and u will say gud by to crude oil.pls u educated fulanis shud think about these.tnx
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by BetaThings: 10:59am On Jan 02, 2017
ephi123:
I can see it is only northerners on this thread that are supporting the evils of these herdsmen. We know you guys do not value human life and can shed them at will but the rest of us do.

Imagine anyone justifying such evil. Very appalling. Truly we have little in common with these bloodletting, anti-peace people.
I am not supporting anyone
Anyone who kills unjustly should be put to death - no middle ground to this and I don't believe in the fallacy of does penalty does not deter
I don't care about deterrence, I am interested in sending to the void those who cut the lives of others short

But the truth is that it is possible that the entire truth is not being told
When Jos people killed and ate Muslims in 2010, a lot of people did not know because it was not reported
But it did happen

Did you read this

“Some Fulani traders returning from Lafiya were followed and tracked from Kagoro and finally got at Samaru, some were killed, but two of them were saved by a Kataf man who hid them in house for two days before returning them. “That’s why we’re saying the idea of revenge and retaliation is wrong. If you want to attack Samaru now to revenge what happened to your brothers you may likely kill that Good Samaritan. So let’s avoid vengeance” Abdullahi stated
If the guy is saying no to reprisal attack, it does not mean that criminals should not be prosecuted
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by ephi123(f): 11:00am On Jan 02, 2017
Corrinthians:
As usual, nnamdi kanu's zombies would be the first to arrive a thread like this and pour brown smelly spittle everywhere. grin grin

They were nowhere to be found on the thread containing a video of their heroes, boko haram fighters, killed by the nigerian army.

Pained souls. cheesy
You have no sense at all I'm sorry to say. We are talking about innocent people being killed right in their places of abode, and all your brain can think about is kanu. Pray tell what is the link between the two topics? It is a new year, definitely not too late to get some sense.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by samsam2019: 11:04am On Jan 02, 2017
I can not ask you to stop the madne of killing eachother. Just keep it at the North and dknt come here down south





You guys have always been savages and you don't deserve to be in a civilised societythat Nigeria ought to be
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by ephi123(f): 11:05am On Jan 02, 2017
BetaThings:
I am not supporting anyone
Anyone who kills unjustly should be put to death - no middle ground to this and I don't believe in the fallacy of does penalty does not deter
I don't care about deterrence, I am interested in sending to the void those who cut the lives of others short

But the truth is that it is possible that the entire truth is not being told
When Jos people killed and ate Muslims in 2010, a lot of people did not know because it was not reported
But it did happen

Did you read this



If the guy is saying no to reprisal attack, it does not mean that criminals should not be prosecuted
They have an association (miyetti allah or whatever it is they call themselves), this same association has issued statements / used the press several times to list so-called conditions. What is stopping them from giving the same level of publicity when crimes are committed against them so that the whole country will know the "entire truth"?
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by greatermax77(m): 11:06am On Jan 02, 2017
What a nonsense. If Nigeria is a real nation, this man is supposed to be arrested.
This shows that this babaric people have the backing of our tribalistic President
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Richy4(m): 11:17am On Jan 02, 2017
wtfCode:
Just imagine what's coming out of ur mouth undecided
Dirty humanbeing angry
With all that shit u just spilled from ur mouth,that shows how ur are..."unreasonable thought spilling yorubas".
You do not have to exchange words with him....that will be dignifying his statement....I do not support abortion but he should have been flushed...So that his parent could probably adopt or try again....Because based on what i have seen he is 1-1 =
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by felicitywe(m): 11:17am On Jan 02, 2017
adilbee:
That's the truth, most of the crimes committed against Fulani go unreported and unpublicized while much of those committed by the herdsmen get publicized.
Many people taking Fulani's as ignorance people and very easy to cheat them, but they don't know that a Fulani man will never forgive, they are ready to kill or to be kill.
Are U Supportn D Atrocities Of D Fulanis All Overe D Country?To U Killing Is When U Go At Nite Or Take Advantge Of Someone's Peaceful Nature To Attack D Person.Pls Use Ur Education To Help Ur Ppl By Advising Them On D Better Opportunities Dat Grazing Will Afford Them Such As Education,health,agro Industry,diary Etc.With Cattle Ranching Little Fulani Children Will Be Schooled And Trained As Lawyers,doctors Etc.There Will Be No More Attack And Revenge,no Destruction On Farmland Rather Development For Ur Ppl.At Craddle Man Cud Nt Achieve Any Dev Bc He Was A Wanderer But D Moment He Settled Down He Began To Create All Meaning Kind Of Dev.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by pawesome(m): 11:19am On Jan 02, 2017
My shout out goes to Buhari a.k.a la dawra..El rufai a.k.a la midget..n finally to all politicians...d thunder dt will fire u guys has finished its training n 2017 wil nt pass witout it strikin u pple...cheerscheesy
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by ItsMeAboki(m): 11:30am On Jan 02, 2017
Pidgin2:
Are you one of the herdsmen?
If I am, then you must be among the cattle in my herd; since you chose to display intelligence no better than cattle.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Corrinthians(m): 11:35am On Jan 02, 2017
ephi123:
You have no sense at all I'm sorry to say. We are talking about innocent people being killed right in their places of abode, and all your brain can think about is kanu. Pray tell what is the link between the two topics? It is a new year, definitely not too late to get some sense.

Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by ephi123(f): 11:37am On Jan 02, 2017
[quote author=Corrinthians post=52461302][/quote]What a pity. On the 2nd day of 2017, you still have not an IOTA of sense.
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